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Legend of Zelda Framerate Test
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tl;dw it's 720p, 30fps with dips

https://youtu.be/mtfbm0HDhiU
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Make sure to pick up the NX for 1080p/60 goys!
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>>342396552
Make sure to buy Xbox Slime/Scropio and the PS4Neo for that 4K 1080p HD 3D LED goyims!

That was easy.
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even their wind waker HD remaster on the wii u dips BELOW 20 fps.

the wii u is straight up a shitty piece of hardware - even nintendo knows it.
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I've been getting massive slow down with TP HD in some sections.

Wii TP never had that issue.
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>>342397814
That pissed me off because it's the explosions

And guess what cannons make, and there's up to 8 of them at a time firing
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>>342396552
There's no way nx version will be 60
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OoT ran at 20 fps
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>>342397814
it doesn't matter how shitty wii u is, when majority of wii u's players are children who can't see the difference between 10fps and 60fps.
Wii u has like 2 decent games and even those are crappy jrpgs, but it doesn't matter because retards will buy turds coated with gold, if it just says supper mario
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>>342396208
Goddamn, I wish more companies would focus on performance instead of graphics. But good performance doesn't sell as well as good graphics...
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>>342398452
also i wonder when the geniuses in weebland decide to remaster already remastered zelda games. that would put even todd to shame
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720p plus shit graphics and still cant even archieve 60 fps, yet stable 30 fps

if the nx is also a shitbox, they finished
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>>342396208
>i do framerate test on livestreams

Ah, so this is the hourly shitposting thread ?

I'm surprised thats not the usual image
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>>342398185
Nintendofags confirmed having lower standards than Sony and Microft fans
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>>342396208
Thank you framerate bolice, i almost had fun, better go back to master race games like overwatch with glorious 20 tick servers and nothing else really.

Who started this framerate police meme?
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Ocarina of Time is the best game ever and it's 20fps. Games don't need higher than 30.
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>>342398596
It's not the graphics though, it's the draw distance and open world gameplay. So for once, the performance bottleneck isn't due to graphics.
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>>342397657
you are trying too hard buddy.

>Bloodborne and Zelda run at 30FPS
>This is somehow bad
How autistic do you have to be for this to be a problem? And this comes from a guy who has played pc games all his natural life.

I played Halo 3 at sub 720 with a HD tv back when they were a novelty and it was FUN.
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>>342399153
Ocarina of Time isn't even the best Zelda game.
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Why are these threads being posted when every time it comes up somebody mentions how terrible the direct stream quality was and how off-screen recording showed a much better FPS and overall look for the game?

Sure it didn't fix shit like pop-in but still, its a massive improvement.
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ITT: idiots complain about fps in a STREAM.

You guys are beyond retarted.
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>>342399039
Do you enjoy playing games at shit framerate>
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>>342399282
>i-it's ok with 30fps
>i-it's ok with 30fps and dips
>i-it's ok with 20fps because graphics matter!
>i-it's ok with 15fps because cinmeatic experience
>I pc bro g-guys
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Report and hide shitposting threads, anons, do your parts.
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>>342399032
>Microsoft fans
No such thing.
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BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>342396208

When did it came out? i dont remember.
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>>342396208
>framerate counting on a live stream
Jesus christ holy shit my sides.
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>>342396552
I really really really don't understand why they are going with the Tegra X1. If the NX is supposed to be a handheld it doesn't make sense because they literally just released a "new" 3DS and if it's a stand alone console it still doesn't make sense because the X1 isn't powerful enough to compete with the RX480 equivalents the Scorpio and Neo are going to us.

Nintendo has worked with AMD in the past, nothing is stopping them from using normal modern hardware. I literally don't know what the fuck they're doing over there.
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Now I can use one of your favorite counter argument:
>0fps on Ps4
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Usually games that dont look good run at 60fps 1080.

This doesnt look good, doesn't run at 1080, doesnt even stay at 30.

I don't get what people see in this. It doesn't even look fun.
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>>342396208
This looks biased as fuck. At the E3 stream the game seemed to regularly dip to 20fps.
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>>342396208
0 fps 0p on ps4 m8, enjoy :^)
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Honestly, it's a goddamn marvel this steaming piece of garbage hardware is even running this game.
I can't imagine the amount of shortcuts and tricks they had to come up with so it doesn't run at 1fpm.

I'm a Nintendrone btw, so my opinion is legit.
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>>342400671
If it was on PS4 it would be 1080, and 60 fps.

so it's okay.
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SILKY SMOOTH ROCK SOLID 20 FPS

>consolefags will defend this
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>>342400889
>if
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>Framerate test on a fucking stream.

That is fucking stupid, and they are just doing it for views.
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>>342396552
Yes, because the evil jews at Nintendo don't WANT you to play games at 1080p 60fps. They're INTENTIONALLY making games perform like shit for PROFIT.
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>>342396208
Silky
Smooth
15 fps
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>>342396208
>framerate testing a stream
come on atleast get a demo unit hooked up
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>ps4cucks so jelly of zelda and xenox they now have to cherrypick the framerate of a fucking stream
>a
>fucking
>stream

its ok bros you'll get your second game in a couple of years its ok
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No anti aliasing of any kind
No anisotropic filter
720p
20FPS drops

This is a 2017 video game.
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>>342401424
>B-B-BUT SONY

It is 2016. There is no excuse for an action or adventure game not having a stable 60 fps. Bloodborne and BotW are not exempt from this. This is a goddamn shame.
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>>342401756
>starts bloodborne for the 102th time
>he-he t-those d-dumb nintendrones he-he
>we have games!
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>>342398104
This.

It MIGHT be 1080p, but there's no way in hell that it'll do 60FPS.
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>Testing a stream

Jesus fucking christ just when I thought sonyniggers couldn't get more retarded
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>>342396208
I expected as much, it's a Zelda game after all. No home console 3D Zelda has ever ran 60fps. This will make for some shitposting material for the next 5-6 months regardless though so that's nice.
I am a bit cautious though since it looks like they weren't capturing the gameplay themselves and are instead using the Treehouse footage.
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>>342398452
>LoZ remakes with gold boxes
>Gold Mario amiibo

Accurate.
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not saying the game will be good but
>one more year at least of bug fixes and development
>using footage from a livestream
>nx version which might be better
i mean cmon
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>>342400656

If anything, it's biased favorably towards Nintendo. Usually the Digital Foundry guys are pretty harsh on any console game that doesn't achieve a steady 30fps. But for this one, they're like "i-it's actually not that bad y-you guize, if you compare this to other PS3 open world games."
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>>342400486
Is it possible they're finding a crazy way to make a new pseudo system with an upgrade like pic related?
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>>342396208
Zelda has always been 30fps
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>>342401453
That's Neshitendo for you. A fucking disgrace how low Nintendo has sunk and what pieces of cutting-corners cheapskate lowest effort turds they have become.
Despicable.
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>>342396208
Unplayable.
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how are they reading the fps from a video stream? that seems kinda impossible
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Isnt there already a Wii U emulator? LoZ games are never anything to rush to and an NX emulator will be out quickly
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>>342401756
>it's current year argument

Nigga, here's how the real world works. Not everyone is a autist eating PC master race memes and while there are benefits to smoother framerate the mainstream doesn't care, the mainstream market wants prettier graphics, 60fps has never been a selling point it's only natural devs are prioritizing graphics.

On a side note, I don't get what is so unplayable with 30fps? Plenty of exceptionally good games are running at 30fps. Plenty of shit games are running at 60fps. Zelda is a fairly slow game, it's fine in 30fps and sacrificing graphical fidelity in order to improve performance would be detrimental.
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>>342402127
But that's so dumb. Both Microsoft and Sony are essentially using the same GPU this coming "half-generation" so it doesn't make sense for Nintendo not to jump on the bandwagon. The Polaris architecture is a humongous achievement for high-performance budget graphics technology and was the literal inspiration for Sony to release a new console mid-cycle.

Nintendo needs to just make smart decisions instead of fighting the current like they have been the past decade.
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>>342401962
they just cant handle the salt and need to take a page out of the pcuck book, cant even do it properly roflmao

REMINDER that zelda than top 3 sonycuck franchies put together
REMINDER that a pcuck franchise is more popular than sony's top franchise
REMINDER that smart people bought a wii u and didn't fall for the ps4 meme
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>>342400889

> PS4

> 60fps

What the fuck are you smoking? It boggles my mind that Sonyggers would be behind a framerate shitposting thread.
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>>342398452
>majority of wii u's players are children
I don't think so Tim
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>sonygger boogyman left and right

Good thing sonyggers are the ones actually obsessed with framerate and resolution and are the ones constantly visiting Digital Foundry and posting their videos here to make consoles look shitty right? It's definietely the sonyggers hehehe
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>>342402539
y-yeah us "smart" people, r-right?
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>>342402292

Do you even comprehend that the shot you are comparing it to is *literally* a cinematic?
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>>342402458
>Nigga, here's how the real world works.
>uses "nigger" like a nigger
>tries to defend Shitendo
I didn't even read past that.
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>>342402673
>there are more literal gramps than actual children
This looks almost fake.
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>>342402673
Not him but wouldn't parents need to enter their own information when registering? Meaning those statistics are skewed toward parent's average ages?
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>>342402768
Oh, so we cinematic now?
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>>342402732
yeah bro totally the pcucks that take it to the youtube comments and got arseravaged and had to downboat people that rated zelda above last of war. pcucks also downboated ign uncharted review for giving it a 9

face it your salt has reached critical levels as wii u stays relevant and you cant get your second fucking game properly
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>>342402924
If that was the case wouldn't both first age ranges be at 0%?
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>>342402939
Why do people keep posting this? That top image is concept art and wouldn't even make sense in a video game that's in motion. It's also saturated and sharpened all to hell.

>inb4 something something butthurt something something

I literally just don't understand how people could think that top image as an in-game bullshot.
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>>342402939

What is that supposed to prove to me?

That a blurry stream capture isn't as good as a screenshot from a trailer that wasn't in-game footage?
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>>342402971
>as wii u stays relevant

Until Cemu is functional
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>>342403249
>that falseflagging ps4cuck asshurt
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>>342402924
The ages that make the majority of that chart are too young to be having children and those that did around that age probably would not have kids old enough to be playing video game just yet.

Plus the majority of the people there are male, on average it's mom who buys kids their video games.
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>>342403052
why would they be?
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>>342403098
>I literally just don't understand
That's because you don't know what concept art is.
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>>342403052
It basically is at only 6%. I got a credit card at 13 and bought things on my Wii, so the 5% of teenage players makes sense. I'm also sure there's SOME banks out there that would let a toddler get a limited credit/debit card. But you have to admit 94% of WiiU store customers being 18 or over seems a little off.
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>>342400486
Nintendo used to """"work"""" with third party publishers too, believe it or not.
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>>342401879
Once again consolefags proving how little reading comprehension they have. I thought Nintendofags were alright, but nevermind.
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>>342403329
its true though

Did you forget about Dolphin?
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>>342403360
What is it then? Because it looks like art that pitches the concept of that game.
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Reminder that all the upcoming PS4 games that Sonyggers are excited for will be 30fps with drops:

> Dad of War
> Horizon
> Last Guardian
> Shitty dead rising clone

3-0 F P S
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>literal 18 fps
whoa.......... this is..... nintendo....innovation
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>>342403547
>> Last Guardian
I stopped caring ages ago. Should have just died quietly
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>>342403249

> no online

So I guess never then.
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>>342401947
>>342398104
These! The whole point of consoles is to sell low-cost game-specialized computers made with the cheapest parts they can. They have very little to gain by switching to 60fps. There's a good reason why gaming computers tend to cost a lot more than a game console
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>>342403098
>I-It's concept art!!!
>I-It's cinematics!!!
>I-It was never going to look like that anyway!!!


>inb4 something something butthurt something something
you just described yourself
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>>342403475
dont kid yourself your ps4 cant run it
>>342403547
>games
>3 fucking movies and a 4/10 game
>we have games!

cant wait for the salt though
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>>342403653
>no online now means never
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>using the stream

>which was confirmed to cause drops and confirmed that offscreen is better

Analyze the off screen data fuckboi
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>>342403720
>2006
>1920*1080
wut
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>>342403739
>PS4
>Dolphin
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>>342403798

Not happening boyo.

Cemu devs have said they aren't interested and it's a closed source project. This isn't Dolphin.
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>>342403720
Except I never said any of that and that picture you posted couldn't be cherrypicked harder. That's an emluated TP with HD filters.
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>>342396208

>muh frames

I forgot every video game that didn't come out within the last 5 years is absolutely unplayable.
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>>342403512
this is concept art
the screenshot posted was from the game engine which makes it a bullshot
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>>342403229
Nintendo claimed it was in-game footage. Thats the problem.
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>>342404183
This is also concept art, they come in all shapes and sizes. If that was posted from the in-game engine it's the idiots who didn't see the obvious shopping, over-saturation, and sharpening who are butthurt. I literally don't even know how a game like that is supposed to work in motion. Everything is WAY to close together and weird looking for that to be a working game.

Nobody thought it would look like that.
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>>342404587
Forgot pic
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>>342403670
That's not entirely true. Mid range to high range parts will drastically decrease in wholesale/bulk purchases.
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>>342404237

Where? Also:

> keeps posting screencaps of a framerate test done on a stream

Like I care m8.
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>>342396552
>implying NX won't just be running in Wii U mode to play it
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>>342404713
Why do you think that helps your argument at all? That is actually a piece of art, the other is a screenshot.
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>>342404237
Compression and encoding. Your argument has no merit.
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>>342404729
each new generation does seems to be pushing this strategy a bit further. nintendo seems to prefer keeping their console cheap in comparison to the others, though.
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>>342404954
Because it's the same fucking idea. There's no way that image is in-game, just like that image you posted couldn't be in-game. Whether they used the engine or not to render it is irrelevant. You would have to be literally retarded to think a game that looks like that would run on the Wii U or any system.
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>>342403098
Some random person online photoshopped it. This is what the original looked like. Still obviously a bullshot.
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>people picking apart a Zelda game this much

ms getting into consoles and roping along these autistic faggots was the worst thing to happen to video games.
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>>342396208
>framerate test from a twitch stream
I can see why /v/ is considered the most retarded board
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>>342402971
YOU WON, IT'S ALL TRUE
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Who /notgiveashitabouttechicalaspectsaslongasitsplayable/ here?

It could be 480i 18fps for al i care
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>>342405397
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>>342405219
One is a drawing to create the concept for a game during it's development.
The other is a screenshot from the game engine advertising it as what the final product looks like.
They're not comparable at all.
It's literally the definition of a bullshot.
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>>342396208
Not to be that guy. But how the fuck is this in any way reliable when they're doing the tests on fucking stream footage instead of raw output from the game itself?

You're supposed to be better than this DigitalFoundry.
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>>342402539
REMINDER that WiiU owner can't play majority of the games at E3 hence they can only talk about the new Zelda and Cowtits which quite pathetic really while gamers from other platforms has several games that they are interested in which is why their social media activity are scattered to several games.
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I'm sure people will freak out about this, but every Zelda is 30fps, not to mention most console games in general, especially open world console games.
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>>342406153
Most wii u owners own more than one console.
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>>342401453
>No anti aliasing of any kind
Why do you outright lie?
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>>342406007

>It's ok when Nintendo does it
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>>342405917
The only difference between the two is that one was hand-drawn and other uses a 3D engine to render it. I literally can't find the source now saying that Nintendo said that's what the game would look like in motion, so I think you're getting upset over something that was never even said.

If this were a Watch Dogs or Dark Souls II situation, they people would have a right to get pissed. But that's not what's going on.
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30 fps seems like it's way too high, it looks weird and does strange stuff to your eyes. I'd prefer a rock solid 24 fps just for a more epic and immersive experience.
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>>342406153
But the majority of games at E3 are on PC. And even though I have access to them, I still don't want to play hardly anything from E3.
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>>342406257
No, most Wii U owners own a PC, making other consoles irrelevant.
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>>342406007
You can tell when the game drops a frame because when you skip through the youtube video frame by frame the same frame from the game will be repeated twice but the video footage in the top right will have changed showing it wasn't the stream dropping frames.
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People are defending this Zelda the same fucking way they defended the last Zelda.
>T-t-thats just the demo and the stream, its gonna looks so much better when released!
>Cel-shaded is good! Wind Waker is a masterpiece and its cel-shaded!
>Twilight Princess is bad! If you like Twilight Princess' graphics over this monet like cel-shading, well, you're just some grimdark faggot! Why don't you go play Majora's Mask and fuck off!
>Thats so innovative! I'm so hyped!

Skyward Sword sucked, and so will this.
Once again Zelda team and Miyamoto is trying to make different and innovative = good.
Last time it was
>look, they leaves! We we're inspired by Monet
>Look how innovative the Wii Motion Plus is!

This time its
>Look, its HD this time!
>We threw in survival and building elements like other games!

I bet the story will be shit, it'll look bad when playing like SS did, have little to no replay value. I bet all the good Zelda tropes will suffer for the sake of the new shit.

>Inb4 stop liking what I don't like
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New drinking game

Drink every time someone tries to defend how shit it looks by blaming it on the stream
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>>342406797
to be fair, wind waker does look pretty good yet, on a CRT
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>>342406564
>but the video footage in the top right will have changed showing it wasn't the stream dropping frames.
Did they really check that throughout the entirety of the footage though?
Besides we don't even know if both feeds were using the same technology nor what set-up they used.

Everything appears to refer to the game regularly dropping below 30 fps when things are happening on screen. I've got no doubts about that.
I am just saying that there can very well have been drops from the different feeds independently from one another, before the feeds were even merged or forwarded to twitch etc.

It's still pretty darn stupid. Not worthless, it does give you an estimate. But anyone seriously arguing that doing performance tests on live streams like this should just stay quiet.
You aren't supposed to do performance tests on fucking live streams. There is a reason for why you go for actually respectable equipment before doing performance tests if you want them to be respectable.
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>>342405219
>>342406357
The Tomb Raider drawing was a sketch made before the game was even, made as a concept to use so the people making models/textures etc for the game know what it's supposed to look like.
BotW is advertised as the finished product. They're not comparable at all.
They're screenshots, that's what they're advertising what the game is going to look like.
You can't put something fantastic looking in the shop window, and then when you buy it and it looks like shit say "well you'd have to be retarded to think it would actually look like that".
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>>342406296
It's right in the DigitalFoundry tech analysis. It has no anti aliasing or ap filtering. None. Zero.

Might appear in the final game, but not in the 2016 build.
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When they couldn't even get WWHD, or TPHD running without drops, I doubt they'll get a giant open world Zelda to run at a good framerate.
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>>342408007
I'll just play it on cemu at 60fps for free.
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>>342397337
nobody cares about 4K
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>you will never be this desperate to shitpost
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>>342398806
it's going to be a repackaged Wii U just like the Wii was a repackaged GameCube.
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>With no anti-aliasing
How come it doesn't look like this?
It's a serious question. Could someone please explain?

When I play Final Fantasy on my PS2, or Xenoblade on my Wii, the lack of AA makes it look like ass. It looks like this.
The Zelda doesn't though. It appears to have far less aliasing, but supposedly it still doesn't have any AA? So why does it have so much less aliasing? And what made the older games have so much of it?
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>>342396208
Is the most important thing in the next couple of weeks ago by the way to get the best way to get the best way to get the latest in my head of state of California for you guys think about it and we started reading
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>>342399638
Do you enjoy eating shit because it has more frames?
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>>342402939
Why do people keep posting these?
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>>342408158
>cemu

You'll be waiting a while then.
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>>342396208
>those comments
It's literally okay when nintendo does it, isn't it?
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>>342408007
>literally 1 frame
How can nintendoinks defend this travesty
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>>342408942
>>342409082
nice damage control

>it's the streams fault it looks like shit! that's why there's no grass at all, object pop in, and frame rate drops during fire and explosions!
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>>342410315
>damage control
It's not damage control. This >>342402939 and many others being posted, are literally doctored imagery.
If you want credibility, at the very least use unaltered resources.
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>Nintendo isn't about graphics, it's about performance and gameplay!
>performance is complete garbage, gameplay is rehashed and of poor quality

I've been fooled by every single Zelda prior to this. Not again Aonuma.
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Zelda: Finally entering the year 2003, kicking and screaming
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>>342410456
yeah if someone hadn't made the top half look shitty and oversaturated they would look identical!
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>STOP BEING EXCITED
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>>342410315
>no grass meme
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>>342411151
Play any of the generic open world schlock released since open world was formulated and you'll get an idea of how it plays
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>>342405397
How is this MS fault?
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>>342411395
Xbox is the only reason consoles got PCalized
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>>342410990
No. And I never claimed that they would. It would however hold truth to it at that point. Which the edited comparisons do not.
Or are you seriously arguing it's not incredibly stupid to photoshop your comparison images? Especially when you don't even need to?
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>>342411339
Is this supposed to be an argument? Because this game has an open world, it's just like every other game with an open world? Is every game with turn based battles the same? Is every game with a first person perspective the same? The least you could do is wait until the game releases before you parrot the same baseless judgements on it like every knob-licker on /v/
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>>342412531
All open world games are barren and sorrowful. Not so with turn based battles or first person perspectives. Open world necessitates a kind of design philosophy that so far has seemed to be impossible to break out of. There just isn't enough time and money to make everything feel special and designed properly when they need to create that much real estate.
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>judging the frame rate of a demo of a incomplete game.

?
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>>342413091
Welcome to /v/. You must be new here.
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>>342396208
Now they are on par with PS4 and Xbone in terms of frame rate and resolution.
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>>342413002
> All open world games are barren and sorrowful.
Just like real life then?
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>>342414762
Yes that is why we desire to escape from it
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>>342403670
To be fair, the majority of Wii U exclusives released with 60fps.
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Anyone else excited to do 360s on their shield?
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>>342415118
Now imagining Zelda lying on a shield having sex with an Xbox360
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So it is, in fact, okay when Nintendo does it?
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I've noticed during the livestream that the game's FPS dips real bad when there are either allot of particles, or weather effects going off.
Fire seems to slow things down when it really gets out of control. It dips down to about 10fps for about 2~5 frames.
Provided that the NX is stronger than the WiiU, it should run better, but if they just straight port it to the NX without touching-up the engine a bit to utilize the NX's hardware, it would run the same, if not worse. (Anyone remember the game breaking bugs in Twilight Princess?)
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>>342396208
To be fair, optimization usually happens at the tail end of development. It's quite reasonable to expect some degree of improvement, though whether they can get it to a constant 30 is anyone's guess.
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>>342415692
Here's a question: why not tone down the particle effects or remove weather effects?
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>>342415619
http://www.metacritic.com/game/nintendo-64/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time
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>>342415692
>Anyone remember the game breaking bugs in Twilight Princess?
What do those have to do with particle effects?
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It's over, Zelda bros.
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>>342410456
Technically, you can't judge a game's frame-rate until you have it in your hands, and are recording and FPS checking your own direct feed.

When game footage is live-streamed, it's compressed. This means some frames are lost during compression that makes the game seem jittery and unstable.

People have run into this issue with Youtube videos and Live Streams of Uncharted Primal for example.
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>>342396208
The dips are intentional. They add a layer into the gameplay that enhances the effects of the explosions or large effects. Don't you guys know anything about game design?
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>>342416538
If he's still excited for the game despite the framerate drops, why should anyone else stop being excited?
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>>342416775
Does real life have frame drops when explosions go off?
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>>342417092
You're making a good case for 120 fps or 140 or whatever
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>>342417092
OK. Tell me then anon; which one looks more like an explosion? Don't kid yourself.
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>>342417153
Well technically, your brain spends a longer time capturing information during something chaotic like an explosion so yes. The framerate drops match the same expressions of an explosion
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>>342417252
I have a 144 and it's finally smooth
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>>342416249
>What do those have to do with particle effects?
Nothing.
I was simply stating that a dual launch may have game-breaking bugs.
Twilight Princess was a direct port from Gamecube to Wii. Performance wise, it was about the same. But the game had some game-breaking bugs because they didn't have time to properly bug test the game during dual launch.

I honestly don't give a shit if Zelda: BotW runs at 60fps or 30fps. It's a swansong title for the WiiU, and I have no plans on shelling out for the NX if Nintendo is going to (yet again) have under-powered hardware, and if NOA is going full SJW-Nazi censorship.

It is disappointing that it does chug though, seeing how they had this game in development sense 2013.
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Please God let the NX be backwards compatible, I can't stand FPS lower than 30 and I want to play other Wii U games
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>>342417548
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>>342418023
>I can't stand FPS lower than 30
Do you like OoT?
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>>342403653
>implying there's a single Wii U game worth playing online
>implying there's anything worth playing period beyond Bayonetta 2

Go put on your squid costume you fucking toddler.
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>>342417923
>I honestly don't give a shit if Zelda: BotW runs at 60fps or 30fps.
Fwamewate is vewwy vewwy impowtant
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>>342418282
I understand that FPS is very important.
I've tried playing Fallout 4 on my potato and I've found out that if a game's FPS drops below, about 20, it negatively impacts player input by ignoring some inputs entirely.

But at this point, I'm just glad they they are at least releasing this on the WiiU and NX so I don't have to shell out $$$ for a new system.

It's Nintendo. This is par for the course for them. They believe in "gameplay over performance". It's gonna hurt them real bad and make them be the next SEGA.
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>>342418178
Yea, I do.
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>>342398452
>supper mario
>game where you have to make sure you eat every evening
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>>342409438
It already has games running 100% perfect (Twilight Princess for one). Won't be long.
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>>342418530
But it runs at 20 fps and somehow you stand it
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>>342402649
>60fps
>What the fuck are you smoking?
If zelda was running on PS4 with the same graphical quality it is now, then yes, it would be able to run at 60fps
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>>342396208
While it will most likely be 30fps simply because its Zelda, trying to make a framerate test off a stream is pure shitposting, especially for a game that isntbeven finished development
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>>342418813
>what is nostalgia
I played it when I was like 8, back then every game had shitty fps, if I'd play the original OOT on a N64 today, I'd probably have a hard time.
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>>342416538
>projareds picture makes him look like a man rich in etiquette and refined tastes
>really just a pretentious cunt who always looks like "something is good but could be better"
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>>342419219
>trying to make a framerate test off a stream is pure shitposting
>I don't know how they did it so it's lies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVg19CbkXR4

Watch that video, you fucking dumbass.
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>>342419227
PC has done this to you. PC has destroyed your ability to have fun.
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>>342396208
>720p
>30fps
>awful pop-ins
>shit art style

Heh. Kidtendo will continue to fail until they accept modern technological standards. I hope the NX flops and they go purely software.
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>>342396208
>people on /v/ are quick to try and shit on the game because it has popin and are quick to blame the hardware
>ignoring that its a demo, has 9 months of dev time left for optimization assuming they havent started that already post whatever build they used for e3
>Game will probably have an option to install assets to HD like every other modern game of this type and XBX.
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>>342420520
We all know games only look and perform worse and worse the closer they get to release. No way will this buck the trend.
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>>342397337
Nope, no need. Ps4 base model is still going to be supported the entire gen, whereas nintencucks are REQUIRED to buy an nx for future games.

Good goy.
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>Nope, no need. Ps4 base model is still going to be supported the entire gen
What level of fps counts as "supported"? At least 18?
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>>342421506
>that image
How many layers of irony are you on right now?
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>>342402292
I'm all for bashing the shitty graphics but at least use a direct screenshot instead of weakening your own bait with off-screen footage from something that was significantly earlier in the dev cycle. I expect better from you.
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>>342405264
Is it really though?

Footage from the demo floor shows that the colors of the game are alot closer to that screenshot contrary to what the treehouse stream showed with washed out colors. The Grass in that picure is definately in the game and flows just like it did before albeit the shading looked different at e3, more of a gradient. And the Demo fades off much like the 2014 teaser does at what looks like a similar distance.

About the only assets we havent actually seen yet are those specific types of trees shown in that image and those npcs picking the grass.

I want someone to find this exact area later on and make a comparison assuming it exists.
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>>342422358
>I want someone to find this exact area later on and make a comparison assuming it exists.
The geography in that original reveal trailer doesn't match the current game at all, I doubt that area ever existed as part of a playable game.
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>>342403720
I will never understand why people like you cripple your own comparisons by using photoshopped (or in this case, 1080p HD texture pack of Twilight princess) images. It just makes no sense.

It's like comparing apples to something not even closely related to fruit.
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>>342422520
The demo takes place solely on a plateau which seem to be mostly plains and is supposeably a very small part of the entire map, its entirely possible that outside of the great pleatu that there witll be more varied geography.
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>>342408681
Final Fantasy 12 and Xenoblade were 480p, BotW is 720p. It's less pixelated because it's running at a higher resolution
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>>342396208

>complaining about frame dips
>in an unfinished open world game

When have open world game EVER been optimized well?
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>>342422358
Agreed, the grass still looks good, the rocks also look like that (from the perfect distance). That location was clearly cherrypicked to show off the grass and a nice view while hiding the game's shit ground textures, LoD distance, and non-pine trees.

>>342422520
Pretty sure it's in the southeast.
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>>342422520
Yoi do realize that the area shown is no where close to being the entire overworld for the game right? Alot of people on /v/ seem to make this assumption
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>>342407554
what do you drink? The cripple's cum?
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>>342421654
Nintendo is even worse than Sorny right now. I'm just not the guy who started this reply chain
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>>342422358
It really depends.

There's this hideous brown smog that engulfs the land half the time. The game looks alright when the fog is gone, but when it's there, it really fucks up the look of the game, making objects look flatter than they already are and murdering the contrast.
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>>342422959
>cut in half mountain on the wrong side of Death Mountain
>Death Mountain and the surrounding landscape is shaped totally different
>from that angle Hyrule Castle should be plainly visible, but in the bullshot the best we get is what looks like maybe some type of castle or temple way off in the distance
we've gotten a good view of the whole map from streamers on the plateau, it doesn't match at all
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>>342419295
He was in some Fan game where you get to date the Normalboots cast. That's where the picture is from. No I don't know why it exists.
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>>342423145
There are plenty of streams where people climbed up high and looked around with the scope, we've seen the whole thing for the most part
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>WiiU version has a cinematic framerate and dogshit LOD
>NX version will at least be playable

Really, what was even the point of the wiiu?
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>>342423503
Brown smog? Cant say Ive seen it, but there's definately some fog that happens when you look down from a high amplitude, You dont see it nearly as much when you are looking far away from the same fround level.
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>>342423879
I'm talking about shit like this and the bottom half of OP's image.

The game looks at least 300x better without it, and is the primary source of my complaints about the game's graphics.
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>>342423517
>cut in half mountain on the wrong side of Death Mountain
No it isn't you silly. It's south of death mountain. The promo shot is located in the southeast, looking northwest. Thus Death Mountain is on the right.
https://youtu.be/dar1t_L2wBk?t=3m12s

>Death Mountain and the surrounding landscape is shaped totally different
Not really

>from that angle Hyrule Castle should be plainly visible, but in the bullshot the best we get is what looks like maybe some type of castle or temple way off in the distance
What makes you think they wanted to show calamity ganon buttfucking hyrule castle at that point in development?

The map is pretty consistent as far as I can tell, but I wouldn't expect it to stay exactly the same 2 years later.
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>>342423793
There was no point. It was a failed system.
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>>342424245
It isn't brown, it's gray and it's there to muddy the graphics so you can't tell how bad the textures are. Without it it'd look like an N64 game
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>>342424774
>Without it it'd look like an N64 game
It still looks like an N64 game. I'd rather a colorful N64 game than this shitstain of an N64 game we have right now.

Also, it's brown.
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>>342425319
Show me one(1) N64 game that looks like that. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
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>>342425432
We're exaggerating for effect. It's more like PS2 or GCN
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>>342425432
>what is hyperbole
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>>342424245
It looks like its just the puff cloud on your right fading out and the lighting depending on the time of day interacting with it. Doesnt looks all that bad to me but I see your point

>>342424774
>>342425319
Nice shitpost
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>>342408007
Didn't an outside company port?

Regardless, those frame drops were unacceptable.
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Isn't the real problem that all of the Zelda games are rehashes of each other with a gimmick thrown in? They're the Pokémon of console games at this point.
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>>342428680
Yes for TPHD, zelda team did WWHD.
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>>342428887
The 2D games
AoL
3D Zeldas

These are the separate rehash groupings. They're not all the same.
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