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Fallout 4 Thread

Daily reminder to ignore Obsidiots

Oh I'm sorry I came to the anti fun /v/ universe where people don't like fun in video games and hipsters are rampant my bad
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>>342417747
WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS
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>>342418121
Bethesda remade the universe because it's more fun than the original shit.
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>>342418245
No they didn't tho.
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I am growing concerned.
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dude you gotta nuke boston in order to save it

because the punchline is nukes

dude nukes lmao
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>>342418289
They did tho. NV is boring.
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>>342418293
I'm guessing you got way into the settlement building. You can easily waste several hours at a time doing absolutely nothing that way.
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>Atom Bomb Baby
>Crawl Out Through The Fallout
>The End of the World
>The Wanderer
>Uranium Rock

LMAO GET IT, IT THE POST APOCALYPSE 50's , NUKES LMAO
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>>342417747
game feels a bit boring. has brief moments that draw you in, if you take a liking to things like weap. modding, p. armor, settlement editing, etc.

dialogue arrows is bad, too many pipe weapon shit, rads is bothersome, followers dislike too much, and playing hard, so bullet sponges everywhere. the dragged out battles because of sponging really makes the game appear shallow and unchallenging
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>>342417747
>torrent Fallout 4
>damn this is shit
>only thing that makes it bearable is Curie
>about to hit alt+f4 and uninstall
>Curie says she wants to become a human
>wait what
>do her quest
>she comes back as qt3.14
>it's possible to romance her
>mfw
>shit story
>shit quests
>shit gameplay
>only keep playing for her
I need VR-Fallout 4
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>>342419781
DUDE WHAT IF WE HAD LIKE

A SHOULDER FIRED CATAPULT

THAT FIRED MAGICALLY TINY NUKES THAT STILL SOMEHOW STILL PRODUCE A MUSHROOM CLOUD
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>>342417747
Everytime i try to replay this game i get to the point after i kill Kellogg, i say hi to the Prydwyn and then my interest just dies
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>>342420135

That sure sounds crazy.

It's not like it's inspired by a real concept or anything right?
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>>342420059
>I need VR-Fallout 4

You honestly need a life instead.
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>>342420251
where the fuck do you think you are?
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GUYS THE 50's!
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>>342418293
I enjoyed Fallout 4 for about 15 hours yet have 195 hours on record because of how much I tried to make settlements and the minutemen bearable with mods

Nothing but regret
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>>342417747
I like it.

The gameplay is fun, although I wish you could have Survival-esque lethality and still fucking fast travel

Dialogue wheel is shit, I'm impartial to the voiced character.

Factions were generally interesting, although naturally AD VICTORIUM

Enough to do in the world but it's too squashed together.

Far Harbour was good enough, but the rest of the DLC weren't great. Nuka World is gonna be the best
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I need some decent FO4 mods.
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>>342420226
I don't recall any nuclear catapult weapons.

Maybe you were thinking of the three man recoilless rifle weapon system that fired a nuclear warhead like artillery at targets between 1.5 and 2 miles away.

And it was carried by vehicle.

Hmm, what was the name of that one again, anon? Because it has fucking nothing to do with a Fatman.
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Trying to remake junktown but even spectacle island is too small cluttered and full of hills. Any suggestions?
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4 has better gameplay, atmostphere and a better world than NV. Everything else is trash but its bethesda so it was expected
still fun though.
Even if it was a masterpiece the vocal minority on /v/ would still hate it because its popular
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>>342420226
Yeah, a tripod-mounted piece of artillery with a range of 2km that never saw deployment because it'd drastically accelerate nuclear proliferation and devastation.
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>>342417747
fallout 4 is just boring m8
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>>342420605
Atmosphere? Better world? How so?
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>>342420605
Nv is better overall, but Nv tends to bore me more than FO4. In my eyes, FO4 is better, but objectively it has nothing on NV
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>>342420595
Sunset Drive-In?
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>>342419950
it took fucking modders to make a mod which simply scales damage based on difficulty so harder difficulties come with a damage bonus on both sides and not just for the enemy with a penalty to you
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>>342420605
sure is summer in here. let me guess your first console was a 360 and your first rpg's were fallout 3 and oblivion.
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>>342420846
>he likes the game but admits it has faults
Literally retarded, amirite?
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>>342420638
>>342420451

Right, because a shoulder mounted version with less power and range for the sake of gameplay is so much further out there then power armour that was designed to replace tanks.
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>>342420595
sunset drive in+improved scrapping mod
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>>342420605
I like fallout 4 but no way in hell does it have better atmosphere than nv. New vegas actually felt like a continuation of the atmosphere set in 2 which is way better than 3 or 4
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Really tried to like the game, the shit stat system, boring characters (sans Curie) and retarded speech system.
Gunplay, character creation and crafting is great tho. Too bad it couldn't carry the game
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is it just me or are the Loading screens a little long sometimes? im on PC.
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>>342421019
Are you Pete Hines? You sure sound like him.
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>>342420768
>>342421024
Way too small i believe but thanks for the suggestions ill definetly try it there again with the mod
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>>342421019
In a world where nuclear devastation is an ultimate, existential fear and widely seen as a complete and total last resort (before and after the Great War), why the fuck would anyone develop a Fat Man?
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>>342420310
Apparently at the edge of the pit next to the sign saying "A Lifetime of Despair: Mind the Edge" with you at the bottom screaming about waifus.
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>>342421227

I don't know, why develop nuclear weapons in the first place?
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OP faggot your thread isn't off to a good start from the get go if you have to blatantly bait and troll people like that.

>>342418245
>>342418993
Look at this patheticly cancerous baity shit posting.

If this thread was personified as a Fallout entity, it'd be a Centaur but with more random eyes, mouthes and mucus oozing everywhere..
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>>342421383
Because people didn't know what they'd do? It's why we've devoted so much effort to getting rid of them and why many involved with the initial project deeply regretted it.
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>>342420059
>>342417747
>>342418293

>be me
>get xbone for falloot 4
>play stealth and melee
>think to myself "this will be even better than vegas"
>stealth is glitched as fuck with the cameleon armor and there are no fun perks for melee.
>everyones faces look like shit and the story is garbage
>break xbox and drink bleach but survive
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>>342421019
The smallest nuclear weapon ever devised was a one-man 50 pound static emplacement explosive. You parachuted down in enemy territory, planted the thing, then ran like fuck because nukes are kind of a big fucking deal and it would easily wipe out several city blocks. Again it was never actually used in any capacity.

Maybe Bethesda should stop treating nuclear warfare like a joke.

I would absolutely and fully accept the Fatman in the lore if firing it even once immediately killed the fuck out of you and everything else in the entire cell. That would be a proper combination of dark humor and crazy-and-stupid science present in Fallout. The magically tiny nuclear explosions we get instead are both retarded and lorebreaking and a lot of things survive them just fucking fine.
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>>342421556

And you're comparing the real world to the US military that thought FEV and the Vault Experiments were a great idea?
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>>342418293
>have 397 hours played
>all I fucking do is explore over and over and build shit

It's my most played game on PC now. I don't like this feeling.
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>>342420059
are you me?
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>>342421772
FEV started off as a military project to protect the population from Chinese biological warfare.

Contrary to what Bethesda tells you, FEV is not super mutant juice.
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>>342420417
Anon you need to be more specific than that. There are hundreds and hundreds of mods for FO4.
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>>342420059
Good taste anon
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Fucking F4SE hasn't been updated yet and I'm not sure if I actually have to wait for it to continue playing with my modset.
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>>342421939
Gameplay mods
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>>342417747
Fallout 4 is an OK game.
However, It is the worst Modern Fallout game.
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>>342418293
>Waaat what I'm gonna do, I'm playing a game /v/ hate

Stop this. Play whatever you want.
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>>342417747
If Todd Howard took a shit on a plate and handed it to you would you faggots eat it?
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>>342421772
FEV wasn't even an issue until they started doing extremely unethical, secretive testing that prompted an immediate revolt from those who knew about it. The same goes for the Vaults - it was done in secret and was utilized as a contingency against another threat. That's not in any way comparable to a weapon that actively accelerates nuclear proliferation and encourages the use of retaliatory nuclear strikes.
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>>342422039
THEY FuCKING FARCRYeD iT. it was a normie game with no rpg elements
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>>342421989
Is F4SE still steam only?
That was the worse bullshit in the modding community so far.
What about us pirate bros?!
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>>342421341
ur funi
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>>342422127
Does this shit have a new engine?
If so, Maybe.
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>>342421158
>>342421024
There are also mods that removes settlement limits. Combine both mods and you can completely scrap Sanctuary and rebuilt it from the ground up. However, scrapping buildings and some hedges will cause occlusion culling issues, so you'd have to plan around that
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>>342422229
Yeah, I can aggree. However, I did find myself having more fun than I feel like I should have had.
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>>342422127

Depends on how well mods can polish the shit.
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>>342418293
You clearly enjoy it, senpai
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>>342422269
The shit is coming out from a modified older anus that they claim is a new anus

>>342422406
There is not enough shit polishing rags because subhumans keep stealing other people's rags
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Fallout New Vegas >>>>> Fallout 4 > Fallout 3
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>>342420226
>>342421019
>>342421772

The problem here is you're mixing up the actually well designed setting and concept of the original Fallout series, with the superglue and duct-taped together "Dude wouldn't it be cool if..." hodgepodge of total horseshit and nostalgia pandering brand recognition that is BethesdaFallout.

Its an easy mistake though, I don't fault you for it.
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>>342422374
i wish i could say the same. I guess it is hard to follow new vegas tho
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>>342422027
Full Dialogue Interface
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?

Easy Hacking
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/266/?

Enclave X-02 Power armor
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11017/?

Take Cover
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10875/?

More Spawns
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4253/?

Better Locational Damage
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3815/?

Anything else look for yourself, I've spoonfed enough.
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>meet piper for the first time
>safe game
>unload shotgun into her
>reload
>she talks to the major
>safe game
>unload shotgun into her
>reload
>meet her later at the mayor's office
>safe game
>unload shotgun into her
>reload
I can't be the only one?
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>FO3 states that Liberty Prime was unfinished during the Great War
>FO4 states that Liberty Prime was fully operational and deployed in Anchorage before the Great War

What did Emil mean by this
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>>342422804
>tfw the Dialogue mods just make me aware of this fact

Fallout 4 makes Skyrim's dialogue look good
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>>342423057
that pic sums up falloot 4
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>>342422604
If that is the case, I will stick it in the refrigerator until a Steam Sale, And eat it with the GOTY DLC.
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>>342423057
In an extremely rare instance of self awareness Todd recently said in an interview that they're aware that everyone thinks they dialogue system was dogshit and admitted that they got it wrong.
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>>342423303
Fallout 4 doesn't have good DLC though
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>>342420251
Hey everyone, get a fucking load of this dumbass.
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>>342417747
Why are there supermutants in boston?
Why cant i talk to anyone
Why cant i resolve anything peacefully
Why do i get end game weaponry and armour within the first 30 minutes
Why are aliens cannon
Why has no one fixed or done anything after 200 years
What does "Sarcastic" even mean
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>>342417747
>not even the first post in the thread and you're already butthurt
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>mfw I enjoyed Fallout 1, 2, 3, NV and Fallout 4, playing over 200 hours each theres nothing you can do about it

Feels good to not be a raging autist like you faggots.
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>>342417747
>wants fun
>tries to deny a group of people who enjoy one of the games entry

nice try
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>>342424049
Okay, good for you I guess?
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>>342424049
You beat the hivemind, you win!
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Is it possible to make settlements good yet
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>>342422374
That's alright, Far Cry is also not that great of a game, but still fun. Nobody really wanted that, though.
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>>342424470
I use a combination of Snap and Build and Homemaker and I'm satisfied for now. At least my settlements have proper fucking homes with roofs now instead of tin huts.
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>>342422870
I never shot her, but damn, Piper was an annoying twat that made me avoid the whole city in general (sans mutfruit orchard)
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>>342421019
Yes, it is. When you think about it, powered armor that provides immunity to small arms fire would make tanks redundant in a world where oil reserves are scarce. Not because they could necessarily go toe-to-toe with a tank, but because they are able to be mass produced and used on a far greater scale than tanks could be, giving them a quantity over quality advantage.

It's like the Tiger tanks vs the T-34. The Tiger was an extremely powerful weapon, but its complexity and cost proved to be its downfall. By comparison, the T-34 was simple, rugged, and easy to mass produce, and ended up being one of the most important weapons of the war.
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>>342421946
>>342421889
>>342420059
>Thoughts?
>I find myself eager for the night
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>>342420059
NEXT year anon. Get your vive ready.
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>>342418293
650hrs, nigga my fallout 4 now tops 1.1k hours. Its gonna hit 1.2k by this week if i kept creating new characters after each building tools update.

Start new, scrapall, console insert shipments, start build. Ive lost count how many char ive created.
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>>342422039
How? Best gameplay. Main problem is lack of content.
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>>342425395
>THIS POWER
>LOOK WHAT I'M DOING
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>>342425610
>horrible companion and enemy AI
>spoonfeeds Power Armor, a Gatling gun, and a Fatman very early on
>no misc dialogue or even the ability to talk to people unless it's a shop owner or for a quest/cutscene
>ugly graphics
>terrible story
>forced backstory
>dialogue "choices" that all have the same result and sometimes wording
>uninteresting characters
>linear quests
>implying best gameplay
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Show me your raifus
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This game isn't even fun. It's just straight up boring.
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>>342417747
>roommate buys game
>play while he's at work all day two days in a row
>go home for summer the next day
FUCK
I was unironically enjoying it
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Synths were a wasted potential
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>>342423804
You are most likely right, But hey, If I am gonna eat shit, I might as well go all the way!
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>>342417747
>>342418245
Just repeating "fun" doesn't really help.

If you enjoy a game, go ahead and do so. I'm sure it has some improvements on its predecessors mixed in with all the flaws /v/ loves to bring up. Why not talk about those rather than calling people wrong without further elaboration?
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>>342426096
The series in general after FO2 went to shit, FO1 and 2 live in their own bubble, they are good games by those years' standards and they do nail good story and gameplay (Your taste may vary but they are good turn-based games)

The Fallout series is set in an interesting universe with a lot of potential, but none of the 3D games manages to get a good combination of gameplay, story and RP elements. The one that gets the closest to a good game is NV.

But to me this series is one of the best examples of "missed oportunities", it reminds me a lot of the TES series wich share the same problem

The fact that you have to mod the games so much to have a better experience just tells me that maybe it wasn't that great to begin with and that there was a lot of missed potential that modders thankfully brought up
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>>342426603

nice blog

>>342426750

they're replicants for retards
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>>342421574
>>everyones faces look like shit
shit taste weeaboo detected
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>>342425913
what ps2 game is this?
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>>342425610
Couldn't have said it better myself. (And the story is mostly trash)
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>>342426750
Sounds like something a Synth would say IMO
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>>342425610

>best gameplay

so gameplay just boils down to shooting for you does it?
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>>342425913
>the ability to talk to people unless it's a shop owner or for a quest/cutscene
Shit I knew this game was missing something but I just couldn't put my finger on it, I'm glad I'm going to replay New Vegas again
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>>342426992
Bethesda has shit human modellers though. 4 is better than NV and 3, but not by a whole lot.

Which is strange considering that Skyrim's humans look... human.
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I would like to think that the whole "Power Armor + Deathclaw fight" Was part of the E3 Demo, And they left it in the game on accident.
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>>342427147
You can't prove shit
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>pipe weapons
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>>342427226
The Gunplay felt really good, Like each wepon had weight to it. It was better than NV, But NV trumps F4 in almost every other way.
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>>342427396
I remember Bethesdrones speculating the Minutemen were just a one-off organization with a few quests and that Concord was this late-game area. Man, how wrong they were.
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>>342427470

what a sore loser
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>>342427567
Modded NV gunplay blows 4 out of the water, though. Obsidian has a much greater appreciation for actual guns and designed a better framework for their implementation.
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>>342427567

>weight

not really
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Why can't Obsidiots and Bethesdrones be friends? I like both of these fanboys.
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>>342427567
>Fallout 4
>good gunplay

In what universe do you consider casings literally boomeranging back into the gun after you fire as good gunplay? I'd post the webm but I didn't save it.
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>>342427754
Yeah. I can aggree with that. But as part of the base non-modded gunplay F4 is better than NV.
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>>342427934
Why the fuck does visual shit matter if it feels fine? Literal nitpicking counting pixel level shit.
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There is nothing fun about Fallout 4
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>>342428076
The rightest nigga in this thread.
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>>342428069
>disliking shitty gun animations and boomerang casings is "nitpicking" now
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>>342427934
I'm gonna be real here, It has been a long time sense I last played F4. So I might be wrong, But I do remeber that the gunplay felt better than NV. Once again, I could be very wrong.
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Fallout 4 is the shittiest of Beth's clusterfuck of shitty games post-Morrowind. Fuck off.
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>>342428218
Morrowind isn't very good either. Bethesda wad never good.
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>>342420417
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3642835-ultimate-fallout-4-mod-compilation-100-working-mods-with-installation-instructions/

Found this to be a nice collection.
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The series turned into shit after FO1 and 2. Let's be real, you have to mod the games to hell to have fun, how can anyone pretend New Vegas is that good of a game when every anon i see has what could probably be over 20GB worth of mods, same goes for FO3 and 4's players

Just admit that the games are BARELY above average experiences, i think the only reason why everyone still gives a shit about FO is because of the interesting 1940's post-apocalyptic futuristic setting
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>>342428201
It is, you whiny faggot.
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>>342428795
Anything is nitpicking to a Bethesdrone like you.
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I enjoyed, not amazed by though, the game in my 40ish hour playthrough. I did everything I could find, except the settlement and building bullshit in the main story, and stopped. I will likely not go back, even with mods.

Same as Skyrim, except I got atleast 80 hours worth of content in Skyrim. Skyrim just had a ton more content. FO4 had a lack of weapons and quests, its worse than FO3 and NV
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>>342428854
Okay Obsidiot.
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>>342428854
>bethdroneswew

Nah man, i dont take sides. Face it, you're a nitpicking whiny faggot.

Go play arma, i bet you hate ghost recon and island thunder because you can't see your gun. Oh wait...you can't, id be mad too if i can't.
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Honestly, Fallout 4 was disappointing because of how lazy it seemed. I was ready for a terrible story, cardboard NPCs, bugs out the ass and terrible quests. It's a Bethesda game, what did I expect? What bothers me about the game is the little things. Like the dialogue "options" being functionally the same. Like the settlement builder being substituted for the fact that there are only 3 towns. Like the fact that the same settlement builder only allowed you to build ramshackle shitty shacks.
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>>342417747
fallout 4 had the best gameplay, best experiences, best missions and even obvioulsy best graphics. everyone else has rose tinted glasses towards the first few in fallout history.. nostalgia blindes them too hard or they are just too old to get over the 1 and second one WHICH ARE GARBAGE. turn based is garbage, birds eye view is garbage, and computer only games are GARBAGE!
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>>342429053
If you want to try to say criticism against a game with a 5.4 score is nitpicking then go ahead, shit eater, but I can go ahead and give in-depth reasons why Fallout 4 has terrible gunplay like I can any of the other reasons why the game is a shitstain.
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>>342429203
Neo /v/ hipsters brigading metacritic and steam reviews isn't legitimate criticism.
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I honestly can't blame Obsidrones for disliking Fallout 4. It is pretty boring and mediocre, but that is to be expected, Bethesda Fallouts were never good. Bethesda Fallouts always focus on exploration.
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>>342429198
Tod? Is that you?
You can tell me if it is.
I wont tell......
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>>342429198

Nice grammar faggot
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Fallout 4 is a bad game. Not just a bad Fallout game, a terrible fucking game. Just about every single aspect of it is underwhelming at best, but completely broken garbage for the most part.
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>>342429491
>Every Fallout game, including 3, has a good Metascore
>Fallout 4 doesn't
>B-BUT MUH HIPSTERS
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>>342417747
What's there to discuss in fallout 4?

>new vegas
>"Which faction was the most right?"
>"Which ending is the best?"
>"What build should I go with for my next playthrough?"

>fallout 4
>"hey..remember that time I attacked that camp and killed those raiders...or helped that settlement"
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>>342429504
>focus on exploration
>oh look another rusty tunnel with ghouls
>gee this draugr ruins that looks exactly like the last one seems interesting
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fuck me /v/. I killed Danse Danse Revolution because i was really getting into purging the wasteland with the Brotherhood and got really drunk on le ad victoriam memes, but now I miss my man candy.

>yfw ps4 and no definite launch date for mods
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>>342421227
>>342421678
NUKES ARE SRS BUSINESS GAIS
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>>342428076
Wrong
Power armor and Settlement building are fun, but that's pretty much it

However Fo4 does have a lot of good ideas

Settlement building
Everything about Power Armor
Quick Loot
The way guns control
Building robots
Face sculpting instead of sliders
And I guess it doesn't actually have that many improvements now that I think about it
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>you can only cook with dirty water even though you have purified water in abundance
bravo Bethesda
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>>342420451
The absolute madmen
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>>342420135
>THAT FIRED MAGICALLY TINY NUKES THAT STILL SOMEHOW STILL PRODUCE A MUSHROOM CLOUD

You don't need a nuke to make a mushroom cloud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvLz5hZKi9A

Many small to medium sized explosions will produce a mushroom cloud. It's just particles flying up in a certain way. It can be done with a variety of explosives.
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>>342429862
>power armor
>power cores last a few minutes
>constantly having to repair/maintain them

No thanks

>settlement building is good
>can't even build a simple box house without some kind of exploit
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>>342429862
>Face sculpting instead of sliders
Any remotely worthwhile system either uses sliders/slider derivatives or offers you a choice of both.
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>>342421227
>why the fuck would anyone develop a Fat Man?

To kill people in power armor.
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>>342430124
Call me silly, but that micro management is fun to me
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>>342430206
Only the US had Power Armor, though.
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>>342429862

I find the workshop element to be overly tedious and hollow. There is absolutely no reason to progress. I really do not see the appeal.
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>>342429862
To be fair, the gun skills being switched to perks was a good move too. Imagine a fucking FPS and your shots accuracy are determined by fucking mc skill not the gun and the player itself.

Thats the most fucking horrible shit ive hated with 3 and NV.
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>>342419781
Every time those songs came on I just pictured Todd winking at me like "see what we did there?"
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>>342430274
I can't stand micro management in RPG games. The game is time consuming enough as it is, and the menu system/UI in this game is also especially fucked making it even less fun. Does Bethesda have something against convenience/intuitiveness?
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>>342430290

I think it would have been more rewarding if you built one house, your house. Then maybe a npc trader would set up shop out side your house because you're so plentiful with caps and always need gear. Which leads to more traders showing up, a bar being built. Farming houses follow. As you progress through the game a community is built around your base of operations and a town flourishes due to your deeds. Instead of this just pick up everything you see and build garbage huts.
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>>342420846
>people enjoying game I don't

mu... must be summer in here!
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>>342427934
Literally all games do this. The bullets you reload are the same ones leaving most of the time. Or if it's a magazine the character just puts the same mag back in
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>>342429987
By purifying you removes the authentic wasteland taste thus its not tasty anymore.

>>342430124
Hey, this is next level shit. While you're at it, you want to have unlimited ammo on pistols and no reloads like the old shooters. You want cars that wont have procedural damage, you want unlimited fuel too, you want no headshots or limb shots.

>>342429993
Kuwabara kuwabara

>>342430290
Then dont build, play the story, if its shit, give it a 0/10 points and critic on the steam page unless you're a pirate then too bad.

Brb gonna ask pete to plan the next fallout.
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>>342429651
>Fallout 4
>"Which faction is the most right?"
>"Which Ending has the most positive results for the Commonwealth"
>"How I should I play next playthough?"
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>>342430895
Okay, but none of them except Fallout 4 have it where you can literally see the casing boomeranging back into the gun at high FOV or third person. It's even worse in VATS.
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>>342430947
>Then dont build

That's what I did, but it's still a part of the game and I can certainly give my opinion on it, especially when it was given as much attention as it was.
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>>342430947
>Hey, this is next level shit. While you're at it, you want to have unlimited ammo on pistols and no reloads like the old shooters.

DOOM 2016 did this well though.
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>>342431000

>All factions have inane logic
>All factions have the same impact besides one
>I can do everything at the same time
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>>342431000
>which faction is more right

Nigga, no factions is right unless you're playing weeb games. Positive is personal perspective, pete and i gave you the freedom of choice for the end game.

I tell you whats right, kicking obsidian's in the nuts.
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>>342431330
>pete and I

Found ya Todd.

Psst:
I pirated Fallout 4 and 3
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>>342431169
So you want doom, please buy a few more for your friends. This gave me an idea, me and pete might bring fallout universe into the doom series then we remove fallout entirely, streamlined into one.

No reloads, no powercell, no conversation, no rpg, no mercy.

Yeah...it'll work. Lemme talk to tim, time have some ideas of streamlining doom and quake.
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>>342431536
Wait what ? No, im Robb. Me..and uh my guys are modders. Yeah..modders !
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what is the point of this thread
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Even with the Silence is Golden mod, this game is unbearable.
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>>342431792

trying to replicate NV threads but 4 is just too shit
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>>342431792
Oh the thread is about how we make the next fallout based on our vision. It'll work, buy the game, play it, hate it or love it, criticize and join it. Make it new.
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Has Fallout 4 been out long enough to have good mods made?
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>>342432013
Well because fallout 4 player base is babies, unlike the autis......fantasticly experienced players in NV threads.
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Failout 4 sucks! Obsidian should be in charge of fallout!

a-am I c-c-cool yet g-guys?
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>>342432143
It does ! Did you see the giddyup buttercup armor mod ? We made it for the oblivards so they don't feel left out, we even have the old cowboy west rifle as dlc to cater the retar....determined players of NV !
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>>342432182
>>342432379
>>342432520
>Bethesdrones in full force
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>>342432379
Now now, dont be rude. We cant hate other people because they play what we hate, even though i do hate them. I'll make a mod to fix em and not whiny-peeny.

Now start modding with that rage.
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As far as I can tell the /vg/ thread just calls them obsidiots for bringing up the topic of NV vs 4 constantly and not because they genuinely think 4 is a better game than NV. Right?
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Gameplay wise, NV >>>>>> 4
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>>342432642
Oh hi there i see you played with the conversation mod there. Good for you !
Bethdrone ? I have no idea what are you talking about. Me , pete and time is interested in making a doom mod with fallout contents, so on future we no longer need conversation or even mods for it ! Isn't that great !!?
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>>342432812

yes /fog/ is just cancerous enb mod and waifu faggotry for 4
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>>342432995
Mr.Fantastic please go
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>learned how to minimax FO1/2
>learned how terribly flawed skills make SPECIAL
>these flaws are even worse in some ways in 3/NV

Arguably the SPECIAL system could be called better than previous games in some way but completely gutting skills I feel wasn't the right choice.
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>>342433065
I cant, im too excited. Whenever i see a NV vs 4 thread i feel like ive almost wet my pants ! Maybe i do ! Hah, its so fun watching auti....ultimate fans from NV and 4 ditching their ideas repeatedly, its so enthusiastic like they have nothing else to play, which is amazing !!
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What is best graphical mod of Fallout 4 terrain and environments?
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>>342433362
So caring about basic lore is now autism...
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>>342430662
>Literally the most baby casual 'RPG' in history
>Does Bethesda have something against convenience/intuitiveness?
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>>342433362
>>342432995
>>342432182
>>342432731
>>342431650

[spoilers]Why are you toddposting without the images?[/spoiler]
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>>342417747
>>>/vg/
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>>342433295
>skills

Hey there, i agree wholeheartedly.
However the skills was brainless with the shooting mechanics as you control the player's shooting skills. Fallout 3 was known to be oblivion with guns, i presume you did not play oblivion or even morrowind. Ohh the wonders of NOT hitting the same mudcrab for days just because your skill is low is amazing !!

Lucky enough, fo3 was a minefield when we implemented shooting with skill tied it. It could have been horrible if the leads goes east and west once exits the barrel.
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>played through new vegas 3 times
>didn't finish fo4 a single time
>still liked fo4 more
I think I liked the first run of new vegas, but when you go through it a second time and realize nothing you do matters it sucks the soul completely out of the game.
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So I'm currently working on an overhaul of the Minutemen.
What my mod will do is put gang slaughtered inside of the Concord Museum only leaving you a brutal scene to witness. Lady Murphy is skinned alive and hanging from a chandelier at the main entrance. The junkie kid will have a bullet through his head. Marcie is decapitated and naked, her head serving as a chamber pot. What is left of Sturges is on top of a pyre of melted tires and Preston has been disemboweled by spikes. What do you guys think?
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>>342433470
no one plays video games for the story, you autistic piece of shit
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>>342433936
Removing content isn't much of an overhaul.
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>>342433982
Yeah. I just play to get sick frags with my kill gun!
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>>342433470

Whoa there, i did not brand anyone with the A word, i have the tendency of mistyping or misspelled words. However i am sure the A word wasnt part of my vocabulary.

But i can tell you the fans from both sides is aut...amazing !

>>342433649
Todd ? I'm Rodd. I don't feel save posting my picture here, well because of strange reasons someone always auti.....mistaken me for someone else even on the streets .
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>>342434190
What's your last name, Rodd?
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>>342433982
No, but they broke everything 2; 3 and NV tried to make
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>>342433773
Nigga I'm talking about how I can go 1 strength and be able to do over a thousand points of damage with a minigun by have an extra 20% in big guns or tell him to kill himself with 1 charisma.

3/NV got rid of the tradeoff of 1 charisma by letting you have a companion no matter what.
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>>342433295
If you'll remember Fo1/2, skills have a certain threshold where further investment becomes increasingly expensive. You can fix SPECIAL just by tying that threshold to the skill's respective SPECIA + your raw LCK.
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>>342434305
I dont usually do share name, but in this case my name is Robb Calvert then my gangs peter himalaya, and timothy jimbo.

>>342434451
Hmm i do see your point, maybe the next fallout will have companions that perma death. Yeah...they not just requires speech check, they need to to fed and tucked into bed too ! Gee golly ! This is exciting, i sense there will be mod of that soon !
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>>342427660

If anything, Todd is actually pretty down to Earth and very welcoming of criticism from players / communities / things people don't like about the game.

They built Skyrim almost entirely off of complaints people had about Oblivion, and mods people made to improve things like archery and stealth.

They just need to stop streamlining the fucking rpg mechanics. Stop removing shit that doesn't work, and fix it so it actually works next time man.
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>>342430124
DSP pls go
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>>342435206

Got a big boner for Todd there do you buddy?
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>>342433936
If Sturges is dead, how am I going to get into the Institute, assuming the Railroad is already dead and I'm an enemy of the BoS?

>lol then don't do that

Already dropped.
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>>342435320

No. Just stating my opinion based on the few interviews I've seen with the guy. He's not a total fucking moron. He's a good project lead held down by a bunch of lazy fucking programmers and a publisher that probably forced them to finish FO4 in a 2 year window.

Contrary to popular belief, FO4 development didn't start until around the end of 2013, and started with them porting Skyrim onto next gen consoles. They had just barely 2 years to get FO4 out the door.
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>>342435320
Who doesnt ?! He's got that suave looks even though he's a manl...gentlement as hell. Plus even people hates his game keeps brining up his name ! My wife and our daughter keeps a picture of him next to the bathroom door, whenever we see him we tend to get better bowel movements for no reasons, but our butt do hurts after that though.

My neighbour hates him but gee, he always have a picture of him in his hand when he beats his wife and his step son !
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>>342435391
Well for starters anon, sturges cant die because the developers made him not to die. If permadeath is what you want then you have role played a person who is stucked in a limbo crossroads !

Gee, dont drop the game, story is just a small part of it ! If sturgest is dead then i presume you can use the same method you enabled npc death , its simple and it works ! Haha !
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>>342435071
True enough, but the main problem I had was that because PA/APA you only needed an extra 20-40% of a gun skill to get perfect accuracy with any gun at 1 strength. And that charisma is a dump stat unless you use companions, which were shit in FO1, and in FO2 Navarro and the Oil Rig discouraged using because they would blow your cover.

I just find it funny when people act like FO1/2 had good gameplay mechanics when its strength lies with its world and the dialog, especially comparing it to other CRPGs of its time.

I bet most of /v/ don't even know what a 1Hex is.
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>>342437096
Early game though companions were a real help, especially if you were a more social character. Also Sulik in fo2 was my bro, dealing over 100 damage before we even left the den.
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>>342437096
Fallout NV did not have issues with that, id rather play NV over the older fallouts.
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>>342421082
this, is like a pain to play it.
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>>342430573
The soundtrack picked for Fallout 3 was so good, that they reused it for 4!
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>>342440747
>Implying they couldn't have gotten more if it wasn't for lack of development time
>Implying metacritic is even a good way to tell the quality of something
>Reminder that fallout 4 got an 84 on metacritic
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>>342429198
oh the ironing
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>>342441015
>Implying they couldn't have gotten more if it wasn't for lack of development time

They had more than a year to work on a game with preexisting assets. They were basically just making a fucking Fallout 3 mod.

Obsidian has no excuse. They're an embarrassment.
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>>342433936
What do I think? I think another settlement needs your help.
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>>342417747
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
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>>342441702
Not one said it is, they just said its oblivion with guns, not rpg with guns.
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