This is wrong. You're born XX or XY, you can't change that. Also Dragon Age Inquisition thread.
>retconning the Qun
die Bioware
>>342757861
>living like another
>like
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reading+for+dummies
>>342757861
Are you saying I can't be born a man and live like a sissy?
>>342757861
>it's a /v/ refuses to google the difference between sex and gender episode
>>342757861
Inquisition was a mistake.
>>342760452
>taking arbitrary dumblr concepts seriously
>>342760452
>it's a tumblr tries to fit in episode
Fuck off, retard.
>>342760304
isnt that cloud in drag?
What are some good mods for DA:I besides from uninstall.exe
>>342760646
>>342760629
>not knowing the difference between Tumblr and established science
>>342760452
stop doing that
>>342760646
>>342760629
Uneducated retards. Pick up a book sometimes you dumb faggots.
>>342760629
>arbitrary
if you insist it's a subjective thing why do you pretend to be the superior voice of reason nigger
>>342757861
I played DAI for 150 hours and never witnessed this scene that makes so many of you mad.
>>342757861
Didn't Sten make this big long speech in Origins about how "A Farmer is a Farmer, even if he becomes a merchant he is still a Farmer" and that's why the Qunari use a Caste System? Doesn't this fly in the face of all that saying that" It's ok you can just switch if you don't like it"?
>>342760708
I thought that you can't mod frostbite.
>>342757861
You want to ride a bull?
>>342760452
>it's a tumblr raids /v/ with their bullshit episode
kys
>>342760918
>>342760821
>Genders based on feelings
>wasting 200K on a useless degree that brainwashes you for 5 years and can lend you a DIVERSITY OFFICER job for under 30K a year.
No thanks.
>>342757861
>creamed
I kekd.
>>342760452
Born with x set of genitals = gender a
Born with y set of genitals = gender b
It's really not that complicated.
>>342757861
>>342759560
This makes full sense for the Qun though
>buff female qunari
Now she lives as a man, doing a man's job
>feminine, weak male qunari
Put him in a dress, make him a whore
>>342757861
>Not allowed to want to be anything other than your caste
>This is dictated by someone more important than you
>This is non-fucking-negotiable
>Breaking the rules means not being seen as Qun
Sure, this seems consistent.
>>342757861
It's an onslaught on the youth.
>>342760970
yes, it's just Bioware fucking over their own lore to appeal to some twisted tumblrinas
Nothing too surprising honestly
Still my favorite thing from DA:I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9nHNkp3G5Q
>>342761105
The concept of gender is used outside of shitflinging on the internet, and social justice LGBTBBQ victim Olympics.
Seriously, do some research.
>>342760629
>>342760646
>>342760835
>>342761078
>>342761230
>tfw legitimately can't tell if b8 or serious
>>342760821
>>342760918
Libtard globalist commies detected.
>>342760930
>It's not subjective, it's arbitrary. Made up.
Conservatives say there are two genders, LGBTQIA+ says gender is a spectrum and thus infinite.
There is no gender is biology, only sex. People made up genders because reasons.
>>342761105
I said a book, not a degree. Are you seriously that retarded?
The gender and sex split has been a thing in the sciences for far longer than you've been alive you dumb faggot. Just because tumblr is retarded doesn't mean you are safe from being retarded as well.
>It's a >>342760452 doesn't understand that males have a penis and females have a vagina, no matter what clothes they want to wear or what hobbies they want to partake in and no amount of acronyms and hyphenations will change that episode
>>342760452
>He thinks gender applies to more than language
>>342760970
Say the farmer, a masculine job role, wants to be a baker, and is really good at baking and kinda shit at farming. What do you do? You call the farmer a Aqun-Athlok and let them make bread.
Why the fuck is this shit so hard for people to understand? It's just a system to easily deal with abnorms and keep shit flowing steadily.
>>342761438
>>342761581
can you explain it
>>342761581
Which sciences we talkin here
>>342760304
is it gay if i found this pic arousing?
>>342761745
it applies to biology, mook. which is based on reality.
>>342761581
anon, stop
You should've realized by now that 4chan has become tumblr's right wing equivalent. Just like you can't talk sense into a genderfluid otherkin tumblrina, you can't talk sense into an enlightened alt-right /pol/tard. Give up.
>>342761628
So how's that minimum wage job working out for you?
>>342761581
>The gender and sex split has been a thing in the sciences
Sincerely doubting that.
I want to see the sources for any of this gender/sex split shit. Far as I'm concerned, the only mental differences between men and women is some emotional tendencies and the rest is Tumblr justifying their Autogynephilia and general fetishized delusion.
>>342761078
i've literally never been to tumblr other than for porn
>>342761105
can you explain to me why the term gender is a bad thing if it doesn't take away your precious term sex. The two can live together perfectly fine.
>>342761745
i totally do
>>342761764
Too fucking bad, he's a farmer and will only ever be a farmer. If he tried to bake, he would bake with a Farmer's mindset, unlike someone born to be a Baker.
>>342761438
My country stopped supporting gender research after they were blown the fuck away and shamed back to American liberal arts colleges with their pseudoscience bullshit.
I'm pretty sure the one in the picture you posted identifies as a female and not TRANS(which is codename for UGLY, FAILED TRANNY)
There are two genders: Male and Female.
Why do we need 10K genders while other mammals only have two?
It's the special snowflake syndrome in full-effect. If you have no redeeming qualities, you just make up some idiotic bullshit in the vain of "I'm a bi-gender apekin with a level 2 genital spirit"
Supporting people like that leads to mental illness.
You're part of the problem.
>>342761801
Gender and gender roles change depending on the society in question. Gender is a social construct.
Sex is assigned at birth and is immutable.
A mentally ill tranny can turn his dick into a hole can pretend to have a different gender with mild success, but his sex will always be man as dictated by his genes.
>>342760452
May be true, but think about how fucking rare these people are.
Now think about how mentally ill they are.
Boom. Fuck off.
>>342761581
>sex split has been a thing in the sciences
>taking social studies seriously
>>342761941
>can you explain to me why the term gender is a bad thing if it doesn't take away your precious term sex
Alright, it's regressive as fuck, that liking girly shit mentally makes you a fucking woman or something.
>>342761941
>using a term invented by an insane pedophile
>>342762029
And you just went full blown straw man. I hope you had fun putting words in my mouth.
>>342762006
No anon, he will be a shit garbage farmer and will always be a shit garbage farmer who will continue to fuck up and clog up the efficient system that is the Qun and no amount of Reeducation will fix that. Get over your BW hate and realize the retcon is good even if it's only usage in DA:I is for pandering dumb bullshit. Had they thought of this shit then, you can be damn fucking sure Sten would have referred to female Wardens as Aqun-Athlok
>>342761764
But the female Warden is good at fighting and Sten still thinks she's a man
>>342757861
I was so confused by this scene because I kept wondering where they were getting these 21st century doctors from to make her into a man.
>>342761581
Social sciences are psudo-science bullshit.
No one takes it seriously.
We've given you some positions in comfy offices with a meager salary to make you go wild in your brainwashing activities, but we do not involve you in anything even related to actual sciences.
"I think this goldfish identifies as genderfluid, maybe that's why we can't see any results of the vaccine"
^This is why you are never taken seriously outside universities and social media.
Now fuck back off to your safe-space and accumulate debt that will eventually drive you to suicide.
>>342761490
Yeah I guess that's it. Gender really isn't a thing. You are your sex, your genitalia, so stop worrying about what you identify as or what others identify you as.
>>342762115
Yes it's true, they are rare.
The problem is why is the media inserting them everywhere ?
It's like they are trying to normalize this crap.
I don't want to play games with a tranny cast.
>>342761858
Who cares, buddy?
No, seriously, who cares? Are you that insecure?
Just jack off to what you want anon.
>>342761243
>Put him in a dress, make him a whore
Relieving sexual frustration is manly the job of the caretakers that also raise children.
>>342762098
>Gender is a social construct.
That's all I needed to know.
Now please leave before you embarrass yourself further.
>>342757861
Did EA kill this franchise yet?
They haven't announced a new game.
>tfw German does not distinguish between sex and gender
>leftists still want to introduce it here
>they fumble and awkwardly twist around every time someone asks them to explain what they mean
>constantly try to import English tumblr expressions to hide their bullshit behind foreign loan-words
>>342762437
He doesn't wanna be gay bro, now answer the question.
>>342761476
They're serious, and they're right.
it's an >>342761874 is absoulutely ass-ravaged episode.
>>342761874
Better than your future Starbux gig, debt slave.
>>342762376
It's funny, because social sciences also dictate everything around you. Ever look at an ad? Ever study how humans deal with addiction, or the influences of popular culture in how we think? That's all social sciences.
The irony is that you dumb faggots think it's psuedo-science while at the same time being the most susceptible to it. You argue against brainwashing, but are brainwashed all the same.
>>342762325
Anon, it's a caste system. It doesn't matter how bad he is at his job, he is stuck there.This was decided for him at birth. Sure he might suck and make things less efficient, and maybe he would do better as a baker, but he can't change that, both because the Qun dictates it and because he doesn't know any other life besides farming. For the same reason if you are born a man, you only know how to live as a man, and the Qun decides that you are a man.
>>342762190
it doesnt make you a woman sexually you fucking retard goddamn I'm mad for some reason
you take a boy, you raise him AS A """"GIRL"""", his gender will be girl and his SEX will be boy
how is this a difficult concept to grasp
enough of this moronic fucking alt-right kneejerk I AM RIGHT U ARE WRONG LALALA bullshit
it's the exact same shit that feminists do
I'm not saying trannies aren't retarded
I'm not saying feminists aren't retarded
what I'm saying is that ever since the 60's gender and sex have been separated to remove ambiguity, where sex is biological and gender is social construct and probably a little bit of the results of sexual dimorphism (man is bigger/stronger, etc)
now stop circlejerking you cancerous reddit retards, all eager to jump on a bandwagon and circlejerk something into oblivion
and read something and THEN form your opinion
morons
>>342762029
>There are two genders: Male and Female.
>Why do we need 10K genders
Because there are two polar opposites in the spectrum of gender. Technically this would make for an endless amount of genders.
I agree specifically identifying as one dot on that spectrum would be retarded. But i think you're mixing up sexual preferences and fetishes on this one, (just like most tumblrinas, i.e. being attracted to men with vaginas and large feet doesn't make a gender)
>>342762190
>Alright, it's regressive as fuck, that liking girly shit mentally makes you a fucking woman or something.
Liking girly shit doesn't change your sex, it might however signal you are more feminine than masculine in the gender department.
>>342759560
If anything it reinforces the Qun. If they determine you, a biological female, is best suited to be a soldier, you are not considered a man whether you yourself believe it not. The opposite would be also true. If you are born a woman, but "feel" like a man inside and should be a solider, you are shit out of luck if the Qun disagrees. Gender within the Qun would appear to be tied very closely with your designated role in society, so if a woman cant keep up with the men, thats too bad.
>>342761941
Gender and Sex only have one word in my language.Kjonn
So please explain to me the actual biological difference between Gender and Sex without using 'feelings' or 'social construct'
>>342762701
Most of the social sciences in the Anglosphere have been hollowed out by ideological bullshit.
Empirical evidence as a concept is being attacked by those following post-modernist beliefs.
>>342762403
I don't give a shit about what people identify as.
I couldn't care less if you identified as an attack helicopter.
I take offence when people go around spreading made-up bullshit and demanding from me to use their special snowflake made-up pronouns.
>>342762493
inb4 he calls you a plebeian
>>342762325
The Qun isn't supposed to be perfect you fuck. Yes, the farmer who's good at baking but stuck being a farmer is going to be a shitty farmer and thus a burden on Win society. That's why like any society the Qun is smart in some ways and stupid in others. The rigid caste system of the Qun streamlines their society through its simplicity while also limiting it's potential. Bioware retconning it thus commits the dual sin of not just shitting on preestablished lore, but also devaluing the Qun concept by turning it into a Gary Stu.
>>342762797
>you take a boy, you raise him AS A """"GIRL"""", his gender will be girl
In practice this has not been so clear-cut. Look up a man named David Reimer.
I don't mind separating "gender" and "sex", but I do mind when people pretend that having those two not aligned means anything other than that you're brain damaged.
>>342762327
This.
The Qunari can't handle their perfect gender system being wrong.
So if someone is super good / into fighting etc, they must have been a man all along, even if they have boobs.
I never saw a contradiction there.
Sten flips his shit because the warden insists she is both a warrior, and a woman.
>>342762797
>Hurrrr you idiots should read books written by the people trying to convince you that fantasies are reality before can say you know anything about it durrrrrr
No thanks faggot, we already see how it is.
>>342762932
Which science is not ideological? Why do some researches get money and others don't?
In what way is empirical evidence not present in social sciences? What do you think is post-modernism?
After you translate your buzzwords maybe I'll understand your sentences.
>>342762575
Neither does most European languages(mine included)
Gender study majors get laughed at when they write articles here.
Feels good man.
>>342762893
>So please explain to me the actual biological difference between Gender and Sex without using 'feelings' or 'social construct'
I followed some courses on psychology quite a while ago and science wasn't yet advanced enough to see how these things work chemically in the brain. Except for maybe that experiment with mice where some female mice with showed male mating behaviour.
>>342762797
>what I'm saying is that ever since the 60's gender and sex have been separated to remove ambiguity
Like where? If this is so ingrained why's it only showing up in college "safe spaces" and imageboard discussions?
And if your designation of gender is some social shit like wearing dresses, playing with dolls and crossing your legs when you sit down, why're these losers so attached to the idea?
>>342762797
Ok, I'll bite.
Recommend me some books. If it's a single book written by someone who is rooted in an ideology, I'm not even reading the cover.
>>342763052
>but I do mind when people pretend that having those two not aligned means anything other than that you're brain damaged
Shh, then you might make them aware of the fact that it CAN, in fact, be fixed. Not with bible camp, mind, but with science.
Better to use science to reinforce the brain damaged insanity than, god forbid, fix it.
>>342757861
Soo, what was the problem with the main cast again?
Yeah, there was a few bisexual or homosexual characters, but it's not like they were just shoehorned in. They didn't oppose the lore by putting them in and the hetero choices were the objectively best ones.
>>342762575
>protestant country doesn't understand a concept that does not make his boss more money
Yeah we know
>>342762602
Only porn with solo females or dykes is 'straight'.
'Straight' porn with a man ramming a woman or getting his dick sucked isn't 'straight' because it involves a naked, grunting and moaning man. You're watching some guy's dick and nutsack. It's gay.
Anyway, if he found that pic arousing he's already a degenerate so who fucking cares.
>>342762098
no, that's not how it works.
if you are born as a male, you are male. the end.
>>342763462
How can it be fixed?
>>342763489
The SJW shit wasnt even that bad. The game itself had way more issues.
>>342763009
Sorry anon poor words on my part, I meant "you" figuratively. I agree it's stupid, society has conventions and it's best to follow them. I'll give somebody "they" if I absolutely have to cause they're being a prick about it but that's it. Anything else is unrealistic.
But own your genitalia dammit. I'm tired of this tranny meme.
>>342763386
>And if your designation of gender is some social shit like wearing dresses, playing with dolls and crossing your legs when you sit down, why're these losers so attached to the idea?
I'm totally for seperating sex and gender to remove ambiguity.
But I have no fucking idea man. Some people attribute value to other things than others my man. That's just the way the ball bounces.
>>342763547
>but his sex will always be man as dictated by his genes.
>if you are born as a male, you are male. the end.
What the hell are you arguing.
>>342763052
The fact that you're posting here makes you brain damaged as well though.
>>342763718
Never pretended otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgePxidFt7k
THANKS GENDER STUDIES!
When did dumblrites and sjws invade 4chan? was it before or after m00t "decided" to "leave"
>>342762029
>>342762893
alright, you absolute fucking retard. Here we go, I'll explain it step by step so even your atrophied peanut brain can understand
SEX refers to the BIOLOGICAL SEX of a person, IE, THEIR CHROMOSOME CONFIGURATION. If you're XX you're FEMALE, if you're XY you're MALE. GENDER however refers to the CHARACTERISTICS SOCIETY ATTRIBUTES TO THE SEXES, and is not NECESSARILY THE SAME AS A PERSON'S BIOLOGICAL SEX.
For example, this person. Now, BIOLOGICALLY he is MALE. But you can't tell by looking at him, can you? That's because he possesses all the characteristics society attributes to FEMALES. IF he also identifies as a female, this makes him TRANSEXUAL, because even though he is BIOLOGICALLY MALE, his GENDER (remember, the CHARACTERISTICS SOCIETY ATTRIBUTES TO THE SEXES) isn't MALE.
This is not a debate, transexuals exist. You may not like them, but you won't find reasons in the sciences to justify your prejudice.
>>342763605
By destroying the endocrine system and getting multiple radical cosmetic procedures done of course. O wait you said fix, nevermind.
>>342763052
Gender and sex are never aligned because one is cultural and the other natural. There's nothing biological in liking cars because you have a penis
>>342757861
i wonder where they find hormones in medieval settings
>its another "/v/ talks about trannies episode"
Yall niggas sure are gay for trannies.
>>342763884
she has big knockers
>>342763909
sometimes i'm pretty sure my penis likes cars though
>>342757861
>race that's super obsessed with everyone fulfilling the role you were born into
>suddenly they're okay with men pretending to be women because diversity
>>342763613
That's exactly what I mean. The most criticizm I see for the game is aimed at the cast, which was my personal favourite part of the game.
>>342763871
It was when you started being a retard and claimed anyone saying something you don't like as tumblr in order to make yourself feel better.
As a result when everyone's tumblr, no one is. Dumb /pol/tards have turned it into the modern version of Gaia. It has literally no meaning.
>>342763884
>>342760452
Gender doesn't even exist. It's a made up shitty term and nobody who's weriously into biology accepts it.
>>342763909
Gender isn't cultural, it's about how you feel. I have male genitalia, and I feel male.
>>342764087
Because those people are boring individuals who just enjoy the SJW arguing.
The cast is nothing amazing, but doesnt overshadow the shit combat, quests, plotline, etc.
>>342764120
lol
>>342763884
gender and sex aren't mutually exclusive
>>342763605
Gene therapy? Hormone therapy? Psychiatric therapy? Probably a combination of all 3.
Being an LBGT isn't some fucking magical thing that happens.
The Holy fucking Ghost doesn't touch you with the queer stick while in the womb. Something is WRONG. The end goal of every life form is to reproduce and homos and trannies CAN'T DO IT.
Some animals can spontaneously change genders, yes. But they always do it out of NECESSITY. Because there are too many members of one gender present, so changing sex raises the chances to reproduce. Not because they woke up one day and realized "I'm a toad in a toadette's body".
>>342764059
>expecting anything good out of modern Bioware
>>342757861
SJW shit aside, your reading comprehension sucks ass.
>>342764120
THIS
>>342763489
In Dragon Age 2, Anders kept hitting on my character all fucking day.
If I turned him down, his "friendship meter" kept declining. There was no option of just letting him down softly.
In the end he burned down the academies and was a bloodmage, but the most important part was that he was a faggot.
THANKS BIOWARE!
>>342764176
>nobody who's seriously into biology accepts it
[citation needed]
>>342763521
The thing is that men self-insert themselves into the video, unless they got some cuckold mental issue.
>>342762493
>So please explain to me the actual biological difference between Gender and Sex without using 'feelings' or 'social construct'
So i have to explain a CULTURAL phenomenon, BIOLOGICALLY.
>>342757861
>I was actually thinking of playing this
Dodged a bullet I guess
>>342763884
>That's because he possesses all the characteristics society attributes to FEMALES.
i dunno man, society tends to attribute having a vagina to being female.
>>342761764
but this is the exact opposite of what Sten says
plus from what she says sexual dimorphism is pretty big between male and female qunari, so a male would never ever pass as a female and vice versa
if you ignore the shit writing, the gameplay of dai is fun if you like long crawler type games.
>>342764301
Should have taken one for the team man. What the fuck.
>>342763682
Basically it doesn't matter if you're a sissy and act like the average man, you're still a man. You don't need to call yourself anything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
The sad story that trannies never mention.
>>342764202
It's about how you "perform". And that doesn't mean that you can choose to be another gender, that's why some gender theorists and trannies get into shitfights since the 80s.
>>342764059
This.
I'm fine with Bullcock being fine with trannies because 'oh man, all this time away from that rigid set of rules has taught me that it's not always 100% correct', but to just go and say 'oh yeah we're a super strict military dictatorship that holds women in outright contempt in the first two games and say they cannot fight purely on the basis of their gender but we cool with transexes now' is bullshit.
>>342764457
what shit writing
>>342764115
Don't you have a blog post to make about a reblog? You aren't going to get attention here, especially without a trip and a link
>It's a /vpol/ has never read a history book episode
>>342764509
>It's about how you "perform".
What do you mean?
>>342764457
Nah. It's MMO bullshit with no hitstun, no combo options, just mash the attack button and go to sleep. Level design and overworld design ain't exactly stellar either, it rides on production values.
DAI's gameplay is the worst aspect about it.
>>342764609
If you're skilled, competitive, and driven to succeed, you're 'male'.
Otherwise you're a woman.
>>342764248
>The end goal of every life form is to reproduce
Yes, until overpopulation ends up killing the species as a result of lessened resources and no competition. And then they die, which is the true 'end goal'.
I always love dumb faggots with that rationale because by that definition the end goal of every male and female on earth should be to pump out as many kids as possible.
>>342764442
What if he had surgery? He'd have a vagina. What then? "But he has no womb!" you would say. Well, turns out some women also don't have wombs.
It's a little bit deeper than that, but good job thinking about it. It's more than half this board is willing to do, anyways.
>>342763009
>hey I am female but feel more comfortable as a man so refer to me as 'he'
>TUMBLR RETARDS I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR MADE UP PRONOUNS
in general I think claiming there are more than 2 genders is dumb as fuck but come on, you know most trans people just want to be treated like a man/women and not a queer-fluid diva right?
>>342764498
*average woman
>>342764248
>The end goal of every life form is to reproduce and homos and trannies CAN'T DO IT.
Neither can 99% of the people on this site, but that doesn't mean you have to treat them like subhumans.
Also, overpopulation is quite the fucking issue, I'm glad there's homos and trannies doing their part of not contributing to it. I'm straight, but all this breeder propaganda is annoying as hell.
My useless piece of shit aunt has had five kids and will probably pop even more out in the coming years, surviving off of welfare and disability checks along with shameless continual begging, all the fathers being pedophiles or some other form of lowlife; does that make her an accomplished human being, because she bred so much?
>>342764692
>If you're skilled, competitive, and driven to succeed, you're 'male'.
You're saying female athletes are men?
>>342763884
We get it. You're some ugly failed tranny who is bitter that you can't pass for female.
"Allies" or actual females would never get this riled up over other people's opinions.
If you still have your genitals, I suggest you revert and get actual psychological help.
You're probably just gay and confused.
Just start lifting after you're off the estrogen and start pounding/get pounded by men when you're ready.
It's better than killing yourself when you realise it's too late.
>>342757861
>>342757861
>>342757861
https://youtu.be/suxXHfuniF8?t=2m41s
@ 2:41
>>342764848
>Neither can 99% of the people on this site, but that doesn't mean you have to treat them like subhumans.
Yes you do.
Have you looked around here lately?
>>342764740
>What if he had surgery? He'd have a vagina.
Not really considering even transgender advocates consider the results unsatisfactory due to the fact that it needs to be constantly maintained with specialised tools to prevent "fusing" (read: healing back together)
>>342764791
But that's WRONG, anon. Think about the FAMILY!
I find it hilarious that this board is actually parroting hardcore republican rhetoric.
>>342764498
that anon is saying sex is immutable which you agree with
you are arguing with someone you agree with
>>342764848
>but that doesn't mean you have to treat them like subhumans.
Are we on the same site?
>>342764376
I am sexually attracted to flying spaghetti monsters.
Abnormality exists in nature as well, but people want to treat it normal and equal when it isnt.
I dont want to be that guy but it feels to me like people want to be a special little snowflake
>>342764906
Jesus, that kid is sickening.
>>342764376
"BUT PROFESSOR! WHAT GENDER DOES THE POLAR BEAR FEEL LIKE?!"
You don't need a citation to know that it's retarded.
>>342757861
I see no problem with this honestly. Yeah it's obvious why Bioware did it (to cash in on a contemporary hot button issue) but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Native Americans had similar labeling for trannies and views on why they were the way they were (i.e.
"two-spirit").
Of course, this is also coming from a fictional race of creatures in the game that don't exist in reality so they can have whatever goofyass views on real life matters they want without reality being an issue.
Heres a question.
What if, one day, medical science finds the neurological key to Gender Identity Disorder, and finds a way to fix it. Instead of requiring numerous surgeries and hormone treatments to make the body fit the mind, what if they create a simple procedure to allow the mind to fit the body.
Would trannies rejoice and accept the simple treatment? Or would they demand to be able to continue the extensive physical procedures?
>>342764906
thatporno has no right to be as bad as it is
>>342765095
Polar bears aren't self-aware, retard. Are you being intentionally stupid or were you born this way?
>>342763884
nigger, sarina doesn't possess every characteristic female has. it's a male injected with hormones that he can't produce and a lot of silicone. and i mean A LOT
>>342765084
>but people want to treat it normal and equal when it isnt.
>it feels to me like people want to be a special little snowflake
well if they arent treated equally they can either be depressed that they arent accepted or see themselves as special. what the fuck else could they do?
>>342764694
t. bitter homo/barren womb who can't enjoy life
I'm just fuckin' with you, anon.
We don't all need to have kids, but it is in our DNA to reproduce and get successful offspring.
We're animals after all.
>>342765287
>what the fuck else could they do?
change?
>>342764906
sauce on pic ?
>>342764609
Gender performativity basically means it's how you behave, not how you feel. And behave or perform does not mean "how you choose to act" but how you naturally through everyday repetition.
>>342765196
Guess it would depend on the person. Some of them would believe the gender they identify to is their true self, and would still rather change their body, while the other would feel like it would make their life much easier and accept the "brainwash".
>>342765245
Of course he doesn't, friend. He's biologically male, so he doesn't have a vulva, or a vagina, or a womb, or ovaries. But he LOOKS like a female is SUPPOSED to look, and he ACTS like a female is SUPPOSED to act. That's what GENDER is, what SOCIETY FEELS THE SEXES SHOULD BEHAVE LIKE.
This isn't complicated.
>>342764906
Wait.. "they" is being used a singular pronoun? How is this acceptable to anyone? Its like the Borg or some shit...
>>342764438
>DA:I is on sale every month, but no one's buying it
Well, I guess it explains why it's on sale every fucking time I enter a digital store.
>>342765378
change what? people like you see this thing as a mental illness, do you also tell retards to change?
trans people are treated like shit, do you really think most people would want to be that way if they could help it?
>>342757861
So is an aqun-athlok like a tomboy or what?
>>342765476
so we play pretend?
>>342760452
Because there isn't a difference. There is male, there is female. There's no in-between and there's no being in the wrong body.
Stuart who lives down the street can put on a dress, stuff his bra, call himself Suzie, and ask his friends to refer to him as "she". He's still a man. Even if he has breast added and his cock and balls removed and everyone on earth agreed to refer to him under female pronouns, he'd still be male. This is objective scientific fact.
That being said, I don't give a flying fuck about trannies and how they live their lives. I'm all for people retaining the freedom to live however they wish. Just don't demand that I take part in your little game of pretend and accuse me of hate crimes when I decline.
>>342764740
The woman without a womb is still XX
The man with a fake vagina is still XY
>chopping off a dick in two
>making it be inside-out so it's a hole
>fixing it a bit so it has a shape that sorta looks like a vagina
>no clit
>no urethra
>no pussy juices
>no fuzz
>no lips
>IT'S A VAGINA I SWEAR!
Next thing you tell me is that a dildo is a real dick.
Fuck off and don't compare mutilations to vaginas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
>>342765196
Are you talking about gov funding?
It all depends on if it will be labeled as a serious enough handicap to warrent a one surgery or the other in the first place.
If it is considered as serious enough, it depends on the culture/religion/whatever wich one if not both are presented as options you can choose from.
>>342760452
>
The sad thing is you're just going to sit here and use everything anyone says against you as fuel towards your own sense of smug self-satisfaction.
That being said, you're still literally retarded - and frankly, its almost embarrassing to think that someone out there truly believes this.
>>342765439
>"brainwash".
Is it really a brainwash though? I thought the point of Sex-reassignment surgery was, in the end, to relieve their suffering. What if this procedure (which might be significantly less expensive as well) did the same, if not better, job?
>>342765476
what i find hilarious is that those people who wants to destroy the "binary" gender are the one that get under surgery and hormone therapies just to try to look as the other gender
>>342765678
>>342765621
Literally no one in this thread is arguing what you guys are "debating".
I'm taking Biology again at age 26.
Will my college book teach me that humans can be born in anything other male/female?
>>342765594
Kinda. I like to think of it as a legal term to make people shut up and keep the ship sailing smoothly.
>>342765378
Or not give a fuck about others and think if you do this for yourself or for others. I dont mind abnormal, i'm basically on that team too, when we talk social etc...but not giving a fuck actually is really hard.
>>342765642
so you identify gender based on genetics?
do you hesitate to refer to your friends as he or she before getting a dna test?
>>342765757
epic arguments and strawmanning bro
>>342765814
Uh yeah, yeah they are. Try reading the thread faggot.
>>342765765
That's what I'm saying.
Just as transsexuals currently undergo physical changes to be closer to the real thing, your hypothetical situation would allow them to have their mind closer to (or just like) their body.
>>342765490
When you are talking about someone and you don't know whether that person is male or female, you use 'they' instead of 'he/she'.
Like, not the dumblr special snowflake nonbinary bullshit.
For example if you're talking about CEO of some corporation and don't know who that is, you say 'They are a greedy fuck'.
>>342764740
it'sd not a vagina, it's a wound. think of a wound you have to actively keep it open and it doesn't have the necessary bacteria to prevent infections.
and sometimes it can grow hair inside.
pretty nice
>>342765776
Yeah that's why there so much hate between gender theorists and people who defend sex change.
>>342760452
>difference between sex and gender
People like you make me want to raise my kids away from society
>>342762437
What happened to incase? Look at that, it's perfect.
>>342765621
Fucking THIS.
>>342765218
Stop retard-shaming, you inconsiderate faggot.
>>342765843
biology has nothing to do with it, its a societal thing.
now there are more types of people than XX or XY, theres also XYY and XXYY and other even more rare genotypes
>>342765490
Because "it" sounds extreemly offensive, and "they" was the only remaining gender-neutral pronoun that has no pejorative connotations.
I also agree it 's lazy as fuck. Apparently s/he is not good enough.
Undertale is also inexusable. Frisk's of an alien speices, so why wasit so hard to use "it"?
>>342757861
But if it's magic, why couldn't you just change? Magic can do everything, but it doesn't exist in real life so changing sexes doesn't exist in real life.
>>342765893
I'm not here to make an argument; I'm just here browsin' /v/ and calling people out on their stupidity.
If you want an argument, lets both go to google, search whatever, and link the first thing that agrees with our predefined opinions, then continue to babble back and forth.
Again, you're retarded.
>>342764438
>>342765528
>refusing to buy a game because of skippable sjw propaganda
you should refuse to buy the game because it's a shit watered down single player mmorpg with a pathetic story that shits on everything good from the previous games
>>342764906
>Walling off that dude's ult
This is why people hate Mei's
>>342765843
no, because SEX is biological you will probably learn about that.
If you do cultural or maybe psychology studies you will probably learn about gender too.
Serious question, why do people care what people call themselves as long as it makes them happy?
Tfw no sissy Bf
>>342765954
we arent talking about transsexuals, we are talking about transgenders/transvestites
>>342765563
Its a mental illness most of us suffer, called ego, just expressed differently
>>342766016
you know without the tumblr special flakes, this just means your biological sex doesn't dictate what you do in life. You're no less of a "man" for enjoying cooking or gay sex
How many trannies are in this thread?
>>342765642
Very good, anon! You understood the concept of BIOLOGICAL SEX. Now, what have we learned about GENDER?
>>342765613
I'm not sure what your point is. Yes, what transexual females are doing is essentially pretending they are biologically female by acting female and looking like a female is supposed to look so they don't feel like shit.
>>342765776
That's mostly unrelated to what we're talking about, though. I assume the whole reason some people are against binary gender is because transexuals always feel like shit regardless of whether they transition or not, so they're trying to find a way to feel better.
>>342766413
considering the wide-spread ignorance I am betting zero
>>342766413
they say trannies are a very small minority but fuck, they're all over the web. EVERYWHERE
>>342760452
I will never understand why people find this concept strange.
You'd think a board full of people that fail to live up to society's expectations of masculinity would understand that gender is a social construct.
>>342766205
because alt-right is the other side of the coin of tumblr. They both need to find shit and strawmen to be mad at
>>342766490
Maybe they're just loudmouths.
>>342766413
>>342766484
me
>>342766413
make a straw-pol
>>342766413
Even one is too many.
>>342766156
You claim there's arguments out there that support both sides of this discussion, yet you believe you have the superior knowledge over the matter and i'm retarded.
That's a little retarded in my book.
>>342765880
I guess sex and if I'm wrong I correct it. I'll even humor you if you insist on masquerading as the other sex. I'm not gonna agree with it though.
>>342761243
>>342762850
Except the Sten says the opposite and shit talks the female members of your party for going out and doing things that are clearly male roles in his mind. Its a retcon.
>>342766548
>this projection
>>342766205
No one cares; it's a much louder minority than people really think it is. The problem, at least in my experience, is when certain individuals promote the idea that they are "oppressed" when no one will conform to their ideals.
That's insane and an insult to people that worked hard to make an identity for themselves (See: The original women's rights movement and the civil rights movement). Those people were actually brave and changing things for the better - but now people think the smallest "that could be taken as an insult" thing is the worst that can happen to them.
I never felt strongly about it until I started seeing more and more of it IRL (Live in the suburbs outside a major US City) ; and in my experience, 90-100% of these people only want attention and sympathy - it's pathetic.
>>342766548
I mean, it's not like anything has changed
this is just a healthy reminder that reactionaries aren't going anywhere regardless of how sophisticated society becomes
>>342766595
more like strawman-/pol/
>>342766548
Or maybe, you know, it's not a social construct but something more universal.
I finally get why americans are such retards about gender.
my friend went to university in america for psychology, he says they didnt talk about the difference between sex and gender outside of a philosophy class he had
this concept doesnt come up in the american education system outside of liberal arts
>>342757861
>>342764740
>this fucking thread
>>342766627
This. If they're out to pick a fight, there's no way to avoid a conflict, no matter what pronoun youbuse.
Any other reasonable person will politely correct you if there's reasonable doubt.
>>342766739
How is it universal if we're not all Chad Thundercocks
>>342761230
>doesnt know about intersex
>thread trying to discuss gender in video games
>same people who dont want to talk about realism in video games
>mfw
>>342766413
4chan is full of trannies it's not even funny, why the hell is that?
>>342761438
whoa
who is this female semen demon?
>>342763884
>But you can't tell by looking at him, can you?
At this point I assume all women are actually secretly men until I have enough evidence otherwise. I'm pretty sure I've spotted a few suspects I wouldn't have before.
Basically I now treat people IRL like I do on the internet.
>>342766759
>americans
sweden says hello!
>>342766613
I never claimed to have superior knowledge. What I do know, and what anyone should know, is that just linking scientific journals that agree with what YOU (individually) want to believe, is in itself retarded. Science isn't always right, it's mostly just a bunch of theories and studies and hypotheses backed by different amounts of evidence. And as more evidence is created, we can eliminate possibilties. But nowhere in there, can you give me a single scientific journal, claim it as fact, when its nothing more than a study and a hypothesis.
So please, for the love of all that is holy, stop being retarded; stop putting words into other peoples mouth; and accept that you are not a unique individual - you're a boring sack of shit and your time here is limited - make the most of it doing something productive - not trying to make yourself feel better about the black hole that is your insignificance.
>>342766627
so you would just guess?
you see a rather muscular person with a beard and wearing a t-shirt and jeans and instead of thinking "hmm this person looks like a guy I am going to assume he is one" you just 'guess' the sex?
>>342766590
are you a cute? wanna kiss? ;3
>>342766739
There is some research that indicates boys are more inclined to be interested in certain things, sure. It's hardly definitive, though.
But this really doesn't disprove much. Even if we are genetically predisposed to act a certain way, it doesn't mean we can't and don't change. How many people on this board act like the male ideal?
What's with all the degenerates trying to justify their mental illness.
>>342764856
In the qun yeah.
Sex doesn't exist in the qun, only gender. Usually "male" members are stronger but if a "female" shows male traits that is what he/she is seen as by society
>>342766902
The mentally ill are attracted to anonymous imageboards.
The thing is that they all have their own fucking board, but they refuse to stay there.
>>342760452
I want to fuck the stupid out of you
>>342766613
In a disscussion there will always be equal good arguments for both sides based on rules of philosophy. I forgot what it was called, rules of transcendential or something
>>342766982
im crying because of this thread sry
>>342767043
hello, alt-right
quickly run before the cooties infect you!
>>342766856
I meant to say that it's about how you feel.
See, Chads have dicks and feel masculine.
I'm the opposite of a Chad and yet I still feel like a man.
It doesn't matter what standards society gives to each gender because you can still feel like a gender regardless.
~*~*~*did u know~*~*~*
that the overwhelming majority of trans ppl see themselves as either male or female and view the entire fluidkin hyperfemme butchboi thing with disgust and disdain because it exists in an attempt to somehow normalize the idea of being transgender in an attempt to make it Cool and Hip and Acceptable
trans people don't want to be trans
trans people don't want other people to be trans
people who want to be trans, or who identify as trans, typically aren't actually trans
t. trannythis thread isn't video games, discuss this shit in /lgbt/ or something holy fuck
>>342766974
Yes, that's why it's called a GUESS, not corroboration.
>>342767141
Don't you have a disco to be shot at?
There are actual people born as hermaphrodites, plus there's all the disorders like klinefelters.
post cute traps
>>342767253
I'm straight and male. Also white. So no.
But want to know what I'm not? Retarded. Like you.
>>342767183
~*~*~*did u know~*~*~*
I would rekk your bitchboi pussy in an instant
t. faggot
>>342767161
But you just proved that you yourself believe it's a social construct then
what is the context of that part and what does it have to do with a demon invasion?
>>342767347
Says the /v/ poster.
