Quake Thread.
HUH GAAAH edition
Whenever I see the GAAAH I hear it in my head.
Playing through the DOPA mod by machine games. It's pretty intense, but there's some monster pocketing happening and each map contains very cheap secrets, some are impossible to be called secrets. But there always are harder to find ones so that kind of offsets the former.
>>342739115
Here's it btw
https://twitter.com/machinegames/status/746363189768650752
>the q2 burning in lava screams
![engoo_screenshot1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PeDi2FT.png "engoo_screenshot1[1].png")
Do you prefer the more original 320x200 toaster rendering in Quake to higher resolution modes? Anything starting 640x480 and upwards feels completely different. Even the gamma seems to behave differently.
>>342739115
>monster pocketing
What do you mean by that?
>>342740603
Areas are separated and contain their specific monsters. Like it's there's water you start expecting zombies. I wouldn't dare to call this arena style mapping, but it's partially apparent.
![engoo_screenshot3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JOxm7q2.png "engoo_screenshot3[1].png")
>>342740579
continuing
Not my screenshots, but I tried playing it like this in Dosbox, got quite dizzy because setting fov beyond default 90 removes the weapon. Now playing at 640x480 in TyrQuake at around 110 fov.
HUAHAAHAAAH
I only played the first map of that machine games thing, but the way it was structured seemed really formulaic, it was basically a straight path with minor deviations full of the same generic grunt enemies. A lot like the first couple maps of The New Order.
>>342740895
Oh, yeah that. I did find the areas and encounters in each level to be predictable and heavily compartmentalized. I honestly hated this episode, I think a lot of its design is both shallow and antithetical to Quake.
Whats the best way to play quake? Any link to a torrent?
>>342741478
http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Anarki made me feel like I was playing a kid on Xbox Live whenever he gibbed me
>>342741478
Here you go anon
http://pastebin.com/cpjZmazYMMmmMMMM
>>342741692
>>342741589
Thank you.
Post the past
I miss you, buddies.
>>342741692
left is better, it seems more otherworldly and deranged.
>>342741252fapfapfap
>>342741252
clink clink clink clink
>>342741923
>this screenshot is over 14 year old
>most of these guys have kids and shit
>1 person from this is undoubtedly dead
>i'm still pretty much the same neet
how could this happen to me
>>342742552
You've been neeting for 14 years?
>>342741336
>The New Order.
one of the most overrated game ever
>>342737521
So I just finished Quake 1&2 and all the mission packs for the first time. I still have Quake 3 on my backlog though.
Are they worth playing? Are they MP only? If so are they totally dead, and if there are still players would I get my ass handed to me by elite gods?
>>342742626
nah, i've done lots of stuff. just not in a good place in my life.
one of the guys from my team who was better than me is now an investment banker. stuff like that kinda makes you bitter.
of course, he worked his ass off throughout his entire 20s while i did more things i wanted to.
I wish I could play some good old 3wave vs. these new age /v/ kids who think Doom 4 is a good game and shits on anybody who tells them it isn't.
Quake champions is going to be a very big surprise for a whole generation of kids who have no idea how abysmal they are at FPS. I can't wait. fucking 35 with arthritis and im going to shit down some of your necks.
>>342742852
Single is just deathmatch with bots. It's not bad.
MP you are better of playing Quake Live.
>>342742852
anyone playing q3 at this point would probably be elder god tier ppl who couldn't let go. there are a lot of them with any game.
quake live is populated but is a garbage, reduced, easy-fied version of quake3 with blood and gore removed.
Has there been any news\info about Quake Champions other than its not a MOBA?
>>342743274
No loadouts. Weapon pickups. PC only. Characters have passive and active abilities but they are balanced so the characters don't intentionally counter each other. Will have some advanced team mode. Deathmatch confirmed.
>>342737521
I think the DOPA episode from Machine games is viral marketing. What are the chances of MG developing a single player Quake game?
>>342743098
>quake3 with blood and gore removed
eh the gibs don't make quake 3.
>>342743274
We know it's designed around some new gameplay mode, not duel.
Who's up for some Quality Internet Drama™?
The project lead of ioquake3 has beef with "GamerGate" for using GGAutoBlocker
>>342743458
The mapset was done by J.F.Gustafsson. He has done Quake mapping back in the 90s.
Machine Games is closer than any other dev to do a Quake game, however then it's questionable what id is doing as QC is partly outsourced to a Russian dev.
>>342743098
>reduced, easy-fied version
how so, I think the only difference in a duel is the lg damage (6 instead of 7) and the rail damage (80 instead of 100).
If you're referring to load-outs, they are optional and only active in dm
>>342744023
FUCK OFF.
DO YOU HAVE TO BRING THIS FAGGOT SHIT INTO EVEN A QUAKE THREAD?
FUCK.
OFF.
/V/ IS NOT YOUR FUCKING SOCIAL MEDIA WHINING PLATFORM TO POST FUCKING CELL PHONE SCREENSHOTS TO.
FUCK.
OFF.
THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT GAMES FROM WHEN GAMES WERE FUCKING GAMES. FUCK OFF.
>>342742865
fucking 19 year old newfag who loves Quake more than his own mother
>try me old man
in all seriousness, Quake is my favorite game, would love to Deathmatch you to see how we stack up against each other
>>342743634
Duel is confirmed
>>342744431
this desu
>>342744609
It's not that duel doesn't exist. Only that the game it's not the premire mode anymore. And that mode now is a team based one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Xve3VGGMo
my favorite speedrun of Q1
>>342742865
You shouldn't be envious anon, as long as you're happy. If not, work harder
>>342744431
Don't lie to yourself. People on /v/ love this gossip stuff. Otherwise we wouldn't have threads of that nature hitting bump limit every day.
Which Quake are you all playing? Are you hyped for Quake Champions or no?
>I am hyped out of my mind for Quake Champions and cannot stop myself from making Quake threads
Once I get some weed I will host a future vs fantasy quest server in the next week on east coast.
Future vs Fantasy quest was a first of its kind thing. It is a class based mod where classes have extreme strengths and weaknesses. Quest mode allows you to coop through the game against enemies that have like 16x, 32x as much health as default.
It saves your character progress to a file, you level up and get new weapons etc. It would feel extremely rudimentary to many people now, but it was the first of its kind for a shooter game
It's just fun too. You have classes like a ninja who has a grappling hook and exploding bombs, poison darts etc
>>342744865
played the machine games dopa episode yesterday it was kind of average but at least it's something
playing through quake 2 again and probably mission packs too since i have never touched them
inb4 the quake 2 is bad meme
i dont care for quake champions just from what i've heard in interviews etc but i'll wait to see what they have to show at quakecon
reflex is a much better modern quake imo nothing is gonna top it
>>342745386
a game with people playing it would significantly top it
>>342745486
Burn
>>342745386
I liked Quake 2 the best out of all the titles.
The Xatrix expansion, Reckoning reuses a lot of the original game's models for it's added content, only creating new models for like one enemy and 2 weapons, a handful of swamp textures and new skins for regular enemies to show that they're "upgraded" with a power shield. Map design is OK.
The Rogue expansion, Ground Zero is much better all around.
>>342745486
people do play it and there are plenty of shitty games that have a lot of players / sold a lot of copies so that's hardly a factor to judge the quality of a game on
>>342745951
i'm keen on reckoning, i mgiht be in the minority but i really like redneck rampage which xatrix also made back in the day
>>342746368
>people do play it
No, anon, nobody plays Reflex and nobody ever did. It might as well not exist.
Why tell a lie when I can just automatically factually debunk it in front of everyone? What do you gain? In real life you'd be embarrassed out of the room right now.
>You will never experience Quake for the first time ever again
>>342746536
He's not lying when he says people play it. It's mostly veterans though
>>342744865
Same, I wanted those characters from Q3A to have abilities from the start. At the time I imagined that only in a specific gamemode though. QC is pretty much a dream game to me.
I'm replaying Q2 and I'll try Team Arena (singeplayer) after because it's the only official Quake thing I didn't play.
Then it'll be Q3 mods I played at the time to make a nostalgia trip before Quakecon (Bid For Power, Western Quake 3 and other weird ones if I find them)
Why does /vr/ have such a love boner for Doom but not Quake?
>>342746536
>le steam chart
people do play it not hundreds of thousands but it's not dead like hundreds of others and has an actual community
go back to jerking off over overwatch fanart
>>342746719
>You will never live in the 90's again
>>342746873
mod?
>>342746941
more accessible and a larger mod community basically
>>342746941
Doom is a much, much simpler game with much simpler possibilities. Quake starts getting way harder than doom real, real fast, and most people just can't handle it.
Just wait, within 30 minutes the guy will show up who says quake is based on "bullet sponge" design. He comes to every thread.
>>342747104
>a larger mod community basically
Quake mods can do exponentially more than doom mods and the quake community is far larger than the doom community in terms of quality content produced all time.
>>342747324
However the level design editor from what I've heard is a bit more harder to create levels for
>>342747324
>>342747160
like this guy said it's just a far simpler game and quake communities mostly revolve around the multiuplayer aspect rather than singleplayer there are loads more doom singleplayer content than quake
>>342746941
Anyone with half a brain that can draw squares that connect to other squares can make a doom level.
Quake editing is far more complex since you need to build the rooms wall by wall, sculpt the brushes (walls) the shape you want them, place them so that there aren't any holes, make the designs interesting enough to catch the eye, place lighting objects everywhere so you can actually see, compile the map, run the map over and over etc.
>>342747543
Of course it is, doom is basically a flat 2d world. Quake is real 3d.
It's why Quake is inherently far better for playing years in the future. Doom simply can't do the same things, not even rudimentary shit like rooms inside rooms.
>>342747036
It was called "Niflheim Souls Feast" a MP mod where the characters were demons. They could fly and had complex and flashy abilities.
It was quite fun and with the console you could add normal Q3 bots that didn't stand a chance.
It doesn't seem to be downloadable anywhere anymore though, it's just an old screenshot I found.
>>342747629
Zerstorer was a big deal when it came out. Most of the most significant quake mods are multiplayer though.
>>342747543
because it's 3d
most people don't realise how much time goes into making a really good level
trenchbroom is pretty easy to use though
>>342747629
go to quaddicted.com and download the map jam packs
CPMA is GOOD
>>342747964
how long before we see an indie clone of outcast multiplayer?
i'd probably buy it desu
>>342740454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-vUOnREe1Q
>>342748150
outcast is trash cause no staff/dualies
![q2extrem[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Qj1CXwu.jpg "q2extrem[1].jpg")
Does anyone have this?
A retail product, released by id software, with some of my artwork in a mid on there. It's a small thing, but I'll forever be proud of it. People bought my shit at retail.
>>342746941
You make a big room and put a bunch of imps in it with a few other monsters you've got a half way decent room for your level. The same thing doesn't work for quake.
>>342748150
If they make a lightsabering game you just know it's going to be BAMHAM combat. People build ideas around games, they don't build games around ideas anymore.
>>342748382
noice
>>342748382
I bought one myself, actually.
I always thought that design was cool. Is it just rearranged and tinted x-rays?
>>342740454
>barely touch edge of lava for a split milisecond
>AAGHGHH AGHGHHHH
>>342748795
think so.
I made the Mr. T skin for Action Quake 2.
They told me that it was a favorite in the id software office. Still makes me happy. Lol.
I looked at the Quake2 guy with his giant neck life preserver thing and the idea just instantly popped in my head to do it as chains
>turn on god mode.
>Strogg coolant liquid still kills you.
>>342741692
>Knights have the same death animation as Doomguy
>Night Sentinels from D44M are similar in appearance
>>342740579
>>342741107
We'd have been playing at 320x200 on a 14" or 15" monitor, the pixel density is completely different because you're playing on a huge display
I'm very pro-original-quake and I play it at 1920x1200. It doesn't diminish the intent of the art at all imo.
>>342749114
I knew ID lore goes even deeper
>>342749114
deepest lore
>>342749180
What about animation smoothing?
So how's that episode machine games released?
*pa-THUNK!*
*ting* *ting*
>>342749262
That is a big Big Gun.
The level after that one is my favorite.
>>342749285
off, absolutely.
play quake as quake. all original settings. resolution isn't a part of that, though, you better believe we were all scrambling to get away from low res. there was 0 desire to keep it to be "authentic"
>>342745386
What settings/sourceport are you using in Quake 2 anon? those models look pretty neat.
>>342749385
modern level design that doesn't work for quake. not really good. tons of better stuff out there
>>342749430
Strike? Strike is the best level in q2. Fucking ebin level. NOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED
>>342749430
>BIG GUN
4 u
>>342749842
It always looked like Quake 2 player models were hugging their guns.
Some guy on /vr/ dumped a bunch if his GOG games here.
All the Quakes, All the Dooms, etc.
Go nuts you guys:
https://mega.nz/#F!qh5VVSQQ!jNlo8xN9RnLfQSDBEWItbA
is it worth to buy the Quake package on Steam? it's 15 dollars
Reminder that this was the ad.
Reminder that is still the truth a hundred years later.
>>342749591
q2pro
no shitting filtering and some kind of cel shading effecting on the models (I think it looks cool)
>>342749842
That visible weapons patch was so hype back in the day.
have not played any arena fps since I dropped quake 3 (rocket arena) in like 2006~
always waited for something similiar but there never was so now Iam kinda optimistic with quake champions and ut4. it might be a glorious time for arena fps once again, atleast I hope so.
>>342750152
no there are multiple links in this thread. quake money goes to zenimax now not id software.
>>342750160
>"The most important PC game ever"
how this still rings true to this day.
>>342750152
it used to go for $9 past sales. not gonna go cheaper this sale and likely not for the rest of this year. better than nothing I guess. If you do get it on steam some ports don't play nicely with the Steam Overlay and may crash unless you disable it.
>>342750160
this is accurate
>>342750728
can't you just copy all the data out of the quake steam folder, install a source port outside of steam, then paste the game data into the port folder?
>>342750867
Man this ad is fucking trippy
>>342740579
>Do you prefer the more original 320x200 toaster rendering in Quake to higher resolution modes?
No, fucking why? They developed this wonderful 3D engine for a reason, so the levels would be more vertical but also so it would be scalable. Why would you cripple the experience by using low resolutions? Back when it came out it looked uglier than Duke 3D.
>>342750998
90's ads were fucking weird
>>342750989
you could but if you're going to do that what's the point of buying it off steam then if the game is easily piratable? you can get ports to work with the steam games, along with custom levels if you know how to work the launch commands, if you care about having everything on steam and logging hours on there.
>>342751101
>>342750867
>>342750728
>for everyone
>only shows successful white people
>>342751101
is that mr.white?
Why didn't Defrag become a thing?
2hard4casuls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z38Y-SsJL9Q
I just want a first person game that focuses on movement and isn't racing or some Mirros Edge parkour retardation
>>342751242
good old times
>>342751242
these arent american ads :^)
>>342742865
Doom 4 is a solid game, it just doesnt hold a candle to old quake and doom because of how good those were.
>>342751269
Because most people think first person platforming is impossible. Even though not bumping into a corner is the exact same skillset as knowing when to press jump
>>342750152
Quake Live is as good as ever.
Actually now it's even better than before because the previously Premium features are available to everyone, even though the base game costs money.
>>342751242
Well those were the only pro players
Assuming QC is actually good and people want to play it, you think this will remain true?
>>342751269
I started trickjumping in like 2001 (overdrivepc/fatjumps time) and even back in the days freestyle tricking was basically the thing to do. It took years until defrag became a thing within this sub-genre.
I really miss the movement skill ceiling from quake. No other game every made reproduced it besides maybe reflex and warsow but no one plays that shit and reflex is still in alpha and will probably be canceled now that qc is going to happen.
>>342751439
It's not a solid game though
I'm tired of it being given a pass. I'm an FPS freak and I got tired of it in 2 hours.
The arena design and QTE shit ruins it. It shouldn't be given a pass. It could've been great and simply isn't due to intentional design decisions.
>>342751652
>QTE shit
Evidently you never played it. Hell, it sounds like you never watched a video of the game.
>>342741349
The design follows a lot of Quake's usual level design. They just took out all the segments where the level needlessly loops into itself and removed the usual B1 floor that connects the entire level. Quake level design is pretty linear. It only feels complex.
>>342751615
of course.
blacks and nips always stick to fighting game
other asians to rts and moba
what the fuck would white bois do all day long? cs, cod, bf, overwatch or quake
>>342751753
yeah and i'm tired of this too. just stop. nobody needs your fucking garbage, useless, contentless posts like this
>>342751652
The problem is the combat is the mutant hybrid of doom, quake, and even unreal 1. They wanted a lot of enemies like doom, but wanted 3d levels like quake, but enemies with a skillset like unreal. But ypu can't put all of those together at their full potential or it would be impossible as fuck. So they designed a game where as long as you're moving you basically won't get hit. The problem is unlike the older games you don't have to plan where you move. You don't prioritize targets.
>>342751753
the qte is not right but the guy you quoted got it right.
doom 4 has NOTHING to do with the old dooms.
doom was always about complex level design and exploration and not about empty linear hallways followed by arena style shooting.
I mean the new doom is good for what it is but its not a true doom game and a horrible reproduction of what is used to be, I blame brutal doom for this retarded shit.
>>342751840
>Quake's design is linear if you take out the parts that make it nonlinear
these threads are making me just want to fucking kill
Can we have a 20 year and 120 iq limit for quake threads thanks.
>doom threads
>everyone loves doom 4, if you don't you get drowned out
>quake thread
>people actually discussing the merits and flaws of doom 4
I've been coming here for 10 years and it still astounds me how much better quake threads are on the whole.
>>342751860
Koreans are picking up Overwatch but that's most likely Blizzard's influence.
>>342751970
It's fun but in 20 more years we'll still have fun in vanilla doom, but we'll have forgotten about doom 4. It doesn't have the same fundamentals that old doom had.
>op didnt include quake 4
I am adamant it wasnt a bad game. It wasnt old quake levels of gameplay but the strogg is a cool action horror setup
>>342752264
I want QC to have powersliding.
>>342751651
>>342751615
I have a feeling QC is gonna be a big disappointment it's already confirmed that the guy that was in charge of QL when they implemented loadouts etc is in charge of QC
>https://twitter.com/SyncError
there is some ex gearbox guy too but i can't remember the name
>>342751937
That is a really good explanation of it. Now like I said, I'm an FPS guy, I played these games starting in 1994 with Doom 2.
And when I played Doom 4 after a couple levels my instinct was "the enemies are too good"...I want the enemies to be worse. I want them to be less deadly. I want to have to move less.
This isn't going to be a popular opinion here because people are so focused in dickwaving here. But the intensity that they imparted into the game ISN'T GOOD because that ISN'T WHAT I PLAY SINGLE PLAYER FOR!
In a single player game you want to feel like god, like you are fucking OWNING the enemies. Crysis had this same problem, with guys surviving headshots and the suit running out of power in 5 seconds. Instead of the suit making you feel strong like it was supposed to, it made you feel weak
>>342752228
I agree but you cant really blame them for doing what they did. If anything its the fault of the industry. A real reproduction of classic doom would probably have gotten shit sales.
Having said that Iam kind surprised by the quake champions approach, it goes against everything in the industry and Iam actually suprised.
>>342752141
yeah because people were totally discussing Doom 4 10 years ago
are you retarded or ?
also new Doom is a masterpiece, sorry if you have shit taste, yes of course its not perfect, nothing is.
you're the one trying to start a war here, go back to your ps4 vs PC threads
heres a download for quake 1 if anyone wants it
https://my.mixtape.moe/gqttgr.zip
>>342751439
>>342751652
it's ok by todays standards but there is just something off about it
it just doesn't feel like a proper idtech game and even rage got that right
>>342752395
>https://twitter.com/SyncError
tim willits confirmed in several interviews that there wont be loadouts and everything will be pickable only from items that spawn inside the map.
>>342752442
I wouldn't say you have to own the enemies, unreal's appeal other than atmosphere is that the enemies are challenges on their own. The problem with doom 4 is that it doesn't encourage planning.
>>342752510
>it goes against everything in the industry and Iam actually suprised.
To be fair, things have been getting "zanier" over the last few years. I mean even call of duty has jetpacks and is in space now.
>>342751652
The "qte shit" actually serves to encourage dangerous gameplay getting in close quarters. You have to be constantly on the move on the highest difficulty to avoid near instant deaths and the qtes are a small compensation to allow you to take more damage more frequently making the game a more intense experience. Yeah its different from old doom but that ship sailed with doom 3, at least 4 is a good game.
>>342752395
>SyncError
What did he mean by this?
>>342753038
Can you even create non-Euclidean geometry in Radiant?
>>342748150
Isn't that what Blade Symphony wanted to be?
>>342752442
its kinda true.
the whole weapon balance is kinda wonky in d4.
just look at how many rl hits you need for cacos or mancubi for example. it takes like ages to kill them but that is expected because of the way the engine handles enemy spawns.
not sure but I think there can only be like 20 or something monster at the same time on the map, people tested that shit in snapmap so its natural that they tried to balance the quantity with quality by giving the monster more health.
its sad
>>342741252
Who is best Q3A waifu, and why is it Crash?
>>342753206
>not sure but I think there can only be like 20 or something monster at the same time on the map
im sure its due to console constraints because the monsters seem to have very advanced AI, advanced AI takes up a lot of memory when it runs.
>>342744023
>people aren't getting killed by triggers
>instead they get killed bytrigger_hurt
>>342752521
It's funny how it's easy to tell your age from the way you structure your sentences, and that you also think doom4 is a masterpiece
>>342753223
Slash and Hunter are great too.
But yeah, Crash.
I hope they know which Quake characters need to be back in QC.
>>342752717
DUDE thats what im fucking saying, the shooting in Rage feels exactly like an id game!! even years later with new age people making it, the feel is right
and everyone here shits on rage relentlessly
>>342753016
The QTE shit serves to make the game retarded for new age retards and make the game easy.
>>342753223
She just is.
>>342745197
>Once I get some weed
>>342753223
there's not many options considering the majority of Q3A women are fucked up looking.
>>342753641
that Hunter is too short.
>>342753641
>That mountain of fattness in the form of a woman
What kind of SJW shit is this?
>>342753547
I'm 29 and if you judge based on my posts, because I'm not a native english speaker, you're even more retarded than I thought;
then again this is v, full of /v/ermin like you with terrible taste who like to start console wars and other shit like that, so I'm not surprised.
enjoy your circlejerk
>>342753165
Another guy, not a dev on QC but he probably has some knowledge of what's happening. No Strogg for any new Quake game.
>>342753652
You have to bring the enemy to essentially a few bullets of dying. What it DOES do is encourage you to fight up close rather than far away. You are a faggot
>>342751983
Needless looping =/= nonlinearity
You still have to complete the level in a specific sequence. Explosive jumping is an exploit since it was not considered when the levels were being created. id did not intend for players to reach areas early through advanced movement mechanics. Verticality was only there to take advantage of the fully 3D engine. Not a decision on id's part to make the games less linear.
>>342753910HAH HAH HAA YEAH
>>342753978
Because the strogg was a cool horror setting and its beyond reason that people dont want more of that
>>342753165
Yes, but it requires a different engine.
You can make non-Euclidean stuff (rooms bigger on the inside, hallways longer on one side than the other, etc) in the Portal versions of Source, and Source shares 80% of its map-related lineage with id tech and the Quake engine. Hammer is just a renamed Worldcraft editor.
>>342753898
>the majority of Q3A women are fucked up looking.
Everyone in Quake is kind of fucked up looking.
Except Ranger. He's just having a really bad day.
>>342754121
>that
>only 170lbs
>>342754587
Most of that fat is pure improv.
![quake_tattoo_by_parkita[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mQzwSVC.jpg "quake_tattoo_by_parkita[1].jpg")
Remember that odd period in the 2000's where girls kept getting Quake logo tattoos as tramp stamps or crotch paintings?
>>342754409
>>342753641
Who was responsible for the art direction for Quake 3 anyway? I really liked that style it's like a mix of 90's comic book anti-hero and cyberpunk. Hell even Daikatana had that influence.
>that day I wasted a ton of ink and paper printing out the Quake 3 editor manual
>>342754859
Adrian Carmack and a few other guys at id.
It's a very 90's thing. UT'99 is kind of the same way but mostly still just same-sized people and one war-cow, progressing to UT2004 which had the same variety in playermodel archetypes as Q3A.
How are Quake 3 models fair when they have size differences or even anatomy, like the one without head?
>>342754706
>>342755403
Our Elder God taught us not to be ashamed of our nails, especially since they're such good size and all.
>>342755327
The visuals differ but they all have the same collision and hitboxes, hence why most people force all enemies to use the same model in the options.
>>342755327
they literally all have the same hitbox
people like to force enemy model to keel because he is the closest to the real hitbox
Quakecon... Soon
>>342755164
Both Q3A and UT99 used different skins for the same models, but difference being UT had more skins-per-model and had head/face options. I'm hoping QC doesn't pull some bullshit like there only being 6 characters or paid/unlockable skins but I'm not holding my breath.
So are Machine Games going to make a proper Quake 1 sequel?
I'd be down with that.
>>342754853
>tfw all id Software classics are all getting great modern sequels
New Commander Keen when?I hope they don't fuck up Quake Champions.
>>342755897
Q3A has head options, you can swap out heads using the console. It rarely looks 'right', though.
>>342755839
there is actually a QW 2v2 competition today for quakecon it will probably be on the quakecon twitch
there is also the reflex AU duel cup and QL duel comp finals
zlive is streaming those
>>342754108
While Quake maps do involve linear progression, they also have their share of nonlinear progression thanks to all that "needless looping". Take for example E2M2, you need to jump into the room with the Shambler and take the gold key to then open the gold door and reach the exit, however, there are multiple routes all along the level before and after those steps. You don't have to cross the bridge at the start, you can jump in the moat. Just jumping in the moat completely flips the encounters in the level around as opposed to going through the obvious bridge route. The way the moat route loops back into the center of level puts you in different positioning in relation to the enemy encounters, and let's not forget that you also get different weapons and powerups too along this route, it gives a totally new experience to the level.
There is nothing that comes close to that in this poor and subpar episode made by some mediocre mapper that only used his connections with Bethesda to get the gall to pass this off as Episode 5 of Quake. The areas in the levels of this episode are compartmentalized, isolated and there is almost always only one singular entrance to each encounter. It's very static. It's a poor imitation of Quake.
>Quake Live gets trading cards on Steam
>mfw I see what they did to Hunter
>>342756260
>Gauntlet equipped in right hand
>mirror shows it in left hand
>>342756260
interesting so did id Tech 4. I remember fucking around with Doom 3 files making Z-Sec variants by headswapping them with zombie heads back in the day.
>>342756689
>No card drops remaining
How do I even earn them?
>>342756901
buy them on the market or hope for a booster pack
>>342756186
>30 year old Keen is a Quake Champion
They should do this
>>342756825
>>342753678
>that Crash face reveal
>>342756825
What sound does this make?
>>342756825
Id Tech 3 doesn't have true mirrors.UE1 does though.
>>342757026
The whole thing would've been better if she kept the helmet on, honestly.
>>342756689
I Googled it and wow, that's lame.
Here's a classic Hunter for your troubles.
>>342757353
Gotta agree with this anon, helmeted/faceless chicks do crazy things to my dick. Taking the helmet off ruins it.
Shame there's so little art of Crash or the Q3A characters period.
>>342757050
>QC
>RL gets to keep its old design
>RG and LG get fucked
To be fair the LG looked nice from what I could see in the trailer, but the RG was awful.
>>342752157
what do south american people play?
>>342757792
Hangman
any noobs that still whirl the wheel at QL regardless?
>>342756609
the levels weren't bad but they just don't compare to some of the community maps
>>342751860
fps is pretty much on par with mobas/rts in korea, at least.
>>342758104
>Blackrock Mountain
>>342757214
the mirror effect in unreal is just a trick
>>342757892
Ah, what an accurate and honest post my friend.
>>342758104
From what map (pack) is that? What are the essential map packs that are equivalent to Doom megawads? Quaddicted seems to be mostly single maps.
>>342758278>Prisoner 8 4 9 is escaping
>>342758104
>that field of view
Christ.
>>342758278
No it isn't. Mirrors reflect other mirrors too.
>>342758104
I expect them to at least live up to the official maps. Nerve Software outdid id Software's Doom levels with No Rest for the Living. MachineGames didn't even come close.
>>342758361
Map Jam 6, jam6_daz
>>342758361
map jam 6
quaddicted is the place for singleplayer stuff as far as i know they still have map jams on and off i think
>>342737521
FUK YA KUEQ!
>>342758539
how did mirrors work in unreal?
>>342753719
don't make fun of me but i absolutely have to have weed ot enjoy anything at all
don't have depression
>>342758539
how does that even work i always thought they just cloned the room
>>342757359
>mfw mynx moan when dead
>>342758278
Is a texture with the "mirror" tag. Trust me, I made some shitty maps for old UT
>>342758840
>relying on drugs to help your problems
>>342753223
>Crash
>best
All she has is abs and no face, both of which Hunter is superior at.
Crash isa degenerate slut who fucked Doomguy to get him a job, enjoys being constantly dominated by new, weak fighters, and regularly gets off to pissing herself and worse.
![a0a9452463b71e93db7d40dc5658d99d[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ojngoh5.jpg "a0a9452463b71e93db7d40dc5658d99d[1].jpg")
>>342754859
>>342755164
The art style he's referring to specifically is the work of Kenneth Scott, not carmack. They hired Kenneth Scott based on the stuff he was making in the quake community and he maintained the exact same style.
That metallacity you see with sharp contrasting edges and stuff is his trademark.
>>342759037
>>342758539
You can see this in Deus Ex too, in the Euro night club (same engine, same effect).
>>342759301
Any pics of his Quake stuff?
>>342758726
>>342758849
Don't know, there might be some documentation of it buried out there on the net. You'd have to ask one of the engine programmers yourself. UE1 in general had lots of neat tricks like portals, ammo counters, and scoreboard tickers.
>>342759451
Can you see yourself through a portal?
Can you shoot yourself with a hitscan weapon through a portal?
>>342759135
>using medication to cope with sickness
![protofiend[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/O0kd4VV.gif "protofiend[1].gif")
>>342759421
Here's probably the single piece that did most to get him hired. This skin so far exceeded the quality of every other available user made skin for quake that it wasn't funny
>>342759451
Man, I never thought about how cool the scoreboard ticker-screens in Morpheus are.
Sheeit.
>>342759582
yes and yes. that's the only map i know of that has portals like that. there might be more out there somewhere but good luck finding them considering all but a couple Unreal sites are now DEAD.
>>342759451
that reminds me of those really old videos of prey back when it was gonna be on UE
>>342759724
Goddamn. DId he make this that someone posted? Looks similar.
>>342759653
Don't do either. You're the one to fix your problems, man. Make it happen!
>>342759913
no, that's dire protofiend. I'm sure DPF influenced kenneth scott.
>>342760210
>>342759913
oh, it turns out it is the same guy. nevermind.
that's weird because DPF's old email address is [email protected] guess he was using his moms email or something, lol. 90s internet.
But yeh I remember that Quake1 doomguy skin coming out and EVERYONE being blown away. Gold ages, man.
So Quake art-style/direction do you preffer?
Lovecraftian
Dystopian Sc-Fi
90's Dystopian Cyberpunk
Horror Sci-fi
>>342760562
The industrial/cyber sci-fi stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiQO7cl5rFE
>>342760562
i used to be a horror sci-fi cyperpunk guy that loved quake 2.
But now i like all of them together.
>>342759301
Shit that looks really familiar now.Doom 3's art direction was the best thing about it honestly.
>>342760562
Q1 Lovecraft by far, although Q3A's eclectic mix of stuff comes in a near second.
>>342760562
lovecraft but the original isn't just that
the series is just fucking weird quake can be applied to pretty much anything as long as you get to shoot monsters
is QW still alive? I was just a scared little kid back then that didn't get to experience it.
>>342760651
this looks like shiiiiiiit
>>342760909
the lighting stuff is really cool though.
>>342760651
this adds no value to quake
>>342760562
Best is Ranger being part of the military which have a rule over a dystopian Sci-Fi Earth but during that time its realised that a source of eldritch horror has been what slowly drove people mad. Then he gets sucked into lovecraft world to end it
>>342760651
Eh that actually looks kind of cool.
What are those weapon models though?Where can I get them?
>>342761234
>lovecraft this lovecraft that
the design of quake has nothing to do with "lovecraft". the levels have specific texture themes like base, elder world, wizard, medieval.
Quake's bosses use names stolen from lovecraft and are supposed to be elder horrors. that's the extent of it
Stop calling quake lovecraftian, has nothing to do with any major element of its design. a "lovecraftian" game would take place in early 20th century new england.
BTW, quake guy didn't come from earth. He's in hell, or a hell type dimension like silent hill.
>>342761504
they might be lifted out of half-life maybe? they look a little like the Deathmatch Classic weapons.
>>342761634
no they don't.
>>342759212
Let's face it, Crash wrecks face on nightmare difficulty
>>342761504
>>342761634
>>342761828
Its another part of that mod thats already out
http://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/quake-15-weapons-pack
>>342763046
thanks senpai
>everyone arguing over what aesthetic nu Quake should be
>when id themselves couldn't even decide on what Quake 1 is supposed to be when they were making it
POTTERY.
>>342760878
it's still alive
pcgamer had an article for the 20th anniversary and are hosting 3 QW servers for a week
>>342761634
they aren't deathmatch classic weapons
>>342763265
Still a good art direction. Quake 1 & 3 have top tier aesthetic
>>342753223
>filename
Now where's the unclothed version
