Can we get a comprehensive list of counter picks going
Who are your go to picks vs. certain heroes and why?
Counter pick tier:
>Bastion, D.Va and Rein
Reaper, get up in their faces and hold down your index finger
>Pharah
Soldier soft counters Pharah in the air with his medium range hitscan gun, though helix are tough to hit upwards. His ult also completely negates Pharah.
>Torbjörn / Bastion
Junkrat or Pharah, I usually perfer Pharah for long range turret snipes
>Genji/Tracer
McCree for easy stuns and good damage
>Hanzo / Widow
Situational, but usually people agree that Winston is good if you can get past the choke. Tracer is also good for backline harassment. Also a better sniper usually works.
Up in the air tier:
>Roadhog
>Mei
>Soldier
>Zarya
>Junkrat to some extent
These are the heroes I normally have the most trouble specifically counter picking, who do you pick against them and why? Also feel free to post your entire list
>>342354894
>Reaper
>Bastion counter
Stopped reading there. Pharah, Widowmaker, Junkrat, Hanzo, Soldier 76 are his proper counters. Roadhog too in close quarters.
>>342355013
That is actually supposed to say Winston, not Bastion, my bad
>>342355071
Not much better honestly. Bastion can kill a Winston that jumps at him way faster than the Winston can. Especially if a Mercy is pocket healing.
>>342354894
Road Hog is though.
Get close enough with Reaper you can dance around him
D.VA can kill him pretty damn fast
Reinhart can pin him easily then just wail on him
Junkrat, trap him easily even if not hes a huge target
>>342355314
Try Reaper against Winston.
>>342355314
Reaper counters Winston pretty damn well anon
>>342355071
>>342355396
>>342355419
Ah, my bad, I misread. I thought you were saying that Winston counters Bastion. Sorry.
>>342355396
>>342355419
try reading first
>>342355341
I find Roadhog to be one of the hardests heroes to counter pick against, if you get unlucky and get hooked you just flat out die as Reaper. A good Roadhog can also duel a Reaper at close quaters and come out ahead.
Getting some nasty meat shots in at range with a Hanzo also seems kinda okay? Or landing a bunch of nades on a big target with Junkrat
Roadhog is tough man
>tracer
roadhog can grab + oneshot her and thanks to the tickrate more often than not you kill her before she uses her E.
On maps like Anubis junkrat works fairly well against her too, if you keep your traps up on the flanks and dont try to 1v1 her.
probably not all but that were the first things that i thought of
Winston is a much better counterpick against Genji, after the nerf McCree has a hard time killing him and even before then I would say it was 60 40
>>342355667
yeah Hanzo works fairly well due to Roadhogs lack off a shield like the other tanks.
>>342355742
can't she sometimes fiddle out of hook with rewind, or is that just against mccree stun?
sometimes i hook/stun her, and she mashes out with rewind like 4/10 times
>>342355667
Just have everyone focusing the roadhog at once, he goes down really fast and he doesn't really have anything to prevent it unlike the other tank heroes.
I guess this is why Roadhog is considered crap in "pro" play because a team can actually coordinate this but he dominates in pubs
>>342355667
Reaper, McCree and Tracer are pretty good if you can dodge the hook.
Aside from that Zarya is great against him as well as long range heroes like Soldier, Widowmaker, Pharah.
>>342355893
Yeah thats what i meant with the tickrate
>>342355953
I've found that soldier is decent against him, once you get that sweet dink train going of headshots you can get him down fairly well
But once you get hooked as soldier, it's all over
>>342355667
Zenyatta works well, just orb him and throw balls at his face from range. Close up you get rekt tho
>>342356035
For sure, just try to outrange him. He can't do anything when you're far away.
>>342356035
Soldier counter almost everything in the game with his hitscan rifle and helix rockets and healing/sprint for survivability
>>342354894
D.Va is so fucking cute I swear to god
I'm never even going to play this game
>>342354894
>McCree
>Genji Counter
uhh, if you get the drop on him yeah, but genji can just reflect his flashbang and fuck him up
Symmetra and Winston counter genji pretty well. A lot of genji's foolishly think they can reflect Symmetra's beam.
>>342356127
no he doesnt counter everything, he just does okay against most things
>>342356127
oddly enough i have decent success with going junkrat/roadhog against soldier
>>342356232
>A lot of genji's foolishly think they can reflect Symmetra's beam.
Also Mei's frostbeam, too bad that he can escape the snare by just keep double jumping
>>342356232
Any decent McCree will bait out his reflect and then stun him.
A lot of bad McCree's tend to flashbang the moment they see him. McCree is Genji's next best counter after Winston.
Zarya is also pretty good though.
>>342356262
I wouldn't say those two counter him, just that junkrat can stay safe thanks to bouncing projectiles and roadhog kills pretty much everyone who is in hooking distance.
>>342356260
not really hard counter but he can go 1v1 with almost every hero in the game, and doesn't have anything that just cockblock him like most other heroes have. Like Genji against Winston. Soldier is always useful.
Helis rockets while continously firing will outright kill any 200hp hero.
Can tracer rewind out of junkrat traps?
>>342355667
I must be doing something wrong. As road hog because every time I grab a Reaper, it's almost always certain death for me
>>342356395
I've been told that McCree can just throw flashbang in the floor to bypass his deflect, but whenever I do this it gets deflected back at me anyway. And then in kill cam I threw it directly at him.
This game has so many stupid network issues
>>342356193
Yes you are.
>>342356608
>I've been told that McCree can just throw flashbang in the floor to bypass his deflect
Oh yeah, that too. You need to flash a bit far from him though cause the reflect has a huge area of effect that goes outside of Genji's player model.
>>342356557
no
also post your top 5
>>342356596
im pretty sure you can oneshot him, roadhogs gun does a shitton of damage
Widowmaker, 76, and McCree all counter Pharah. Widowmaker is especially her hard-counter.
>>342356997
genji does well against her too if he manages to get close
How do I get gud as Genji?
>>342356596
Are you holding down the fire button before the hook releases him? It'll pop off a shot as soon as the target reaches you without cancelling the hook. And don't forget to immediately melee after the shot.
>>342357150
dont be predictable, spam emote and just throw shuriken everywhere
>>342357150
Become proficient at floating over people's heads with your double jump and shift
Learn where ALL the medkits are on EVERY map
Learn to lift click shift right click melee combo, and if you screw up get out, go get a medkit, and try again
Your JOB is to kill Mercy / Widow / Bastion / sometimes Pharah, that is your ONLY JOB, stop going after other things
>>342357150
You don't, just play him because he's fun.
>>342357150
Try to find isolated targets and be aggressive. Dash behind them, double jump and right click on them a bunch.
Reflect when necessary. Dash through enemies as you get kills to make it hard for the enemy to aim.
Also watch A_Seagull, he's one of the best Genji's out there.
>>342357150
Kb+m
>>342355667
Zen, Soldier and a decent McCree.
Hanzo and Widow can make him bleed as well since his only defensive ability is a heal.
A Zarya will make taking him out fucking hell though.
Do characters have a defense value. Bastion just seems to melt when I try and heal him.
>>342357150
>>342357379
Oh and, right click->melee->dash is devastating. It's instantaneous thanks to animation cancelling and does 160-170 damage.
>>342357415
hes stationary and just gets fukked, everything else is moving and dodging damage
how the heck do I counter Zarya
People are starting to realize she's god tier and her fucking shields piss me off
>>342355013
>reaper teleports behind him, literally
>2-3 pops in his crit zone will melt him
I play Lucio 90% of the time. Only switching when doing a specific strategy. I have the most trouble against Pharah, Junkrat and anyone with an auto aim attack. Against Mei it can go either way. Sometimes I can blast her back with alt fire and out dps her before I get frozen. Meanwhile I make Tracers, Roadhogs, Sniper shitters and a few others my bitch. D.va is hilariously easy to beat because I can heal myself faster than she can damage me.
>>342357614
>be Bastion
>hear loud as fuck teleport sound behind me
>turn around to see a stationary Reaper looking at me
>hold left click to his face
>dead in one tenth of a second
>>342357660
Pharah seems decent against a lone Lucio, killing a Lucio that rolls with his team (which he literally always should) can be really difficult
>>342357613
don't shoot the shields, chase or down if you are quick and dodgy, stay just out of her laser range otherwise. She has 0 mobility options and is one of the slowest characters in the game. Like as in Reinhardt can chase her down.
>>342354894
http://www.owfire.com/overwatch/counters
This is mostly good and in a convenient package.
>>342357750
>implying bastion can turn that fast
>implying he wouldn't be moving about after the teleport
>implying he wouldn't have teleported to a smart location near you rather than behind you
You're a moron, and I love melting idiots like you.
>>342355314
Winston isn't bad if somebody is already shooting at the Bastion and you can jump in from another angle.
>>342357613
Don't shoot her fucking shield
It's that simple
Just don't shoot the shield. Tell your team to not shoot the shield.
Her zero charge DPS is pretty awful.
>>342357750
>bastion
>competence
That's funny. Bastion players are funny.
>>342357776
Yeah, I'm just basing it on those times when you're the only guy left alive near the a point. Pharah just has to hit near you to deal damage and you can't retreat up a building to get away.
>>342358035
>"implying bastion can turn that fast"
>implying he can't
Console player detected.
>>342358035
Are you still playing in the beta or something? Bastion can turn 360 and doesn't have a slow turning speed.
>after the teleport
If Bastion can see where he's teleporting, he's dead. If he can't, he can wait for him or move somewhere else.
You're the moron here, buddy.
>>342354894
>Tanks
Reaper
>Everyone else
McCree & Widowmaker
>>342355942
pretty much this.
as pub roadhog people barely manage to kill me. especially when I take a hit and run approach.
>look around corner
>hook squishies. preferably healers or 200 health heroes
>kill em
>heal
>repeat
it's easy as shit to dominate a defense point as roadhog in pub
>>342358109
The thing is Bastion has a pretty low skill floor and high skill ceiling. That's why people think that only shitters play him well and competent players won't play him or something. A good Bastion and a bad one is miles apart.
>>342358264
This. Reaper is so fucking broken now that pub McCrees can't consistently 100% to 0% him
>>342358246
So if Bastion magically knows something outside his line of sight is teleporting, then ALSO magically knows where that teleport is ending up, he can just move. That's great, call me when Bastion has permanent wallhacks and 360 degree vision on a single screen.
>>342358246
Are you implying reapers teleport in sight of their targets? Are you mentally challenged, or have you not played Overwatch?
>>342358390
There's no magic involved, anon. There is a very distinct and loud sound cue to the teleport skill, even if he's not visible he's still audible.
>Bastion, D.Va and Rein
Junkrat
>Pharah
Junkrat (if you're gud)
>Torb+Bastion
Junkrat
>Genji/Tracer
Junkrat (traps motherfucker)
>Hanzo/Widow
Fucking Junkrat
>Roadhog
>Mei
>Soldier
>Zarya
Motherfucking JUNKRAT
>>342354894
>Being so bad you NEED counter picks
You can't make this shit up
>>342358390
Reaper's teleport is loud as hell, even enemies can hear it, and his voice line to boot.
Do you play the game with sound muted or something?
>>342358480
Are you also playing with your sound off or something? Audio in this game tells you so much about enemy placement.
>>342358390
>loud ass "REPOSITIONING" directly behind you
Yeah, how would anybody figure it out.
>>342358390
I've flanked a Bastion succesfully without him realizing, the moment I started shooting at him and his screen turns red he just turned 180 and destroyed me
It was on attack on anubis, he sat at the main gate and just took the left side route behind him I was a reaper too, fuck I was mad
>>342358356
>Reaper is so fucking broken
Just flashbang him lol
>>342358598
I actually calculated it once, he does 450 DPS when you're close to him and 900 with headshots. It's actually insane.
>>342358498
>>342358553
>>342358591
>>342358596
>this many bad players
Reaper's teleport line is only audible when he's close to you. A decent player simply teleports to avoid your line of sight and waltz up behind you like the idiots you are.
All the more shitters to crush online, I suppose.
>>342358749
You can hear him even when you can't see him you idiot.
Besides, you're assuming that the Bastion is placed in such a way that you can teleport behind him with a wall between you and him which rarely happens.
>>342358873
For the hundredth time, why would I teleport within earshot? Why would I try to go directly behind him? Are you even reading? Do you understand English?
>>342358598
You shouldn't be getting close to Bastion in the first place unless you think the player is both bad and distracted.
>>342358035
>implying bastion can turn that fast
What are you talking about?
>>342358749
>All the more shitters to crush online, I suppose.
>Are you even reading? Do you understand English?
typical reaper main
>>342358984
Well then that means you're flanking, not teleporting behind him like you claimed before. There is a difference.
Even then the Bastion can hear your footsteps when you get close enough to kill him and he can out-DPS you hard. Like how it happened to this guy >>342358598
>>342358302
You must be level 30 or some shit. Once you get higher, you'll get decimated by Reapers and teams with a Zarya
You should really consider using this time to git gud at Zarya or Mei, because Roadhog just is not viable later on when people actually have good comps, group up (even just a little), and jump around spasticly (causing 20tick to send hooked targets in random directions)
>>342358984
>hear reaper's clampy-stampy school shooter boots clomping on up
>spin around and kill him
Or are you playing on console?
>>342358035
>implying bastion can turn that fast
Fuck off back to your PS4 sonygger.
>>342359153
>Well then that means you're flanking
No shit you absolute idiot.
Also, that guy should have known to keep moving in his face when he tried to turn.
What's the counter for double or triple Zarya?
>>342359072
What is this fucking meme? His turning speed = his mouse speed / sensitivity
Are you LITERALLY playing on a peasant box or something? Are you playing with a controller? Is this some half-baked trolling attempt?
>>342359250
Anyone that can outrange her. Literally anyone. Snipers, pharah, and junkrat especially.
>>342359250
nothing can stop putin cleave
>stacking two soldiers on a team
Incredibly infuriating. Good heals, crazy damage output and mobility and piss easy deadly ult. Fuck stacking.
>>342359250
Bastion + Rein, Winston, Zenyatta
Also her biggest counter is not shooting at her damn shields.
Every time you do so her weapon becomes stronger.
>>342359237
>No shit you absolute idiot.
First you tell me that you can teleport behind him and then change the scenerio when I tell you how it won't work...
>Also, that guy should have known to keep moving in his face when he tried to turn.
To make himself and easier target for the Bastion? He does 450 DPS without headshots. He also has more hp and armor than a Reaper. You're at a disadvantage no matter what.
>>342359323
Also bastion. He can melt her shield away before it would normally disappear, then do the same to her. It's ridiculous, really.
>>342354894
D.va typically can counter Hanzo, that's if she has some functioning brain cells.
>>342355667
McCree pre-nerf was a decent counter pick. Zenyatta is the best in my experience as long as you stay back and just orb of discord + left click. Its easy because he is big and slow and usually sticks to the front of the fight.
>>342359461
Her shields have a set amount of health? I thought it was timed.
>>342359458
>First you tell me that you can teleport behind him
Show me.
>To make himself and easier target for the Bastion?
>retard thinks moving about at close range makes it easier for the to hit you
>dodging makes you an easier target
I'm done, this is pointless. You're clearly baiting at this point.
>counter-picks
Why the fuck do you even bother? Do you seriously believe what Blizzard think is "balance" when they cannot even design a shooter?
Nobody in the "pro scene" (yeah, I know) uses counters. Why pick a counter, if the guy will immediately switch to something different and now you have to switch back?
There are two tiers of heroes - either "counterable", so absolute garbage (like Bastion), or "generic", so competitive.
>>342359515
d.Va can't counter for shit.
She's more useful when she's out of the mech.
>>342359605
2 seconds, but her personal barrier only has 200 health, and the partner barrier has 400. If they pop it's a guaranteed 50% charge, but if she dies that doesn't mean shit. She can eat more than that with individual hits, but after the limit is reached it disappears (meaning she can take big hits like D Va's ult, but it will make the shield vanish afterwards).
Basically, you can't just run in on a whole team shooting you or bastion's stupid shit, or your shield will pop and you'll die before you escape due to trash mobility.
>>342359615
>implying he wouldn't have teleported to a smart location
Well maybe I misinterpreted your "smart location".
>I'm done, this is pointless. You're clearly baiting at this point.
How so? Are you denying that a Bastion has more health, armor and DPS than Reaper?
You're assuming that the Bastion is a bad player with low situational awareness and/or aim in your scenerio.
>>342359615
You are a complete idiot.
How is reaper any reasonable counter to Bastion?
All he can do is literally walk up to Bastion until he is within 5meter range where he can actually deal damage,
And most of the time Bastion is positioned in a way that makes flanking impossible without running into his team.
A Widow can kill a Bastion within second from almost anywhere. Reaper has to somehow unseen get behind the Bastion and then walk up to him. Reaper is probably the worst flanker when it comes to killing Bastion.
>>342359747
She counters widowmaker and pharah.
Shutting down a rocket barrage with a booster+defense grid combo is great. Even better when she's on low health and you glomp her to death out of the sky.
>>342359515
>D.va
>Countering anything
The ONLY thing she can be used to counter is Barrage as she can gobble it up with her E like slurping a load of jizz, and im not even sure it lasts long enough to stop all of it
>>342359685
What people are talking about is when your team has absolutely no counter against a specific hero who is stomping your team.
A team with Tracer, Rein, Zarya, Roadhog, Junkrat, and Genji can be easily stomped with 2 Pharahs.
If your entire team is mid ranged you're fucked if the enemy has long ranged.
>>342359237
This only works against mouth-breathers even more retarded than the flanker.
>>342354894
76 melts Roadhog in my experience.
Roadhog has a pretty big headshot box, you get get insane dps on him as Dad by aiming well.
>>342359685
>pharah is wrecking our team
>hmm, i could pick widow or soldier, but some anon told me not to bother so i guess i'll keep losing
>>342360021
She is annoying against widow but she can't do shit against a half decent Pharah.
>tor
i dont know if it was the player but there was a D.Va on last night that was really giving me a hard time.
>>342359863
Cool, thanks for the explanation anon.
>>342354894
>Roadhog
Reinhardt, or anyone out of range of his hook. Mei can fight a Roadhog to a stalemate if they're equal skill, so be a better ambusher than the other player. Downside to Reinhardt is that spending time fucking around with Roadhog means you're not doing your job shielding your team, so a Roadhog can technically "win" in the sense that he's fucked up your cohesion, even if he dies in the process.
>Mei
Anyone out of range of her freeze gun, or any close-range damage dealer with a way to block the freeze (Reaper, Zarya, McCree's stun, etc.) As mentioned, a Roadhog/Mei comes down to who ambushes who first.
>Soldier
Literally everyone but Mercy and maybe Lucio. Soldier is the ultimate "jack of all, master of none" so just get him in the best situation for your character. Is he out in the open? Snipe, or Bastion from range. Is he close-range? Reaper, Zarya, McCree, even Mei.
>Zarya
Anyone who doesn't shoot her fucking shield.
>Junkrat to some extent
Just keep an eye on where the grenades and mines are landing.
>>342360054
That, and he almost always blows his hook on someone else. Roadhog is usually a free kill as soldier
>>342357613
Bait her into using the shield, back off, then attack when she is on cooldown. Her range is farther than you think with the primary fire if they can track you like an aim bot but the alt lob has fairly pathetic splash and can be avoided relatively easily. She does shit damage when fresh and if you bait the shield she's got nothing to escape with minus another teammate and is slow as fuck. There's nothing you can do about your teammates shooting at the shields like fucking retards though. A Zarya will walk in and out of spam to gain charge when confident they think they aren't in trouble but a smart one will just build charge on the friendly barrier and keep theirs in reserve.
Also the shield disappears early under pressure once its reaches the damage threshold to reach 1/2 charge so it isn't nearly as useful if they walk into a huge cluster fuck and get focused anyway.
At least that's what always happens to me. I have a terrible win/loss ratio with her so I might not know what I'm talking about.
>>342360174
>why didn't anyone pick a soldier or widow for that pharah the whole game?
>but anon from /v/ told me not to bother :<
>>342358984
>For the hundredth time, why would I teleport within earshot?
Either you're teleporting within earshot, or you have to walk up behind him in which case he hears your clunky-ass footsteps.
It's amazing how people think they're being sneaky with characters like Reaper and Roadhog, when they're both extremely audible.
>>342359685
do you actually play the game?
>>342357150
Just learn to aim your attacks and position right. Don't use your ult unless you have full health and are in a good position (i.e behind the enemy, with your team and not by yourself vs. their whole team.) I might be wrong but I think your shurikens don't have falloff damage (less damage over distance) so you can shoot them at turrets or snipers.
>>342359685
>when they cannot even design a shooter?
Oh boy, here comes the expert game designers at /v/.
>absolute garbage (like Bastion)
I take it a Pharah or 76 kept killing you instantly? Either that or you tried to turret in the same fucking spot over and over.
>>342354894
Winston counters Hanzo, widowmaker, Genji. becuase low HP, Low DPS, and are outclassed by winston's mobility
Reaper slaughters Winston. Roadhog also counters Winston because of his fuckhuge HP and healing bullshit. There is zero chance you can 1v1 him unless you ult and knock him off a cliff
>>342360039
The game is like, what, two weeks online and people have already figured out that those tips that say "you don't have a support" are complete bullshit.
This is not an MMO. You just pick shit that's appropriate to the situation. Sometimes, because Blizzard has cockroaches for designers, you pick 6 McReees. Sometimes it's two Winstons, Sieg, two Soldiers and a Genji.
Sometimes the payload is in front of your spawn (because good map design is overrated, apparently), so you pick two Junkrats, D'va, Roadhog, anything with an explosive ultimate.
>>342360394
Bastion really does become worthless once people know how to deal with him. Even a soldier 76 from far enough away can force him to move.
>>342360262
Any time. She'sbest girl, I wouldn't want people thinking she's OP. Just don't soot her shields unless you KNOW for a fact that you can both pop it and kill her. So... Unless you are Bastion and you have her out in the open.
>>342360429
>Winston counters Hanzo, widowmaker, Genji. becuase low HP, Low DPS, and are outclassed by winston's mobility
The only problem is getting past the choke really. Take kings row on offense for example, or anubis on offense. It usually takes at least 2 jumps to get up to them (one jump THROUGH the choke, and then another jump to whatever platform they're on)
If the choke point is completely littered with reinhardts, mercies, junkrats, soldiers and roadhogs is really really tough to get behind through it.
>enemy turret on the point
>can literally hit from out of range
>everyone refuses to do it and charges in and gets shredded
>have to plink away at it as Lucio
Fuck
>>342355942
Yes this! Playing him in solo he's great against most heroes at close range and to a lesser extent medium range. The only hero that seem to consistently out fight him is Reaper. But even then a good chain/headshot will kill him.
As soon as you're focussed in on by more than one hero at once you're fucked. Hes an enormous target and his only tool for bringing people into the range where he does big damage has a cooldown. The number of times a Mcree or Soldier 76 has just destroyed me with headshots because my chain was on cooldown is silly.
>>342360609
too goddamn real
>>342360570
Once people realize Bastion is best suited for flanking they'll realize how powerful it is.
Sure, retarded noobs will try to charge straight ahead, but good players will know where to position themselves.
>>342360639
No, haven't you read the thread? Reaper is a load, shitty character with shit health and DPS! Even unaware people who can't see him can easily beat him!
>>342354894
>counter-picking
I've been playing the same two characters since release.
>>342360807
i love playing bastion solo simply because of his heal. if you have a really dumb solo team, with no support or a support that does not know how to heal, saying fuck it going solo rambo bastion is actually pretty fun
>inb4 why dont you pick support
i like having fun when i play games
>>342360869
Way to be a drama queen, anon. I like Reaper, he's a great counter to tanks and he's great in close quarters.
He's just a shit Bastion counter when Pharah, Widow, Junkrat, Soldier etc. are much better at countering him.
>>342361007
>he's great in close quarters
Unless he fights a stationary turret that is best at medium to long ranges.
>>342360174
If your team has no long-range (unless you're doing some really heavy push on time), it's your own fault.
Compositions are still important, but counters barely are.
>>342360379
Do you even play shooters, anon?
It's okay, for many Overwatch players it's their first shooter. Blizzard knows their audience.
>>342360394
Bastion is considered a joke pick, m8. It's best suited for surprising the enemy team that you've even considered picking him.
>he doesn't work as a shooter designer
>>342361007
Reaper seems to exclusively be anti-tank/Tracer really.
What are some good counters to Reaper?
Pharah seems like the most obvious one.
>>342361131
A stationary turret with more hp, armor and DPS, I thought we were through this.
Also, Bastion has damage fall-off, he does chip damage in long range, his DPS is highest in close range.
>>342361143
>he doesn't work as a shooter designer
I am assuming you do? Care to show proof?
>>342361361
This is a completely moot point, but you've brought it up.
>show your credentials on 4chan, anon
>>342361206
Nah, Reaper's slow enough that she can just keep her distance. I'd rather have McCree or a good Roadhog. Junkrat works too if she's dumb enough to get trapped.
>>342361278
Realistically like almost 3/4 of the cast can kill him easily so long as he doesnt sneak up on you. Ive seen zero suit D.vas and Mercys ruin him from just far enough away.
>>342361278
Anyone med/long range who can catch him off-guard can at least make him wraith form. McCrees who can aim are his hardest counter, Soldier can make him run 99% of the time.
>>342361481
Problem is as a tracer keeping your distance means you're probably not going to kill the Reaper either though.
>>342356232
You don't have to flashbang him to stun him, only retarded mccrees throw fb directly at genji, aim for the ground in front of him.
Also with the new right click nerfs, start working on left clicking stunned people's heads, it's just as if not more effective than right clicking.
>>342361642
Not that guy but Tracer does much more damage in mid-range than Reaper. Reaper is almost exclusively a close range character.
She can also waltz around and disengage any moment she feels threatened by him. The best Tracer counter is a stun.
>>342361278
Zarya surprisingly. She's more lethal at close range and once you take damage just pop a shield. Soldier is decent against him since you can sprint away then fire. I've also been pretty successful with junk rat because when reaper exits wraithform it takes about a second and he's stationary, easy to pop with junkrat.
>>342361476
I never asked for credentials you moron.
I said proof. There are countless of ways to show proof that don't expose your identity you fuckward.
Other devs and reviewers have done so here before.
>>342361206
Reaper shits all over improperly guarded Mercy.
>nobody picked anyone with decent range
>Lucio just skating up the top of Lijiang tower until everyone else on his team comes back
Goddamn, I wish I could do that with Genji.
>>342354894
>Bastion
It's easier to list who can't counter him desu.
>D.Va
Be a good player.
>Reinhardt
Bastion can tear his shield apart while a tank buster like Reaper or McCree can deal massive damage quickly.
>Pharah
A good Widowmaker will shut down Pharah every time.
>>342361805
>anon, show me proof of your work on this completely meaningless conversation on 4chan
Is this autism? Have you abandoned your main argument just for this?
>>342361902
That's why you always make sure your team comp is good at the start.
>>342361975
So it was bullshit then?
You don't know jack shit about shooter design. Opinion discarded.
>>342361642
Tracers who 1v1 other flankers are generally incredibly useless anyway.
>>342357903
>>342358091
>don't shoot her shield
>team has a Torbjorn turret that keeps charging her, especially with his ult
>Junkrat shoots grenades all over the place she can walk into with her shield upI do this sometimes, works quite well
>she runs at an exploding meka with shield up, +50 charge hell yeah
>runs out in the open with shield up during a Soldier or Roadhog ult, it's not that obvious to a Soldier to see her shield's up because of the auto-aim symbol on her and Roadhog would have to aim somewhere else to not charge her up
>comes around the corner with no shield up, everyone thinks she's vulnerable and shoots her, nope, shield comes up and you'd need to have fast reaction to stop firing immediately
it's not that simple actually
Snipers do counter her quite good, forcing her to stay in cover.
focusing her down despite charging her up also works, it's "only" 600 hp to drain, not more than Roadhog has.
Bastion can rip her apart, but he can rip every tank apart tho.
Reaper can make short work of her when her shield's on cooldown, so can Roadhog, but you need to pay attention to when her shield was up and hook her afterwards, she's dead in two shots.
>>342361975
>Is this autism?
Throwing that word as a means of insulting others is autism on itself.
You might want to get checked.
>>342361954
>Reinhardt
Explosives can make a dent in his shield if you don't have a better option, and additionally Junkrat/Pharah can get their projectiles past his shield without much effort.
>>342361975
>calling another anon autistic and abandoning their main argument when your argument was based off when you said that blizzard doesn't know how to make a shooter and somehow you do
Alright, man.
>>342355893
You're a bad roadhog then
The devs said that if you hold LMB after you hook somebody it'll come before anything the other player can do anything
>>342359312
>20 tick (Bastion first realizes he's being hit) + reaction time + latency + 20 tick again (damage hitting your face).
