This game sucks
>>342576838
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>342576838
I agree OP
>original opinions formed by the person by themselves without any sort of bandwagoning
>>342577196
What do you mean anon?
I hate it when you get like 3 trophies in the first 30 minutes so you have a permanent reminder you ever played it.
OH WELL I'M THE TYPE OF GUY THAT LIKES TO FUCK AROUND
MY SON COULD BE IN DANGER BUT I ROAM FROM TOWN TO TOWN
PICKING UP BOTTLES TELEPHONES AND TRASH
THE CALL ME THE WANDERER
>>342577764
>Meanwhile at bethesda headquarters
"Hey todd, so since we have the trailer song be about being with alot of women we could make the romances not shit?"
"Nah it's fine lets make it as dumbed downed to the point that skyrim's marriage felt more like an actual romance then this!"
yeah so i just got to the power armor and killed the claw, it feels like shit, it feels like youre floating, vats is shit, shooting is shit, controls are shit, animations are shit, sound is shit, everything is shit
getting refund
>>342576838
Then talk about a game you like.
>>342577196
fuck off todd your game is shit
>>342577345
he's buttmad because his taste is complete trash
>>342577979
You know I didn't even mind getting the power armor and minigun at that point because they are usless at that point of the game anyway considering the absence of ammo and fusion cores. But I did mind facing a deathclaw and killing it so soon. Those are supposed to be endgame enemies and it felt like it was just thrown in there to make the player feel "cool" Instead of having any substance.
>>342576838
>"i posted it again guys am I cool yet"??
>>342578193
>endgame enemies
you are casual
>>342577764
>>342577929
>Promotional song is about wandering from town to town with a cowboy-like lifestyle
>Actual game has two non-player made towns and you have to be a moralfag (Minutemen/Railroad) or evil psychopath (Brotherhood/Institute)
Did they purposely pick a song that represented New Vegas on purpose?
>>342576838
At least with skyrim and Fallout 3 they were partially trying to stay true to some of their roots. But god dam they drop they ball on this shit, its like they saw mass effects chat system and where like "we need to add this in somehow no matter the cost!"
Hell even casuals I know that complain about nothing have some gripes about it. that says a fucking lot.
>>342578383
Okay endgame if you weren't experienced with the game. How I am now I can kill one at lvl one if I prepare right. But fallout 4 wanted everyone to feel like a pro without actually having them earn it.
>>342578432
>every non-bethesda fallout has you roam from town to town solving it's problems
>Game with only two actual towns is the one that has a song about roaming from town to town
There were barely any towns in fallout 3 aswell.
1.Megaton(which could be destroyed)
2.Paradise falls(which could be wiped out)
3.Rivet city(The only town that actually matters)
4.Tenpenny towers(Which was way out of the way)
>>342578447
>mass effects chat system
I hope they don't use this for another fallout game, and certainly not for Elder Scrolls. Could you imagine all those fantasy races having the same bland white guy voicing the player character?
>>342576838
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That's not a new vegas image though, you messed up. Restart thread
>>342578974
Is there a point to that webm or are you just posting it just cause?
>>342578974
what are you trying to prove with that webm?
>>342579272
>>342579360
BEHOLD
>>342578974
>actual dialogue choices
>actual dialogue in return
Why was NV so good
it's the map that makes it especially shit, can be traveled from one side to the other before hitting an invisible wall in about 10 minutes and it just a empty boring pos.
>>342579459
Because obsidian isn't retarded.
Its shit
Also, /fog/ is known for coming onto /v/ to discuss their game. They're the definition of doing it for free
>>342577979
Those problem's aren't exclusive to Fallout 4. Fallout 3 and NV both had worse controls, shooting and animations, but people can't praise those games enough.
>>342578660
5. Nofar
6. Little lamp light
7. Bigtown
They are unimportant but still about as big as prim
>>342579704
those games came out almost 10 years ago
>>342579704
>Fallout 3 and NV both had worse controls, shooting and animations, but people can't praise those games enough.
Because New Vegas had good quests, actual RPG mechanics and a story that wasn't completely retarded.
>>342579408
>It's just a game
>>342576838
FUCK YOU. You don't know shit about real gaming you millenial baby, Fallout 4 is amazing. Fucking COD kiddos, man. I swear to god have you ever played a real fucking FPS you little COD baby kiddo infant faggot? Jesus, you little teeny tiny kiddo play a real fucking classic shooter, have you faggot tiny tight COD kiddos heard of Halo? It's a real shooter series that birthed the genre you pampered teeny baby COD kiddo kid. I sware you infantile faggot teen kiddos haven't ever played something with an actual story or narritive like Halo 3, you sissy baby kids are used to pussyfooting around in kiddo's first fischer price shoot em up with it's perks and micro transaction ass rapes and skins, you child. Back in the day we noobtubed little tight baby kiddos like you in your moist teeny eunich faces you little cumslurping faggots. Have any of you tight tiny little COD baby kiddos seen an Xbox 360? or maybe an Xbox 1? Not the little castrado baby cum kiddo slut box pussy XBONE but a real Xbox? The green one, you little tiny teeny weeie little baby kiddos don't even remember that shit but real gamers like me do. I remember that badass green dashboard, and THE REAL MAN's not little tiny tight COD kiddo pussy faggot controler for you, but real man's DUKE controler, OG gamers like me remember playing that shit and wrecking you little baby CODfag kiddos like you, fucking tiny n00bs, bet you don't know what that even means cuz you aren't a real gamer you teeny baby COD kiddo. When I was 10 I was wrecking on sandtrap in Halo 3. Ever heard of it kiddo? nope cuz you're not an original gamer, you don't know what a real gamer is, guys like me were the first gamers, and we'd wreck you in your little tiny teeny weenie baby infant castrado eunich faggot COD kiddo asshole, faggot. Fallout 4 is how games are meant to be.
>>342579816
New Vegas controlled, looked, and played like shit for a game made in 2010 too, your point is?
>>342580064
and it got shit on for that. whats your point?
>>342580038
Who could be behind this post
>>342580205
>84%
>Shit on
wew
You didn't answer my question, bud. What were you trying to prove by saying the games came out almost 10 years ago? A 6 year old game had no excuse for playing as shit as NV did.
>>342579880
The intro to nv is pretty retarded desu.
You get shot in the head execution style, buried "alive" and dug up by a cowboy unicycle that could only move 3-4 clumps of dirt at a time and brought to an old out of practice vault doctor who's dealt with nothing worst than heat exhaustion and geeko bites and you some how survive because a mummy in a rundoen casino wanted you alive.
>>342580064
New Vegas is an RPG with mediocre shooting mechanics.
Fallout 4 is a shooter with medicore shooting mechanics.
>>342580446
Yeah everyone hated NV but after 4 came out people started pretending to like it to be special snowflakes.
>>342580558
this.
NV could be really enjoyable with the right mods. 4 is beyond saving because they've butchered every rpg aspect there is
>>342580609
Only Fallout 3 kiddies hated NV. Everyone who knew what a proper Fallout game is like recognized NV as the better game.
>>342580434
i was talking about fallout 3 you fucking retard
>>342580558
NV shooting mechanics are complete shit. At least shooting in Fallout 4 is somewhat fun.
The fact that NV is an RPG doesn't excuse the gameplay for being trash.
>>342580609
what the fuck are you taking about? NV was liked way more than 3, and anyone that disagreed got shat on. It hasn't changed since 4 released
>>342576838
We know
>>342580760
>those games came out almost 10 years ago
>those games
Sure you were, buddy. Pretty sure Fallout 3 is only one game.
>>342580782
NV's shooting mechanics are serviceable at worst. Are you accustomed to modern AAA titles that play themselves for you or something?
>>342580969
I've never played NV :^)
>>342579408
>guy cares enough about your games to notice such a minute detail
>instead of apologizing or complementing his knowledge of the lore you say 'lol it's just a game' and insult him
great PR
>>342581037
>>342580609
how much do you get paid to tell blatant lies? don't tell me you do this for free?
>>342581037
>>>out
>>342581037
Man i didnt know Bethesda had such good writing.
>overencumbered
Why do they still do this?
>>342580739
Well yeah they hated it.
Most people did.
Graphics and gameplay barely changed and 3 was several years old at the time.
Also it had the exact same glitchy problems as 3.
It was actually pretty hard to convince my friends to get it day one with me.
>>342580446
>>342580609
>>342581398
>my friends didn't like it
and?
>>342581560
Actually they liked it.
Not as much as i did tho.
I'v got 3 copies and the collector's edition at home.
>Settlements are fun to build, but boring otherwise, attacks are retarded as enemies spawn inside
>Game is too easy even on Survival/Very Hard, Overseer's Guardian and other weps are OP, drugs are OP as well
>Literally no reason to have companions, their pathfinding sucks, Lone Wanderer is the better choice
>Diamond City is actually really fucking small with few unique npcs, also very few settlements as big as it
>Every quest is kill X or kill X retrieve Y
>Dialogue was simplified for casuals and is shit
>Whole fucking game actually caters to retarded casuals who are taking a break from cayadooty
Those were my major gripes, hopefully the next offshoot Fallout is as good as NV
>>342581641
What's the point in having 3 copies though?
>>342581641
>3 copies
Why?
And refer to my original post. The only people who hated NV at release were Fo3 fans who wouldn't know a proper RPG if someone rammed it up their ass.
>>342576838
no shit
>>342578432
>evil psychopath
>Brotherhood
Synths are literally machines created to look and act like people. It's a shame that they made them so well they legitimately don't seem to want to die but if they're left unchecked only bad can come of it.
The Institute are straight up morons for making them in the first place. What purpose do they serve? Why do they have such an obsession with subterfuge? The Brotherhood are right. Those insane assholes need to be stomped out. Nuking 200 years worth of unhampered scientific progress might have been a bad idea but their base principles are sound.
>>342581781
>Xbox 360 on release
>Older brother stole it when he moved out
>Bought another one for 360
>Bought it later for pc
>Older brother gave me back my first copy.
So now I'v got 3
>>342581919
>relative takes something but actually gives it back
That called "borrowing" anon.
I always ask fallout general on vg if there are any mods that make fallout a good game, but they never respond.
>>342582735
Not without consent which was implied
>>342579549
Obsidian has an imagination.
>>342578710
Wouldn't surprise me, how else are they going to """"""""streamline"""""""' the gameplay so fucking 4 year olds like it
>>342583306
Maybe you should come to the obvious conclusion then, anon.
>>342581176
>>342578432
>game has two non-player made towns
1. Diamond City
2. Bunker Hill
3. Goodneighbor
4. Covenant
5. Sanctuary Hills
6. Crater of Atom
7. The Slog
Probably some others I'm not thinking of too. And even then, the point is that you can have dozens of cities filled with traders, named NPCs, etc. yourself.
>>342580434
The shooting mechanics weren't the fucking point, here's a thread that might be a little more your speed
>>342552501
>>342586726
You really should have posted sooner, because it's a good counter-argument. But the thread is pretty much dead now.
>>342586904
C'est la vie. Besides, when has a good counter argument ever really mattered here?
>todd, go home
>>342581398
Obsidian had less than a year to develop NV, the fact that they where able to deliver a game that good in the short amount of time that Bethesda gave Obsidian baffles me.
>>342586904
>>342586726
>>342587067
Todd and Pete, please stop posting. The only two things that can SOMEWHAT qualify as cities are Diamond City and Goodneighbor. Both have laughable amount of content, but at least they're not as bad as Covenant (including this piece of shit just screams bait) that literally has one quest, Bunker Hill that has 5 quests in it, 2 of which are radiant quest bullshit and 2 are stopping points for some other (terrible) quest lines.
>5. Sanctuary Hills
?
>6. Crater of Atom
>7. The Slog
no quests, no cool interesting npcs, nothing
>>342587067
>C'est la vie
That's definitely something a fan of a game as poorly written as fallout 4 would say
>>342587067
>>todd, go home
>>342587181
>Todd and Pete, please stop posting.
See? Called it.
Anyhow Captain Autismo, since you seem to have very clearly defined parameters for what qualifies as a town, tell me what they are and we'll see what fits.
Also, try to avoid shit like "no cool, interesting NPCs" as that's not really a metric, more of an opinion. Like we can quantify the fact that there are SEVERAL quests in Sanctuary Hills, and quite a few in the Slog and Crater.
>>342587181
Not those guys but the Slog had a good quest, cant remeber the name but the NPC that gave you the quest is Arlen Glass
HATE
NEWSPAPER
confidence man is the only decent quest prove me wrong
>>342587365
The newspaper is good!
>>342586890
>He doesn't care about Sonics birthday
Jokes on you I already have that thread open, little bitch boy.
If a lot of the game consists of you shooting enemies, it would be much more enjoyable to have actually good shooting mechanics.
>>342580901
Gee wizz lad, you're quite angry
I would just like to remind you that Fallout 3 was marginally lower quality in terms of gameplay, which NV improved almost every aspect on. For example; gunplay, crafting, the map, the dialogue and leveling. You also have to consider the fact that Obsidian used Fallout 3 assets and were severely restricted by both time and the Gamebyro engine.
>>342587290
>people who dislike Fallout 4 are uneducated retards
Speak for yourself, faggot.
>>342587468
See
>>342581037
Threads over, I was shitposting. Laughs were had. NV fans got mad. The end.
>>342587562
> I was shitposting
Ah the classic, well played ;^)
>>342587181
>no cool, interesting npcs
Confirmed for never playing the game. Sanctuary Hills has : Codsworth, Preston Garvey, Sean, Mama Murphy, Jun Long, Marcy Long, Sturges, Sheffield, Trashcan Carla, Anne Hargraves, Doc Anderson, Ron Staples, Smiling Larry, the Scribe, Vault Tec Rep. And has the quests War Never Changes, Out of Time, When Freedom Calls, Sanctuary and The Molecular Level.
>>342583306
Nigga, there are no mods that can salvage FO4 at its current state.
I tried that myself, i really REALLY wanted FO4 to be good, but not even a fuck ton of mods can fix it.
>>342587671
I do fully intend to play NV sometime in the future though.
>>342587678
Not to mention The Slog is actually pretty cool too. I like the lore behind it. When Mayor McDonough banished all the ghouls, half of them refused to follow Hancock into the degenerate crime-ridden Goodneighbor and instead set up a ghoul utopia at the Slog underneath Wiseman. Every time I get a ghoul settler in another camp, I send them to the Slog. And the NPCs there are great too. Not just Arlen and his quest like >>342587338
said, but Dierdre, Jones, Holly, etc. too. And it's the only place to produce Tarberries.
>>342577196
I played Fallout 4 for an hour the other day and then went to take a shit.
I had more fun taking a shit
>>342587904
Tarberries are the shit. The Slog is the only place where you can produce Berry Mentats as a result.
>finish quest
>pop berry mentats
>turn quest in for massive XP bonus
>>342587829
I would recommend it, but I'm not gonna threaten to kill you if you've never played it like some of /v/ does
>>342587181
What's wrong with the Crater of Atom? It has seven named NPCs which makes it bigger than Goodsprings not including nameless nobodies (Sunny, Trudy, Pete, Doc, Victor) and that includes their own merchant Brother Ogden. Also, they have custom dialogue for later expansions predicated on you siding with the Children of Atom in Far Harbour. AND Isolde is pretty sweet too. Somehow just being near her removes your radiation. I don't get the how or why of it (like does her piety to Atom actually do something, or...?) but it's interesting to think about. The whole town is just really neat. Right in the middle of the Glowing Sea at ground zero for the nuke.
>that one random encounter that was actually kind of spooky
F4 was a fucking massive disappointment. Why throw in random things that are actually interesting just to ignore them for fucking settlement radiant quests?
>>342576838
I don't know what you're talking about. I spent over 200 hours in the past 2 weeks playing this. I'm still not bored yet.
>>342588920
Honest question, what keeps you playing it?
>Obsidrone gets completely btfo
>Only response is "Todd"
>>342576838
All games in the big franchises of Bethesda, is a GOTY game. FO4 is no exception. No other games in the same category can even come close to the award winning franchises of Bethesda.
This is proven true by no other than it's dynamic open game-world which is robust, detailed and filled with various content and a variety of tasks you can undertake. The stories included in their games adds up to hundreds of hours.
We can add to this the technological marvels that make this possible which show up in the hundreds/thousands of quests, radiant quests, the fully dynamic engine capable of adding objects in real-time, the ability for NPCs to respond to these added objects in real-time. Plus their increadible simulation which runs in the background. All weapons being treated like weapons (or for that matter all usable items) and NPCs can treat them as such and they can inspect their stats. Let's add even more; NPCs can loot from the ground, from NPCs and various containers which is possible by having a unified container based interface. This truly shows the revolutionary and ahead-of-their-time thinking done by Bethesda. We could also speak about their sophisticated ownership system which allows for an NPC to determine who owns an object or the fact that inspecting a weapon'S stat the NPC can decide on which weapon to use in which situation or even their incredible AI package system which allows for truely unique behavior and numerous mods show how there is literally no limit to it.
All in all their Creation Engine is one of the most capable engine of modern gaming with an incredible modding community which is possible due to the extraordinary features presented above.
Despite this I too feel that FO4 is in some ways weaker then it's great predecessors, I also believe this can be attributed to the never ending innovation (see above) done by Bethesda, Todd Howard and their incredible engineers, but it is compensated by the incredible new features FO4 brings.
>>342589267
You're fucking retarded, you need to get a life. What are you? 16? So you spend all your time coming to a well developed gaming community to be a troll and try to be funny when you're just a punk little kid, go outside and make friends, join a basketball team, run for president. Stop wasting your life trying to be a funny troll on a loving community that has done no wrong to you asshole.
Are you actually fucking retarded?
Like, holy shit, are you literally, not just using that word for shits, LITERALLY, a fucking actual autist?
Do your parents love you?
Are you beaten daily?
Did Uncle Pete rape you at age 11?
You are mentally handicapped, and your opinion is fucking stupid. I actually had to take time out of my day to read this stupid fucking post.
I too, feel legitimately handicapped reading this poorly structured response. Like, shit, you are fucking so dumb, your parents probably regret having such a fucking failure of a chlid.
You need to kill yourself, the world cannot cope with someone of your stupidity.
I hate you, and you should hate you.
Now fuck off.
>>342589267
>>342589318
>not even a minute apart
anon.
>>342589318
This doesn't have to do anything with my points.
I even left out the incredibly beautiful new renderer made by such a small studio as Bethesda.
Have you looked at Unreal, Cryengine, Frostbite? They don't even come close.
The extraordinary thing Bethesda done is obvious to anyone who isn't a nerd from the 80's.
Anyway nice pasta.
>>342589372
I'm not him, he is posting some shitty pasta. My points are real.
>>342589372
I'm replying to pasta with pasta, get a brain senpai.
>>342589468
>>342589479
You two should fuck.
>>342589513Only if you're in between.
>>342589479
It's not a pasta, shithead. I wrote it and btw do you have a real counterargument? It's all true though, go back to your shitty P&P rpg.
>>342581176
I absolutely despise how Bethesda keeps dealing with speech checks. It was like that in FO3, and they did it again for FO4. It's always:
>I'm going to do X!
>"Please reconsider."
>You're right, what am I doing?!
New Vegas had that too at some places, but most of the time it actually made sense to do the speech checks. 3 and 4 had these paper-thin persuasion arguments that NO ONE would actually buckle under.
>>342581176
>go with "sarcastic" every chance I get
>MC becomes increasingly more unbalanced and deranged
it's delightful. I'm assuming Todd figured we would take this piece of art seriously and didn't anticipate people fucking around the entire game,.
>>342576838
No, it is not.
I have 150h in it, currently downloading the DLC, will play for another 150h.
I'm sorry you have autism and can't enjoy good games.
>>342586585
This makes zero sense.
>>342589585
>P&P
>shitty
oh lawl, if you have asperges i guess they are shitty since they require interaction with other human beings.
And for other points you must be retarded my mate to think anything of that applies to FO4, especially the NPC reacting to your shit in any other way of form than attacking you.
4/10 you fished a few replies from me.
>>342589634
>Eden: I'm going to kill everyone
>LW: No, blow yourself up instead.
>Eden: Okay.
>>342589757
Hello Todd, when's the new elder scrolls coming?
>>342589801
The story is shit and the gameplay is from the last games and the ending is predictable and boring.
I wished the game would get more linear but its physically impossible.
(I'm not the guy you were talking to BTW just wanted to lay a few points)
>>342589801
>especially the NPC reacting to your shit in any other way of form than attacking you.
It is possible with a proper ai package. Base game was modest on that front, but with mods the limit is the sky. From an engine standpoint, all of those apply though.
I joined the Brotherhood and helped freedom nigger up past the castle part where he starts sending me to multiple settlements and shit
Am I doing it right cause I don't know what the fuck is going on
>>342589982
Next year, it'll be even better than Oblivion and Skyrim.
>>342591150
How's that possible when it has less content and less passion put in it?
It will be basically a money cow Todd, how many DLCs are planned already?
