We are settling this right now
http://strawpoll.me/4281208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZ-3p3DDV8
Steampunk is alternate universe garbage where you glue cogs and shit onto brass-colored guns and goggles.
Cyberpunk is the future.
Cyberpunk is best.
>>342640318
I see most people here make good choices
>>342640545
you say that but
>>342640610
There's why. I bet tumblr prefers steampunk too.
>>342640545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3ibdil2UM
Why not both? Both of them have stylish point.
>>342640610
>a bunch of faggot who try to be special snowflake even if it means they look stupid in the meanwhile
Something like this exist for steampunk?
Cyber is clearly the patricians choice, steam is for hipster faggots
>>342640318
we had this a thousand times allready and every time cyberpunk BTFO of steampunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzjm9E1hwg
>>342640865
No, because the genre is shit and barely a thing.
"Steampunk" is fucking gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FKNViujeM
>>342640865
>human revolution in great-tier
god when will this "HR is good" meme end?
>>342640865
>I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
>FF7
>MGS
>Dreamfall
>XCOM
>Routine
>FF7 again
>Dreamfall Chapters
Apparently this chart creator thinks cyberpunk just means sci-fi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NAhlVRaZ4
post some good synthwave
>>342640865
>system shock 2 over 1
>oni on the list at all
>deus ex 2 and 3 on the list at all
>final fantasy 7
what the fuck man who made this shitty list?
>steampunk
loving every laugh
Steampunk is dogshit. The name doesn't even make sense as unlike Cyberpunk it borrows nothing from punk. It's some unoriginal copycat "me too" shit.
>settling this right now
>it's been settled a hundred times before.
OP is trying real hard to be a faggot today!
>>342641362
The fact that Oni is on the list instead of one of two superior Ghost in the Shell games which Oni blatantly rips off of blows my mind.
>>342640318
Steampunk. We are basically living in cyberpunk right now.
>>342641552
There are several GitS games in the list, though.
I like the steampunk cosplay. Period.
>>342640318
steampunk came and went
Cyberpunk has been around since the 80s
>>342641619
I HATE THIS FUCKING MEME
>>342641619
We won't be living in cyberpunk until we can all go out and buy synthetic waifus, chummer.
>>342641697
But why is the generic ripoff version of it above them?
I never got the point of steam"punk", where's the punk?
I mean with cyberpunk, rebellion plays a big role. The whole overarching theme of big evil corporations and the man keeping you down, lots of stories always being set in downtrodden/crime infested areas, the whole "high tech, low life" thing...
Whereas cyberpunk it's uppercrust victorian shit. Where's the punk at, man?
>>342641619
speculative fiction > alternative history
Yesterday, today, tomorrow and always.
>>342641767
>meme
Whatever you say, anon. It's not identical, obviously, but we are pretty close to where Deus Ex HR in many aspects.
>>342641815
So, maybe 20-30 years assuming the world doesn't fully go back to isolated nationalism?
>>342640318
Why is Steampunk so cringy Reddit-tier, and Cyber is so cool future shit and based-tier?
>>342641848
I thought 4chan liked alt history? You guys always try to revise it.
>>342641831
Because it was a better game, obviously.
>>342641845
industrial revolution
>>342641619
Lol u wish
>>342642000
I didn't say I don't like alternate history, I said speculative fiction is better. You really need to work on your reading comprehension.
>>342641885
>So, maybe 20-30 years assuming the world doesn't fully go back to isolated nationalism?
You realize that's what they were saying back in the 80s when cyberpunk was new, right? It's always 20-30 years away.
>>342642007
Oni is dog-shit, especially compared to ghost in the shell on PS2.
>>342642124
So you actively believe that such a thing is impossible?
What are some recent gaems that fall into this genre?
Only cyberpunk I can think of is DE:HR, and Bioshock Infinite for steampunk.
>>342642229
Opinions are like that, people disagree. It's why Oni is higher on that list.
>inb4 OBJECTIVELY
>>342640318
cyberpunk has sexier sloots
Steampunk is shit. Cyberpunk coud be great, if it wasn't so dark all the time. I realy don't get why it's like that. Why nobody mekes it look bright, colorful and %%comfy%%?
Final Fantasy XIII-2 Academia got it right. Thogh it's got more sci-fi feel to it.
>>342640318
>shitty obvious nerfgun with a funnel
gets me every time
>>342641845
The name was just jumping on the bandwagon and trying to create a similarity to Cyberpunk. It accurately reflects how superficial steampunk is.
Unfortunately that whole -punk suffix naming bullshit caught on because of it. Now you have people forcing shit like "clockpunk".
>>342642257
Not impossible but 20-30 years is an easy prediction to make for almost anything.
>>342642320
If you don't believe games can be objectively better than others you'd have just as much fun playing ET on Atari-2600 than anything on that list.
>A System Shock Remastered demo is coming next week
>A System Shock Remastered demo is coming next week
>A System Shock Remastered demo is coming next week
how hype are you drecks?
>>342641815
I'm saving up for a Cherry 2000
>>342642497
Dieselpunk is Steampunk done right.
>>342642718
I just hope the gameplay isn't actually as slow as what they showed off in the trailer. I'll still play it regardless.
>>342642681
There could be someone that does.I'd say they have a shit opinion, but they get to have it.
>>342642036
The square root of 906.01 is
>>342642023
You might have a case if there was ever a lot of steampunk fiction that featured the lower classes/criminals involved, or their exploitation.
Given that steampunk usually focuses around the more well-off classes and scientists and the overall mood is one of progress\advancement instead of "dystopia that will never improve", I think it would be more accurate to call it Steam-Antipunk.
>>342642774
That's got nothing on atompunk, chump.
Don't even get me started on coalpunk, and hydroelectric punk is the shit.
This boardpunk is so plebpunk.
meme punk
>>342642793
You'd say they have a shit opinion, because they DO have a shit opinion, objectively.
Thus the game, and their opinions are both shit.
>>342642382
look for scifi then. cyber punk is mean to be dark.
man against the machine, evil big corporations, low life, the abuse of technology and lost of humanity in the process. shit like this is what define the genre
>>342642723
Underated reference.
>>342640865
project lodus is dead
>>342642950
You've got something there. Everyone is addicted to memes and I'd argue it hasn't improved their life but at the same time they can't quit it because of the dependency they've developed.
Imagine Idiocracy, but all the billboards are plastered in "rage" comics.
>>342642382
>Cyberpunk coud be great, if it wasn't so dark all the time. I realy don't get why it's like that.
>Cyberpunk
>Cyber
>Punk
>>342643006
Everyone has a shit opinion. Even you, anon.
>>342642382
I think you're missing the "punk" part of the word. All "X-punk"-themes are dystopic.
What you want is just some utopian sci-fi.
>>342643087
I was really surprised how entertaining that movie was for an obscure 80's b movie about a guy trying to track down a sex robot.
>>342643140
>Imagine Idiocracy, but all the billboards are plastered in "rage" comics.
I would unironically fund this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byv8qSdFqAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zKhsT5naI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TtfiZzlRI
>>342641815
3D print your own.
This isn't /mu/ faggot. Fuck your neo-80's meme music.
>>342642382
>I realy don't get why it's like that.
Its a Dystopia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UdTvLoUSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY66fdMt4vc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzjm9E1hwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSjekgcalI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299IrNxfO7w
>>342642382
>cyberpunk
>in a brightly lit, pollution free metropolis
>with no gangs of whimsically dressed cyborg muggers addicted to fictional drugs
>or impossibly attractive vat cloned chrome ladies you can pay to have sex with
For what purpose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er416Ad3R1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FMI3OZAZ7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqe7jPX6DQY
Reposting in this thread:
What type of cyberpunk music does /v/ think is the best.
As far as I can tell there's three categories:
Ghost In The Shell 1995 Kenji Kawai / Ed Harrison Neotokyo OST
Blade Runner Synthetic Blues and Jazz
Modern Synthwave EDM
The edm can be good, and Blade Runner Blues is fantastic, but nothing compares too those Oshii movies IMO. Neotokyo's OST has enough dissonance to it for it to work without it sounding like its made with a gameboy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwsmIfD9f2A
Also you faggots should watch Patlabor 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmlwhaEEgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyZQUEMZlCU
>>342640318
Always cyber. With cyberpunk, you have the technology to trick the mind into believing it is in a steampunk universe or any other universe you damn well please, using neural implants.
With steampunk, that's the setting you got and you're fucked if you wanna diverge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfQW_nA1s8
>>342640318
Guy in the top left has his gun backwards famalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G22X5X49VhM
>>342646989
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cXRJQifadw
Are there any Raypunk games out there? Only one I can think of was that one level from Timesplitters 2.
>>342646896
Man that picture is awesome. Cyberpunk does not bother me at all. Also what bothers the fuck out of me is I live in a place where our city thinks vending machines for food are ugly and the devil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMjCxV7u8OA
>>342647090
That picture is deceptive, china is not cyberpunk, not even close it's just trash. Most of the major city locations are empty of people after 12am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRUKLKCY-w
Who playing VA11HallA here?
>>342640318
No ones going to say steampunk, just make a cyberpunk thread
>>342648104
I'll play it when it's on sale for like $5 or so. Speaking of which, any other good not well known or indie cyberpunk games on sale on Steam right now?
>>342640610
We had a poll on this site and cyberpunk won
>>342640318
Cyberpunk is sexy, and getting closer to our reality by the day.
Steampunk on the other hand is the fedoracore of punk's.
>>342640865
>Something like this exist for steampunk?
Nope because Steampunk has nothing going for it. Dirigibles and cogs does not a setting make. Cyberpunk has so many different themes to mess around with and an overall broader setting to play with than
>I made a steam-powered rifle, that surely makes me unique and different
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHaQysq4S0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7yVFdR_ZmI
>>342641395
that's dieselpunk you dip
Will we live to see true cyberpunk? I feel like we're already in the early stages.
>>342649194
it's shitpunk is what it is
>>342649325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8iLkJtbevE
>>342642928
>not cogenerative-gasturbinepunk
Get a load of this pleb
>>342640610
DUDE COGWHEELS LMAO
>>342648954
Steampunk could be good, but most content is shit for it
>>342642382
Look up post-cyberpunk. It's a thing and exactly what you want.
>>342649859
What goddamn themes does it have? Because as it stands its as shallow as a kiddie pool. Even diesel-punk has more depth and /v/ basically makes that shit up.
>>342640318
This is a videogames board, so obviously cyberpunk, because there are good examples of cyberpunk fiction in videogames.
99% of steampunk games aren't steampunk at all, they're fantasy with top hats and gears. The closest to a proper steampunk game I've ever played was Amnesia AMFP, and even that degenerates into fantasy magic by the end. Videogames treat steampunk as an aesthetic, not a legitimate subgenre.
I think reddit's infatuation with steampunk and 4chan's preference for cyberpunk might harken down to how the userbases see themselves and the characters they identify with.
A steampunk protagonist is traditionally a gentleman adventurer, a tinkerer, or a quick-witted rogue, something I imagine most of reddit sees themselves as.
In comparison, traditional cyberpunk protagonists are, to quote the oft repeated, "marginalized, alienated loners who lived on the edge of society", and even when they aren't, the characters are often doomed anyway due to noir's influence on the genre. I'd say that accurately describes 4chan's userbase.
>that elevator opens up to an ambush in the Datadyne building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X1_4OaQnos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQLqsshQLA
Would Steampunk be good if it focused on the actual punk, as in the class struggle of the newly aware urban proletariat against the oppressive upper class in a dystopian past instead of just being a pretext for fedoras to roleplay as enlightened gentlemen of leisure with cogs on their top hats?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_0VX2IrNc
>>342640610
Proof please. They can't be THAT tasteless
>>342650283
I imagine it would at least be better than now. As for good, that would depend on the skill of the writer and whether the setting is going to take place in not!London. That's another problem of Steampunk, they build up this entire setting and then stick around mostly in England rather than seeing how the rest of the world develops with the tech.
Hell, you could easily make the setting about the powers of globalism, conquering the environment, class warfare, and trying to weave faith and tech together but nope, throw some gears on it.
>implying thats how cyberpunk will work after uts ran through the feminist filter
>>342650510
As someone who has a bitch sister that forces me to browse r/askreddit with her, I can tell you firsthand that reddit is as bland and tasteless as pita chips.
>there will never be a leviathan game
why live
>>342640318
why no both you fucktard?
>>342650283
didn't order 1886 try to do that?
Didn't turn out so well
>>342640545
The only steampunk work I've seen that I feel is worthy of the word "punk" is BioShock Infinite, and only because the bright, shiny and happy Jules Verne-ian 1890s Disneyland-Main Street, USA society that the flying city of Columbia is presented as is quickly revealed to be a facade rather early on, and the game goes on to show off the inherent social problems that people faced in the late 1800s-early 1900s (e.g. racism, sexism, social immobility, company towns, religious control over government and business, etc.). Anything else trying to ape Jules Verne while stupidly calling itself "punk" can go eat a dick.
>>342650283
If it's written well, it'll be good steampunk (and worthy of using the word "punk"). Otherwise, it will just have to settle for being worthy of "punk" even though it's also a piece of shit.
>>342651058
Because one is objectively better than the other.
>>342651079
One failed example isnt enough to discount an idea entierly
>>342646784
>Ed Harrison Neotokyo OST
truly patrician taste
>>342651079
I think it had more to do with it being a shit game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFafKvgpIRo
>>342640318
So boring brown shit everywhere or beautiful colorful cities? I think I'll take Cyberpunk any day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kATLe0KIrZY
>>342650913
How do you mean anonymous? Does she only take off your chastity belt after watching you browse reddit for X hour?
>>342649325
We're absolutely seeing the early stages now. Economic turmoil, massive wealth disparity, a massive amount of social justice issues and SJWs, hacktivism is in full swing, megacorporations, TPP, fracturing peoples, multiculturalism and ultra-nationalism, extreme lowlife and a myopic populace centered around personal and material gain over "greater good" or long term focus, massive leaps forward in medical technology and genetics, lots of racism and classism and a whole host of -isms, sprawling metropolises and constant new architectural feats building grand new buildings, foreign wars and distant, vague threats of destruction turning into often violent rioting and the breakdown of civil discourse, mad men and women in office doing crazy, stupid, and dangerous shit often to appease their corporate ties, widespread accepted surveillance, the establishment of privacy in the fallout of the NSA, governments going after whistleblowers,etc.
We live in a fully realized cyberpunk reality. We don't have widespread mechanical prosthesis and that likely won't happen due to the recent breakthroughs in stem cell research, but gene splicing and manipulation will undoubtedly be big. Then you also have the smart-AI problem too which isn't too far off. We live right in the middle of a genuine cyberpunk era and it's not going away in our lifetimes. It has every hallmark of the genre in our everyday lives. You actually lived to see it, there just aren't any flying cars or mechanics hanging off our bodies except google glass and smart watches just yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWuDwNysX-A
DIESELPUNK MASKER RACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNPS27eWLoo
>>342651992
>Dieselpunk
>not based Stirlingpunk
>>342640318
Whichever has more tits hanging out
I'm making a new genre. It's going to be called Punkpunk. It's gonna be pretty punk.
>>342652190
So, cyberpunk then. Steampunk is obsessed with Victorian-era fashion (or to be more specific, pop-culture's versions of Victorian-era fashion), which means corsets, and not showing off anything more than legs. Breasts are off the table.
>>342652190
Definitely cyberpunk. You'd be lucky to even see cleavage in steampunk.
>>342652260
Mite b cool. Dealing with the issues of anarchism in a modernized society would be neat.
>>342652260
>Not brutalpunk
>>342652421
>anarchism in a modernized society would be neat.
You mean communism?
>>342652260
Do you feel lucky, punk?
>>342652448
You is dildos
>>342652564
No, I mean actual anarchism. The only order you can hope for on a regular basis will come from your own home.
And when I think of punk I refuse to think about these modern fucks who wouldn't know actual rebellion or injustice if it slapped them upside the head.
>>342652421
>>342652372
Damn, steampunk sounds more like muslimpunk
When is this new game coming out? I want to play it looks awesome
>always a dystopian fantasy no matter what "punk" the setting is
Aside from maybe papers please, is there any game where I can play as the government rather than so rebel, anti establishment fucktard?
And no, a defector doesn't count.
![wp26f955b5[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/2IUb1oD.png "wp26f955b5[1].png")
Cyberpunk has all sorts of interesting themes, like transhumanism and all powerful corporations.
Steampunk needs to reinvent itself a bit, right now it's just a dumb aesthetic, occasionally with some obvious criticism about victorian era work conditions.
Why doesn't it explore something like imperialism, what if instead of england or a fictional equivalent, the game is instead in Central Asia focusing on the great game?
What about focusing on a once great, fragmented empire being slowly torn apart by advancced imperialist nations, like happened with imperial China?
https://youtu.be/HmpE1PRTzyQ?t=17s
>>342652897
>Cyberfantasypunk
Hnnng
>>342652897
Well it DOES contain "punk", it kind implies being an anti-establishment retard.
>>342652854
No. Steampunk at least lets you show women's faces. Victorian-era people were stereotyped as total prudes, and that's how they are in pop-culture (especially steampunk).
>>342652897
Judge Dredd, Deux Ex and EYE come to mind.
>>342653148
Wich means there is an estanlishment to rebel to you fucking retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEpGtjXwQtg
>>342652897
There's a Judge Dredd FPS, if you're willing to stretch the definition of "cyberpunk" to cover "dystopian future" in general. IIRC, it's really cheap on Steam (like, around $3 or so).
>>342653343
I don't think >>342653148 was calling me an idiot anon. He was agreeing with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak1-qLbHHCM
>>342653343
>Wich means there is an estanlishment to rebel to you fucking retard
So...? When did i imply there wasn't an establishment?
What's your fucking point dumbass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6ZdUgMvc8
>>342650913
I remember when I was a teenager and I told people my sister "forced" me to do things.
>"Hey anon, how do you know so much about that disney show?"
>"MY SISTER FORCES ME TO WATCH IT WITH HER"
>>342650913
What's worse, being a faggot that browses reddit out of his own volition and makes up dumb excuses or a spineless chump that gets forced by his sister to browse reddit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBtqmxzlCo
love this video so much
>>342653776
>>342650913
>"Hey anon, how do you know so much about dragon dildos?"
>"MY SISTER FORCES ME TO FUCK MYSELF WITH THEM"
>>342652735
No yous ams dildos.
>>342654058
>>342654078
Fucking dildos!
>>342640318
steampunk is for fags desu senpai
>>342640865
dishonored and arcanum are my only examples, but both were good
>>342653504
>>342653530
Oh, I see. I'm sorry, don't mind me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1UdTvLoUSY
>Cyberpunk setting
>Has magic, guns, and fantasy races
Damn, shadowrun is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hugowO0sSrM
>>342650913
>talking smack about pita chips
baka you belong there tbqh senpai
isn't King of the Hill just the struggle of a propanepunk activist unable to spread his message?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB3ibdil2UM
So I'm going to assume most people are going to absolutely hate these links but I think they're interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcXVZFlSWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y29GL6Q8NX0
>These aren't in order; they tell a story same for the above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR_kOfguiAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rI9L0WGUro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTvLFioq2YU
>>342642274
shadowrun, system shock, E.Y.E for cyberpunk
Dishonored for steampunk
>>342653428
looks like Lana Rain
>>342655435
Nah, Hank Hill is far too in favor of taking the normal, legal way of dealing with things. He also enjoys shitting on, at least at that point in time, non-conformists for being weird.
>>342641275
It's good, but not great.
>>342641362
MGS is actually pretty close cyberpunk (especially the Solid Snake timeline), but shit like SS2 is not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8FYYCI8MW8
