Who else here actually quite liked Fallout 3 in their or third second play through?
It's genuinely comfy and atmospheric. The story is shit but if you just try to enjoy it as an open world game its pretty fun.
>>342458859
in their third or second play through*
don't know how i fucked that one up.
i liek it a lot OP and i dont really like fallout NV even though i try too, not sure why this is the rare opinion
it's the only Fallout game I didn't play through more than once
>>342458859
My favourite out of NV and 4. 4 was garbage, NV was good and better in a lot of ways but the atmosphere for me was better in 3.
>>342458859
Better ambient music. Better 'dungeons' (your pic for instance) where I can just roll up and kill enemies and get some neat loot. NV lacked this in particular, only places that came close were Black Mountain and the Bison Steve Casino, both of which are encountered early game. Random enemy spawns and events help keep things fresh between these dungeons. In the end, F3 has much more enjoyable exploration. NV outclasses it completely in story and game mechanics (crafting, weapon variety, consumable and ammo variation). Really boils down to the individual which of these they enjoy more.
>>342458859
I couldn't make it through one playthrough, and not because of the bad writing, bad story, bad graphics, bugs, but the fact that the combat--which is nearly the entire game is terrible. You're weak at first and everything just steamrolls you because you can't implement tactics, then you get a decent weapon and stand on objects they can't reach and their AI breaks. It's no fun.
>>342458859
>Fallout 3
>third or second play through
>>342458859
>Inb4 muh original fallout
Easily my favorite one. Only thing that even comes close to matching it is Tactics.
For whatever reason everything about 3's atmosphere clicked for me. One of the few games I 100 percented.
2 > NV > Tactics > 1 > 3 > BoS > shit > 4
Wandering the wasteland was fine but anything not linked to the putrid shit drips that was the story felt like it had fuck all impact.
>comfy
die in a fire3 was dogshit
Only way to make Fallout 3 comfy
>kill Three dog or whatever was the name of that radiohost
>never ever enter into any subwaytunnel
>don't do the main quest
At least you can be total asshole in 3 unlike in 4.
>>342462139
I bet you enjoyed Fallout 4.
i liked 3 better than NV, though i think they're both nice. i'm not a lore fag into retarded factions so NV never really appealed to me much.
>>342462228
haven't played it and don't want to
>>342462084
> 2 > NV > Tactics > 1 > 3 > BoS > shit > 4
my fucking nigga
>>342462457
Wise choice anon, congratulations on not being a total autist
>>342462139
calm down thomas
>>342458859
i liked it
it felt pretty empty and lifeless though.
NV was way better.
Up
>>342462139
>>comfy
this anon is correct
comfy is a fucking retarded word when, precisely, the ruined atmosphere and the disgusting filter that makes everything brown and filthy makes this game the opposite of comfy
fucking retards I swear to God
It's a great game on it's own, a pretty enjoyable fps with rpg mechanics that was loved by most people who weren't hard into nostalgia from older Fallouts and made the series massively popular and succesful, i played it back then when it was released before even browsing this shithole so gladdy i could enjoy it without retarded memesters trying to ruin it for me.
>>342466310
>literally doesn't understand comfy in this context
We mean its the kind of game that is comfortable emotionally. Its familiar, safe and fun without effort. It doesn't force you to be perfect or die with every encounter and its a world you know and enjoy exploring.
It has NOTHING to do with the visuals.
>>342462084
Switch 1 and Tactics and that's my list exactly.
Why do you cucks still play 3 and NV when 4 has vastly superior combat
>>342467720
Even assuming that's correct, it would be the only thing 4 does better.
>>342467720
Because there's more to Fallout than fucking shooting.
>>342467720
>muh rooty tooty point and shooty
I bet you're going to buy Infinite Warfare too, you cuckold
It sure does smell like shit taste here
There are some good set pieces in 3.
Bethesda's problem is that they lack the focus to stitch them all together cohesively.
>>342458859
Tales of two wastelands mod, started in NV and just explored the CW while ignoring the main quests and it's horrendous writing.
That's the best way to approach Fallout 3.
It's got some interesting locales, side quests and they did good with the atmosphere. It stops there though, NV surpasses it on every level.
fallout 1 and 2 could be board games
>>>/tg/
NV would never have existed without the innovation of 3.
On the contrary on the second or third playthrough I realised just how boring and repetitive the world was.
>>342468723
>Ghoul Canal #5235 is an interesting location
3D fallouts are cancer.
>>342458859
bad RPG
bad FPS
but yeah a decent open-world running around game and makes a nice canvas for mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
The biggest issues with Fallout 3 is the writing and characters really
There's no real conversations in the game, hell. Eden and the final boss literally just either kill themselves or walk away from a single sentence of dialogue
Compare that to games such as 1 where for the final boss you have to have a legitimate conversation about morals and describe in depth why the Masters plan would not work.
In 3 the BoS and Mutants are downgraded to "Giant Heros" and "Big dumb villians" respectively with no other development besides that
>>342458859
>quite liked Fallout 3 in their or third second play through
I pity you if you have not enough other games to play so that this situation seriouly could happen.
If something is not enjoyable the first time, why play again? Hell, why even finish?
WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS
>>342458859
Fallout 3 was my first Fallout title and I really like it, yeah. Great fun to explore.I went back and tried the originals, and I like those too, don't worry.
>>342469454
>I didn't enjoy it therefore its unfathomable to me that anyone thinks differently
Autism.
>>342469434
>The biggest issues with Fallout 3 is the writing and characters really
the AI, world design, and shooting mechanics are pretty awful too
>>342469434
There's two other major problems I'd associate with it.
1. Terrible settlements. The settlements just suck. They're all awful. Megaton just doesn't look good at all and not in a 'so bad it's good' way but just bad. Rivet city is a joke. And that's honestly it, eveything else is insignificant.
2. Wasteland. This is obviously a bit ironic given the setting but the original fallouts disguised the fact that you're in a wasteland due to the world map full of random encounters. You know it's a wasteland without actually having to endure it. NV is smaller in overall scale but with places packed with overall more to do and see.
3 is big and mostly just full of outright nothing.
It's okay as a loot-fest and basic exploration but as soon as I start doing quest and initiating dialogue I want to kill myself.
I don't know, why not just play NV, you get both open world and decent writing. NV may not have a million subways and generic offices to explore but it still has plenty of decent dungeons with some backstory.
>>342469064
Not him but the subways were my favorite part of FO3. Not that I think they were good, they were lazy copy paste dungeons but I'm a sucker for dark and dank places like that.
I still despise FO3, when the shitty subways were my favorite part of it you know it's a bad game.
>>342469064
>implying
Didn't say pic related anon. Just snagged a random screenshot from my Fo folder.
I just said it has some things going for it in it's atmosphere but have your (you).
>>342469802
Both of those are true. I got something that associates with the wasteland: The game isn't hard.
Since you can go anywhere from the very beginning of the game, they didn't make any area besides one or two very hard. Because of this the tension never rises throughout the entire game until the last mission, and you don't even need to shoot there.
I haven't played 4 yet, but from what I've seen it looks like the people you interact with act "modern". Or at least, what Bethesda people think modern people act like. Am I at all correct? Like, a lot of people are sarcastic, or condescending. Im not really able to put in words what I'm trying to get at.
RPG mechanics simply do not work with "skill based" gameplay like shooting.
3D Fallout in it's current form will always be shit because of this.
>>342458859
I enjoy it more than NV. NV has better story and writing but terrible atmosphere and world design. The writing is still shit-tier so who cares if it's better. I'd play 1 or 2 if I wanted a quality RPG experience.
>>342458859
It's an all around shitty game, but exploring and mods were still fun.
It really has way less replay value than NV though.
>>342470206
Meanwhile people complain that NV had dangerous zones preventing you from going there immediately at level 1 with shit equipment.
Fucked up spawning mechanics killed it for me.
>>342469320
>90 min thesis on why Fo3 sucks
>Starts reeee'ing 3 minutes in
>Uses meme imagery
I'm still watching it though.
>>342469614
Read the OP, very slowly, and repeatedly.
mentioning that it was enjoyable on a later playthrough suggests that the first one was not.
Are you really so dumb that you don´t understand basic sentences?
I mean, you are obviously plenty retarded, but do you lack any kind of reading comprehension?
>>342467649
This, comfy is the feeling of relaxed penalization. For example Valkyria Chronicles is the exact opposite. One screw up and you do an hour's worth of replaying unless you play very narrowly along with the "proper play."
Fallout is the opposite. Dying means so little and happens so rarely that the game is more about getting the jump on things than throwing down.
For me it's good to have a mixed library of chill games and tension games.
>>342462209
Just play NV; support the Legion and slaughter everyone in the name of Caesar
>>342458859
I agree that 3 had much better world exploration and atmosphere than NV.
yes NV had logical locations, people were cleaning up and stuff. But I just thought 3 tried to have so fun while making stuff. Megaton was neat with the bomb, but it was shit.
Rivet city was an interesting concept from the art work but didn't work in the engine.
I enjoyed exploring DC, like the museums, shops, finding a small band of mercenaries and helping them, trenches with mutants. Liked it more than the desert in NV.
Then you had cool locations like Dunwich, Tenpenny, BoS Outcasts, the whole of the Pitt. Point lookout was great and still my favorite fallout DLC.
Which is a shame that all this is fucked by horrible combat, OP perks that make it too easy, horrible writing, bad main quest line and the stupidest fucking ending (in regards to that mutant not wanting to shut off the water treatment plant)
>>342471407
>Autistic and triggered.
>>342470551
>yes
>no (until you say yes)
>sarcastic (yes)
>more infos
>>342458859
>atmospheric
it felt more like a "wouldn't that be cool?" instead of a "does that work together with what we're trying to do?". None of the pieces fit together and they don't even work alone.
And let me tell you something else. People who evaluate something with a single word such as "atmospheric" tend to be associated with novices who have not studied enough to come up with a proper critique and quite often dismiss the thing entirely. This would be like reviewing a paper or a film or a painting with one word.
"Atmospheric" is just a buzzword that doesn't mean anything and you shouldn't use it as a real argument.
>>342471849
Most locations in 3 trigger the everliving shit out of the RPG fan in me.
>>342458859
Why would I touch 3 when I can literally just play it in new vegas, TTW exists for a reason
>>342472205
It's subjective anon
I hate fallout 3 but I understand why some people would prefer it's atmosphere and tone and shit
If they go around saying it's a better RPG than NV, that's where they become objectively wrong
Only things I liked about fo3 was:
Best radio by far.
Spelunking in the city ruins.
Watching the repercussions of your stupidity unfold, regardless of your best intentions.
>dat feel when you felt bad for the ghouls outside of tenpenny so you help them out and they slaughter everyone inside
Felt like shit.
>>342458859
For me, the first playthrough of Fallout 3 was the best. After that, it started to look more boring. Luckily, around that time, New Vegas came out.
My main gripe was that they made BoS friendly and open instead of xenophobic. Which is fine for as a faction. But they also added the Outcasts. So it just makes me wonder why they didn't just switch the two. Have the outcasts topple the BoS and control the citadel and act more friendly.
>>342473037
I liked rape-killing and enslaving children as turbo enclave nazi together with my SS squad and travelling around with my vertibird under the double headed eagle flag.
Shit I was edgy as teen, nearly as bad as Shadmans average drawings.
>>342467720
>first-person game
>"""combat"""
hack-and-slash and shoot-em-up doesn't constitute good combat. It's entirely resource based and there's no skill involved.
Resource-based combat:
>dependent on the player's health, loadout, accuracy, and ammunition count
>little to no range of movement, may the higher level win
Examples:
>Fallout
>Skyrim
>most FPS games
>most Call of Duty games
Skill-based
>dependent on the player's understanding of the other player's strategies, the player's ability to use the controls to their fullest, the player's accuracy for even melee attacks, and the player's willingness to either be patient and observe or be aggressive and overwhelm the opponent
Examples:
>Quake
>Zelda
>Souls
>Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
>>342473037
New Vegas radio is better, sorry. 3dog is an annoying piece of shit and the songs are all memes. It's even worse in fo4.
>uranuim fever lol!
>atom bombs lol!
>ITS A NUCLEAR WASTELAND GAME, GET IT?!?
I also couldn't stand how they reused every single song from 3, as if I hadn't hear them enough
>>342458859
>shit gameplay (to be honest, NV isn't that much better in the gameplay department, but that's not why I like gameplay
>retarded world
>shit writing
I don't understand the appeal of 3.
>>342462084
2>1>NV>Tactics>4>3
How could anyone like 3?
It was so brain-dead.
>>342473037
>tenpenny quest
Fuck that quest.
>stop the ghouls from murdering people who you just spent time getting them to side with the ghouls
>>"THAT LONE WANDERER IS A PIECE OF SHIT"
>let the ghouls slaughter innocent people
>>"HAW HAW HAW, THOSE GHOULS SURE SHOWED THEM"
Fuck Fallout 3.
>>342473525
>New Vegas radio is better
Opinion irrelevant, it had like 1/3rd the number of songs at launch and all of them were slow and depressing bullshit that just made traversing the empty wastes more monotonous.
Not to mention the wet rag that was mr new vegas, who doesn't even exist in the game world.
>>342473669
How did they get rich anyway? Investment fonts? Aside from that one adventurer, no one had a reason to even be there.
>>342473785
Most of them were retired slaver commanders if you paid close attention.
>>342473669
It's funny because fans of 3 think that quest is so good and branches. That's their idea of a good quest.
>>342473869
Oh there was a reason? Nice. It's a long fucking time ago that I've played 3.
>>342473037
FO4 reused most of 3s radio I realized it really wasn't that good. Too many silly and wacky songs and not enough that just set the tone like NV's.
>>342473734
>old bluegrass and jazz
>worse than just jazz
Kill yourself.
>>342458859
i enjoy it in all of my playthroughs
reinstalling it right now because i've never played with mods
>>342473968
The problem was nv's tone was boring as fuck, and all the songs did was reiterate how boring it was to walk around a desert.
It made perfect sense in fo3/4 because the world is shit so the music is up-beat so people don't kill themselves, and it created this great mix of up-beat music to awful situations making a weird kind of madness that made everything more fun.
I think the people who like F3 were around 10 at the time, so that's why they love it so much.
Poor bastards never got a chance to grow up with good games.
>>342474268
>The problem was nv's tone was boring as fuck
>whacky is funny xD
underage
next you'll complain that Tactics had blue rock.
Oh wait you were only a toddler when that came out.
>>342474270
Still better than the 8 year olds who played new vegas without realizing it was a shitty expansion to fo3 at best, because they never played fo3.
>>342474372
Opinions of someone who never played fo1 or 2, both of which were wacky as shit.
>>342474441
NV is plenty whacky though you poser
3 is just so limited, no replay value. I don't play Fallout for a linear plot and shooting people.
I like all 3 of the 3D Fallouts. I liked NV the least, but that's mostly because it's glitchy as shit on PS3.
Why do you have to hate one to like the other(s)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
Can someone help me with these fucking updates and mods?
My game worked fine a few months ago which was the last time i played it.
Now, the shell rain mod wont work (and maybe others too that i havnt noticed).
What has the update changed, i cannot get it working
>>342474658
People who hate something are more vocal, also Bethesda really fucked up NV's development and some think they fucked up Fallout as a whole so people bear a grudge towards them.
I enjoyed 3, but prefer NV. 4 doesn't really appeal to me, but I might try it somewhere down the road.
>>342473491
>everybody's ignoring my shitpost
I clearly have practicing to do
>>342474691
>1 and a half hour long video about why a game is shit
Who manages to sit through this? Can't people form their own opinion about the game?
>>342474658
>PS3
go away
>>342473990
>He thinks New Vegas had 'bluegrass' music.
>>342474658
It just happens, 3 was a huge disappointment to me and I've played through it once pre DLC, and once last year. Still shit.
Then NV came out and was actually fun. I can't tell you how many times I've played through it.
Hell even 4 got beat twice before any DLC.
>>342474658
because people with obnouxious opinions cant accept that their fav isnt someone elses, fanboismn i guess
>>342475071
country
whatever
fact is it was varried
>>342475062
That's not what your mom said to me last night.she actually said the opposite. She said "come here."
>>342474658
It's about quality.
People hate 3 and 4 because they're lazy, and 4 basically butchered the franchise and turned it into Borderlands with Vaults.
>>342458859
>atmospheric
there's that fucking word again
>>342475243
wow really
that's not even the slightest bit creative
>>342475243
amazing
>>342458859
I liked it on my first run. Only thing the main campaign had was Liberty Prime but it had some fantastic sidequests
>>342475314
Borderlands already had Vaults, dumbshit.
>>342459017
>>342460491
>>342462064
>>342462314
>>342467505
>>342474658
>>342475154
We're in serious need of a purging. And I'm being generous in my selection.
>>342475360
BUILDINGS AND SHIEEEET
>>342475361
Unfortunately, that's also what your mom told me.>mfw I'm not an adventurous enough lover to satisfy your mother. sad.jpg
>>342475445
exactly
>>342474510
It really isn't, hell they had to segregate all the wacky shit to an optional perk because they thought it would ruin the boring realistic brown world they tried to create.
>>342475452
Fuck off Josh. But gimme your gun and armor first.
>>342475452
4u
>>342475569
How about your companion mutant who thinks they're an old lady. Or The Kings. Or the Gould wanting to go into space in their little space suits.
You're just nitpicking.
>>342475452
>tfw you're gonna let Joshua down this playthrough
I almost don't want to
>>342475746
>barren desert
>pretentious
delusions of a fool
>>342475746
Is that picture supposed to prove anything other than how retarded you are?
>>342475047
People who enjoy analysis, and don't get butthurt.
>>342475746
The masses also prefer Skyrim over Fallout in general, you gonna try to convince me it's better?
>>342475746
>pretentious
I don't even..
>>342476025
I'm not butthurt, I don't give a shit about Fallout 3.
>>342458859
I enjoyed it when it came out and put a decent amount of time into it just picking the world apart, but trying to play it now or even just Tale of Two Wastelands I can only end up stomaching maybe at most 40 minutes of the game.
>>342476324
then you may have ADHD, sorry
>>342476324
Then don't watch it, instead of getting triggered for no reason.
>>342476425
Just the kind of attitude I'd expect from a guy who takes his opinions from some pretentious brit on YouTube.
Just telling you no one ITT is gonna sit through that video, instead you should formulate what you think here instead of letting a YouTube video speak for you.
>>342476535
Not planning on it.
I enjoyed it but I had no reason to replay once I beat it other than getting the platinum
NV does everything better than 3 except performance
>>342474691
Currently watching this, I completely forgot how awful the tutorial was compared to NV.
Like holy shit it's so terribly long. I remember having a file right before the last door for new characters just to avoid the tutorial.
>>342476813
>no one ITT is gonna sit through that video
I am.
I had serious buyers remorse when I bought this, and I bought it late for like 8$. I absolutely hated it on my first playthrough, except for the first few hours. I enjoyed the early portion of the game where your just scraping by, rummaging through every shelf just taking whatever you can get and sell. But pretty quickly you have thousands of bottlecaps and theres no game any more. Like you said, the story is shit, so theres just nothing left. Finished in under 20 hours.
I got a random urge to go back and give it a try, but I wanted to keep that feeling from the first few hours throughout. Basically I just used the following limitations; no fast travelling, and once you leave an area or settelement, theres no going back, even if you would make more money there.
This playthrough ended up being 88 hours, and was a fucking amazing journey. I purposefully took a circular route around the map, completing everything in the game, and only after like 55 hours did I even make it to the GNR building.
I will never argue that Fallout 3 is a buggy, poorly made mess, but there is a fucking great adventure to be had if you want it.
>>342477095
Samefag
>>342477280
You really are pathetic.
>>342477280
>this fucking idiot
>>342475160
>varied
>Johnny Guitar intensifies
Good one
>>342477476
what does 3 have outside of jazz
>>342477356
>>342477385
Funny considering none of you have formulated a proper argument yet. Keep linking people to hour long YouTube vids on an imageboard instead of discussing guys, great job.
>rented it on 360 when it was new
>damn nigga this is awful
>buy it for $10 on a Steam sale years later
>damn nigga this is awful
Must not be for me.
Same pattern applied to Borderlands by the way.
>>342477672
I thought you didn't care.
So you really are butthurt over criticism of 3.
>>342477597
Multiple jazz songs that appear with equal frequency to keep the radio appropriately varied, unlike NV which was almost 100% Johnny-fucking-Guitar. Say what you will about NV, but it had shit radio compared to 3
>>342478102
That doesn't sound biased at all.
Shame there weren't any regulators in New Vegas or something.
>>342478313
there are
they're called the Rangers
>>342458859
FO3's replay value is pretty tiny.
FNV at least has interesting things to discover on new playthroughs.
>>342478313
What is New Vegas Bounties?
Fallout 3 is trash and it was always trash. People liked it because the setting was original to them and they had absolutely zero standards for writing or world building. The "new" "original" setting and goofy setpieces spread all around the map were sufficient to impress them. And of course, there are always going to be people who were 12 years old when they played it who will never be able to accept that it's anything other than a classic masterpiece.
>>342477949
I don't. 3 is mediocre and feels very limited compared to NV.
>>342475452
3 > NV
get over it
>>342478619
All of that is literally wrong
You must be absolutely retarded to actually post that without even considering the material.
>>342478619
This picture has never worked.
The damage control for the story fixes nothing.
>>342475876
>Siding with Daniel
>Ever
Even fucking Daniel doesn't think you should side with Daniel.
>>342478619
>posting old debunked pictures
this is how desperate 3 fags
>>342478619
>head-cannon
>b-but patches
hilarious
>>342471849
Mothership Zeta was my favorite because I'm an ayy enthusiast.
>>342478819
But I want to do something else this time.
>>342478619
This image is a mess.
The first part is a bunch of excuses that just plug up plotholes, but don't actually make the story any better.
Then there's some completely irrelevant console vs. PC shit. Which is ridiculous considering that fallout 4 runs like dogshit on consoles.
Then there people listing the names of locations in fallout 3, which doesn't prove that those locations are "cool".
Why did anybody bother putting this together?
>>342462209
>never ever enter into any subwaytunnel
>don't do the main quest
That leaves you with like 50 locations and 10 sidequests
>>342467720
because gameplay is not important in an RPG.
>>342479068
>Why did anybody bother putting this together?
Desperation
>>342478214
And your posts aren't? Word of advice, don't throw stones in glass houses
>>342478619
Just play tale of two wastelands.
>>342478313
>Hello, we're a bunch of jerks in trenchcoats. If you kill bad people and bring us their fingers, we'll give you money. We want to see the wasteland cleaned up.
Okay, I guess that sort of makes sense? I'm not 100% sure where they're getting the money, although I suppose they could be claiming the stuff they steal from evil people who stole from good people so they can pay other people to kill more evil people.
>Hello, I'm Mr. Businessman. I have a business I need businessed. You must bring me the ears of good people. I'll give you money for good business, because business is my businesses business.
Thanks, Emil.
>>342479068
Why, for the same reason I'm saving it my dear. Shit-posting.
>>342479205
How are mine bias?
I said NV's radio had more variety because it had multiple genres, and you reply with dumb shit like >>342477476
>>342458859
I tried but the gunplay and world are too garbage, even liked Fallout 4 but 3 is unplayable
>>342458859
FO3 is objectively a better game then NV. everybody liked it a lot, and it was goat when it came out.
>>342480212
>then
Fuck off and die.
>>342458859
its genuinely the worst game I have ever played, every other bethesda game is OK but fallout 3 is shite, rabid shite
didn't even play the original fallouts and i dont care about fallout lore because fallout lore is SHITE, but fallout 3 is a horrible game
>>342480212
Fuck off and die.
>>342480312
>>342480379
obsidiot learning to post
>>342480378
This desu, the guns felt like an oblivion mod and I cant remember a single character that didn't feel like it was written by a retarded 6 year old kid, and my fuck that dialogue was just cringe and shit, 3 DAAAAAAAWG LOL LMAO, fucking hell what a clusterfuck.
And I was excited as fuck to explore D.C ruins but they ruined, they fucked it up even more than Obsidian fucked up the strip, invisible wall rubble and sewers fucking everywhere ruined what could have been THE only good thing about fallout 3.
Shit gameplay
Shit quests
Shit story
Shit characters
Shit rpg mechanics
Worst AAA game ever made.
>>342480775
Also forgot to mention:
>shit world
Just a litter box with shit thrown into it.
>>342480606
>can't read the post timer
>newfag bethesdrones
I did a second run trying my best to enjoy it and I could only take something positive from a small town were it was implyed they were cannibals. That was the only remotely interesting and well written thing in the whole fucking game.
It sucks.
>muh atmosphere
>muh music
IT SUCKS
I enjoyed it until I played NV, and then realized how bad it was by comparison, especially in terms of writing.
>>342475452
listen, 3 and NV are on equal terms, their pros and cons equal out.
2 > NV > 1 > 4 > Tactics > Shelter > dog shit > BoS > rotten dog shit with spilt 30 day milk on it left in the sun to bake > Fallout 3
This is fact thanks for reading and agreeing.
>>342480970
>the small town full of cannibals
>"well written"
>>342480979
>especially in terms of writing
when will this "obsidian is good at writing" meme stop? they aren't better or worse than any other dev.
>>342480909
kill yourself retard, or even better, go play NV for the 1000 time, you might have missed a bug that you can admire
>>342479540
wait how do they know where the fingers come from? couldn't someone just kidnap people and lop off their fingers?
I personally like it a lot more than NV. Dunno why, but it just hooks me. NV never really did much for me.
>>342481142
I disagree.
2 > NV > 1 > 4 > Tactics > Shelter > dog shit > BoS > rotten dog shit with spilt 30 day milk on it left in the sun to bake > being drenched in fetid shit in a sewer > Fallout 3
This is the correct ranking.
>>342481173
>when will this "obsidian is good at writing" meme stop? they aren't better or worse than any other dev.
They're better than Bethesda in any case. Some characters say smart or funny things, have defined character and you get the sense of being in a living, breathing world because of it.
>>342481173
Their writing is a million times better than that of Bethesda.
>>342478102
So just jazz, fuck off you werent discussing the "frequency" of the music but the genres available
>>342481347
I also disagree
2 > NV > 1 > 4 > 3 > Dog Shit > Shelter > Rotten Dog Shit > BoS
>>342481589
As long as 4 and the main series are above 3 I wont argue with you
>>342481572
To be fair a blind retarded orangutan with parkinsons flailing at a keyboard would produce better writing then Bethesda. I don't think it's possible to produce worse.
What's the deal with NV fans being completely unable to ignore troll posts?
It doesn't matter how blatant it is they still seem to go for it.
>>342481709
modern bioware? in bethesda's defense they don't even try and bother to write their shit better
>>342481750
Because they care a lot about NV but no one cares about 3 so every ebin trole focuses on them
>>342458859
I was enjoying it until I started navigating DC ruins.
Then I remember part of why I couldn't stand long sitting of 3.
>>342481165
I almost use those quote marks myself. It's not well written, but it's better than anything else in the game.
>>342478619
Added in your own reaction images because no one else gave a shit, nice!
>mfw I love Skyrim and Fallout 4 but cant stand Fallout 3
It doesnt feel right because by all acounts I should enjoy it and I tried to get into it over 7 times but I just cant.
>>342481392
>>342481572
>>342481709
beth never gave a shit about writing. It's like saying nintendo is bad at graphics.
obsidian on the other hand fail in the thing they strive the most, fucking autistic retards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F0DFwCQFZA
>>342482509
>RPG company
>"never gave a shit about the writing."
And we come to the root of the problem.
>>342458859
I liked FO3 for what it was, a departure from the old games.
I put lots of time into it. I just didn't enjoy, NV. It wasn't bad, realistically it was the better game but I was one of the people who dealt with constant crashes, my save getting corrupted and other nonsense. I just didn't enjoy it. I couldn't kill whoever I wanted, when ever I wanted, there were loads of weapons and upgrades but I never actually needed to upgrade my weapons.. where looking back at FO3 you realize the was a lot of empty space.. In NV there was a ton of content that just didn't serve a legit purpose.
>>342482650
I think the best thing bethesda ever did was focus on making fo4 a shooter rather than an RPG
spergs chimped out hard but bethesda cant do rpg, turns out they can do a shooter
>>342458859
I honestly love all the fallout games 1-4 + New Vegas being my favorite next to 1.
>>342462139
>>342466310
I can guarantee these are the same people who go on about how comfy NV is. It's okay when they do it though.
>>342482986
>I couldn't kill whoever I wanted
That's funny because you actually can. New Vegas gives you total freedom to kill absolutely everybody except Yes Man (and Victor, although he'll die offscreen if you kill Mr. House) and even Yes Man can be killed while he laments about what a failure he is for making you shoot him, he just pops back in a new body shortly after. Fallout 3 on the other hand has half the fucking NPC's set to essential.
>but I never actually needed to upgrade my weapons..
It sounds like you didn't get further than Primm.
>>342482994
>turns out they can do a shooter
>fo4
when did cancerous newfags like you start invading this place and polluting it with your objectively shit taste and wrong opinions? go back to whatever forum you came from
>>342482994
They "chimped" out because any fucking company can make a shooter FO4 should never of just been a shooter.
>>342482994
Fallout 4 has passable shooting mechanics at most, and that's just comparing it to Fallout 3
Compared with any other half-decent dedicated shooter it's absolute shit
>>342482650
you have no idea what role playing is, no wonder you like obsidian.
>>342483431
Okay, what is roleplaying?
>>342483295
this is what I mean right here, bet you this sperg thought fo3 was a 10/10 and a great rpg
>>342483316
Yeah and bethesda will never, EVER, be capable of making the fallout rpg that YOU want. What's so hard to understand, idiots?
>>342483395
its better than call of duty and nu-battlefield for one
NV came out too soon after 3.
That's the biggest mistake, that and the fact that Obsidian hired a team of apes to do their coding.
>>342483463
having the ability to make your own story, and your own character.
>>342483481
what the fuck are you talking about, kid? because fo4 is shit that means i think fo3 is good? you're like 15 years old if that's your line of thinking. gb2reddit, tumblr, gamefaqs, whatever
>>342483271
I beat the entire game. You're getting awfully agitated because I didn't like what you like. The fight in the dam is boring no matter which side you choose and going completely neutral is just a waste of time. Siding with Ceasar turns you into a self absorbed slaver. Siding with the NCR makes you a government funded patsy and going neutral just keeps shit how it is. It wasn't a bad game but pretending you need to upgrade is laughable. You should just stop.
>>342484031
you're the one sperging out because I stated bethesda focused on the shooting aspects rather than the RPG aspects as they should because they have proven over and over and over and over again that they cannot make a decent RPG.
Textbook tumblr behaviour, if I went there and called a womyn weaker than a man I'd get the same answer as I got from you even though both of my statements are fucking fact.
>>342475746
>pretentious
Is this what people think something that isn't the depth of a puddle is?
Is not being incompetent at making an rpg pretentious?
Is having better writing pretentious?
Is having more and better questlines pretentious?
>>342458859
Tried playing it again recently and it lacks anything to engage you, going to Megaton means nothing no one there and nothing matters, nothing but a breadcrumb to find your dad. I quickly got bored and stopped playing.
Probably because it allows you to blow it up later and Bethesda didn't want any negative consequences for the player if they made any kind choice.
Compare that to Goodsprings, what you do there can turn a faction that wanders the surrounding area hostile, friendly or neutral, many times when you find a new town you have to consider who's side you want to be on, the consequences and what you get out of it, 3 does none of this.
Bethesda doesn't know shit about rpgs, only sandboxes and they never get better only worse with every title.
>>342458859
It's good with mods
But then again that's Bethesda games motto
>>342458859
The settlements and npcs are fucking terrible. And the radio DJ is an annoying dipshit even SJWs hate him.
>>342484405
>It's good with mods
No, it's not. FO3 doesn't have anywhere near good enough selection to make this applicable. The best you can do is TTW it.
>>342484220
and the shooting mechanics in fo4 were not good you neo /v/ faggot
>behaviour
>u
ahhh yes, it all makes sense now. stupid yuropoor newfag cancer
>>342479032
Blow off Follows-Chalk's head, go get the survivalist rifle and armor, then book it
>>342484665
dude you have mental issues
Liked all of them minus 4 .
It was less of an rpg than 3/nv
>>342484804
get off of my fucking board you stupid yurocancer
>>342485081
no
also fallout 4 shooting mechanis were good and fallout 3 is the worst game of all time :)
>>342469681
>world design
Stop right there.
The world design is actually pretty excellent, especially compared to 4 and NV.
There's variety in the map (wilderness to the north, suburbs+ Commercial areas to the south, urban environment to the east, industrial areas and caverns to the west) and, unlike NV, there aren't any invisible walls or level locked areas that force you down a single path.
Fallout 3 was a good game-One of Bethesda's best. It's just a shame that FO4 proved that FO3's quality was a fluke.
>>342473525
Reminder:
Mr.New Vegas > Travis >>>>Three Dog
Fuck Three Dog and his "good fight" BS
>>342473669
It's almost as if Three Dog is a character with a biased viewpoint whose words shouldn't be taken as gospel.
>>342473951
Here's where 90% of the hate for FO3 comes from.
Those who hate the game didn't actually pay attention while playing it.
>>342485813
3 world design is a litter box with shit thrown in it though
even 4 has better world
>>342469579
Your post, word for word, exactly matched what someone IRL who basically built their entire teenage identity around fallout 3 said to me when I told them 3 was shit, and was a spit in the face to the entire fanbase of the originals.
Said person was a trendfag who thought that everything 50's greaser was the shit, and didn't actually play the originals, just said they did because it made them 'cool' and gained them points on tumblr.
Fallout 3 was shit, but it was the autistic fanbois who made me hate it with the passion of the sun.
>>342486235
I just hated the gameplay
>>342470551
You're right, most of the NPCs act like they're from a bad TV show. For me it was the absolute worst part of the game, every character was just very annoying.
The worst is probably the Railroad faction, every other character was either comedic relief or an absolute cliche. It was so bad I just couldn't stop myself from killing them all when I first met them. Best part was none of them were essential NPCs.
But yeah the people seem to have modern values and wouldn't feel out of place in the 21st century. Everything else in the game I can deal with, but this.
>>342462084
NV=2>1>3>Tactics>BOS>Aborted Fetus Juice>4
>>342482650
He's right you know.
Even Morrowind was never had particularly great writing.
Bethesda's goal for all of their games is to create sandbox games with RPG elements.
>>342486543
nv > 4 > 3
>>342486251
NV was had the worst nonsensical world ever. it had nice lore and all, but the actual execution was shit.
>>342458859
is there a mod where I can side with autumn? This is the one thing that actually bummed me out about fo3
>>342486747
nah it was decent fallout 3 fanboys just cant grasp that rpgs aren't designed for you to be able to go anywhere without having to face stronger shit
no matter what you do and say 3 will never have a reedemable world because of d.c so w/e
none of you fucking retards would be talking about fallout, or hold your contrarian bullshit views on NV if it weren't for fallout 3
>>342487283
that doesn't mean I cant hate what's possibly the worst non shit budget game ever made
And for the record I hate NV too :)
>>342486885
You do have to face stronger enemies in 3 though.
You'll get wrecked if you go to places like Old Olney and the Deathclaw Sanctuary without preparing first. Mirelurk Hunters can also seriously do a number on you if you're backed into a corner.
As for DC, it's possible to finish the entire game without ever going there.
>>342486882
Why would you want to side with Autumn?
The majority of the Enclave wants him dead.
It's much safer for you to be a double agent for Eden.
>>342487436
>the worst non shit budget game ever made
You clearly don't play a lot of games if you consider FO3 to be one of the worst.
>>342488141
I do, though. There aren't many big bugdet games that are worse than fallout 3
maybe haze or fable 3 but even those at the very least are playable
>>342458859
FO3 had best atmosphere.
New Vegas is the better game though.
4 was cancerous plastic shit.
>>342458859
Fallout 3 is literally the only game, the only piece of media in fact, that gives me that autistic flare of "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE" that most of /v/ suffers fromwith literally everything.
Not so much when people simply say that they enjoyed it or liked the atmosphere, I did too before I tried to replay it as an adult.
It's when people say it was better than New Vegas, that it had such a "deep open world", that the story was great (or even fucking serviceable), that the DLC you had to buy to actually finish the game was sooo good, the characters were so memorable, no game has come close to its level of quality since, etc etc etc reddit bullshit, that's when I digivolve into an aspie.
It's such utter shit with so few redeeming qualities that I'll just never understand why it's so highly regarded outside of /v/. i cannot imagine how butt devastated I'd have been if I had played the first 2 games back in the 90s, seen the Van Burren project cancelled and handed this shit 10 years later.
>>342486395
That's what I thought.
The voice actors in 3 and NV weren't spectacular, but they didn't act like people today, they didn't really act like anything. Which is preferable over the "Uhh, yeah...?" we get today.
>>342488276
>Fallout 3 is unplayable
The game only breaks if you use auto-saves.
The 7 playthroughs I've done of 3 were all bug free because I saved manually.
>>342488579
Mainly because for a lot of people it was their first open world game and rpg. I'm in the same situation and keep in mind I actually like bethesda games. But fo3 is just an oblivion mod with professional voice acting
>>342488794
I meant gameplay wise its unplayable
>>342487283
3 made it relevant again by making a new one and dumbing it down, yeah. NV is still far superior and could've been better if not for Bethesda's shitty business practices.
is fallout 4 really that bad
>>342458859
I love FO3's world and ambience, but NV's story is infinitely better.
>>342489182
It's the worst of the new Fallouts.
It's easily ten times better than Fallout 4 content wise and atmospherically. I don't understand why there has been so much hype over Fallout 4 but there was barely any credit given to Fallout 3 which was the first Bethesda Fallout (Open World RPG) and in my opinion, was easily a more fulfilling game than Fallout 4. Also to all those cucks who played FO4 before FO3 and any other Bethesda Softworks OW RPG for that matter, shut the fuck up you have no credibility in the matter so go sit at the kids table the adults are trying to talk.
>>342488041
he's my husbando ;____;
>>342489182
its a complete downgrade from 3 aside gameplay which is fucking magical if you ask me
