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Nerf this faggot and the game is literally perfectly balanced
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Nerf this faggot and the game is literally perfectly balanced
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>nerf the most useless character in the game

for what purpose?
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>literally perfectly balanced

Do you know what balanced means in the context of video game design? I don't think you do.
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>>342489145
>Get stomped by a good Hanzo
>Cry about it on /v/

Good job, anon.
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He isn't good, it's just frustrating because he spams arrows and gets an occasional lucky critical that one shots you when he never even saw you
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>>342489395
>good hanzo
>sit In the back and spam arrows and press q every 30 seconds
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>bastion, zenyatta and d.va are literally a waste of space
>nerf the 2nd best sniper and the game is perfectly balanced

What?
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>>342489145
>shoot in a general direction
>get kills

Fuck you too, junkrat.
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even good hanzos are generally useless to a team. He does nothing a widow dosnt do better. He is completely useless up close (no, your shitty scatter arrow is rng kills, and on cool down).

In a capture based game with no deathmatch, even the 'good' ones are useless when you have to get on point and stay on it till capped.

Not surprizingly, there is ALWAYS that one pub kid who picks him without fail every game. Some games we could win if one person literally just runs up and touches the cart, that one second is all we needed, and the fucking hanzo, ALWAYS hazon, will just be playing step mania in the corner shooting one arrow every 4 seconds.
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>>342489145
Don't nerf him.

Fix the fucking hitboxes
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>>342489785
When someone picks hanzo on your team just shit talk them in voice chat til they switch or leave.
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Hanzo is awfully designed.

He's not actually good, but he'll occasionally get random lucky shots either by spamming or with RNG Arrow, which makes him infuriating to play against. You still don't want him on your team though.

Also the hurtboxes that arrows get are retarded.
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>>342489145
>not buffing zenyatta
>not completely rewriting d.va
>perfectly balanced
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>>342489659
>d.va
Confirmed shitter
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>objectively worse than widowmaker
>Wants him nerfed

Hahaha
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>>342490158
Any game where the enemy team is retarded enough to let you do well as D.Va is a game where you would have done just as well if not better as literally anyone else too.
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>people pick this piece of shit every game and never do anything useful
remove this fucking trash from the game
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>>342490158
D.va is literally useless m8, she's slow, she does trash damage, her critbox is really big and easy to hit making her made of paper, her projectile immunity is really fucking good and can shut down ults like it aint shit, but it's just not enough to make her decent.

Her ult is ok because it's good space control, but once again, not enough, and there's better options.
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>>342490158
>picking d.va as a tank over winston
>or reinhardt
>or zarya

>pinking her as offence instead of tracer
>or reaper

>picking her as support instead of mercy
>or fucking lucio

She does literally nothing right.
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>>342490158
D.va is a close quarters damage hero with mediocre damage that's labeled as a tank.

And she's not even decent at any of those roles.
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Zenyatta needs a hp buff or an ability to move quicker
Tracer needs a damage nerf
Roadhog's hook needs to be fixed
Junkrat's splash damage from bombs on the ground needs a nerf
Widowmaker needs a further bodyshot damage nerf
Mei needs a distance nerf to her gun
Hanzo's scatter show damage needs to be reduced significantly
Mercy's Ult charge needs a nerf
D.va needs a long range damage buff and her crit box size reduced a lot, also she should move normally while firing
Lucio needs a nerf, I am not sure what it should be

Fixed the balance
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>>342490158
You remember the part where Blizzard wanted to buff D.Va? They've been "thinking of options" for what, how many months now???

You know when even the devs are stumped on how to make her better that she's fundamentally defect. She wants to be a tank but can't take damage for shit. She wants to be offence but does ass damage (even Mercy fucking outperforms her)

She needs to be redone entirely or scrapped. There's no point of her besides MUH KOREAN WAIFU MLG DORITOS MNT DEW XDDDD bullshit.
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how many mcree players are going to be exposed and quit once he is nerfed
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>>342490580
he already was nerfed, and they already started crying.
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>>342490580

You mean nerfed again? Or did consolefags not get the patch?
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>>342490580
He was nerfed and he's used no way near as often in pubs, or at least in my experience. Feels great.
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>>342489478
If you can't counter a braindead Hanzo, you're the problem.
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>>342490829
yeah now it's filled with reapers and soldiers
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>>342490309
>her projectile immunity is really fucking good and can shut down ults like it aint shit
Even that's done better by Winston. The cooldown is awful but during that time, he's actually doing something.
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>>342491148
It depends, really. Winstons shield won't hold a Pharah or Bastion ult, or even Bastion shooting normally.

But in 99% cases, Winston or Reinhardt do it better, and in most of the cases where D.va does it better it's irrelevant because Bastion and Pharah are so easy to shut down.
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>>342490913
Most people still get fucked by eternal turret Bastion and Tolbojrn.

And the most boring PoTG usually goes to them just to show how shit that match was.
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>>342490571
All they need to do is restore her movement speed while shooting, thats it.

She was OP as fuck when she had higher damage and normal movement speed while shooting.

First they removed the damage, which made her perfect.

Then they removed her move speed while shooting, which made her garbage.

Just bring back the movement and reduce the head hitbox.
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>>342490458
>Zenyatta needs a hp buff or an ability to move quicker
Agree, he should be faster
>Tracer needs a damage nerf
Tracer needs to have exactly 100 hp.
>Roadhog's hook needs to be fixed
Yeah, cool down of 12 seconds

>Junkrat's splash damage from bombs on the ground needs a nerf
Nah he's fine
>Widowmaker needs a further bodyshot damage nerf
Nah, widow needs a move speed buff
>Mei needs a distance nerf to her gun
Nope, she should have 200 hp
>Hanzo's scatter show damage needs to be reduced significantly
Hanzo needs so many buffs and for his arrows hit boxes to be fixed
>Mercy's Ult charge needs a nerf
Then she'd be useless
>D.va needs a long range damage buff and her crit box size reduced a lot, also she should move normally while firing
Yes, exactly
>Lucio needs a nerf, I am not sure what it should be
Shouldn't be able to shoot, only push back, and it shouldn't have a cool down.
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>>342489145
>flank him
>kicking his shit in
>his panic shot hits me in the fucking head and kills me

It's frustrating. He's not OP though.
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Give Mei 25-50 less HP because she's supposed to play a defensive role and plenty of tools for it, not tank damage and heal with an invulnerable ice block. OR you could make the time it takes to get into an ice block have a slight delay so Meis have to play smarter and know when to climb into the block instead of mashing it whenever your health gets low. Did you get that hook with Roadhog? No you didn't, Ice Cube! Also add a slight delay at the end of the ice block (around the time of switching a weapon) before Mei can fire again. Maybe have the little robot glow when you throw the ult so people can at least try to get away.

Give Zenyatta 25-50 health. If it was armor he'd just earn it all back like Mercy. That way he can live a bit longer but not heal it, still making him a great Support character.

Make Mercy's ult take around 20 percent longer to gain. If you're healing a Tank who's doing their job you'll be able to revive people every minute or so.

Buff D.va's damage. Not too crazily, but enough so that it can take out at least squishies in around the time it takes Winston, ESPECIALLY considering the fact that with D.va you have to aim.
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>>342490009
>buffing Zenyatta

if there isn't a Widow dedicated to fucking his mouth 24/7 he's a goddamn terrorist
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>>342492043

Zenyatta moves as fast as reinhart, he dies to literally everything
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>>342489472
Junkrat.jpg
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>>342492151
Reinhardt has a charge, he's faster
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>>342489145
nerf him so fucking shitters stop insta picking him every single fucking game. hes not strong at all.
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>>342489659
>the 2nd best sniper
But there is only two snipers?
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>>342489659
>second best
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>>342493041
Which makes him the 2nd best
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>>342492010
>Buff D.va's damage.
Damage isn't going to help when she has 5m range max
Just give her an alternate fire like Roadhog for medium range firing
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How is Zarya shield balanced?
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>people unironically think D.Va is a good character

Are they just retarded waifu fags?
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>>342493446
it only lasts 1 second, what could go wrong :^)
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People are just salty. If Hanzo hits you, you basically have let him hit you. Any hero except bastion counters Hanzo.
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Me playing against Mei.
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>>342493446
A good Zarya will fuck everyone's shit up.
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>>342490571
It'S funny because they just have to copy LAwbreakers Dv.A they stole from them.
Blizzard is new to FPS's people tend to forget that.
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>>342493763
I don't think he's overpowered but the hitboxes are pretty frustrating

Just dying once when Hanzo shoots and literally never sees you and you die is pretty stupid

The easiest way to change this is to make his projectile faster but decrease the hitbox so it can't hit you through walls
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>>342489145

/v/ should stay out of discussion in anything competitive desu, just shitty nerds who dont know what they are talking about.
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>that awful feeling when you get hit by one of hanzo's arrows as tracer when it's a full meter off
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>>342490689
>already started crying.
Completely overnerfed the character to the point that he is literally M1 click the hero. It's boring as fuck, also widow didnt even like playing her but now she is just boring. They tend to overtune shit and then make it fucking shit so nobody uses it anymore. That's blizzard balancing 101.
The game had too less content to begin with, not a good idea to take more away instead of adding. I'm lvl100 and I quit the game because it got so stale, and the "nerfs" didnt help much.
Just funny how roadhog who is a worse McCree is not bitched about. It's shines a great light on blizzdrones like yourself.
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>>342490458
>Zenyatta needs a hp buff or an ability to move quicker

you're an idiot, a good zenyatta can play around all of that and be a critical support.

>Tracer needs a damage nerf

you're an idiot, she dies in like 2 seconds if you don't suck

>Roadhog's hook needs to be fixed

there's nothing wrong with it, just avoid it once and take him on from far out

>Junkrat's splash damage from bombs on the ground needs a nerf

no they don't, you can see them coming from a mile away

>Widowmaker needs a further bodyshot damage nerf

she's already nerfed she's fine

>Mei needs a distance nerf to her gun

mei is a joke

>Hanzo's scatter show damage needs to be reduced significantly

only sensible thing you've said so far

>Mercy's Ult charge needs a nerf

not really, she is so easy to kill. when making a move attack her first then take on the team

>D.va needs a long range damage buff and her crit box size reduced a lot, also she should move normally while firing

mostly agree

>Lucio needs a nerf, I am not sure what it should be

he's fine
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>>342490829
>Feels great.
What? That genjis, tracers and roadhogs are everywhere and dont have a counter anymore? Yeah so great indeed. I'm having a great time as tracer clearing a server.
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Get rid of this bitch and the game is actually fun.
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>>342494491
What color do you think her nipples and insides are?
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>>342489659
Zenyatta is god-tier
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>>342491894
>Hanzo needs so many buffs
He already is one-shot click the hero. What the fuck would you want to buff you mongoloid? I swear this game brings out the worst of the bottom feeders. It's kind of a good thing I guess at least I can literally see now how far gone these generations are. You fags are a joke.
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>/v/ thinks these 4 characters should be nerfed
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>>342489145
>nerf Hanzo

Wanna know how I know you're either completely new to this game or in MMR hell?

Lmao
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>>342494668
Brown and orange
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>>342489145
How about he gets a completely topless alt costume, then he'd be perfect.
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>>342489478
>Spam arrows
Well if that were the case he probably wouldn't be hitting you so much huh? Go ahead and try him out, lemme know how spamming arrows works for you. The arrows have an arc and travel time, and will only one shot people with a headshot. Not to mention he has no scope, so you'll generally see him sniping at a closer distance to widow, so if you do go after him his only escape is to kill you at close range (which then becomes a case of spamming arrows)
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>>342494668
the same color of her lips
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>>342489945
You're that faggot i muted one match
You were just buttmad you couldn't do shit as a tracer
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>every character i main is perfectly balanced
>every character that kills me is OP
every time
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>>342494668
Black
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>>342495115
muh
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>>342494404
>just avoid it
The hook is hitscan there is nothing to avoid and it's range is endless and its cooldown is 6 fucking seconds. He is way worse than McCree was and there is absolutely no outcry. How dumb can you kids be?
Hell he is literally McCree with better survivability and that as a fucken tank.
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>>342495115
More
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>>342494893

>First ever Hanzo game
>Spam arrows
>Get most eliminations and PotG

Dude it's not an exaggeration, it really is that easy.
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>>342490458
>Roadhog's hook needs to be fixed
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>>342489145
Keep it to /vg/ blizzshills

Stop spamming /v/ and learn the catalog since you already have threads by your coworkers
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>>342491894
They need to fix Widowmaker's Grapple, if you can't climb the surface the skill still needs it's obscene recharge time till you can use it again.
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>>342495439
Make me
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>>342495346
>range is endless

But that's not actually true is it?
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>>342495509
It's not
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>>342495346

The issue with Roadhog isn't his hook, it's his healing.

By this point I don't even try to kill Tracers or Meis if they're by themselves because they literally cannot kill me.
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How do you guys feel about Reinhardt? I absolutely want to love him as a character because he looks and plays so damn cool but he just always feels so underwhelming to me. His hammer feels like I'm hitting them with a foam bat doing fuck all damage.
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>>342495509
Exaggerated of course. On Illios with the huge hole in the middle you can pull someone from one corner of the middle to the other. The range is insane.
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>>342495509

Neither is it being hitscan but who cares let's make shit up
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>>342495740
He plays well enough, but yeah the only thing I would change is make the hammer more impactful
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>>342495847
The hook is actually hitscan
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>>342493973
What's dva like in lawbreakers
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>>342495346
range isn't endless, and it isn't a hitscan.
you're just dumb.
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>>342495668
>The issue with Roadhog isn't his hook
Damn well it is. It's a hitscan flashbang with huge range that leads to a one-shot.
How is that ok and McCree was not? I really dont get you kids.
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>>342495439
You post this in every thread for every game/franchise with more than one thread on /v/, yes?
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>hanzo on my team
>misses every shot
>presses q and nobody dies
>hanzo on the other team
>always headshots
>never misses
>presses q and teamkills every time
why
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>>342495847
It is hitscan you mongoloid. It was just some reddit faggot who spread myths about it and now everyone believes it. Kinda like you you faglord.
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>>342495740
Best tank in the game.
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>>342490458
>>342491894
Get off the internet kiddos, adults are talking
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>>342495995
>>342496265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jSeVvgNZU
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I only want him nerfed because people pick him and don't do jackshit the entire match. I see Hanzo on offense more than maybe 15 other characters, and 9 times out of 10, they don't help. I just want people to be discouraged from playing this worthless asshole.
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>>342496009
She doesn't have this retarded dmg fall-off, her gatling starts with a spread and the longer she fires the more accurate it gets. Pretty great idea desu, although I hate cliffy B. Actually a lot of the similar shit is better in Lawbreakers. Guess I have to get that shit too.
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>>342496018

But it really isn't.
If they made the regen from his Take a Breather take a little longer he'd be fine as is.
His hook isn't as strong as you're making it out to be.
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>>342496014
Mods? Do we really have to give every idiot a forum to voice his retardation? What about fucking doing your job?
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>>342496882
>he has an opinion I don't like
>mods!

Not him but that's pathetic
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>>342495995
>>342496265
You would have to be blind, retarded, and never actually even try him to think it is hitscan.
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>>342496882
Are you actually disabled? There are countless videos out there proving it isn't hitscan but you just sit and whine abou not being able to beat free ult meter the character
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>>342496882
Hook has a 21m range.

Also, >>342496421
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>>342496882
see this
>>342496421
It might often look like hitscan because of how retarded the game works, the whole favour the attacker and the 20 tick shit, but it's not hitscan. Mind you, it also has a retarded hitbox, so that doesn't help either.
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>>342496421
I hoped you post that idiocy. Scroll down in the comments and look at the video posted there.
It's meant for the guy and everyone like you that keep posting it.
It's hitscan it just has a delay but wherever your cursor is it will hook. You can do a 180 after clicking and it will hook there. It's not a projectile and thats why its broken as fuck and you get pulled through fucking walls.
You can literally not dodge the hook that is on a 6 second CD and favors the shooter. The worse your connection the fucking better.
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>>342496018
The thing is without his hook, he's a big ass damage sponge that your whole team should use to build ult off of. He actually has to land the hook as well, McCrees flash bang is an aoe and he can dump out 12 high damage rounds in 3 seconds.
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>>342496740
>His hook isn't as strong as you're making it out to be.
I don't know on what level you play but any half decent player lands 80%ish hooks in a game. Its fucking easy you can literally trace for a second and get the hook.
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>>342497431
>Scroll down in the comments and look at the video posted there.
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>>342496313
are you fucking dense? were all babies here fighting over which tit they can suck from the same fucking mother. doesnt matter if youre 70 or 3

v is a bunghole
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>>342497591

>It's strong because of player skill not because of the skill itself


Ok /v/
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>>342496740
>200HP McCree without any survivability and short range projectile stun omg NERF NERF IOMG BLIZZARD OP
>5quadrillion HP tank with a 200 foot hitscan hook on 6 second cd with a hugeass heal on short cd is totally fine.

I have a really hard time making sense of you. A really hard time son.
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>>342492010
Maaan, fuck Woolie
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>>342497892

>He thinks the problem McCree had was his flashbang and not his Fan The Hammer
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>>342497081
>he has an opinion I don't like
Being wrong factually is not an opinion you prancing little sissy.
God kill this board already it's fucking gone.
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>>342498000
>someone is wrong on the internet!
>mooooods

Funny, you sound like a whiny bitch either way.
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>>342497591
>I don't know on what level you play but any half decent player lands 80%ish hooks in a game.
Does that apply to you too?
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They really need to nerf Lucio and Mercy. Healing is far too viable and the current meta requires 2 healers per team to even compete.
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>>342497613
Lol he deleted it.
Fuck it, try it yourself. The problem is that you don't realize that it's hitscan but with a slight delay. But it still functions like hitscan, after the delay wherever your cursor is it will hook.
Hell its not rocket science just try it yourself for gods sake.
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>>342489145

>Nerf a hero that is usually regarded as not being very good

I honestly think the more I read about overwatch on /v/, the more I truly believe everyone that posts is fucking god awful at this game
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>>342494860
I still don't really understand why no one would use Mei in any competitive role. You'd think the ability to break apart teams at any range and have a mini-Zarya ult that freezes people for 2 seconds would be pretty useful.
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>>342497759
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN YOU CRAZY ASSHOLE
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Speaking of nips.

Did some Jewtube cuck make a video about Genji? Literally every server I get into, there is a Genji on each team
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Roadhog's hook definitely is hitscan.

You can pull a person through Rein's shield if you use it moments before the target is covered.

Source: I manage to do it every now and then and pull them through.
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>>342497892
>a squishy anti-flanker should be able to melt anything in the game one on one, he'll even 2 on 1
>the tank whose goal is to pull squishes away from a pack is unbalanced because he can one shot said squishy characters
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>>342498565
Fuck off back to >>>/pol/
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>>342493986
Like that doesn't happen with any of the other heros. And even then it rarely happens.
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>>342494107
>Not just ziping around him when he turns to look at you.
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>>342497997
"the problem" people where whining their babby eyes out over was exactly that. The fucking flashbang and then dying. Thats what they were fucking crying about. And the crying was the reason for the nerf. No crying no nerf.
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>>342498565
Every edgy thirteen year old wants to play a cyber not important weaboo ninja
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>>342498662
That's called lag, anon.

It gets blocked if you aren't lagging.
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>>342498824

Tick rate*
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>>342498781
The numbers showed he was beating tanks, like Reinhardts, Roadhogs, and Winstons just about every time. Why even play a tank when their anti-flanker is actually an anti-everything.
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>all these people complaining about hanzo and luck shots
It's just like when the huntsman was released all over again. What a joy!
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>>342498667
Are your parents brother and sister? Roadhog can do everything McCree could only way better and with way more survivability. And he still can and does it.
You can defend your whiny ass as long as you want but you don't make any sense.
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>>342498693
>Supporting E-beggars
Underage ban when
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>>342492010
>Make Mercy's ult take around 20 percent longer to gain. If you're healing a Tank who's doing their job you'll be able to revive people every minute or so.

No, fuck off. I want enemies to fear me, tracers to try to report me for aimbotting as I gun them down with the blaster and the enemy team hear

HELDEN

STERBEN

NICHT
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>>342498523
Haven't seen almost anyone play her over +60 lvl. She just sucks when people learned how to counter her.
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>>342491894
>Objectively best healer in the game can't res the entire team every 15 seconds.
>A single Mercy can no longer res twice in one push.
>WELL SHE MUST BE USELESS THEN!

>"2 life Dva" needs buffs that would make her reck literally all other heroes and become most OP in the entire game
>"Yes, exactly"

Retard.
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>>342499031
Only retarded Roadhogs died to McCree. If they pulled me in before I flashbanged, I won.

Roadhog needs to bait stuns/escapes from the offense characters by just shooting them enough enough to scare them, then hooking them right after they use the ability to secure the kill.

Most Roadhogs are pull first, die quickly idiots though
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>>342490458
No one ever talks about Phara ever
Buff Phara please!!
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>>342498667
>a squishy anti-flanker should be able to melt anything
That's pretty much the definition of a glass cannon yeah. And you are exaggerating so hard I shit on McCree's left and right after I learned to play him myself. He was fine. And the whole balance of the game is fucked now. It feels soulless.
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>>342499269
Pretty much everyone agrees she needs a slight damage buff.
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>>342498824
It only pulls you through walls because its hitscan omfg. Hitscan in the game favors the shooter.
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>>342499070
>Roadhog can do everything McCree could only way better

But that's wrong. McCree can snipe people and still be generally powerful from far range while still protecting himself from flanks. Roadhog can only hook one person every six seconds if he's godly.
Roadhog is countered by Zens anyway because that discord orb ruins any chance he has of surviving.

It just sounds like you're salty about being hooked all the time while playing Pharah
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>>342499070
He's also a fuckhuge target that's slow and easy to focus on, getting away from a hook is much easier than walking around a corner and getting flash banged. Besides they didn't touch his flashbang which is what people were mostly bitching about, McCree damage got nerfed, meaning he can still rape squishies, and so can Roadhog.
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>>342499523
Not fucking long range and being able to fire her infinite guns while running at full speed.
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>>342499553
Fun thing happened to me yesterday.
Had a guy playing Roadhog complain about Pharah being OP.
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Symmetra's Turrets now have 2hp.
How strong is this buff.
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>>342499031
>The numbers showed
Just like the "numbers" show that bastion is OP and torbjörn is unbeatable and all the other shit shitters complain about. Also you cant take comp play only. A normal mccree in single Q was perfectly fine. A damage boosted lucio boosted shielded by reinhardt McCree was a bit overtuned.
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>>342499553
Zen's only a counter to Roadhog if the Roadhog is trying to play like an actual tank by being out in the open.

Roadhog is a bruiser who excels as flanking and picking people off one by one. So many Roadhogs don't play him that way, and they don't know the proper time to hook or do anything. Watching other people try to play him quick play is painful the majority of the time.
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>>342499364
>low MMR shitter thinks his games are indicative of high level play

Kek
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>>342499175
Nothing stopping you from making money doing Youtube videos.
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>>342499553
I'm completely stunned actually by the sheer lack of an outcry about Worse McCree. The amount of bullhooks in each and every fucken match has gotten way too much.
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>>342490458
>Zen buff
Agreed. He's just so paper thin that there isn't a point
>tracer
She's fine. Maybe just increase rewind cool down because that gets silly
>roadhog
What's broken?
>Widow maker
Maybe drop it to 11 but honestly the nerf went a long way
>mei
Allow her ice Bullshit heal to be broken. I think that's a good nerf that keeps it fair.
>Hanzo
He's fine
>mercy
Holy shit yes. Just give her ultimate a quick time before executing. It's silly
>D.Va
Yeah she needs a major buff

And Lucio is fine.


Git gud.
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>>342499669
>muh huge target. Who gives a shit he is the cheapest shit in the game and always was. I hope by the vidya gods that your scrub ass moves up in ranks soon so you can actually feel how shit he is in your own face full of junk.
It's just a matter of time.
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>>342498781
>>342499031
>>342499884
>These people think that you needed to use the flash bang in order to exploit McFree(kills) broken right click.

kek
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>>342500019
This
I play Roadhog like a played McCree now. It's actually easier and cheaper but that's what you wanted. enjoy, please don't nerf.
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>>342499856
Is there even an instance of damage low enough for that to matter at all?
Lowest I can think of is a single tick of Winston's tesla cannon, and that'll still take out a Symmetra nest at a glance.
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>>342499348
The only thing Phara need is for her ultimate to not be shit
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>>342500132
>low MMR
Nigger please you are not even worth sniffing my ass.
McCree was fine in solo Q. I would've loved a rework but he wasn't a problem. Absolute glass cannon with no support or pocket heal.
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>>342494938
I can count on one hand the number of Hanzos that actively contributed to the objective
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>>342498742
As a Hanzo player, Tracer getting next to you usually means easy kills because the hitbox is huge.
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>>342500679
Yeah and it wasn't even fun to use with the shit ass spread. McCree needed a rework, not neutering the shit he got.
Show me someone that likes to play him now and I show you a faggot without any taste whatsoever.
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Notice how all the people have stopped complaining about Bastion now they know how to play against him?

The only thing I want balanced in this game is Meis ultimate ability having a brief cast time like other ults and the ability to destroy the drone making the blizzard.

Game is well balanced otherwise
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>>342495115
UHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>342501227
His ult let you get a kill but pointing in the general direction of a person and right clicking since only about half the bullets needed to connect to kill a squishy.

The flashbang was only necessary if you planned on soloing a tank at point blank without any support.
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>>342491894
>Step on junkrat roller
>150 damage
fuck you
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I want the option to play only KOTH maps.

This game does not play well in CP or payload.
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>>342501425
That's because the vast majority of Tracer players suck balls, not using the teleport and recall properly.
Or they just run straight at people, getting fucking raped.
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>>342501227
Top Kek. I'd be mad too, if I had provably wrong opinions like you. Keep being a shitter, nigger.
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>>342500679
I don't get it? What is that supposed to show?
You know what I found out? Pharah has pretty much most of her kills with the rocket-launcher!!
Surprising isn't it?
Kill yourself.
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>>342501634
Why is there no deathmatch mode?
Or capture the flag?

Even if it is not balanced for the games design, then just don't put in competitive mode.
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>>342489785
>be hanzo
>can't aim
>look at enemy feet
>scattershot
>instakill
>get cocky in chat
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>>342501634
>KOTH
>Opposing team goes double winston and overtime you for 10 minutes.
>"Fun"

KotH is literal cancer in this game.
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>>342501696
Nice edges there little man. Did you do your homework yet?
Oh wait let me guess you are the little faglord that thinks Roadhogs hook isn't hitscan and are still butthurt about being wrong?
Your torn ass gave it away.
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>>342501923

Hero stacking will always be broken, regardless of gametype.
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>>342490458
Tracer requires more skill to get kills than any other offensive hero besides like, Genji maybe (though Genji's not having damage falloff is pretty easy mode). You ever compared aiming those spready ass guns with crazy fall off to reaper's cheeseguns?
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>>342501565
Exaggerations the post. And are you actually talking about ult? You know the ult hasn't changed yes? And I bet your scrawny ass got fucked while trying to ult with him a hundred times right son?
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>>342501314

How much have you played? I can fully say there has been bad people playing every class.
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>>342501634
For a game that is trying to imitate a MOBA, I would like to see how a 3 lane, attack the towers map like in LoL and Smite.
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>>342500401
>what's broken?
maybe the fact that the hitbox is a country mile wide and can pull you THROUGH walls?
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>>342501553
>ability to destroy the drone making the blizzard
by the same logic widow ult should stop if she dies, or hanzo dragons should just dissappear if they hit a wall, or zarya black hole cancelled if she dies, and the list goes on
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>>342501634
Funny, I want KOTH maps gone completely. Insta leave everytime I hear the announcer.
You got a very weird taste son. Actually it's abysmal.
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>>342501962
Nice ad hominem retard. My only other posts was me calling you out on being bad. I guess you don't even have any arguments left. Pretty embarrassing, senpai.
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>>342501690
Not really, even good players die to Hanzo because of the fucking ridiculous hitboxes. All it takes is one hit.
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>>342501734
>Comparing projectile compensating Pharah to McCree's right click adventure.

Point is:
Pharah takes somewhat of a brain to get kills while you needed to have two things as McCree (pre-nerf): Be in mid range and right click.

Not that I'm complaining, I exploited the fuck out of that, as the screenshot shows, the overwhelming majority of the kills I got with him is with the right click.
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>>342502263
>widow ult should stop if she dies
not a bad idea desu family

the rest of the shit you are trying to project is just silly though and doesnt really have the same 'logic window' as being able to stop her ultimate, you can stop a lot of other heroes
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>>342489785
>be reindhart
>see enemy hanzo in ground level
>go with my shield up towards him
>instead of trying to get higher ground or just run past me and scatter arrow me, 99% of the time they just start spamming arrows like retards while I smash him against a wall with my hammer

Most hanzos are shitters who don't know what to do besides spamming arrows behind their group hoping to get a kill
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>>342493446
Zarya's shield*

Lots of niggerspeak up in here lately. Apostrophe S exists for a reason, Tyrone.
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>>342502467
I must be going up against really shitty Hanzos then.

Tracer is my go-to for countering Hanzo, works like a charm if you can anticipate when he's about to shoot and don't get up in his face.
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What if they just make his arrows more visible so he can't just spam like a retard
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>>342493336
Never second best
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>>342502448
>Nice ad hominem
That's literally all you got so far kiddo. That's not even irony, that's just sad.
Seriously just hop along now young man.
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>>342502754
Tracer is really not a counter to Hanzo, you even die super easily to scatter arrows.

Winston is a better counter.
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The only thing wrong with Hanzo is the fucking HUGE headshot hitboxes. It results in shooting the shoulder counting as a headshot.
I saw a replay of a Hanzo shooting at a corner and getting a headshot on a Widow he couldn't even see because the hitbox was so big.
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>>342494893
If you didn't notice there's a maximum that the arrow can drop.

Go on any map and shoot as far as you can, you will notice that the arrow will never drop past the second dot.
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>>342502745
>Apostrophe S exists for a reason
Zarya is shield?
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desu the heroes iin overwatch are meant to be overpowered in some way or another and it makes it fun but it get annoying when people use it again ..... fuck everything
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>/v/ is so bat at videogames that they want Hanzo and Mei, two of the worst heroes in the game, to be nerfed
>a game which is basically the Smash of FPS
Can't stop the kek.
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>>342499669
He doesn't movement abilities but he has the walk speed as every other character in the game.
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>>342502563
sorry tard but seriously, complaining about mei's ult is the most stupid shit, like complaining about not being able to kill a bastion.

you hear her ult
you see the robot
you have like 2 seconds to escape the area, something +90% of the heroes can do without any problem
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>>342489145
The game is pretty damn balanced if you ask me, compared to every other game out there.

But yeah fix hitboxes on the PC. Console kiddies it's understandable.
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>>342502241
>through walls

isn't that the fault of tickrate/latency?

Plenty of other things can hit players through walls.
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>>342494893
>press e and shoot in general direction of enemy for a kill
>difficult
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That problem with the arrow spam is that there is infinite ammo. Why the fuck is there infinite ammo
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>>342500401
>lucio is fine
He makes Mercy almost completely irrelevant outside of her ult. Bad game design.
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>>342503024
The only problem I have with him is that using him or playing as him you can hit players outside the crosshair. Too much phantom hits. HP wise and damage wise I think he's ok.
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>>342502924
Okay then, I will stop using what is an effective Hanzo counter for me because someone said I was doing it wrong and should be using the shitty monkey that insta-dies to scatter shot instead.
Sorry.
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>>342502169
Shit, I meant fan the hammer. Shit was so much more useful than hit ult, I mix it up.
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this game is literally about getting good

don't bitch about characters that kill you, you're likely just bad/ not playing with your team or your team was just shit.

the only thing that really frustrates me about this game is faggots that pick it up and try to play it like CoD. they dance around the objective while time is running out and the other team is all over the objective. this leaves players that actually try to play the game correctly to get fucking rekt because all of the hanzos, genjis, etc are just trying to get kills and not fucking play the objective.
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>>342503082
Also.
90% of Mei players are retards and never get their Ult on the point anyways, it usually ends up in an irrelevant corner somewhere.
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>>342503863
>this game is literally about getting good
This is bait.
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>>342502448
what is this damn .gif from? Nobody who has posted it has known
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>>342503516
Reaper fucks the shit out of hanzo. 9/10 times I square up with them I win, unless he gets a magical headshot or he's got backup and I don't.
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I saw that video of that korean girl doing really good with Zarya

Nerf Zarya
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>>342502963
No. Zarya's shield. Shield belonging to Zarya.

Possessive apostrophe.

http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/apostrophe.html
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>>342503995
Good luck nerfing the characters that kill you senpai.
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>>342504207
Have fun being a strawmanning retard making assumptions about people.
Fucking cunt. Literally kill yourself.
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>>342489659
Don't get the bastion hate over i.e. d.va to be fair. He's not the best pick but it's quick play and I definetly carried defenses by being unpredictable with him.
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>>342493336
also known as the worst
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>>342489145
I wouldn't even consider him needing a Nerf, more like his arrow hitboxes need to be straight up fixed, it's as if they have splash damage twice as strong as pharahs fucking rockets. He should not be able to one shot people around corners and behind walls.
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I play Hanzo, I'm decent at him and I capture points. I am not cancer
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>>342504339
Stay mad Anon. You can always go back to the new CoD once it drops.
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>>342489145

Hanzo is like the most shit, useless character in the entire game.

21 characters

and he is on top of the heap

go play CandyCrush if you think he needs nerfing
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>>342504180
>this has to be explained

Mon dieu.
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>>342498824
except i throw the hook where they are standing, and by time it gets to them theyre well behind a wall and i hook them through it. it tracks their location the moment i press shift. it acts like a hitscan
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>>342504567

Hanzo is one of my favorite characters in the game and I think this is true. I don't know how to buff him to make him good but I honestly don't understand idiots on /v/ wanting to nerf his hitbox when even with it he is bad.
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>>342503024
Have you seen how much bitching and crying and nerf demanding people do in Smash Bros threads? We're just like SJWs, we demand everything be brought down to our levels instead of working to become better.
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>someone picks Zenyatta as a solo healer
>have to pick a main healer to pick up his slack.
>don't have a tank that he can stand behind
I'm getting real sick of this shit. Pick a tank, pick a dedicated healer, or pick a class that isn't made of fucking paper.
Your faggot debuff isn't going to do anything when they're all hiding behind a shield you mongoloid.
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I pick Hanzo when the team needs a sniper and nobody else on the team is willing to switch.
I hate playing as Widowmaker, she's my least favorite character in the game and not enjoyable. I'm not going to use her just because whiny faggots bitch at me.
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>>342504523
Good job!
Your mom must be proud
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>>342503863
I want Hanzo massively changed, not because I think he's overpowered, but just because he's not fun to play against. Being silently raped around a corner by someone who didn't even try remotely to kill you is very discouraging.
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>people complaining about team comps in quick play

If this was competitive I would understand, but it isn't.
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>>342504949
>but just because he's not fun to play against

This is the same excuse used for nerfing every character, including Mei and Bastion.
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>>342494404
>Widowmaker
>Fine

No. She was nerfed in the hands of shitters, she's still horrendously broken when played by anyone with basic aiming ability.
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>>342504949
I kind of agree, but I actually like playing against hanzos. I know they won't dare to go near the objective because they'd get fucking destroyed. It makes it easier having one less body to fight close range.

But he can do some heavy damage if you're not careful.

I'm just normally Reaper or Reinhardt so I don't worry about him much
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Hanzo is a credit to team.
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>>342500401
>wants to nerf tracer or mei at all
>telling other people to git gud

lol
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>>342504453
this desu
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>>342505062
The difference is you can always do something against Mei and Bastion. They don't cheaply skullfuck you from around a corner because you happened to walk around it at the wrong milisecond. It's not something that decides games and I don't think he should be made weaker, just adjusted to be more interesting both to play as and against.
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>>342489145
>nerf the hero played by only the WORST players out there
to what end?
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>>342505187
>17%
>7 second objective time
>Thinks he's a good hanzo player and a credit to team.

Ex Dee
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>>342505187
>17% accuracy
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>>342505187
You play with a 4k monitor?
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>>342505369
>They don't cheaply skullfuck you from around a corner because you happened to walk around it at the wrong milisecond.

That's exaxtly what they do though. You either get frozen by Mei or mowed down by Bastion.

>It's not something that decides games and I don't think he should be made weaker, just adjusted to be more interesting both to play as and against.

Again you're regurtitating the exact same argument used against Mei and Bastion
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>>342505468
>Thinking every hero needs to be standing on point
Yeah, snipers that have no mobility or short-range defense aside from good aim should really be pushing.
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>>342501553
nah. her ultimate is fine the way it is. you can see it being tgrown at you and you can hear her position when she casts it. use your head and move.

>>342501634
Lijang Tower is fine, but how could anyone enjoy Illios? I want the option to choose the maps or at least gamemodes i queue for so i never need to do the assault game mode again.
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>>342505468

Objective time is low because they didn't even make it onto the point, retard. They were getting cut down across the map.

>>342505510
There's literally no reason to not be spamming arrows preemptively. Nearly half of my kills were headshots.

>>342505541
Yes.
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>>342505468
A Good hanzo doesn't spend the match sitting on the objective.

>>342501553
>Meis ultimate ability having a brief cast time like other ults
It already does. In fact the cast time is longer than most.

>And the ability to destroy the drone making the blizzard.
That would make it virtually useless.
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>>342505609
>>342505743
>>342505778

Snipers are the most useless classes in the game and should never be played.

Literally any other character could have achieved those stats, but also help with blocking the point.
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>>342505574
Both Mei and Bastion require, at the least, a small amount of time focusing fire on your to die. You at least have a chance to act in response to try to prevent your death. Hanzo can instantly kill you without you having a chance to defend yourself at all. That's the difference.
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>>342502963
that also indicates possession.

for example, Tracer's guns are cool and so is her bottom.
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I think the only shit character that's problematic is widow. She's a game ruiner, and adds nothing to the game. With a good widow, you can only counter them with another widow. Its bad design, I hope the new character has a direct counter to all of widows bullshit. I will master that character.
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>>342505848
>Snipers are the most useless classes in the game and should never be played.
Snipers are for area denial not for contesting the objective like tanks. Why can't people understand this?
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>>342505848

None of the offense heroes are effective at cutting down enemies at such long range, except for maybe Soldier but even then he's not as efficient.

The purpose of a sniper is to prevent them from ever getting on to the point and efficiently eliminating targets. I was literally getting a kill every 20 seconds you faggot.
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>>342504025
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