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anyone here plays hearts of iron iv? i'm telling you it's
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anyone here plays hearts of iron iv?
i'm telling you it's the shit, go play it handsome stranger
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>>342490824
Yes, I once conquered the world with my Fascist Ireland. It was fun.

And by world, I'm referring to North Ireland. Then the Allies crushed me.
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>>342490927
i honestly think that everyone picks fascist countries or change them into fascist for some reason
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>>342490824
Go Belgium!
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>>342491375
Well it makes sense since you're less restricted that way.

Democracies just aren't as fun to play
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>>342491375
>no restrictions in changing economy setup
>better bonuses than communism
i dont see any reason to be anything but facist
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>Play as China
>go fascist, take the military youth & militarism foci
>get 30mil manpower without changing conscription laws
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Which is better, HoI3 or HoI4?
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>>342494784
does that mod also change the portraits for ministers and generals?
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>>342494784
HoI3 right now is much better, though it was unplayable when it launched
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>>342494784
If you are looking for WW2 simulator, HoI3.
If you are looking for sandbox game set in WW2, HoI4.
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You would think Paradox would improve the AI with every new installment, but that's not the case.
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>>342494784
>Saunders as US of A

wew lad
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>>342490824
i literally can't stop playing it
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>Take all my forces and attack denmark
>10 soldiers vs 15
>They just keep running at the danes shooting
>Nothing happens
>My 15 loses against their 10
>fun game
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>>342495795
>crossing a river/strait more then likely
>hills
>your army comp is shit

Your losing is a casual as balls game.
>bigger is always betterer
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>>342494784
>that Germany flag

Why are Europeans so afraid of Swastika?
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>>342496604
It's illegal to display them in Germany and certain other European nations.
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>>342496604
Wait for mo... ah right, the'll just pull them off from workshop.

fucking paracucks
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>>342497578
If it's anything like the other games you can just drag and drop a picture to change the flag
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>>342497236
What about Hitler? Do they censored Hitler too?
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>>342490824
hi johan
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>>342498219
in Germany yes.
He literally doesnt have a face in the german version from what I've seen
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>>342498219
yes
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>>342498219
Yes
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What France did in my game as Germany.
>Declares war on neighbor.
>Brings troops back from Maginot line.
>Germany takes forts.
>Then begins Blitzkrieg through southern France.

Really, the AI isn't too smart in this game.
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>>342498562
>black out his face
>still call him Adolf Hitler
For what purpose?
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>>342498987
>allied forces non-stop dropping on the shores of normandy and getting their entire divisions killed of instantly
Uk is over 1m at deaths just from that alone

No shit it's bad m8, its a paradox game that barely got released, what did you expect?
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>>342499373
Because people get triggerd just by looking at his face.
>M-Muh feelings
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>>342498987
>AI Germany decides to launch the invasion of the low countries during the winter of 1939
>Whatever, fine
>But instead of invading through the low countries, they just attack the Maginot line while keeping the Belgians tied down without advancing
>This continues till summer 1940
>By this time the British have taken half of Italy and neither the Italian Navy nor the German Army give a fuck
>Germans bleed huge amounts of manpower because they were insistent of pushing through the French-German border instead of the French-Belgian one
The AI is fucking trash
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>>342498562
>>342498584
Is Hitler actually Nyarlahothep in this game as well?
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>>342498562
le mystery man
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>>342499576
I wonder, can you get arrested for having a Charlie Chaplin moustache in Germany?
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>>342499373
My German friend said that displaying pictures of the more """"controversial""""" ww2 figures in toys is banned, and video games are classified as toys there. I don't know if he pulled it out of his ass or not.
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>>342498562
Is it breaking German censorship laws to replace the normal Hitler pic with this one >>342498584?
I honestly wouldn't mind playing a game as evil shadow Hitler.
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>>342495235
They did improve it. AI in HoI3 and HoI2 is absolute trash. AI in HoI4 is still trash, but it's slightly improved trash.
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>>342499584
I've heard it's because the game has been designed around a multiplayer focus

I wonder if they'll ever improve it with the 30+ DLCs that'll be released.
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>>342499967
I've heard the same thing here but never anything definitive.
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>>342499967
He didn't, Germany is a totalitarian police state so you better fucking watch what you show if you don't want to be banned from selling your products there.
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>>342499932
Honestly, I dont think so. I've seen a lot of pictures with people that have that kind of moustasches, but there again, Im not from Germany.

>>342499985
>shadow Hitler
Holy shit I'm modding that right away
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>>342495375
which country is the most fun?
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>>342500393
>Im not from Germany
You don't have to mod shit, shadow hitler is only for germany
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>>342500724
B-But shadow Hitler looks nice...
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>>342498584
>Austrian with Reich
>"I am growing stronger"
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>>342500930
i thought you wanted it to be modded out, my bad.
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>>342499985
It shouldn't be an issue. As far as I know it's only focused on products that are sold, what you do in the privacy of your own home with your videogames shouldn't be a big deal.
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i'm trying hoi3 for the first time but i don't actually know how to play

started as yugoslavia, traded stuff to balance the books, sent spies to italy because fuck those guys, greece and every country around me has infantry at our borders but i dunno if i should worry. i don't know if i'm supposed to prepare for war and start building up now, i guess peacetime is just a gimmick in hoi and you're supposed to all gear up for war in the early game, regardless?
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What country is good for learning the game?

Any advice is welcome.
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>>342500579
Germany of course. AI is weak though, I finished Barbarossa in six months starting the invasion in the dead of winter (didn't even notice at first.)

After you take over Russia the game becomes really easy, once you formally dismantle the Soviet Union, all the partisan problems magically go away and you don't have to keep ANY soldiers in Russia, makes zero sense.

The early and mid game is pretty fun though, I overall enjoyed it. Just waiting for some patches and BLACKICE/Kaiserreich to release.
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>>342490824

it's shit* FTFY
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>>342502123
Canada, Brazil or Sweden are decent starters, or so I've heard
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>>342502123
USA or Nazi Germany. Both are massive countries with lots of room to expand. You can easily make some mistakes without it necessarily destroying your progress.

USA has the Great Depression modifier though, meaning less focus on things that use PP and more so on assigning factories, etc.

Nazi Germany has a modifier because of Hitler to get more PP, so more research/ diplomacy options.

Soviet Union is also doable, but I'd say it's mid-tier. France and Japan are easy, but you got to know how the mechanics works or you'll fall apart.

So yeah, go for USA or Germany.
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>>342502123
Germany.

Go heavy into tanks, Industry, and Infantry stuff. Air Force is a must or the RAF will literally fuck your shit daily. Focus on subs for your navy and do convoy raiding, don't bother with anything else at first playthrough, but if you really want to it's battleships and destroyers all day and you can beat the RN with a smaller, but more advanced navy if you really want to. Counterespionage, and I recommend supporting your party in America to keep them Neutral or get them Axis. Other than that, go ham on it. Germany is a easy way to start and is very forgiving.

HoI 3 is right now a better game, but a little more obtuse.
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>>342502095
There's a couple good tutorials on youtube, the HoI wiki is also pretty good. Yugoslavia is not a great start if you're still learning the game. You need to use the time before the war to build up your industry as well as your military. If you're not prepared for the war, especially as a nation like Yugoslavia, your enemies will roll over you. Germany, Italy and the USSR all see Yugoslavia as an easy target.
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I downloaded but it was too hard.

Any tips to combat my tism?
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>>342490824
>go play it handsome stranger

Oh Anon...
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>>342490824
>Also, don't forget to buy all of the amazing dlc as soon as it comes out!
>t. Johan Andersson
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>>342495226
>If you are looking for SANDBOX GAME set in WW2, HoI4.

What?
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>>342502663
The problem with Soviet Union is they start with so many divisions that it can take hours to optimize your OOB.
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>>342502942
HoI4 is far less railroad-y than 3
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>>342502942
I meant that in HoI3, you basically have to follow the WW2 scenario or the game falls apart, but the gameplay itself is a bit more in-depth and complex in some area.

In HoI4, you can play it completely different from history, like in other Paradox titles, and the AI will still somehow adapt.
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>>342490824
I ended up booting up HoI 2 for the first time when I heard this was released
My first playthrough I played as Argentina, and made it my goal to prove to the world I was white by uniting all of south america under my banner.
Sadly, the US stomped my shit in after I got a bit too invasion happy.
My second go around, I schmoozed my way into the allies, which caused the UK to shower me in technology and willingly give the falkland islands back, and caused the US to actually aid me in invading Brazil.
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>>342503361
Then I did a Germany game afterwards because a friend told me that it was more of a "campaign", which was fun.
The RNG really favored the Axis though, both Italy and Japan preformed amazingly, with Italy winning north Africa singlehandedly and kicking France, Belgium, and the UK out of Africa, and then repulsing a US landing in western Africa. Japan also beat the shit out of the US navy somehow, and went on to conquer Australia. Here's the final map for that game, quite pleased with how it turned out.
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>>342490824
So as someone who's a huge fan of CK2 but never played HoI how blobby is this? If I pick Finland can I just go and conquer the entire Soviet Russia or is it more realistic in what you can do? What should I expect?

One of CK2's major downsides is how fairly easily you can build a huge empire from very shitty beginnings.
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>>342503270
>>342503358

Thanks Anons , i think HoI4 sounds more fun than HoI3 but i stay with Victoria 2
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>>342504028
Finland will definitely not conquer the soviet union.
Finland doesn't have good enough research teams to out-tech the USSR, nor do they have the industrial capacity to out produce the USSR. They could win a defensive war, but there's no way they could press inland without annexing most of europe to support their war machine.
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>>342503358
> and the AI will still somehow adapt.
in my last game Japan took over all of the USA because the USA had all of its regiments in sjaeland Denmark surrounded by Germany.

IF they patch the ai to be less retarded it will become more railroady with the focus system.

Great powers very rarely switch to a different ideology that could completely fuck with the way the war turns out.
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>>342490824
>i'm telling you it's shit
Fixed.
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>>342504028
>If I pick Finland can I just go and conquer the entire Soviet Russia or is it more realistic in what you can do? What should I expect?
Yes, you can start as just about anyone and still win. AI is really bad with their division design, so as long as you spam infantry+artillery and keep research up to date, you are good to go.

>One of CK2's major downsides is how fairly easily you can build a huge empire from very shitty beginnings.
It's even easier in HoI4.

>>342504062
Well, have fun with your liquor enterprise.
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Can you world conquer these games without playing as the big countries?

Im always forced to rely on allies and their industries to have a chance if Im playing a regional or minor power,also going neutral is discarded as well because I need good trades to survive.
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I can't believe I actually took the time to learn to play HoI3 in preparation for this fucking turd. Almost as bad as Stellaris.
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>>342504371
If Finland takes over all of Scandinavia and waits for Germany and Japan to declare war on the Soviets the Finnish could rush the decent provinces on their border in order to fuel their production.
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>>342504608
Regional domination is possible provided you aren't in one of the main theatres, which really only leaves south america/the middle east as your options.
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>>342504749
Maybe, but in HoI2 at least occupied provinces provided fuck all for industrial production, and it had to be rebuilt following battles happening in that province, which took time.
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>>342504917
I think he was talking about HoI4 in which case only manpower is severely gimped in occupied/non-core provinces from what I could see.
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>>342504371
>>342504539
Getting conflicted info here.

Well I guess I'll see if it gets a decent summer sale and grab it if it does.
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>>342503843
Holy fuck.
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>>342505472
HoI4 is ridiculously easy and stupid. You can definitely conquer pretty much everything with just a moderately sized country thanks to the god-awful combat AI. Your enemy will put half of its units defending peaceful borders and won't even bother moving the other half away once you do you do a basic 3-province encirclement.

>Well I guess I'll see if it gets a decent summer sale and grab it if it does.
Please don't give Paradox your money. Just pirate it.
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>>342505472
Unless you pick a really minor nation, you can't loose.

The AI is pretty bad. They need to do some work before I would suggest it to anyone.
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>>342491375
I mean it's either go that, Communist which has shitty bonuses and an even shittier Main guy at it's helm, or Democracy which has awful restrictions and you have to wait for a war and play defensively for the most part.
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It took me six or seven attempts to break Germany's AI and I didn't even get the bear General flavor text.
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>>342506105
>Please don't give Paradox your money
>aaaah Paradox aren't exclusively making games that I specifically like as much as their previous ones please don't buy their games aaaaah
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>>342506927
Paradox have turned into DLC Jews now. Don't give your hard-earned shekels to DLC Jews.

...and yes, they're now releasing simplistic games for dummies because that's more profitable. That's part of it too.
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>>342507073
Literally mindbroken by /gsg/ memes, I feel bad for you.
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>>342507314
It's not "memes" if it's true.
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>>342490824
I already played Hearts of Iron II dozens of hours.
I have absolutely no reason or motivation to play any of the Paradox grand strategy games released since then.
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>>342507314
what exactly was wrong with what he said?
>Stellaris simplistic
>HoI4 more simplistic then HoI3
>DLC Jews
>sell what should be baseline features as dlc
>sell dlc that hardly works
>force people to use dlc that slows your game down (Rajas of India)
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>>342507314
He's right. The AI is worse because of the battle planner and it's very easy in favor of the player. Not to mention that the tech trees could use a little more depth, espionage should be in the game, and the national focuses run out way too quickly.

It's like pissing in my coffee mug. It has the potential to be better, but until they fix it people shouldn't support them. It's honestly got the potential to be a much better game than any previous HoI, but it just isn't there yet.
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so whats a good country to play in kaiserreich? I've already done canada, national and commune france, Imperial Russia and Greece. I am looking for a country that has decent tech-teams that can somewhat keep tech pace with the big boys, but is not forced to go to war like them.
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>>342507707
>>342507675
I'm not arguing that the game isn't shit, I haven't played it, but trying to make other people pirate a Grand Strategy instead of buying it because you didn't like it is cancerous

Just demo/pirate to see if you like it and then make up your own mind. The screaming of the word "jews" again and again just makes you seem hysterical and a faggot.
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>>342506927
>>342507314
I've never even been a fan of Hearts of Iron games, I don't want autistic complexity for complexity's sake. Just give us the FEELING we're running real countries and not some cartoonish simplifications. Very basic things, like how every commodity is produced, traded and stockpiled instead of a retarded "oil-o-meter" which gives you a slight production penalty if it goes into the negative.
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You sound like a tryhard redditard trying to rationalize the fact he's a consumerist whore.

>>342508303
>cancerous
What the fuck does this word even MEAN to you?
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>>342508303
If the game is shit, why would you have someone waste money on it?
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>>342508539
What did Johan do to you to make you this irretrievably butthurt? I don't think anything can be done for your ruptured anus.

I'm just saying people should try it themselves instead of believing what some crying autist says. A pretty good definition of cancerous would be all your posts in this thread.
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>>342508303
It doesn't matter how he worded it, the pure and simple fact is that the game is not very good. Buying it just tells Paradox that you're okay with it being the way it is.

Hopefully they fix it's core problems in a patch, and later DLC expands on the things that need work. Like the Naval and Air stuff, and espionage. Also I want HQ's to come back, but that's preference.
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>play as denmark to get Scandinavia faction achivement
>dedicate half my industry to building AA and forts on tiny chokepoint
>get finland to be democracy
>get the national spirits to create a faction
>creating faction bugs out, doesnt allow me to do, asking me to get the national spirit I already have

>germany declares war
>they cant get past my 6 divisions dug in at border
>due to negative modifiers, any german division gets only 1 attack
>they throw their soldiers in hundreds of thousands into the grinder
>all my troops are elite
>I barely lose 1k and they pass 1 million mark

I stopped playing it after a while since it was simply shuffling my troops at border
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>>342508732
>reading comprehension
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>>342508918
>maymay arrows
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>>342502123

Practice hungary, you can learn a lot from it.
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>>342508792
That's why I said it's worth trying before you buy, maybe that first anon is a casual and prefers GS like this. Everyone else isn't your personal army for your own design decision crusades.
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>>342508782
>What did Johan do to you to make you this irretrievably butthurt?
Released unfinished game, dumbed down pre-existing series, released mountains of overpriced shovelware DLC. In short, turned Jewish.

>I'm just saying people should try it themselves instead of believing what some crying autist says
Why should they waste money to try it? Better for them to pirate it and see for themselves that the game is shit.

>A pretty good definition of cancerous would be all your posts in this thread.
LE EPIK! Well said, /b/rother! :D
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>>342490824

>giving money to SJW faggot game companies

lol no
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>>342508810
The ai very rarely tries to paratroop and naval land unless it is necessary(if your on a island or another continent) making defending hilariously easy.

I've only been para-trooped once and that took them 2 years into the war to decide to do it.
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who are making real GSG in this day and age if its not paradox games?
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>>342509224
>Why should they waste money to try it? Better for them to pirate it and see for themselves that the game is shit.

Oh so you are just retarded then. That is exactly what I said.
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>>342509390
Paradox are still making real GSG, just not up to the same standards as their "golden era". Some whiny babbies think they should be boycotted for this.
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>>342509331
well I had everything figured out
every port was manned and built a port on border in case they do land on non port are and block the supply chain

they did no such thing
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>>342509424
No it wasn't. You just backpedaled to that position after you realize what a huge retard you sound like. You just went apeshit the moment someone said not to buy HoI4 and pirate it instead.

>>342509535
It's not about "boycotting", it's about not purchasing inferior products.
Basic fucking capitalism.
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>>342509390
There are a few modern ones that literally go so far as to border on the simulations that governments pay think tanks to play. Other than that, not really any historical ones.
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>>342509331
>The ai very rarely tries to paratroop and naval land
>and naval land
What? UK and USA keep doing naval invasions all over the place right from the start of the war.
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>Paradox are still making real GSG
Stellaris is literally Civilization-tier
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>>342509802

>Basic fucking capitalism.

And Stellaris and HoI4 shows they're quite successful.

Basic fucking capitalism indeed.
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>>342510046
Don't put all your divisions across the world under the same theater HQ.
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>>342509914
>unless it is necessary(if your on a island or another continent)
you do realize the UK and USA are on an island and on another continent right?
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>>342510046
Why would you do this?
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>>342510120
Of course they are successful, pandering to the lowest common denominator often works.


By the way, why are you

typing

like

this?
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>>342510205
well how the fuck could i know that
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>>342510302
He's not typing like that at all. Even going back the reply chain.
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>>342510498
Are you asking how the fuck you could know that the UK is an island or the US is on another continent? Are you from Haiti or Afghanistan or something?
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>>342510046
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>>342490824
Fuck that game, the only advantage it has over Hearts of Iron 3 is the production system

The battleplan AI is retarded and will nonsensically swap around your divisions resetting your organization in the process. Enemy AI is too passive and won't exploit weak points in your line nor stop your encirclements. They will also frequently conduct Naval invasions which is often just a mass suicide of their divisions
The simplified tech tree makes it too easy for minors to keep up with majors
The war conference system always results in the ugliest misshapen maps
OOB was replaced with a barebones system that allows you to have literally all of your divisions commanded by the same field marshal.
Logistics are now arcade-level easy, apparently all tanks come with a lifetime supply of fuel after being produced

I'll stick to my liquor simulators
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>>342502942
4 plays more like EU IV than HoI III.

A lot of the complexities have been left out (like order of battle), but they really reworked industry, so in a year or so when they release new DLC, it might be good.

It's a lot better at making random things happen. In this game I saw the Allies declare war over the Sudetenland, Nationalist Spain, Venezuela, and Peru join the Axis, Spain conquer France, and Italy/Northern Germany invaded/lost by the British (and Swedes/Dutch) several times.

I dunno, every Paradox game is trash on release. They're only great after a few years of player feedback and DLC to flesh out the lacking parts of the game. My only real gripe is the lack of OoB; you have generals and field marshals, and that's it.
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>>342504028
There's a tremendous stacking penalty, so throwing doom stacks is the worst possible thing you can do.
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>>342511321
why can't they make the combat and ordering mechanics from hoi2/darkest hour but updated

then revamp the hoi2 map into 3d

then try some new things with diplo, tech, espionage etc

instead they went with bad dwarf fortress way with hoi3 where you either toil doing every single order and hierarchy yourself or tell ai to fuck everything up

or they go hoi4 way and simplify everything plus add the shitty ai into the fray
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>>342511930
>>342511617
also holy fuck the map gore is the worst of all game and I've seen voltaires nightmare
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>>342512056
I don't think it beats 50 years into Old Gods CK2 Start, that shit is eye rending.
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>>342512056
Nah, in terms of map gore, nothing beats CK2, although this one is justified by how feudalism works.

Very close runner-up is EU3, I somehow miss Bohemian snakes.
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>>342510046
Those aren't finalized borders, they're just conquered territory.
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>>342512056
It's not bad when you realize it's just temporary until you get to the peace conference and finalize everything.

I'm going to be honest, unless the land is rife with resources or something I really want to eventually become part of my new nation, I just hand it off.
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>>342512443
pleb tier.
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hows the arkham knight game?
enjoyed the hell out of asylum and city
is arkham knight + DLC worth 30 bucks?
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>>342490824
Dropped this piece of shit as soon as I realised how useless Nukes were in this game.

You can nuke NYC or London and it will be as if nothing happened. Economy stays the same, enemy manpower stays the same. Its garbage.
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>>342513474
Nukes mostly hit national unity, so if you need those few more victory points, you can just drop a nuke instead and have a nation capitulate.
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>>342513690
How big is the national unity hit? I've never used them

Is it possible to get Japan to capitulate historically by sinking their navy, island hopping, and dropping a couple of nukes?
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>>342513690
>>342514310
On the steam discussions (i know) someone nuked the UK 23 times and they still didn't capitulate.
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>>342513690
Right, but that's bullshit. You can nuke a country and have their national unity increase by some fucking logic. National unity means fuck all anyway, since they can still have their army, their manpower, zero casualties or war weariness from bombing the fuck out of their country...The whole thing is indefensible shit.

Nukes aren't just the cherry on top- the only reason they were historically in WWII is because of the timing of when they were ready. You should be able to legitimately destroy the world with nukes.
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>>342490824
I'll get it on a sale.
This way I get a polished version and it will be much cheaper with the inevitable DLC.
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Pretty much the only reason to go commie is if you're Poland and want to survive 1939
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>>342502123
I used Argentina.
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>>342494784
Probably 4.
3 was very railroaded, the battle AI probably wasn't much better (if at all) and 1 hour of redoing OOB at the start of each campaign was driving me insane.
Has probably much better combat and tactics though.
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>>342515841
The AI is so shit that as Poland you can beat both Germany and Soviet Union at the same time fighting two front war.
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>>342502123
Any country that's not directly involved in WW2.
You can conquer the whole balkans as Greece for example and nobody will give a fuck.
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>>342502123
Turkey

you pretty much border every faction and do "everything"
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>>342510009
No shit, it's a 4X with 4X mechanics based entirely on other 4Xs
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How's Asimov for Stellaris?
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>>342511617
It plays nothing like EU4 fucktard. Have you ever even played EU4? How the fuck do you associate these games which are nothing alike?

It plays more like HoI2 than it does HoI3, if anything.
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>>342490824 Thanks for calling me handsome, but I don't have a computer that can run it. I hope you enjoy the game, though. Have a great evening.
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Me and my friend has stayed up way too late way too many times with this game. It's flawed as fuck (like every paradox game at release) however it is so much fun I can easily forgive them and their Jewish practices.
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>>342491375
It's because they can declare war earlier. Democracies aren't very good because the game is about war and conquest.
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>>342520160
Democracies are fine, Germany will puff tension to 100% and you can go around annexing them and their allies.
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>>342500579
Germany is supposedly the easiest country.
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>>342495795
You would lose in real life as well moron, start using your brain or read idiot's guide to warfare (Sun Tzu's the art of war)
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>>342490824
Isn't it pretty hard to get into?
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>>342490824
They dumbed Hearts of Iron down for casuals. FUCK
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I don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm thinking about getting a new strategy game now that they're on sale.

Either EUIV or CK2.

I'm kind of new to strategy games but really enjoyed Stellaris until I got a victory, now I want something else.

If CK2 is it worth the entire thing for $43 or should I just pirate the DLC?
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what DLC's if any are worth getting for HoI 3 while its on sale
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My laptop has a 1.6GHz dual core processor and 4GB of RAM. Can I handle this game on low as fuck settings?
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>>342522102
Victoria 2.
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>>342520517
HoI4? Not at all. It's all been dumbed down and "streamlined" to appeal to even the most braindead of Civ players.
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>>342522102
CK2, it is better than EUIV in every conceivable way.

Pirate the DLC or get it on offer though
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Anyone?
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>>342522759
Don't listen to this retard, Victoria 2 is a broken, bad game. Get EUIV with the expansion pacts first, then CK2 with it's expansion pacts.
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>>342490824
>Rexist Belgium
>Doesn't even have the Rexist flag

I want Johan to die.
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>>342522102
How old are you?

To answer your question: both are stupidly easy and almost play themselves. If you enjoyed the shitfest which was Stellaris you'll love both.
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>>342523196
Ehhh, you should be fine.
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>>342522439
Play HoI3 instead.

>>342523319
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>>342523427

I'm 27, and thanks!
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>>342522102
Buy base CK2 and then pirate the DLC. Owning the base game allows you to access the mod subforums on the Paradox site so you can get access to their sweet, sweet mods.
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>>342523030
>dumbed down and "streamlined" to appeal to even the most braindead of Civ players
Well shit guess I'm in
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>>342522102
>>342523319
Don't listen to this retard. He's just a CK2 pleb who got in on the action when the Game of Thrones mod came out. He tried to get into the more serious Paradox games but the non-"friendly" UI and the fact he suddenly actually had to actually learn how too play were too hard on his poor little brain. Now he goes around trying to convince people that no you guise, EU4 is a completely realistic and challenging gameplay experience! I'm totally not a retard for busting out 150$ on its shitty overpriced and broken DLC!
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>>342490824
I even regret to have pirated it.
It's in beta stage, dumbed down, the AI is braindead and complex like a facebook game.

Hows weather in stockholm?
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>>342523030
Your butthurt is so acute it's actually getting my dick hard, not even joking
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>>342524030
Someone's a salty bitch. Is it because Vicy 3 will never be made, because the last 2 were so shit?
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>>342524325
I didnt know it was possible but the AI manages to be even worse than other paradox games.
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>>342524490
>I'll post that one le silly "TRIGGERED" image I found on reddit :P
who am I quoting?
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>>342524652
Did you already buy the AI of WW2 DLC?
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>Create Ultimate division
>10 mot 6 mot rocket arty and 1 light tank
>engineers,recon,hospital,logistics and signal
>40 width

I always use this and just rush the enemy with my 10 km/h cant be stopped by anything except heavy armored division and the AI never goes heavy with the tanks
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>>342526406
This game is just seal clubbing the ai.
Switch to an Ai major an look their divison design.
Normally they build 4*Inf and one support recon.

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