Why is there so much hate for NuDOOM? I'm honestly convinced it's just hipster fags on /v/ that weren't even alive when the original came out and are just hating it because Bethesda was the publisher. It's miles better than DOOM 2&3 and actually feels like a great return to form
>>342352231
here we go again
Ive played tons of the original DOOM games. I really liked nuDOOM.
I had no expectations for it when it came out, and then as I played through it, I find how much I really enjoyed it.
Some people are just forever salty OP.
Who the fuck hates nuDoom, it's great
The multiplayer is pretty awful but that doesn't have any impact on the single player
>>342352231
bizzaro /v/ go away
Ive worked on tons of the original DOOM games. My dad really worked for bethesda on nuDOOM.
I had no expectations for it when it came out, and then as I played through it, I find how much I really enjoyed it.
Some people are just forever salty OP.
>>342352231
i liked the demo but i am not paying $50aud for a sp 10 hour game with crashing issues
demo was fun
>>342352231
Why are there Templars from Hellgate: London hanging out with Doomguy?
>>342352231
It's not worth a full game price. Singleplayer is short, multiplayer might as well be nonexistent, its fucked up. I'd rather play ut4
>>342352461
Even the multiplayer is pretty fun imo, and id took control of it so it should be getting fixed and revamped in the coming months
>>342352716
>Singleplayer is short
And at this point, we knew that anon had not even bothered to look up the slightest bit of information on this game.
>>342352231
Honestly the only ones that hate NuDOOM are /v/ (You) whores.
>>342352716
10 ish hours is short to you? maybe for an rpg but not for a an FPS that only really drops the action 1 every 3 levels for a small story dump.
Hell the original doom can be beaten in like 20 mins.
>>342352231
It's at best uninspired and at worst generic, consolized and padded. The samey environments with a lack of interesting visuals, the lockdown monster rooms, the takedowns, the achievements and upgrades, the care that was taken to include references to everything from the original, including scripted monster infighting (because the mob and level design is too poor to allow for actual monster infighting)...it's a much poorer game than Doom 3, which at least attempted to break new ground with its horror approach, a thing not seen on PCs at the time. D44M just brings nothing to the table.
>>342352749
>>342352942
It is short and repetitive for the price. The game is what, 60 dollars or something? Maybe I'd pay for half the price. And as I said, they might as well removed the multiplayer completely, it's a halo-cod mashup.
>Tfw no DOOM guy armor for multiplayer
But why
>>342353034
plus theres the wub wub music.
>>342352231
Does NuDoom have the best modern fps level design?
>>342353093
that's djent my nigga
>>342352231
Hate? I'm seeing it praised pretty much everywhere. Even here
>>342353292
Yeah the cancerous child of metalcore and dubstep.
>People saying "It's better than Doom 3" like that means anything
Boiling shit is better than Doom 3.
That's about the only thing I'm salty about when it comes to the Doom series.
>>342353332
You literally know nothing of music, not that anon but djent has very little in common with dubstep. It's actually the child of prog metal and honestly if you didn't like DOOMs OST you must be a beta low test cuck.
>>342352231
I loved it. Currently replaying on nightmare. People who shitpost about it are just baiting.
If Doom Guy was a threat, why didn't Hell just sink his coffin-thing under lava a few hundred feet deep so one can reach him? Or kill him in his sleep? They did manage to contain Doom Guy, then why not go all the way?
Bought it on launch. The singleplayer is good but gets way too repetitiva in the second half. MP is garbage. It's worth 30$ for the SP and snapmap i'd say.
>>342353645
Tell me one memorable ost from new doom that isn't the theme which is just a djent remix edgelord
>>342353670
There is no lava in hell thats a meme.
>>342353670
>lava will stop doom guy's anger
lava would just make him madder
>>342352231
>miles better than doom 2
???
why did you even attempt this garbage?
>>342353404
>Doom 3 is bad
Pretty impressive for a game that came out in 2004.
>>342353093
There isn't any wub wub in the music. If anything it's closer to industrial than it is to dubstep. I thought the soundtrack was great and fitting to the atmosphere of the game.
Because it gives me a bunch of shit I don't actually want.
I don't want to use Snapmap because it's a shitty poor man's .wad that doesn't let me customize anything that would make a good Doom level pack. No new weapons, animations, graphics, sound, all you can do is change damage properties and level layouts. They're using Unreal Engine 4 I think for this game? It should've been fully moddable.
I don't want to play the multiplayer because there are tons of way fucking better multiplayer shooters out on the market and it doesn't do anything interesting enough to warrant me playing more of it.
The Doom campaign is alright, would be worth a quick runthrough, but I don't want to spend sixty dollars for eight hours of fun. If they sold all this shit separate I'd definitely buy the Doom campaign for 20 bucks. As it is now they're giving me a bunch of shit I don't want or need. It's like the yearly CoD releases; I'd buy your multiplayer for 20 bucks if I didn't have to deal with your shit campaign or your shitty zombies mode.
>>342353869
>Pretty impressive for a game that came out in 2004.
>same year as Far Cry
nope Doom 3 was shit.
The MP didn't give people much hope and neither did the lack of reviews.
>>342353404
I thought doom 3 was awesome.
>that scene where you encounter lost souls for the first time.
>>342353742
I don't have to because that's literally the point of the OST you retard, DOOM is a game about a pissed off guy that goes berserk instilling fear in the hordes of demons. The OST reflects that, I'd be disappointed if the music was anything else than what it is but I don't know why I should have to explain this to you.
>>342353941
>far cry
>the game where the perspective skews when you look up and down
this is a joke right
>>342353936
>They're using Unreal Engine 4 I think for this game?
wow one of the dumbest things i've ever seen typed onto /v/
>>342354238
>the game where the perspective skews when you look up and down
What?
>>342354295
only time i ever played the game it was like mid 90s build engine where the perspective/fov got fucked up when you looked up and down.
not the worlds best engine. doom 3 engine was a lot more advanced, unfortunately the ways in which it is advanced simply didn't matter, same as rage
>>342353012
Before I saw your post I had wondered how wrong a single person could be, how objectively incorrect one man's opinion was, and how abjectly false their dogma is.
Now? I no longer ask that question.
Thanks, fuckhead.
>only time i ever played the game it was like mid 90s build engine where the perspective/fov got fucked up when you looked up and down.
What? I had no problems with Far Cry.
>>342354387
>>342354387
What the hell are you talking about?
>>342354438
I think his opinion pretty much hit it on the head and I'm one of the few people who come to /v/ who have genuine clout in oldschool FPS, having been a big part of oldschool FPS communities and a competitive player etc
The monster infighting isn't scripted but everything else he says is accurate. The game isn't fun which is the main issue with it. It's a lot less fun than Rage, and executions are the main reason
>>342354438
you can't justify anything you said
>>342354546
>executions
optional.
>>342354238
Oh, they're using an in-house engine that hasn't been used for any other games.
They're also using id Tech 5 for many of their upcoming releases, and have never licensed this engine out or let people make mods for any of their games.
This is the company that made fucking Doom, which still gets new level packs every single fucking day.
Why is there so much hate for shills using expressions like 'why is there so much hate' in order to start a conversation about the game they're being paid to advertise?
I'm honestly convinced that these underage sources of revenue could be giving us more money, and just hate shills because they want to talk about video games!
It's much better to have endless spam from merchants than talking about interesting games and building up the culture that we're a part of.
>>342354745
>Core mechanic the whole game is built around
>"optional"
>>342354812
>This is the company that made fucking Doom, which still gets new level packs every single fucking day.
No it's not. id software that made Doom had...7 employees, I believe?
id software now has between 200 and 350 developers i've read, based on the timeline during a project.
What in the world do you think those two companies have to do with each other?
>>342353936
Agreed the MP is shit, the campaign is ok, the level designer is shit.
5/10 would buy $10 new top
>>342353040
Because he is unique
>>342354968
>Core mechanic the whole game is built around
>he thinks you need executions to complete the levels
lmao
>>342352231
i unironically agree with op
>>342353670
Kek he make a terminator joke when he is on lava I doubt it gonna Really die on it
NuDoom is great fuck off
>>342352231
Played the Demo and loved it. I just wish it wasnt $60 because I dont like the other half of the game (multiplayer).
New Doom exceeded my expectations. A touch of modern but still very fun. Guns are all great, enemies are decently designed. Tons of secrets.. solid 8/10 imo
>>342355335
having not touched the multiplayer i can say its worth it anon
>>342353936
>They're using Unreal Engine 4 I think for this game?
This board looks more like facebook every day. Retards everywhere.
>>342355015
>the level designer is shit.
How could they improve the level design? It's fucking top.
i played the demo and i found it to be.....
....just a shooter on mars? what's so special about it. see things shoot things, repeat.
Whoahahaha another daily betheshill thread. Fuck off, the game is pure dogshit and no one will buy your shit game. Enjoy the bomb.
>I've played the originals and I think the game is shit!
>I've played the originals and I think the game is good!
Why do people do this.
Having played a game that came out more than 20 years ago it's not a feat no matter when you did. It doesn't really help your argument hold more water either.
>>342352619
Works On My Machine(tm)
>>342353034
>repetitive
Can you name a shooter that isn't repetitive? New Doom does have issues but I really don't see how that sticks.
>>342354546
>executions
Just don't do em, they barely benefit you.
My big issues with the game are that enemies drop too much health when you're low on health, and that single enemies get stun locked too easily, which makes them a non threat in 1 on 1. Something like a hellknight should only be stunned by a hard hitting weapon, and even then they shouldn't get stunned after every hit.
Beyond that it was a really enjoyable shooter that had a full focus on movement based shooting, it's just a shame that the game on UV is really too easy and forgiving.
>>342353742
There are people who don't like the nuDoom OST?
>>342355960
>single enemies get stun locked too easily
What difficulty did you play and what were you using exactly, I was on NM and I had to rely on the plasma gun stun secondary plenty of times.
Nu doom is boring as fuck, the music, gameplay, the people who like it are all shit.
>boring as fuck arena maps throughout the whole game
>shitty perk system
>horrible multiplayer
>can break the game itself for using the perk system
>easy as fuck
>enemies just sit there waiting to be killed, ai is shit
>buggy as fuck
>>342352749
>>342352942
I'd say it took my about 6 and i didn't exactly rush through it
the ending feels more like it should have been the halfway point but they also never really build up to anything throughout the whole campaign
>>342356074
Listening to it in youtube doesn't really make it justice, it's best listened to while playing, with those dynamic changes and all.
>>342355787
Yeah, trying to claim you're some sort of old FPS expert with impeccable taste is kinda autistic really. Unless you can come up with coherent arguments as to why something is bad/good then you should just stop.
>>342355913
>>342352619
The shit was buggy for me until I updated my drivers, I think it still has issues here and there.
>>342354968
>Core mechanic the whole game is built around
You can beat the game without doing a single execution, that's not how core mechanics work.
>>342356074
its just generic butt distorted guitars. very weak.
>>342353742
BFG Division is a neat song that fits the game well. The music is alright, unsure why people are flipping a shit over it. Doom 1 and 2 just stole songs and made midi versions of them.
I'd take Doom 4's ost over Quake's and Doom 64's ost.
>>342356101
UV? I didn't think Nightmare was unlocked from the get go.
>>342356074
it's good but there is nothing catchy or memorable about it like the original midi guitar riffs
BioShock infinite is a better shooter. Same arena shit. Think on that.
>>342352231
Look, I LOVE D44M, but:
>Better than DOOM 2
Completely different takes on shooting demons, no point in comparing. D44M is based around rotations and juggling weaponry, DOOM 2 is more methodical, less playful when it comes to guns.
>>342352231
>Miles better than doom 2
Jesus fucking Christ
I even like d44m but fuck you man
>>342352942
A 100% kill run of each doom episode takes a half hour per episode at least.
>>342356548
>I didn't think Nightmare was unlocked from the get go.
It is, but it's tinted red so people usually think it is, they should change that.
It's ULTRA NM the one locked.
>>342356074
It's a lame nobody trying to emulate Trent reznor. Of course it's not very good
>>342356915
>It is, but it's tinted red so people usually think it is, they should change that.
I mean it is indeed unlocked, but people think it is not.
>>342356925
>Trent Reznor
>Meshuggah plus thrash riffs with electronic influences.
>>342352231
You half right. It is hipsters, but it's also the retarded nostalgiafags with their limited subjective ''older is better no matter what'' mentality. They should be ignored, but this is /v/, the shittiest board on the internet. So yea.
>>342357021
Yes, Trent is the face of industrial metal
https://youtu.be/_nRF5jl369A
>>342357185
Meshuggah isn't industrial metal you moron
>>342357162
>''older is better no matter what''
it's really the case of better is better actually
>>342356207
>shitty perk system
literally just a gimmick there is no must have perk you tardo but keep parroting /veeeeee/ stuff.
>>342356717
>>342356756
Don't people kinda shit on Doom 2 for it's fuckey level design? I played through Doom 1 and 2 for the first time a few years ago but I can't really remember any stages sticking out as particularly shitty.I do remember getting stuck a few times, maybe Doom 2 has more confusing/convoluted maps?
>>342353012
The "horror approach" was Doom 3 saying "we want the half life audience"
>>342352231
demo was great but I'm not going to pay $60 for a 6-8 hour campaign I'll only play two or three times.
>>342352231
I hope they give it a discount during summer sale. Otherwise its just too expensive
>>342357162
UT4 is new and based as fuck so
>>342357668
I think the fucking gravity gun in the expansion was the "we want the half life audience"
>>342357596
I don't really know why people complain about DOOM 2 -or if they even do-, but my point is that even though both games are in the same series, it's not a fair comparison.
Just like trying to compare DMC to DMC3.
>>342354438
instead of trying to refute his claims, you just opt to say "wow ur wrong fag"
if the general kind of nuDOOM player is someone like you, then i'm not at all surprised people shit-talk it so much, if only out of spite
>>342352231
My comp can't run it and it's too expensive for something with shit multiplayer (i.e., replay value)
>>342352231
it was a good game
>>342358090
>image
Anyone complaining about the price is just buttmad they can't pirate it
>>342358383
What is your problem?
>>342352231
MP is generic and really fucking boring which is unacceptable for an iD game. Otherwise thr SP is great.
>>342358383
i like browsing 4chan even when not within the confines of my own home
bite me
>there will never be a Doom 4 version of seinfeld.wad
>somehow this is OK
>>342358604
>>342358735
REMOVE PHONE POSTERS
>>342358604
Generally that you're a bunch of shitheads who only use phones because you're all ban evaders.
>>342356717
Best opinion. D44M is pretty good but also pretty different from the originals, although I also think they do a good job in keeping the spirit of Doom for the most part.
D44M isn't perfect and could use some improvements in my opinion but it is, in overall, a solid SP experience and a big step in the right direction.
>>342358824
yeah because the quality of my posting is somehow going to drastically change because instead of typing with a keyboard i'm typing with my phone
you anti-phone posters make no sense
>>342358824
>easy as fuck job
>able to post on my phone from work so I can kill time
>jobless neets being angry about this
Kek
>>342359252
>>342359413
>normies
>quality of my posting
>>342359252
Are you retarded? Yes it fucking will. You're limited to writing short meme replies because touch screen phones are cancer
>>342359235
I enjoyed the fuck out of the single player, but I went in with like 0 expectations so that probably helped. It kinda gave me a Metroid Prime-ish vibe somehow. Shooting feels good, enemies are pretty diverse overall, you're encouraged to run and gun and you need to prioritize enemies. It's a solid movement based shooter and there hasn't been a good movement based shooter out in forever.
If it goes on sale soon I'd completely recommend it.
>>342359846
there's no connection between those two things
>>342359846
>Implying
Maybe if you're a lazy, underage and impatient faggot. I wrote this post on my cellphone >>342359235
Also, people calling it ''mobile phone'' should fuck right off.
>>342360123
>There's no connection between the length of posts and their quality ceiling
You're retarded
>>342360261
>I wrote two sentences, that's a lot!
Holy fucking shit, I can't believe you're serious
>>342359623
I've probably been posting on this board longer than you kiddo
>>342360420
>Holy fucking shit, I can't believe you're serious
It's more than you written in every fucking post you fucktard.
>>342360420
that's just an arbitrary implication
posts don't always need to be on par with the length of say, an essay to get their point across in an articulate manner
>>342355207
You also don't need to shoot in most Doom 1-2 levels. Are you gonna say it's optional too?
>>342358718
iD took it over so it should be getting revamped soon and made GOAT
Grew up with the old Doom games, Doom 3 was alright.
I fucking hated the MP beta, like I thought it was going to be fucking awful.
Friend got a extra copy.
Holy shit the SP was fun as fuck. Last fun SP FPS I played was Serious Sam First/Second Encounter HD.
>>342357596
Doom 2 maps were never my favorite. They felt more like wads made for doom 1. The new monsters though were great - hoping we see some Arachnotrons in the next doom iteration.
>>342361431
Doom 2 is just downright unenjoyable compared to 1
>>342361924
I'm replaying through 1 right now and the level design is downright amazing. It's a shame that Doom 2 added all those monsters but has slapped together levels.
>>342353783
Genius. Why didnt someone make a lava based weapon for him.
>>342354745
>optional.
Stop this meme. I like them, but not using them is gimping yourself. Cosmetics ate optional, high graphics settings are optional, calling executions optional is misleading.
>>342352231
I just refunded it a few days ago. 90 Minutes in, was just a bit after the foundry. I liked the level design but found that all the guns felt like pea shooters and didnt have the kick they should. That and spamming the same 3 animations to finish off enemies and get health gets really old really quickly. It was okay but I can't justify spending $105 on it, so I'm glad I got a refund. I might try it again once it's on sale for <$40
Played the demo, didnt hate it but i think the pinata mechanic was not that fun
>>342361404
This
Not only were the alphas and beta bad and terribly received, that was ALL THEY ADVERTISED. I almost want to call it a fluke that the SP ended up being a 8/10 game, with a few issues here and therefuck the bosses and that 'ending'
It's been said before but I really hope that marketing team got fired for making this game look like garbage.
>>342352231
i havent talked about it before.
i skipped it because bethesda can't be trusted not to fuck things up.
i played the demo.
1. my old ass graphics card can't handle it on low (rip)
2. wow press x to KILLTACULAR is obnoxious as it sounds
3. Otherwise a solid corridor shootan game
I'll probably buy it when I upgrade my graphics card. It seems like a good game. Not a great game that everyone expects with a name like Doom. But not a bad game.
>>342363660
The marketing team deserves to get fired and hopefully never find jobs in marketing again for how awful they did
>>342364018
>2. wow press x to KILLTACULAR is obnoxious as it sounds
its symptomatic that the children who grew up playing CoD with press x to win QTEs have ingrained this sort of nonsense in video games for a long time to come.
>>342364018
>>342364419
>this completely ignore-able mechanic is why the game is bad
>>342364552
>this completely gives you double health pickups part f the basic game doesn't matter because I said so
you'd be funnier if you were arguing that adding jump is fine because you don't have to jump. not that I care about that particularly
>>342352231
It is indeed good but after I finished my nightmare run I saw no reason to hold onto it. Multiplayer actually is garbage. Who are the dudes next to him in OP?
>>342364946
Did you actually play the game? Glory kills give you fuck all in terms of health drops.
It does nothing new.
>>342352231
Rented it from Redbox because I was skeptical, finished it had a good time, bought it because it was on sale for $40 and I wanted to support a good game.
>>342352231
SP was alright, levels like the Argent Tower completly fuck up the gameflow and the pistol is a disgrace but since I paid 30$ and got 10 hours out of it, I guess its alright.
>>342352719
Multiplayer's alright. It would seriously benefit from faster movement speed and jump distance though.
>>342353404
Doom 3 has great lighting, the best plasma gun and some neat monster designs at least
Otherwise that game could not be more unremarkable, especially in comparison to other FPS that came out in 2004
