If Undertale came out against Chrono Trigger in 1995,.would anything be different now?
no, it would be unnoticed by most people who'd be too busy playing actually good video games instead
No because Undertale isn't memorable or timeless.
If undertale came out in 1995 people's heads would explode because several things would be impossible on a console
Undertale succeeded because it was cheap, easily available, runs on anything and had the internet and word of mouth going for it. If it came out back then, it would be trashed for being short as fuck with no replay value and simply wouldn't be able to stand up against other retail games of the era.
Undertale would be ahead of it's time if it came out in '95, and probably would be lumped in with the tons of other JRPG games, even though it's not a JRPG.
A large reason Undertale is good is because games like that simply aren't made anymore and it's a bit of a breath of fresh air, albeit overrated to all hell. If it came out in that genre's hauday, it wouldn't receive any special treatment, and would probably be considered a silly western attempt at JRPG.
>>342592125
CT was still a short game by the standards of the time. Were you even alive in 1995?
>>342593804
Chrono trigger is still like a 30+ hour game if you rush through it with 8 endings on top of it.
Undertale can be beaten in 30 minutes.
>>342592334
>probably would be lumped in with the tons of other JRPG games, even though it's not a JRPG.
>would probably be considered a silly western attempt at JRPG.
So basically Secret of Evermore.
>>342593972
>CT
>30+ hours
>rushed
Oh god I'm laffin. CT is a sub-20 hour game rushed. 20-25 for average playthroughs depending on speed and amount of side content done. 30 of you're doing everything and taking your time.
But yeah it does have multiple story paths. Granted, so does UT, but only 3.
Undertale couldn't be made in 1995 because a lot of its humor simply didn't exist yet. The game's quite reliant on le animeme sunderay kawii xD
>>342591901
No because ct was done in assembly and understate was done in game maker which requires zero talent
>>342591901
It would fucking blow peoples minds that a game could have such amazingly fast paced gameplay on such limited hardware and at 60fps too.
>>342591901
Alphys wouldn't be the same character
>>342591901
No.
Technology couldn't do this much colors and music quality back then.
>Walking simulator vs JRPG
?
>>342594938
Undertale is locked to 30 fps.
>>342594394
>Tsundre didn't exist yet in 1995
Get a load of this faggot.
>>342591901
I'm pretty sure undertale would get a little less traction if 2015 wasn't such a fucking awful year for videogames
>>342596659
Fruity loops isn't music quality. I could see if there were actually live instruments in the soundtrack but there are a million better snes songs
I don't understand the hatred Undertale gets on this board.
>>342591901
If LISA: The Painful RPG came out against Chrono Trigger in 1995, would anything be different now?
>>342591901
nowadays we'd get "that kid" posts saying you get a secret ending for not killing anyone.
>>342592047
PCs were around in 1995 anon
>>342597834
/v/ hates everything.
If Undertale came out in 1995, it wouldn't be able to rip off Earthbound. So it would probably be some shitty early-style DQ clone instead and everyone would play CT and EB instead.
>>342594023
SoE was never a bad game, though. It just wasn't what people wanted, which was SD3.
>>342594394
Anime has been using the same tired tropes and cliches since the 70's.
>>342598509
>it would probably be some shitty early-style DQ clone
So Mother instead of Mother 2?
Sure, it would have been incredibly innovative.
You know, in 1995.
>>342591994
"timeless" and "memorable" are only a thing because they influenced your childhood. this is literally the only reason you remember them.
and besides, you're still talking about undertale, don't you?
>>342597902
LISA would've been banned.
>>342599340
People didn't want SD3. They wanted SOM2. 99% of people in the US at that time who played SoM didn't know what SD was.
Because SOE played off of the name and gameplay of SOM, and because it was designed by Square's US branch, Squaresoft, which was also the name Square sometimes used for their marketing for games developed in either country, many people thought it was in the same series as SOM, and lumped it in with jrpgs. The problem was more that they thought had gotten a new SOM game, but didn't like it as much, so it got a very lukewarm reception.
Later on it became viewed as a silly Western SOM that's not as good but still pretty good.
>>342594295
og god i'm laffin
you think ct is any shorter than ff6 or 4? cuz it's not any shorter, sorry.
>>342592334
>A large reason Undertale is good is because games like that simply aren't made anymore and it's a bit of a breath of fresh air,
>>342591901
It would have been drowned out by the magnitude of games that came out. Also it not "totally scrumpaducious dude" enough to be noticed in 95.
>>342594295
I'm sorry, what other games came out around then that are "so much longer"?
>>342600618
Everything made from japan. Seriously they print it on the freaking cover. "Over 40/50/60 hours of gameplay!"
>>342597834
It's garbage. The gameplay is baby's first bullet hell, the story is so generic and never gets fleshed out at all. The main selling point of the game is supposed to be it's characters, which are all tired tropes or cliches except maybe one or two character. The graphics are indie pixelshit. Musics good though.
>>342600784
LOL, okay yea believe some cover, You know chrono trigger has that on it right?
>>342600856
I think what was printed was "An endless adventure through time!". I don't really know anymore, my JRPG's experiences kinda melted in my brain into one memory lump.
Undertale couldn't have happened in 1995. It is a product of its time, much like Chrono Trigger. The whole point of Undertale is that it uses tropes and themes found in other JRPG and mixes them with its own ideas, mostly with today's Internet culture, which wasn't a thing in 1995.
>>342591901
I don't think the market for indie games just was there during 1995. Undertale's like 10 hours at the most if you do everything and it's like 10 bucks, which is entirely fine (Chrono Trigger released for like 70 bucks with all its content), but without digital distribution Undertale probably just couldn't have functionally released at a $10 price point.
>>342591901
I don't think a 6 hour """""""""RPG""""""""" would have been acceptable in 1995, especially considering how much cartridges were
