What happened? I thought #FE was shit?
>>342378224
muh metacritic
Solid smt like combat system
>>342378224
>I thought #FE was shit?
you will never find a single source online that ever said the game to be bad.
>>342378224
CENSORED
>>342378224
Gust cant afford to buy reviews
>>342379426
they can't afford to make games with a framerate above 20 either, which might be a factor
>>342378224
it will still sell like shit. all that this proves is that most reviewers don't give a shit about content censoring and the game itself was basically unaffected by the cheesecake censoring. however the people who actually have to buy these games (and aren't given them to play for free because of a job obligation) clearly do care.
Fates cheated around this because the feature removed wasnt entirely removed and the main problems of the game we're long expected ones of the series (terrible story) while fixing the weakest part of awakwing (awakenings lazy map variety)
this game will suffer sales wise because it's the most outright 'you aren't mature enough to decide what is appropriate for you, so momma will censor things for you" yet for nintendo, only the most diehards or internet ignorant will buy it (and weebs are many things, but ignorant of the internet is not one of them)
>>342379751
Can't wait for it to outsell bloodborne.
>>342378224
The game did get good reviews in Japan as well, so same happening over here isn't surprising.
And Atelier games never got rave reviews, so I don't understand why you're comparing the two.
>>342378224
Reviewers don't give a shit about what Nintendo removes or change.
>>342378224
Sophie isn't censored.
There's your answer.
>>342378224
>people defending #FE
>>342379751
>weebs are many things, but ignorant of the internet is not one of them
They are pretty diehard, though. With no physical release, however, I doubt it's gonna move many units. There are only so many Fatlus willing to pay for an unnecesarily censored product.
>>342379243
the story, artstyle, character design and writing is fucking abysmal
the gameplay is literally generic JRPG placeholder.
Atlus are known for paying off reviewers. There's no way they keep making enjoyable games.
>>342379751
Because costumes being changed has absolutely no bearing on the actual quality of the game.
>>342382414
Hey, the artstyle in Sophie is good
>>342378224
Please don't use Atelier for your shitposting, thanks.
>>342382293
>no physical release
what the fuck. Even the "we have no faith in this game" persona-lite Digimon game got a physical release.
Why the hell did Nintendo even localise this?
Sophie is the worst Atelier game I've played, I'm a fan of the series and 75 is still probably higher than I'd give it.
>>342379638
Power of the Vita there. Sophie on PS4 runs at a consistent 60.
>>342382727
I'm talkin' bout the faggot emblem game.
Sophie is an awesome game
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>>342382992
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>>342379887
Good luck with that when more people own Bloodborne than a Wii U.
>>342382858
what are you even talking about. #FE is up on amazon.digimon on vita wasn't even physical.
>>342382293
It's getting a boxed release on Europe. That's not happening on US?
>>342382618
Plenty of other things were changed as well, weren't they? Lewd pictures were removed from a dungeon that's about photographer who exploits the models, characters' ages were upped a bit...
I mean, it's all minor changes, but speaks of worrying trend in localization, that anything objectionable is changed or removed.
What's this Sophie game? I've never heard of it, and Digimon CS made me want to try more of the playstation weeb games.
>>342382902
>I fell for the Sophie is good because it's on PS4 meme
feels bad man
>>342382727
This might have worked if it wasn't blatantly clear that he was referring to #FE. Try harder next time.
>>342382293
>no physical release
I'm pretty sure that's not true
>>342383081
But Bloodborne didn't even outsell the Mario U DLC
>>342382902
Did you not play E&L or any of the Iris games?
>>342383081
Then how Splatoon sold more than BB?
>>342383131
>they wasted money physically releasing #FE in NA
Is Nintendo retarded? 90% of those copies are headed straight for the landfills
>>342378224
No, just censored shit
>>342383158
Atelier games are about all crafting. You run an item shop, hire people to go adventuring with you to gather ingredients, craft things to sell, equip or just to use in battles.
You never get epic adventures where you'd save the world, but stories and characters are fun.
>>342378224
I know a lot of people bash censorship but is this one game that benefits from it?
Does it make less cringey and embarrassing to play?
>>342379638
>they can't afford to make games with a framerate above 20 either
What?
>>342382293
>>342382858
It has a physical release. But why let a ten-second Google search interrupt the shitposting?
>>342378224
>nintendo boost
>censored boost
>normalfag reviews associate this instantly with P4
It will be in the 70s soon anyway there are hardly any reviews out yet.
>>342383158
The newest game in the Atelier series, which are about extremely deep item creation and combat that focuses on item usage, while taking a largely light-hearted approach to story that's based more on character events than overarching plot.
Sophie is one of the weaker entries, start with Ayesha+ or Rorona+ instead if you can.
>>342383597
I dont see how altering outfits makes fira embruemm or whatever people were "cringing" about any better.
>>342383582
>You run an item shop
You don't run an item shop in any Atelier game.
>>342383479
Are you fucking schizophrenic? One moment you're screaming about how they are idiots for not putting a physical and next you calling them idiots for putting out a physical release
>>342383597
No. You still have very anime dialog and story. If you consider some girls in bikinis and visible cleavage to be cringe, I'm sorry to say that's not even the most of it.
The game isn't most likely for you.
Also, if anything the censorship makes shit make less sense. See >>342383139
And in one point the main girl puts on bikini to show that she could make it as gravure idol as well, but in western release that was changed to weird hip-hop outfit, because...?
>>342383906
Bringing it over at all was fucking retarded
>>342384135
Why? So you can shitpost about them not bringing it here?
>>342383139
>but speaks of worrying trend in localization, that anything objectionable is changed or removed
Are you implying that hasn't been happening for decades now? Have you seen sprites from the JP versions of old Final Fantasy games?
>>342384224
I love how you're trying to find logic in /v/ shitposting. Haven't been here long, I take it?
>>342383757
How many of these are on the ps4?
>>342383689
The vita plus games run fucking horrible.
>>342384535
Only Sophie.
>>342384224
Because it's fucking obviously going to bomb
>>342383749
>23 reviews
>hardly any reviews
>>342378224
Progressive cuck review sites gave it good scores because it was censored. Basically the opposite of what they did to Bayo 2
>>342384535
none
just start with Sophie
it actually doesnt really matter where you start, just start somewhere orLET GO
>>342378224
They are both weeb shit but one is censored and a nintendo exclusive
>>342384721
the game also got good reviews before that, for the jap version.
>>342383689
Slowed down version for people with slow eyes.
Pause the webm on any frame you want.
I recommend frames 1.47, 3.34, 4.09 and 5.12.
>>342384552
That's a problem with the Vita.
You should be aware of it by now.
>>342382414
> artstyle
kek you aren't even trying. All you hate is the brand.
>>342382414
So Hastag Fire Emblem is literally Neptunia ?
/v/ is full of liars
>>342378224
>trusting game reviewers
>>342385314
This one here is my favorite, family.
>>342378224
Sophie is a step back from other Atelier games, except maybe E&L and Shallie.
#FE looks like dumb but fun idolshit, too bad it's censored though.
Also, >>342382837
>>342385546
Please do not run my waifu through a shitty upscaler.
>>342385725
>Having the worst Atelier protag ever as your waifu
>>342385314
>50 games out of like 1850 games
what gamecube fan made this
>>342385897
She's perfect.
>>342385997
She has no personality and her clothes are retarded as shit.
>>342385725
I'm sorry, boorus are filled with shitty upscaled pictures. Maybe one day someone will fix that.
>>342386084
Don't use Gelbooru, idiot.
>>342385464
How do we know how much the professional played though?
They should upload their review on Steam itself so we can see hours played, and achievements they got.
>>342386069
I'd generally agree, but she looks cute and her tummy is pretty lewd.
Too bad her personality IS shit, though.
>>342386069
Did you even play the game or are you just shitposting?
The outfit is explained.
>>342384552
E&L+ was perfectly fine and Shallie+ seems fine after the patch, though it hasn't been released in the west yet
Sophie doesn't seem to have any performance issues on the vita so far either. Ayesha+ was a mistake
Sophie was my first Atelier game. I thought it was bretty good.
Are they gonna have any other games on the piss4? Because fuck the vita
Based Atlus always wins
>>342385314
>God Hand lumped in with all that trash
>>342386216
Plachta has a way better belly though, so why even care about Sophie's?
>>342386290
Yeah, Leon is a famous fashion designer and yet her clothes look like they were designed by a retard like Rorona (except even Totori's clothes are much nicer).
I put Sophie back in her old clothes the second I got the new outfit and I'm irritated that all the CGs show her in the ugly new outfit. Speaking of, do you ever unlock more costumes, or costumes for other people aside from Plachta?
Oh no, I am sure it is a great game that appeals to a great number of people that in no way is hampered by a poor localization.
I am sure it will sell just as much as the japanese version.
>>342386069
She has that outfit because it was designed by a high-class fashion designer from a foreign country
She liked the clothes because they brought out her bright personality
>>342386216
She just wants to make people happy, her personality is the most pure
>>342386175
I only use it sometimes, silly.
>>342378224
Well OP, I hate to break this to you, but censorshipfags are just loud assholes and what they bitch about is almost exclusively fapbait and not gameplay.
>>342386445
>Unlock dollmaking
>Get this by chance on my first try
Oh boy.
>>342385314
>Steambot Chronicles 74
>Grandia II 71
>Godhand 73
>Baroque 60
>Fatal Frame 74
>Rule of Rose 59
>Vexx 63
>>342382902
>not liking sophie, the objectively best atelier game so far
I don't get the dislike for it, it's far better than arland and improves on shallie by miles
whenever a new atelier game hits people shit on it
EVERYTIME
>this game caters to my needs. 100/10
That's what happened
>>342386713
Same. It's pretty bland though, there's no excitement when 90% of the body is exposed.
>>342386713Visible nipples and all, why did Yuugen make her so lewd?
>Generic weeb trash
Keep it Nintendogs, you'll never, eveeeeeer get to play Persona 5, the zany weeb trash.
>>342386445
>do you ever unlock more costumes, or costumes for other people aside from Plachta?
Moon store has this. It's free too.
>>342383479
>Fatal Frame gets digital release despite the whole franchise selling like shit
>WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO I WANT PHYSICAL YOU HAVE NO FAITH IN THIS FUCK YOU
>#FE gets physical release despite being niche as fuck
>WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO DONT YOU REALIZE THIS ISNT GOING TO SELL
Why are you even in this thread?
>>342378224
>reviews matter if it supports my opinion
Fuck off.
>>342386338
>E&L+ was perfectly fine
You're full of shit, E&L+ is the worst running Vita game by far. On top of the shit frame rate and load times it also can take up to 20 seconds for enemies to load in an area after entering it.
>>342386437
Most of the games are good. Except Xenosaga. Xenosaga is an abomination.
>>342386786
I liked the Arland games/Ayesha more thanks to the high number of endings and the time limit that just glued all the mechanics together pretty well. Sophie makes a few improvements on the formula, but it's also missing a few other things, too.
Also, no character endings sucks.
>>342378934
THIS ISNT SMT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>342386338
>Sophie doesn't seem to have any performance issues on the vita so far either.
You mean aside from being capped at 30fps and struggling to maintain that?
>>342386875
So why isn't it on the western store? Why are KT so incompetent?
Well I paid no attention to this game because everyone said it was shit.
What's #FE even about anyway?
>>342387121
Ayesha only had one true ending though.
>>342386437
>Last Raven
>Trash
Go fuck yourself, m8.
>>342386980
>reviews don't matter if they don't fit my narrative
>>342387267
Fuck that shit, I'm still mad that Ayesha had no ending for best boy.
>>342387191
It's some kind of collaboration costume so I guess there are anime rights preventing it from coming to the west.
>>342381461
Christ, Nintendo fans continue to show they are the worst pieces of shit.
>>342386786
> it's far better than arland
It's significantly worse than Arland, especially in regards to characterisation.
>>342378224
Decent games can still sell terribly
>>342387363
It was always obvious he was Juris's husbando. He maintains the bar while Juris goes off on monster hunter adventures.
>>342387043
Nope.
>>342387482
>Falling for the falseflag
Bravo, just bravo
>>342382513
Yeah, the same company that couldn't afford to make PS3 games until 2009
>>342382293
There is a physical release as well as a collector's edition.
Calm down kiddo.
>>342378224
The game mechanics are fine, it's the wrapping that is shit.
>>342386850
Does this do more for you?
>>342387485
How so? It's got
>better synthesis
>better story
>better combat by far
>better characters (yes, cordelia is not an interesting multi-dimensional character)
People only like arland out of nostalgia
>>342387620
>It's just a falseflag! Honest!
Sure.
>>342387901
Please fuck off back to vitagen, Anon.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING A BAD GAME
BUT IT'S SHIT I TELL YOU
DON'T BUY IT OUT OF PRINCIPLE
>>342387936
Indeed it is sure, glad you finally came to your sense.
For a moment i tought you really were that dumb
>>342387121
It still has the character cgs when you progress through their story, it just doesn't end the game and force you to reload your save or replay the game again to get another. I never saw the appeal of character endings.
>>342388004
Nice argument
>It has a better score than a literally who game
Wow, it must be good!
>>342388059
Stay delusional.
>>342387482
What do you expect from a fanbase whose tagline is "It's the principle that matters"?
>>342387901
The combat is kind of unfortunate. Especially coming after the Dusk games, it feels like a massive step backward other than the ability to let other characters use some items.
>>342387936
Anon, everyone who isn't an idiot knows that is a joke account. Just accept it and stop trying to save face on an anonymous Persian rug weaving board.
>>342388220
And here i thought you had joined us in the triple digit IQ club. Guess i was wrong
So the damage controll by the haters has begun huh?
Oh #FE is shit it's gonna flop! Idiots spent all your time bitching about some stupid censoring rather than looking at the game itself.
Meanwhile Gust's loli pandering is starting to bite them.
Tears all around.
>>342378224
Justice happened. Its /v inevitable fate to be permanently BTFO'ed in the end.
>>342388205
Yeah, a new IP turned out better than a series that's nearly two (2) decades old
>>342385314
>Armore Core Last Raven
>Armored Core 3
>The Bouncer
>Way of the Samurai 2
>Rule of Rose
>Siren
>Fatal Frame
>Clock Tower 3
>Haunting Ground
>Romancing Saga
>Wild Arms 5
>Baroque
>God Hand
>Trapt
>using these games as examples for shit games
Fuck I'm triggered.
Grandia 2 is amazing too, but the PS2 port is admitedly shit.
>>342388365
I still haven't heard of that game until now.
>>342387901
>better synthesis
I like Sophie too, but removing traits cost was a bad idea
>>342387901
>better synthesis
Not even remotely. Rorona+ is where the synthesis was at its peak in complexity. But at least Sophie brought back individual item quality.
>better story
You're joking, right? Even Meruru is better.
>better combat by far
The combat is a massive downgrade compared to both Arland and Dusk. Combat being changed to a party turn system significantly reduces the effectiveness and importance of timed and repeating items, as well as the speed stat. Support actions now being automated significantly reduces player control and complexity, as you no longer have anything like using a defend to intentionally kill off a character who gets revived next turn. Getting the character you want to defend someone else in Sophie is near impossible.
>better characters
CorNeRia, Harol, and Oskar are decent characters with personality arcs and lots of events. Everyone else ranges from undeveloped (Monika, Lucio) to completely one-dimensional and forgettable (Elise, Horst).
The depth of side characters has taken a massive nosedive ever since E&L. Sophie is a step back up but it's still nowhere near the quality of character that was shown in Arland.
>>342388301
In the end, the combat is better. It has poor pacing at the beginning before things open up, but it's far better in the end.
E&L and Shallie had you do the same combination of assist attacks and guards with little to no risks. Sophie expands on it by making that more tactical depending on your stance and the situation
If you haven't actually fought any postgame bosses on despair i can potentially forgive your opinion
>>342378224
I much rater play a non censored game so i'd go for Atelier.
So for the longest time I pretty much dismissed all the Neptunia/Altier/weeb type games as just being shallow uguu kawaii waifubait trash, but I actually played Sophie recently and I really fuckin' like it.
What are some other ps4 weeb/animu/whatever-fuck-they're-called games that are actually good?
>>342381461
Oh wow this is pathetic
>mixed with elements from SMT
Wow, what a crossover.
>>342388365
>Fire Emblem
>new IP
>>342387898
I think that's the best looking one. I mean the other ones might show more skin but they are fucking retarded. Especially this piece of shit. A shame since SPD seems to be the most broken stat in the game.
Why does Sophie's grin looks like she wants to suck dicks?
>>342388812
This is obviously a new MegaTen game
>>342387898
Not really, that hood and the flaps on the sides are ugly.
>>342388827
This is horrid.
I think I just like her default best.
OH SHIT CHECK WIIUISO
Now show the user scores.
>>342388812
>you
>triple digit IQ
>>342379887
You know Star Fox Zero sold less than 50k copies, right?
Do you expect this to outsell that?
>Thread becomes an Atelier thread
I don't know why but I laughed.
>>342388668
I've heard it gets better, though I find the 'everything is planned at the start and all support actions fire automatically' to be the annoying part, so if that doesn't change later it's going to remain a sticking point. I don't know why they've gone with unlocking additional combat elements over time. It's not like the system is terribly complicated to begin with.
>>342388998
You underestimate the autism of weebs
>>342388361
>Gust's loli pandering
There have been a whole two lolis in the last four Atelier games.
>>342389038
Of course it did.
Nobody cares about #FE.
>>342388916
I've found 4 of them so far, the default one is a disaster aswell.
>>342388720
PS4 doesn't have many good weeb games yet, and don't fall for the Nep or CH/IF meme.
Grand Kingdom is fun, though. Maybe give that a try?
>>342386669
well what's the sauce
>>342389038
/v/ has bad taste what's new
>>342388916
>I think I just like her default best.
It's good but I'm okay with this one too.
>>342388720
Neptunia is shallow uguu kawaii waifubait trash. Atelier is a series that's been running for two decades and has always been focused on gameplay.
None of the other Ateliers are on PS4 yet but if you have a PS3 or Vita you should play the earlier ones.
>>342384264
Stop. Spreading. This. Wrong. Sentiment.
Nintendo for over a decade halted their extensive censorship practices. Look at the N64 era through to the Wii. See how there was only a sprinkling of censored releases during that 15 year span.
Now look at Nintendo for the last year. An absurd amount of games, with a growing amount of cut content.
It's the stupidest argument to act like nothing between the late 80s to the 2010s changed.
>>342389038
Who the fuck was excited for #FE after all this retarded censoring? Even during its announcement it was laughed at.
>>342388664
>Not even remotely. Rorona+ is where the synthesis was at its peak in complexity. But at least Sophie brought back individual item quality.
You have no idea how the numerical value for quality in Sophie works, do you? The most rorona had was combining traits, but sophie does the same thing with more interesting items.
>You're joking, right? Even Meruru is better.
>"I have to keep my shop up": the game, is a better story
Good joke, nostalgiafag
>The combat is a massive downgrade compared to both Arland and Dusk
t. someone who never played past normal mode
>. Combat being changed to a party turn system significantly reduces the effectiveness and importance of timed and repeating items
t. someone who doesn't understand the break mechanic or how speed actually works in sophie
> Support actions now being automated significantly reduces player control and complexity
It doesn't reduce player control whatsoever, you have everything pre-determined before your turn ends, with the exception of things dying and your characters acquiring a new target mid-turn. Have you never played a trpg in your life? You set the character you want to guard to defensive stance on the front line, everything else is mechanically determined from there
And don't try to pretend that there were more than one or two characters in arland that weren't entirely one-dimensional. Sterk is the best thing I can think of, and he took 3 games worth of character development to progress
>>342389229
It has some, the problem is they are mostly crossplatform with the vita which makes them look mostly like ass.
>>342378224
>the nubie alchemist
>nubie
What the fuck?
>>342388948
The games not out yet, but here are some Japanese ones
>>342389283
you idiots complaining about the censorship brought tons of attention to a game destined for the bargain bin. way to go censorship bandwagon
>>342389252
They all fucking suck. Which is a shame since her weapon at least looks interesting and punching motherfuckers with giant arms is always nice.
Atelier Sophie sold 170,000 copies in Japan
FE sold 32,000
>>342389449
Are you acting like ignoring the censorship will make it go away? Cause that hasn't been happening, despite release after release, with a good few of them flopping.
>>342389449
It's not even going to sell well after all this censorship discussion, the game bombed in Japan, it won't fare well here either because no one with a brain owns a Wii U.
>>342389359
I think its supposed to be a double-meaning of Noobie and Nubile
>>342388361
>Meanwhile Gust's loli pandering is starting to bite them.
>Sold more on its first week than TMShit on its lifetime
LMAO
M
A
O
>>342385919
>all 1850 games on PS2 are good
dude
>>342388361
>Meanwhile Gust's loli pandering
That's just silly. Lolis don't buy games.
>>342389640
having a constant general just brings the game more attention. No such thing as bad publicity just look at Trump
>>342389229
What's Grand Kingdom about?
>>342389793
Their parents do.
>>342378224
It got great reviews in Japan, but I didn't expect the same from the west. Still, I'll wait for the uncensor patch before playing it.
>>342389252
>>342389205
That's okay, but in general I don't much care for the new artists. They've completely obsessed with slapping accessories all over everyone, and asymmetry in the designs. They're almost as bad as mid-2000s Nomura.
Elise is probably my favourite design in the game but when you look closely you see she's also got a bunch of different pins and bracelets on her arms and clothes along with the fluffy polka dot socks. They have no clue how to hold back and make designs with elegant simplicity, which is what I adored about Mel.
Hell, just compare these two.
>>342388365
Never heard of it.
>>342389850
Well, I can't blame them if they want a game with this faggot in it.
I want to be Sophie
>>342389958
If it got great reviews in Japan, why did it sell so poorly?
>>342389962
I think pamela looks cute.
>>342389818
Trump fires back at the bad publicity, and isn't afraid to take pot shots. That's why he's gained so much momentum. Nintendo isn't actively defending or even recognizing their censorship practices. They're mum on the matter.
This is just creating a negative sentiment towards Nintendo overall.
>>342389962
While nyuugen I and NOCO and mostly boring completely retarded Firis looks really cute so I guess I can't complain
>>342390220
#FE is probably better, since it actually has good gameplay
Why would any of you want this game?
None of the girls are wearing Burkas, it wasnt censored enough I say.
Tsubasas face is enough to get off too, it needs to be covered
So i hope you dont support this game and their terrible handling of localization. It shouldnt have even released over here
>>342389332
>The most rorona had was combining traits, but sophie does the same thing with more interesting items.
Oh yeah man, isn't Sophie great with a flat three traits per item instead of any cost system? Not simplified at all.
>t. someone who never played past normal mode
I've been playing through the entire game on hard faggot, don't use "you're bad" as an argument.
>t. someone who doesn't understand the break mechanic or how speed actually works in sophie
I didn't say speed is useless, but it's much less important than in previous games where it actually determined how many turns you would get instead of just how many hits you do. Your quoted part also doesn't even have anything to do with what I said about items.
>It doesn't reduce player control whatsoever, you have everything pre-determined before your turn ends, with the exception of things dying and your characters acquiring a new target mid-turn.
>It doesn't reduce control except for where it does
>And don't try to pretend that there were more than one or two characters in arland that weren't entirely one-dimensional. Sterk is the best thing I can think of, and he took 3 games worth of character development to progress
Unlike in Sophie, one-dimensional characters in Arland were a minority. Sterk in Rorona alone was more developed than most of Sophie's cast.
>>342390458
Kill yourself.
>>342389821
It's sort of like Grand Knights History, a PSP Vanillaware game we never got. There's war between 4 kingdoms. You lead a random band of mercenaries and grind the fuck out of them. There's a single-player campaign and an online component where you pick your kingdom and go to war against parties from players of other kingdoms controlled by an AI.
The gameplay is divided in two segments, the exploration part is similar to moving your piece around a table from a board game, but without dice rolls and with a turn limit for success/failure instead. Objectives most generally tend to be to just reach the goal and win against the end boss. The combat is somewhat hard to explain, but I'd kind of compare it to a reduced version of Valkyria Chronicles in 2D with three different horizontal lanes for movement, and when executing attacks you need some timing for combos or just to hit your enemy with ranged characters.
I've sunk about 30 hours in the game, if that sounds fun to you then you should at least try the demo (don't know if it's up for PS4, but the Vita has one available).
>>342389515
I like this one, though the dangling pendants are a bit much.
>>342390072
Because nobody owns a Wii U and the Japanese apparently don't give a shit about reviewsSomething we should all learn from
>>342381461
Jesus Christ you literally can't make this shit up.
>>342389962
I agree, some of the new characters are overdesigned as fuck like >>342390412 and her whacky-smacky cowboy boots
Though to be fair, most of the overdesigned ones are foreigners with clothes that are commonplace where they're from
>atelier Iris
>craft a craft with different items
>a new item comes out
Really miss this desu
>>342381461
>By spoilng P5 for EOPs, we can drive international sales down and help boost #FE's own sales!
>>342390412
Those retarded shoes are a blight on an otherwise passable design.
>>342390160
Pamela is always cute, so it was hard for them to fuck that up.
>>342390171
This. what kind of idiot compares two completely different situations that have nothing to do with each other?
I'm buying #FE at full price on launch day since Nintendo games don't drop in price ever.
>>342390458
>#FE is probably better, since it actually has good gameplay
Nintenyearolds everyone.
There's still three empty slots in the menu screens after getting Plachta, so when the hell do I get the remaining three party members?
>>342381461
gonna need some hot pockets for this one
I'm really looking forward to atelier Firis
Imagine an atelier game
With a world that doesn't look like shit
I just hope they can make it happen
>>342390072
The same reason why Dusk games got a decent scores but sold poorer than Arlandshit. Japan only interested in pedo stuff apparently. Thats why Splatoon for half dead console actually sold millions out there in the country where barely anyone have a fucking Wii U.
>>342390514
Sounds sweet. Thanks for typing all that out for me, my man
Its not shit its just not what I expected when they original said they were making SMTxFE.
Its also censored so its not worth buying anyways. At least not brand new. Used is fine.
>>342390980
>japan is obsessed with lolis
Japanese games were a mistake.
>>342390980
>dusk
>better than Arland
>>342389962
Mel started off Rorona with simple designs, but you can't deny they got pretty retarded by Meruru. Sterk in that game was an abomination, design-wise.
I like him, but I think Hidari was a good choice for the Dusk trilogy, too. Sad his designs were wasted on two trash games, but at least Ayesha was really good.
>>342389962
For a young male, Sterk looks handsome as fuck. I can see why Rorona fell for him
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 outsold Sophie.
>>342390220
#FE already won, since there is a japanese dub included.
>>342390980
He's not even talking about Atelier you mouthbreathing retard.
Sophie is an improvement from Dusk, but it's still no Arland.
>Ayesha gutted the ever-living fuck out of alchemy, items, and gathering
>it's only now starting to slowly recover
DUSK WAS A MISTAKE.
>>342391212
Hidari is a woman
>>342391295
>big black cock news
Not surprised they would do another piece like this
Defend degeneracy of their home culture but mock degeneracy from another
>>342391131
>Arland
>being anything but pedogarbage for braindead neptunia-loving autists
>>342391289
The PS4 version of Persona 5 is confirmed to have dual audio, the PS3 version will not.
>>342391516
>dusk
>an atelier game
Remind me again what an alchemist is supposed to do
>>342391212
The only problems I have with Sterk in Meruru is the leg belts and bandages on the sword, but even that is infinitely more simple than anything in Sophie. The rest of Meruru's designs are pretty great though, especially for the returning Totori characters.
And everyone loves Hidari, I don't think that even needs to be said.
>>342381461
>he actually has a twitter account dedicated to his false flagging
>or he might just be fucking insane
I swear to God a new autist crops every year, operating 24/7 to do what they do best.
>>342391082
yeah this pretty much, very level headed response
>>342390482
You still have to expand and combine those traits onto future material items, which then have to combine with further items for the best trats. It has bad pacing where it doesn't open up transferrable traits until later on, but it's much better than drag-n-drop and stacking x-soul in Rorona+.
>only on hard
kek
Speed is still important because multihit and turn order are very important later on. Another pacing/scaling issue but it is far from bad.
It doesn't reduce control where it doesn't matter. Trash doesn't matter, they're going to die without any threat regardless. Some improvements should be made for better control in that regard, I agree, but it's better than rorona by miles, much less the abomination that was totori.
>Unlike in Sophie, one-dimensional characters in Arland were a minority
I sincerely disagree. Shit like Lionela, Astrid, Gio, the cooking guy, and Hom were not by any means more multi-dimensional than any of the modern characters. Sterk is cool, but he wasn't very developed either until Totori.
>>342390846
There's a trophy for getting everyones friendship level to 100. Plachta was the last character you unlock though. Maybe they couldn't do it otherwise because there was not enough space in the status menu.
>>342390980
>Lolicon
>having anything to do with pedophilia
I hope #FE sells wellso i don't feel guilty for pirating it
>>342391518
>The PS4 version of Persona 5 is confirmed to have dual audio
Shitposting must be subtle sonybro
>>342391629
Not even bother with the shitty gutted alchemy system, mash buttons, and have Linca delete every enemy in one shot with endless repetitive pointless battles?
>>342391053
No problemo, dude.
>>342391460
Right, I forgot about that.
>>342391516
Stop shitposting and falseflagging. Seriously, what the fuck is your problem?
Four years of Atelier threads and you're the first retard with the balls to shitpost other Ateliers.
>>342391632
True, I love Totori's design in Meruru a lot.
>>342391629
Hunt dragons with her strong, socially awkward husband and lovable, bright sister-in-law.
>>342378224
It's really quite impressive how asshurt this game made people.
>>342391437
>Sophie is an improvement from E&L and Shallie
Fixed. Ayesha was a great game. I'll agree on the alchemy point, but how did it gut items and gathering?
>>342391752
Slippery slope my man
>>342391895
>store milk in container
>milk doesn't spoil
>>342391815
Meruru's Totori is thesexiestcharacter in all of Atelier.
Betrays both franchises but is actually solid gameplay wise. I guess gameplay beat setting.
>>342391516
I want hidari back
PS4 ateliers aesthetic is fucking Mel tier trash
Gameplay is shit as well what the fuck is Gust thinking
>you will never clothes as comfy as the outfits in Atelier
>>342383081
Bloodborne sold just over 2 million copies
http://archive.is/ZzGgJ
Splatoon alone sold http://web.archive.org/web/20160427091004/
Splatoon alone sold over 4 million copies https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wiiu.html
Hell Nintendo have 7 exclusives that have sold over 3 million copies, fucking Mario Maker sold more then Bloodborne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_U_video_games
And this is only on 13 million Wii Us.
tl;dr your wrong and you should feel bad
>>342391895
Every resource you pick up feels the same, there's almost no such thing as unique plants with good traits and varying quality anymore
Items are basically pointless because back attack gives you infinite crits on every enemy, just spam valkyrie dive to end the battle
>>342392061
>Gameplay is shit as well
So that'd line up nicely with Dusk, then
>>342392140
>bloodborne sales
>hasn't been updated since early 2015
lolk
>>342378224
It's an Atlus game.
Name a bad Atlus game that's not P4 Dancing. You literally cant.
>>342391437
Arland nostalgiafags are the worst.
Totori alone was abysmal with its shallow combat and synthesis, and the other games didn't improve on it too much. Rorona took a whole remake to be playable.
The real mistake was soul traits/properties
Why did Gust drop Mel for the art anyway?
>>342391815
>Honest opinion about garbage trilogy aimed towards lowest common denominator is suddenly shitposting
Spotted filthy obese pantsusniffing neckbeard right there. Kys trash.
>>342382414
Source, otherwise it's just your salty opinion.
>>342391727
>You still have to expand and combine those traits onto future material items, which then have to combine with further items for the best trats.
But that's exactly the same as in Arland, are you retarded?
>Speed is still important because multihit and turn order are very important later on.
You keep arguing that speed is important when I'm just saying it's less important.
>Trash doesn't matter, they're going to die without any threat regardless.
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
>Some improvements should be made for better control in that regard, I agree
Then why do you keep arguing?
>but it's better than rorona by miles, much less the abomination that was totori.
Yeah, no. Even Totori still had more complex combat by virtue of the speed-based individual turn order and support control.
>Shit like Lionela, Astrid, Gio, the cooking guy, and Hom were not by any means more multi-dimensional than any of the modern characters.
As I said, minority. Meanwhile I've already listed the three decent characters in Sophie while everyone else ranges from bland to forgettable.
>>342391740
But the status menu and equipment-for-character menus show three empty slots in an otherwise neatly arranged menu. God damn it, that's annoying.
>>342392432
Catherine.
>>342392432
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
>>342392252
>So that'd line up nicely with Dusk, then
>when Escha considered best Atelier gameplay wise pretty much by everyone
