Sure-fire signs that your team is going to lose in Overwatch.
>Someone picks Hanzo
>Two people pick Hanzo
>On Attack
>Triple Hanzo on Nepal
>No Healer
>D. Va>We win
What the fuck.
>Game on Anubis
>Faggot insta picks Hanzo
>He is actually good and we win the game
This actually happened.
>>342351643
When the Hanzo is not even lv 20.
>>342351643
Just played 2 matches against a team of friends with random and it was the worst shit ever
>Other team picks 6 Soldier 76
>I'm the only tanker in my team
>We have 2 healers in the team and for some reason none of them are healing
>Our widow misses every shot, them picks >Hazno and proceeds to miss every shot again
>It's round 2 on attack
>Other team has 6 Tobjorn
>Pick Reinshart to shield everyone
>No one in the team has a widow, hanzo or junkrat to fuck their sentries
>Instead our team ahs a tracer, a McCree and a Reaper
>Reaper changes to bastion later thinking the 6 fucking sentries wont notice him turning into a turrent
The lack of cooperation on the PS4 is fucking awful, most of them are probably toddlers, none plays paying attention to the teams composition people just pick whatever they feel like it and go for it.
I lost count of how many times i destroyed turrets and no one in the team was going for the point.
I regret buying this game, it is a great game but the community on the PS4 is fucking awful.
>>342352148
>Console
You deserved it.
>>342352148
>turrent
You must be 18 to post on this board.
>Someone playing Overwatch competitively
That's a sure fire sign of autism at least
>Game starts
>Hanzo widowmaker and genji instapicked
>>342352304
>>342352274
it all makes sense
>>342352643
Don't forget 2 tracers
>>342352643
>The last two people pick D.va and Tracer
>I have to pick support to babysit these retards
When will the suffering end?
>>342352148
> the game is awesome it's the players who are shit
:\>>342351965
>>342352827
>People still bother picking tanks and supports in a quick play team of idiots
You aren't going to win, pick whoever you feel like and try to work on your averages.
>mercy is pocketing the reinhardt with his shield up
Snipers in this game are the worst teammates, even if they are good snipers (which is very rare). So many times my team has lost because dipshit picks Hanzo or Windowmaker and won't change to a different hero when we need that push into the cap to win.
These are some of the things they say when you tell them to switch to a useful hero:
>but I've got three gold stars!
>I think I'm holding my own (right as the enemy team pushes the payload the last meter to victory)
Hanzo is the best character in the entire Overwatch series. Fucking hell, you could put him in Quake III or Counter-Strike or Halo or any of the other hardcore RTSes he would probably be the best character there, too. Hanzo is a fucking beast, probably more powerful than Shin Akuma from Super Turbo, and he'd probably 9-1 Sagat, assuming Sagat has any chance of winning at all. But seriously though, Hanzo may be the most powerful character in any game ever. The people complaining that Hanzo is too weak would never say that shit to his face in real-life. Hanzo is a fucking machine.
>They pick 6 Tracer
>Me and my friend insist that everyone on an offense or defense hero switches to McCree
>Nobody does
>We Lose
>>342353407
>Lose game
>Better blame the guy playing the sniper class to make myself look good
>defend the cart
>nobody goes healer
>game actually becomes close
>go winston when the cart reaches the end
>actually win
>>342353778
No team needs a sniper when they are 3 meters away. We also had two snipers for that last quote.
>>342351729
anytime I see two people picking a character that was already shit for the map/game type to begin with, I immediately switch to that champ, and usually it starts a snowball of everyone else picking the champ or making on of the original 2 switch to something less retarded
If Im going to lose because of retarded hero picking I might as well have silly fun with it
>you have gold objective kills as Lucio
hanzo is not only the most broken hero in the game where the non-skilled gets head shots repeatedly from flinging random arrows, hes also the biggest sanic the hedge autism tier magnet. they should change the hitboxes so only a skilled player would dare to pick him.
>>342353850
>ilios match
>widowmaker and hanzo instalocked
someone fucking end me
>Enemy Bastion and Widowmakers are just constantly chilling at the back
>Ally Genjis and Reapers constantly on the front line and never flank
Fucking why. If you're just going to do that just go 76.
Think I lost 9 straight games the other day. Always had Hanzo on the team when we were attacking. Every single game...
>>342354075
>hanzo is not only the most broken hero in the game
He is balanced, maybe even underpowered.
>>342354090
You forgot Torb.
We had a guy that said "This map is actually really good for Torb." Our whole team was going WUT????
And inevitably we're all being steamrolled back to our spawn so this dwarf just sets his turret up 3 feet out of the spawn to get some kills, instead of picking an actual useful character.
>>342354229
yes he is garbage. That is the point. At least one on attack every single match. Literally any other hero works better.
>>342354229
i disagree that hes underpowered, but thats not the issue. no one should be able to get headshots by randomly throwing arrows. they should rework him a bit to make him more skill based rather than spam based.
>>342354090
>tfw Genji, Hanzo and Widowmaker instalocked
>>342353351
>Mercy is continually healing the rein as he tries to get someone to shoot the fucking torb turret
It's okay to pull out your pistol, Mercy players. You can switch right back to your easy-mode healy beam. Just don't leave your fucking tank hanging when the turret is pinging his shield.
>Game begins in 3, 2, 1...
>Mei on your team ice walls the exit
>be mercy
>No tanks
>Hanzo, widow, two Tracers, and torb
>Damage boost hanzo
>Body shots are now instakills
We held the choke after the 1st checkpoint in Gibraltar. What I thought would be a shitty match ended up being a great one.
>>342354394
It's not just Hanzo, m8. The head hitbox in Overwatch is twice the size of your head so you can hit someone a few inches away from their head and still get a headshot.
I cannot understand peoples thoughts on 4chan, Hanzo is both an awful hero who doesn't contribute, but he also needs a hitbox nerf which would make him even worse. What do people want?
>about to finish off the enemy team's Mercy
>friendly Mei throws up an ice wall that blocks me off
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i only have fun with this game if i casually start it up, refuse to play with my "hardcore" friends and ignore the cancerous autism chat
it's not a real game to me at this point, just a minigame i use while i'm doing something else (like when i'm queuing for a dota game, finding a SFV match and so forth)
everybody i know that plays this game has become an insufferable cunt who tryhards in this casual hellhole and honestly believes this game takes more than an iota of skill than real arena shooters.
i hate blizzard.gameplay is still fun tho
>opposing team has 3 torbjorns and 2 bastions
>>342354514
yea but other heroes put themselves at risk or they have to go in and get damaged or whatever. hanzo just peaks and spams arrows over and over until he gets a head shot, usually on a low hp fast hero zipping around. its stupid as fuck.
>>342354434
Genji I can somewhat understand because he can reflect on point to hold it for a few seconds longer and quickly get up Walls
>>342354668
Genjis randoms usually suck. Takes alot of games to gitgud as him.
>>342354652
and not to mention his arrows have a slow travel time and a longer hitbox so you are much more likely to get a headshot than from an instant bullet like the other guns have.
>>342354552
>about to lob grenades into enemy spawn as defense junkrat
>I BILD GR8 WALL :)
>engage enemy
>eventually die
>when respawned see chevrons all over the map yet nowhere near the objective
Characters that instantly induce skepticism:
>Genji
>Widow
>Hanzo
>d.Va
d.Va is a special kind of shit though. Not as game ruining as the others, but any time I'm waiting for someone to fill the tank slot, I'm hoping they won't pick d.Va. She's the least tanky tank there is.
>about to get le epic trolled/bodied over your stupidity tier
>Symmetra on KoTH
>>342354561
Sounds like you're the insufferable cunt to me.
>>342351643
Sure-fire ways to start a thread like a fucking BuzzFeed article
1) start the thread like above
2) have the topic be about nothing worth discussing
3) be a stupid vacuous cunt
4) play hanzo
>>342355075
>team needs a tank
>that guy who picks d.va
>>342355075
This whole tank idea is a myth. The only real tank is Reinhardt. Winston and D.Va are disrupters. Roadhog might as well be in offense category. Zarya is just a versatile hero that can support, do damage and take some damage.
>>342352148
It'd be fine if they just added a quick chat system, balanced the heroes and fixed the fucking aiming. I actually enjoy not having to deal with fps vets but the laziness of blizzard is irking me
>>342352827
Proceed to play Zenyatta, get gold in healing and kills.
>people pick offense characters on defence
>and vice versa
fucking why
I get that some heroes are pretty versatile, Pharrah on defence works, Junkrat on Attack works.
Toblerone on attack is retarded, GenjI on Defence is retarded
why do these people do this to me
The problem is people play Hanzo like he's Widowmaker when he's more of a mid-range character. Also the fact that pretty much every thing Hanzo does is inconsistent. He's also outshines by two characters. If you want to snipe Widow is better and if you want to play the mid range game 76 is better.
>>342351643
>Sure-fire signs that your team is going to lose in Overwatch.
>I'm on your team
...
I suck. :>
>>342354552
>dorado offense
>someone picks mei
>it's some asshole I set to avoid before
>walls us in at game start
>walls between healer and low hp team mates
>walls off teammates trying to run from gangbangs
>walls off enemies to save them from our number advantage
>walls people into enemy ults
>walls us out from payload when no chance to teamkill
>sprays just enough to tag for elims, never freezes enemies, ults, or shoots ice bolts
>only blocks when shot at to leave other team members vulnerable
>enemy team learns and never targets her
>somehow overcome most of their 7v5
>late game, ten seconds to finish delivery
>enemy team loaded up on point
>pop boosters and dva ult
>mei instantly walls in front of me
>too close to run around corner now
>die to own ult
>lose
>mei gets a card for top elims
>7 votes
>mei: lol how do you dumb f.ucks not beat a mei on elims pathetic desu
>rest of team takes the bait and chimps out
>quit to desktop
>uninstall game
>uninstall battle.net
>started running again and eating better
>every day seems a thousand times longer without Overwatch
>can finally get things done in my free time
Thanks for removing avoid, Blizzard. Otherwise I would still be stuck in your fucking rat maze piece of shit game.
>>342355324
not at all.
there's a difference between a man who doesn't want to put up with bullshit and people yelling at their friends (not even me, I hear it go on over discord) over why they're playing certain heroes over other ones and so on.
for fucks sake, they don't even do this in dota. this is an overwatch-exclusive thing.
>>342353351
>Mercy still heals when everyone is full hp
Fuck, it's not like every hero has skill introduction videos, right?
>>342355075
what do you fucking expect when people pick the meme character
>>342356000
Genji on defense is fine. It's not like you lose flanking opportunities because your defending. A good character doesn't become bad just because you switch positions.
>>342354485
On defense, I icewall their exit after one guy went through.
Isolating ennemies is goat play, especially when it's a mercy.
>>342356000
desu it hardly matters what the game classes people as, basically everyone is fine on A or D. Defense seems to have more options overall but not a huge difference.
>join game late
>Genji, Genji, Genji, Mercy, Hanzo
God fucking damn it people get sour about hero choices in this game
Stop being so mad
>>342356241
there are better choices
in the grand scheme of things, you are not contributing your max potential to the team if you pick genji on defense
i can only justify it if they have a bastion sitting on the payload, and snipers should take care of that anyway
YOOGA WAKA TAKA!
https://youtu.be/bA5rjXy6y0I
I've noticed some people are capable of shit I can't even begin to reproduce
>Bulletproof mercy
>A roadhog that can jump over reinhardt's charge
>Genji surviving outside of spawn at all
Best I can do is wallride for days as Lucio, in some of the most annoying places so we get the point after a while
I had a game yesterday where we had to fight an attack Widow that made our own Widow look like a joke.
They got to the studio in Hollywood and she just kept shooting anyone who came near the door. We were basically forced to stand behind the walls and not come out...
Which is exactly what we should have been doing anyway. Their Widow could hit shit but she never took an aggressive stance and forced us back, she just watched over the payload. Even her team was more concerned with locking us down and defending the payload than actually moving it.
I think that's the problem a lot of newcomers have with this game, they don't actually seem to understand the point. They're more concerned with not dying in the final seconds of the match than touching the point and forcing overtime. They decide to set up at the enemy spawn and waste their one advantage instead of sitting near or directly on the point where choke points favor them and spawn advantage isn't massive. And in this case they sit near, not on, the payload and think they're doing a good job because the enemy is "too scared" to leave the building.
>>342351643
>being this dependant on team composition
News flash, a perfectly balanced team cannot crack a defending turret spam team. Learn the hard counters and/or git gud.
>>342356520
>stop getting mad when your team has 2 hanzos on attack :^)
>>342356561
Why not? Seriously why is Genji bad on defense. Your still doing your normal job of disrupting the backline and targeting the healers. That's like saying McCree or Reaper are bad on defense.
The only hero in the game that I think I. The game that's map dependent is Symmetra.
Other then that it should be the enemy team that tells you which hero would be best for each role.
>when you're on defense and your team doesn't choose any defensive characters
>Playing as D.Va
>Anytime I see an enemy Mercy I instantly boost after her
>Enemy Mercy complains in chat that I'm targeting him
>>342357215
>playing as D.Va
>>342356715
>Best I can do is wallride for days as Lucio, in some of the most annoying places so we get the point after a while
>be Pharah
>knock enemy Lucio into the well on Ilios
>hmmm, no kill. That's funny.
>a minute later
>up pops Lucio from the well
>kills me
That fucking nigger was wall riding around for an entire minute and I don't even know how he got out of there.
>>342356884
He's looking at defense as a static thing. That offense side wll only ever pick certain characters, many of whom Genji is not strong against. That's what he meant by "there are better choices."
In the event an offense team brings along a bastion, torb, widow, really any artillery style defense character, Genji is great on defense. Even against some tank heavy comps, he really shines.
But if they bring a McCree, 76, Pharah, Rein, Zarya, Lucio, yeah. That guy is right that there are better choices then.
He's just failing to understand there are people who make atypical picks.
i'll carry you and your shit friends on hanzo faggot
>playing overwatch
>everyone picks hero
>on defense
>go bastion
>some guy waits until the last second to pick
>he picks bastion
>as soon as he gets in game, he says we need a mercy
>tell him since he picked last, and that he picked a hero I already was, it would make sense for him to go mercy
>get cursed at
>playing attack
>waiting to see what the team picks so I can either go support or tank
>3 people pick snipers
>other two are D.va and Rein
>pick lucio
>somehow manage to do alright
>the tanks know what they are doing
>the snipers are at least getting kills
>its coming down to the final seconds
>we almost have the point captured
>everyone is dead except for the two snipers
>they just stay on their ledge, waiting for someone to go defend the point so they can snipe them
>they don't bother to step on the point to get an overtime
>we lose
>next game
>two faggots on mic are screaming, demanding everyone go Torbjorn
>they are clearly friends
>everyone goes Torbjorn except me
>I try to go a healer so we at least have a chance
>the enemy team just counterpicks D.va
>we lose right away
Competitive can't come soon enough. Why they released this game without it, I'll have no idea.
>>342356715
Additionally
>Reinhardt's able to hit you with their hammer at extreme ranges
>Genji's shooting you from behind walls
>Soldier 76's shooting you before you're even out of spawn
And I swear to fuck, I keep getting sub 30 players on my team, while the other team get level 75s to even a 2 star yesterday.
>>342357265
She'sfunI always switch to better tanks if we need it so I'm not total cancer
>numbani defense
>go Winston because why not and want to get better at other tanks than the main man Reinhardt
>match starts, leap in, start harrassing entire team, get 1-2 kills
>mercy healing me so last for a fair amount of time but eventually get focus fired down
>get warning point a under attack
>it is or at least almost is their entire team
>I'm the only one to show up to defend the point
Does anyone else get into games where you just wonder what the rest of your team is doing? If I'm by myself trying to defend the point from let's even say 4 people, that means 2 people are keeping my 5 teammates occupied
Matchmaking seriously seemed broken yesterday
>>342356000
The best defense is a good offense and vice versa.
If you're using an "advancing defensive line" strategy it's key that everyone stays alive. Once one person dies the whole phalanx falls apart.
Inversely, if you seek to defend by using offense characters you'll want to go deep beyond the point and ambush them as they spawn. The key here is to take out integral members like support.
>>342355507
Hi friend! :)
>>342357461
>not committing
>>342357265
I've found that D. Va is the best way to cheese wins in Weebland.
>>342353517
But can he defeat Madara Uchiha?
>>342351643
>Multiple low level Genjis
>>342356791
They should remove Torbjorn from the game completely desu.
Turrets are for retards who are somehow incapable of actually playing a FPS. At the very least they need nerfing to shit, they lock on immediately, with heroes like Tracer using blink or recall you can see on kill cams the turret is already aiming where you're about to appear, and aside from that the turn speed is near instantaneous. Oh, and as I learned just recently, at level 3 (molten core) the turret can withstand 3 shots from Bastion's Ult.
Remove from game, teach people to actually learn to play.
Vid related, would've been a webm but file size too large
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imxV9RJMU2M
>>342357357
Genji can handle his own against most of the characters you listed though. The only two that really shit on homie Winston and Zarya. 76 can be annoying because of his heal and it taking him out of combo range in some cases and Pharah can be annoying because of her ability to just fly away but it's like that for a lot of characters.
>>342355507
d.va works great if you play with friends who can communicate.
Just go around the corner with E active and let your team mates do the rest.
>>342357267
Jump and wall climb.
>>342355507
>>342357265
D.Va's fucking good. People just don't know how to play as her.
Still needs a buff though. Even if you get all head shots at close range she takes to long to kill people
>It's a guy sees you doing good as a character so he switches to him episode.
So fucking annoying because a lot of times I feel like I should switch just so I don't bring the team down and I know that fucker won't switch.
>player has the name of the character they're playing
>>342351643
>SURE FIRE
I GET IT, IT'S CAUSE HE USES A BOW!
>>342357265
D. Va is the best option to dismantle a heavily guarded point.
Many times I wish other players would go D. Va so we can just wipe out their sentry and turret nest in one go.
>>342357963
They said there either buffing her damage or survivability. Not both.
>>342351643
Any more of these edits?
>>342358139
I'd want a damage boost. D.Va's already hard to kill (if you're good) she just takes forever to kill people
>some lvl 3 noob yesterday
>he's really polite and sounds like a nice enough guy on the mic
>picks Genji....twice
>>342357768
Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but what I got out of that was
>he can solo all those people though
>except 4 of them
>but that's not most of them
>they'll never group up anyway
I don't understand this post.
I genuinely do not get what you are trying to communicate.
>>342358320
Is it me, or do the Anime Bros. specifically bring out the vocal shitters?
>>342358303
They said they are kind of against the damage because early in development she did do more damage and games just resulted into D.Va flying into people's face killing them in seconds and flying away and there wasn't much you could do to stop it.
>>342355707
This. People expecting D.va or Winston to "tank" don't know what they're talking about.
D.va is a flanker who can charge in and take out an enemy or two (within 8m, her guns vaporize anyone). Her boost lets her get in and get out, also several maps are really good for her to use the boost to bump them off of cliffs. Defense Matrix is just to let her stick around for a couple more seconds, get the enemy to waste a few shots, possibly reload, bide a bit more time to recover the Boost.
Winston checks in, drops his shield, engages in some monkey business in the middle of the enemy group and jumps away. He's less likely to kill anyone given how weak his lightning gun is, but he is going to draw a shitload of attention for the 6-ish seconds he's hopping around.
Both of them have similar goals, making the enemy turn their backs to the rest of your team so they can close in. This is in contrast to Rein and Zarya, frontline defenders who directly protect their allies, actual "tanks".
And yes, Roadhog is really more of a Defense hero. He singles out squishy characters with a Hook+Shotgun, but most of all the best effect of the hook is that it interrupts many Ultimates. His ultimate of course, similarly to Winston, is more about knocking everyone around rather than outright killing them (unless you push them into a corner and can chew them apart rather than have them being pushed away).
D.va and Winston are stellar when used properly on KOTH and Escort maps.
>>342358131
>D. Va is the best option to dismantle a heavily guarded point.
Are you kidding? I've watched D.va call in a new mech and have to jump out of it immediately because she's surrounded by 3 people. If you're talking about her Ult, sure, it's the most OP Ult of the game, but actually just playing her? She's probably the worst tank, can only shield herself and can't heal at all.
>>342357768
He wasn't saying Genji can't farm some sick elims off of those characters, he was saying other characters would be better for ripping a fat potg for your team against that comp.
Used language you may understand more as a retard, hope you get it
>>342358460
If it takes 15 minutes to kill people instead of 30 I'd be cool with that
>>342357963
She's OP just not a team player.
A good D. Va boosts into the carnage, matrix up, and starts taking out key opponents.
If your D. Va is standing around the rest of your team you're doing it wrong. She's meant for solo ambushes and retreating.
I wouldn't even recommend zenyatta or mercy hang around her because of the liability.
>>342352742
Two tracers are almost always on a single team in the ptr ranked servers right now. Seems to be pretty great. That being said I can't stand when a pub picks tracer, genji, hanzo, widow
>Enemy team has 2 Hanzos and a Widowmaker
>Pick Zenyatta and win making play of the game with right click.
>>342358585
>Calling in a mech when you're under fire
Shit D.Va
>most OP Ult
It's the easiest ult to avoid
>>342358303
>hard to kill.
Maybe if she never shoots her guns ever. She becomes free kill when she goes into combat and starts shooting.
Thank god I got this game for free :^)
>>342358668
Yeah, exactly. As D. VA, it helps immensely to retreat to medpacks/healer with your boost.
>>342351643
>Your Hanzo: Gets mabye 3 kill by the end of the match, cant use his ult right for shit
>Their Hanzo: Headshots your entire team all at once while ulting
>>342358668
You know what, you summed her up right. She's basically a Tracer with more health
>>342357702
>Turrets are for retards who are somehow incapable of actually playing a FPS
overwatch is for retards who are somehow incapable of actually playing a FPS
>>342358820
how did you get DS3 for free?
>>342358820
oh shit what's up brother
>>342351729
Even 1 Hanzo on attack is a bad sign.
>>342351643
>playing with a bunch of friends
>one of them invites their friend to make it a full team
>he instalocks hanzo most rounds and is a completely useless
>hassle him about it
>he ends up getting pissed off at me
Why is it always hanzo/genji/widow players who always do this?
>>342358907
My roommate bought it and hates it
>>342358668
She's not even remotely overpowered and her damage is incredibly inconsistent. Anyone with better reactions than a snail will move as soon as they hear your guns start up.
>>342358859
She's like if Winston and tracer combined to form a terrible character.
>>342358738
>It's the easiest ult to avoid
Doesn't make it any less OP. Most characters are slow, if you're not right next to some potential cover, you're dead. the blast radius is fucking huge, it doesn't even have to hit you directly, I've been clipped going round a corner and still died. Oh, and it can't be stopped from happening. If you're lucky you can avoid it sure, but you can't destroy it or stop it detonating. Just about every other Ult can be stopped early by killing the player or (like with Junkrat) the weapon.
>>342358668
Too bad it takes twenty years to build her terrible ultimate. Meanwhile other tanks get theirs stupidly quick while doing great damage and offer much better team assistance
>>342358585
If you manage both her meters you can get a lot of mileage out of her. ( 2 full mech health bars and 1.9 D.Va health bars)
Also the fact you can trigger her ult after your tanks run out of health is awesome. Getting the mech back is more risky and you're going to want to call for it after sustaining 2/3rd damage just to be safe.
>tfw you kill someone by calling the mech onto their head
>>342359025
Nah Temple of Anubis, it's good to have a sniper to clear out the inevitable Hanzo-Widow Maker-Torbjorn combo up on the bridge. Plus, his sonic arrow is incredibly useful to alerting your team to enemies if you can't communicate
>play a few matches normally
>suddenly my killcams become like pic related
>even my replays from earlier matches that were normal are now like this
What the fuck happened?
>>342356000
soulja can be effective on any game mode on any map
>>342358454
>>342358454
What in saying is most of the people you listed wouldn't make me go I shouldn't pick Genji.
Winston is a reason to not pick Genji. 76 and Zarya can be annoying because of there ability to disrupt your resets with healing and barriers. McCree actually used to be the biggest reason to not pick him but every McCree I run into now sucks.
The teams I actually find most annoying to fight are tank heavy teams because of all the health they have.
>Play of the game
>VAPEGOD as Bastion
>PPPRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>342357667
Which Madara are you talking about?
>>342359136
Icewall stops damage, rein shield stops damage, zarya bubbles prevent two people from dying to it, a lamppost can stop it. It is a terrible ultimate. It makes people move, that's it and does no damage. Meanwhile Reinhardt and Zarya destroy teams with theirs and Winston moves people by doing damage to them.
D'va moves people without actually doing anything, and turns into a free 150 kill while using it. It is an abysmal ultimate.
>>342358859
And very poor damage. And tracers ultimate actually kills high value targets and does it very often resulting in wins.
>Attack Kings Row
>Total rape train all the way to the end area
>almost five minutes left on clock
>other team switches to dual Maymays.
>tpayoff is three feet away from the end
>the alternate cry freeze and Hurricane to block the payload and survive every Ult.
>we lose
What ability can get through cryogenic freeze?.....fucking..fuck.
(They also had a Bastion and a Torb guarding the flanks from corners and a Rein to mix it up at the payload.)
But those fucking dual Meis would not fucking die. It was a fucking hurricane of bullets and that fat bitch wouldn't go down.
>>342358603
Let me use words you can understand. Enemy team about to push. Genji disrupts kills healer team has to retreat and wait for healer to respawn. It's why Tracer works on defense as well because they are very good at disrupting and taking out key targets making the enemy team either push without an important member or retreat and wast stone waiting for them.
>>342353407
>He has 3 gold Stars
So he has at least more kills and more objective time than you and you are blaming him for not winning
>>342359871
Zarya shields stops all cc. Pick her and save people with bad mobility from being frozen
>>342359576
So you're saying that even though those characters are all poor reasons to choose Genji and are far more easily dealt with by other characters, you would still pick Genji? Just because?
>>342359640
It can't be Interrupted though.
There's plenty of ways to trap people with it. Plus it automatically destroys all nearby devices, including portals.
D. Va isn't bad, she has a lot of utility in the hands of an aggressive, skilled player.
>>342351643
>two people pick widowmaker and hanzo
"h-hey, do you think maybe one of you can switch? we can use a support or something"
>no responses
>no change
>lose the round
You guys know there's an overwatch general on vg?
>>342359971
>I pick genji on defense!
>so their healer automatically dies!
>tracer would also automatically kill their healer lmao
LoL #VapeNation
H E L P
>>342351643
I'm so sick of Genji players. I used to hate Hanzo players more but Genjis are literally useless while Hanzo at least has a chance to meme kills and help clear the objective thanks to his skyscraper hitboxes and triple arrow.
>>342360286quit the matchor also pick a sniper to highlight the fucking stupid character choices
>>342360107
She isn't bad, she's terrible. And all those things I mentioned actually 100% stops the damage. It will instantly destroy the ice wall, barrier, shields but it stops the ultimate blast damage from hitting people. You can accomplish anything that d'va does with other characters much more efficiently. D'va's best ability is her E and even that isn't exactly amazing because Reinhardt has a better MORE CONSISTENT shield.
She just Inconsistent the character and that's why she is literally never played at higher levels or even remotely played on PTR ranked servers
>>342360286
Tell the enemy team that you have alot of snipers and a good counter would be one or two Winstons.
>>342354090
if your widow is decent ilios can be good for her, assuming it's the first area where you can go down to the side passage balconies and aim at the objective. I've picked up quads with high noon from there as mcREE too.
>>342360286
Pick Widow for shits and giggles.
>>342359871
Torbjorn and Bastion should have been your primary targets. The meis could be safely eliminated from a distance. You want to frighten them into popping their cryo heal early then run them down as they panic.
Mei can only freeze and kill one opponent at a time. They're too slow to hold off a team without supporting fire.
>>342354514
Hanzo's hitboxes are much larger than everyone elses. He IS worse.
>>342354229
>Scatter arrows kill most heroes by shooting at the ground in front of them
>Free wallhacks as a basic ability
>Chest shots count as a headshot
>Infinite climb ability with the scroll wheel jump glitch
Yeah he's fucking underpowered
>>342359971
Too bad 90% of the retards playing them don't aim for the supports and just kill randomly.
Also Winston fills the role of healer slayer better.
>>342357374
Competitive is out. Change your region to PTR in Battle.net on the OW page.
>>342358859
>She's basically a Tracer with more health, far less damage, and a much worse ult
FTFY senpai
>>342359040
How am I supposed to become MLG if you don't let me practice the high skill heroes!
>proceeds to be a worthless piece of shit all round, every round
>>342360521
People are just sitting on her because she takes skill to use. Rank play means nothing right now because it's too early in the meta.
>>342360084
The only poor character is Winston and if that's only if the Winston is smart enough to target you. Zarya and 76 can make it slightly harder but they do that for a lot of characters because they are really good characters it's what they do.
It's like Junkrat. Zarya is very good against Junkrat because he will feed her energy all the fucking time by just existing. It doesn't mean I wouldn't pick a Junkrat into a Zarya.
>Tracer
>Hanzo
>Widowmaker
>Genji
>Symmetra
>Reaper
>D.va
Any time these heroes are chosen, it's guaranteed they're being piloted by a sub-par shitpump teammate.
>>342357267
you can wallride down there forever. it works really well if nobody sees you go down there are you can heal and speedboost your team still
>>342359871
I'm pretty sure Lucio can blast cryo frozen Meis back. The blast back is generally a soft counter to Mei either way.
>>342360827
Thank you so much.
>>342361129
Turretfag pls
>>342360060
They would use hurricane to freeze us in place in order to give them enough time for their cryo freeze cool down to expire. So once we thawed out they would just wrap themselves in that fucking little ice block again so they wouldnt take any damage....shit was nuts...and super annoying.
>>342361129
D.va is very rarely picked, but when I do see someone play her, they usually know what the're doing.
>>342354514
It's only projectiles that have a ridiculous hitbox. Hitscan weapons have a fairly standard hitbox despite the memes that tell you otherwise.
>>342357267
Sounds like something I've done, though it didn't take me a minute to escape and reciprocate. And naturally, I wasn't recording when I did do that.
>>342359640
>Reinhardt and Zarya destroy teams with theirs
I don't know what game ou've been playing, but i can't remember the last time I saw someone die as a result of Zarya's Ult, or Reinhardt managing to kill more than 2 people using his.The deadliest Ults are Bastion's, Hanzo's, D.va's, and Junkrat's. I consistently see them kill 3 or 4 people
>>342361372
Bastion probably has one of my lowest playtimes, but you tried.
>>342361419
I haven't played for a while, but when I was either the player was awful, or D.va was the wrong choice for the scenario and ended up being ineffective.
>>342359849
Bullshit, all tanks will survive Tracer's Ult and the blast radius is tiny, the enemy needs to be literally shoulder to shoulder for it to kill more than 1
>>342351643
>tfw good friend always picks hanzo and does nothing but snipe
>adds nothing to the team other than an ult here and there
>any time he gets a kill pretty much goes full "MOM GET THE CAMERA" modo
this is ruining our friendship and i'm seriously considering telling him to go fuck himself for life. sad thing is he's an almost 30 year old adult.
>>342360824
In the right situation yes Winston can also do the job, but Winston has no burst and will have a hard time confirming a kill without a team backing him up. Especially since Reaper is in every game now that McCree was nerfed.
Now two Winstons. Two Winstons will fuck everything up. Hell he's a big reason tournaments started putting hero limits in matches.
>>342360679
Oh shit, this is an actual good idea
>see 3 snipers on your team
>tell all that your team has 3 snipers and you should counterpick
>leave game and join a new one
If people do this enough, multiple snipers would be discouraged in no time.
What's the button that brings up the "[Player] wants to attack the objective" message?
>>342361605
forgot to add that he also vapes obnoxiously into the mic.
>>342361493
Zarya has the single best ult in the game. D.Va has the worst.
>>342361883
>Zarya has the single best ult in the game
>>342357573
>almost an hour per level and you've only just hit the exp cap
what the FUCK MAN?
go soldier 76 and fucking destroy the enemy team, every god damn time, god damn soldier 76 is a beast.
>>342354090
Hanzo is pretty good on Ilios Lighthouse if you spawn on the left side with the place with the umbrellas and a drop-off separating you from the point.
You can fire potshots, scatter arrows into the point and put a Sonar arrow on the door where enemies usually come out.
>>342354552
>that shit mei always blocking your ulti
Either it's high noon or Zarya's gravity ball, there's always a shit mei on your team that prevents good things from happening.
>>342361883
if Zarya's ultimate is the best, and the best one to combo it with is D.Va's ultimate, then doesn't that make those two the best one in the game?
>>342362028
S-76 is only included so faggot CoD players might want to spend mommy's money on a different game for once. He is designed to be easy to play because they're expecting retards with no strategy to pick him. His Ult is literally auto-aim.
This shit just happened.
>playing defense on hollywood
>we are absolutely kicking the enemy teams ass
>don't even have a bastion
>they haven't even begun to capture the point
>game is almost over
>our D.va goes kamikaze
>kills 3 people
>the enemies reaper says in chat "they need to nerf so much shit in this game"
>someone asks him what needs to be nerfed
>he starts bitching about how D.va has the best ult in the game, and its guaranteed teamwipe
>I start laughing at him and call him a fucking moron
>tell him its the easiest ult to dodge in the game
>tell him that you can stand behind a lightpole right next to it, and you'll survive
>he starts chimping out telling me to shut the fuck up
>leaves
D.va's ult is such a great scrub detector.
>>342352148
nice blog where can i sub?
>>342361584
>tanks are the only high value targets in Overwatch
Aside from how retarded you are, her ult will severely weaken a tank to make them an easy kill.
>>342362136
Pisses me off when your team's Mei is only thinking about themselves and will block a fucking corridor or door way with you still on the other side to get shot to shit
>>342362289
Hey now, there are kids out there who never played Doom 2.
>>342362164
The best combo for Zarya's ult is Roaghog, Tracer or Genji. Tracer because everyone in the black hole gets hit with bomb, Roadog because they don't get knocked out of her ult and Genji because his sword is guaranteed to kill anyone stuck in it. There are still ways around D.Va's ult even stuck.
>>342362028
yeah anytime i'm healing/tanking and my team are potatoes i just switch to 76 and lay down fire. much more fun than trying to work with a team that has zero cohesion.
>>342362356
>tanks are the only high value targets in Overwatch
Didn't say that though did I? I said it will never kill a tank, and then went on to say if you wan't it to kill multiple enemies you're shit out of luck. It's a good Ult for Tracer because her damage is so low, but compared to every other damage dealing Ult in the game, it's next to worthless.
>>342362164
>and the best one to combo it with is D.Va's ultimate
Zarya's ultimate combos with every aoe ultimate. And there is a lot of aoe ultimates. D.Va's ultimate is nothing special in that sense.
When can you even afford to Zenyatta? I want to use him more, but the instant I do, any Lucio/Mercy on our team swaps straight to fucking Hanzo/Genji/Widow, because I'm a support class I guess.
>Not just picking the character you like.
You can't rely on your team just play to the best of your ability with the play style you like.
>Hate Hanzo players so much Winston is my most played
Am I the only one
>>342357573
>32 eliminations
>after 23 hours of the same character
Nigga, I have 47 and that was from a half game as Reinhardt. Git gud.
>>342360764
Their Torb and Bastion in the far corners behind the ending choke point out of direct line of fire from our rear guard snipers.
If you survived being frozen by hurricane in the middle and managed to get to either Torb or Bastion on the far left or right, the other one on the far side would take you out instantly shooting you in the back.
So I told my gunners to stay back and just concentrate on the Meis while my Rein pushed the payload. It was a literal fucking hail storm of bullets but they never died. We even had D Va blowing ults but they still survived while keeping the payload from going forward with their little indestructible ice blocks.
>>342362271
stay asshurt. he's just a balanced offensive player. it's nice that have a fallback player when your team is retarded.
>>342362554
Must suck when your team needs a tank or healer though. I'm fed up of playing Mercy and people just expecting me to save them constantly. They think if they're getting healed they're basically invincible and can just soak up damage, but then they won;t bother to protect you if the enemy goes for you
>>342362716
Either party up with friends, or play zenyatta on defense and demand Torb to give you armor.
>>342362862
>it's just nice to have a no-skill character when I have nothing to offer my team
FTFY
>>342362164
Nope d'va is still bad because a tracer ultimate does all the damage you would need in that situation and does it instantly. Zarya will immediately go for a 3+ person black hole and it most likely will not last long enough for a d'va ultimate to actually go off effectively unless you both are actually talking to each other and use them at the same time. A tracer can react very easily even when the zarya ultimate is about to expire.
>>342362136
This shit bugs me so much as a mei who actually likes to play nice with my team. If shit's red, icewall goes up. If it's blue, icewall blocks an exit. If i miss and start fucking shit up, then i press E again and bring the wall down.
Mei's pretty important when she is picked when you know what the fuck everyone is trying to do. If you start dropping walls like you're a Reinhardt, you're probably helping the enemy team more than your own.
Her walls aren't meant to "save your pals" from every single bullet. It's ok if it's something like a roadhog hook or a McCree flashbang, but if everyone wants to shoot McCree or roadhog still then you tear that shit down. Icewall's are for bullying wrathed reapers trying to flee into that healthpack room you just walled off, or for bullying bastions who down move and they just wait there for your wall to go down as you cap the point. They're there to take justice and splash it back on to pharah's face using the floating platforms.
>>342353709
Try roadhog next time
>>342351643
>win a few games in a row
>now getting matched with 200+ people while my team is barely 200 altogether
>Not trash talking shitters in voice chat as soon as they choose hanzo
Easiest way to increase your win percentage.
>>342357215
>playing as Mercy
>notice some dumbfuck playing D.Va is starting to target me
>start shooting as soon as I see her boosting towards
>all head shots because lol D.Va
>she stops boosting and I back up and continue shooting
>mech dies
>fly away because she can actually kill me now
>>342362905
>but then they won;t bother to protect you if the enemy goes for you
iktfb
it really sucks too. you're flying around healing and rezzing, but when enemy players start diving for you your entire team just ignores them and wonders where you are 10 seconds later after you've died and they're crying for health. it even happens when you're playing with teams that communicate occasionally. just shitters really i guess.
>>342363013
you have no reading comprehension and are blinded by the fact that a 76 raped your mom with his ult.
>>342351643
>Last person joins team
>Clearly need a healer
>Picks fucking Genji
Nigga, I'm already playing tank, just pick a fucking healer.
>>342360286
pick mei and just throws walls in front of them
don't do anything else, just walls
They have a class that uses sentries.
It's stupid how fast they can turn. If they would just adjust it to about tf2 turn rates it'd be ok and bastion wouldn't be robotic cancer.
>>342363429
>win 3 games in a row
>get put on losing teams with about a minute left on defense or less than a minute left on offense and the cart's still at spawn.
Blizzard, i can't carry the team. Without random crits you can't expect me to take everyone out.
>>342363659
Why would anyone play as healer if they don't want to?
Just because you picked before them?
If you really care about team composition then repick your hero.
>>342361637
Did a 5 Winston 1 Lucio attack on anubis yesterday. Shit went swimmingly
>>342363352
How do you beat Tracer as Roadhog? It's not like you can reliably hook her and when your hook's on cooldown, you melt like butter from her pistols. At least that's my experience so far.
>>342363840
Genji go home. Everyone knows not to shoot you when you're flailing your arms now so you're useless.
I just watched 3 team mates (pudge, genji and reaper) lose to a hanzo in a small room. We proceeded to lose the game.
THANKS FORCED FIFTY
>>342363849
>Did a 5 Winston 1 Lucio attack on anubis yesterday
2 Winston is good, but 5 just makes you insta lose to Reapers and Roadhogs.
>>342363852
Try to predict where she'll be running to and let her run out of blinks and then hook her.
Or you can try your luck with RMB
>>342363852
Not that guy but she's gotta be pretty close to melt you like butter. Shoot her face when she does that shit. Walking into a hallway or something could help since she's either straight behind your or right in front of you.
>>342363013
>i got fucked in the ass by soldier 76
Im sorry to hear that dude
>>342363429
I've got about 600 matches with a +15 W to L playing 100% pubs and zero premades.
I never quit matches but if I get matched with scrubs I will finish the match then completely get out of the game. (even turn it off completely sometimes) then wait a few minutes before going back in so I can be sure to get matched up with a completely different group of players.
>>342364112
>Try to predict where she'll be running to and let her run out of blinks and then hook her.
That's easier said than done. A good Tracer player knows how to avoid that shit.
>>342356000
McRee is amazing for D. I'd say Pharah is probably worst for D while everyone else is pretty much fine.
>>342361714
Look at the objective and press F
>>342364256
McCree hiding in corners and being an irritating faggot makes her perfect since he can melt anyone's health with fucking Fan The Hammer. God damn I wish that move's maximum damage was taken down to an even 120. He'd be perfect then.
>>342362271
His ult is basically useless if there's actually a target rich environment.
>>342357702
>mfw trobjorn on attack.
fucking kill me.
>>342364252
Not that guy but good or not, she's gotta get in your ass or face in order to do the damage, you gotta bait her or just wait for it. The could be the best in the world but she still needs to crawl up your butt to kick your ass.
>>342359616
>>342351643
>"I don't know how to step to the side."
>>342357702
Holy shit I'm dying.
>>342363840
Because they're already playing tank?
>>342358501
>within 8m, her guns vaporize anyone)
That 24 damage isn't anything to shit on. Gotta love it. Just have to remember that her little pewpew cannons actually do headshot damage.
>>342364467
Not that guy (thankfully) but i feel that most of these damn automatic voice lines are actually counter intuitive. Zarya says "get in there" when the shield is up but shit isn't good for anything other than shaking off a few bullets as you help your mercy retreat. D.va going "nerf this" when her ult is shit makes me roll my eyes like a 13 year old girl too, to the point of eyestrain.
>Overtime bar is almost out
>Widow or Hanzo in Death Spectate Cam is near the point and just firing potshots from above
>Doesn't get on the point and we lose
Nothing gets me more angry. Just fucking sacrifice yourself to buy time for more people to help out.
>>342364034
Yah. Like many pubs though... no counter came
>>342356000
the real retards are the ones who think the designations blizzard gives to those characters are static.
you have no understanding of the actual game, you follow blind rules based on what blizzard tells you. thats why you are most likely a shitter.
>>342361471
that was pretty slick
>mfw when I choose Symmetra on attack and people instantly get triggered
She is still my highest win ratio
>>342364403
>namefag
FTH already got nerfed to the point where it's more efficient to just get headshots after a flashbang. Kill yourself.
>>342365012
Zaryas shield is amazing. The only problem with that line is that by the time your ally metabolises that he has been shielded its already gone. D.va is just rolling the gamer girl gimmick, its supposed to be somewhat cringey
>>342356000
I'd had a Torbjorn set up a turret on a Payload and my team were incapable of stopping their advance. This has happened to me only twice but it was the same fucking map [Route 66] with 3 other tanks providing support, and a Junkrat and a McCree that went around tag team fisting the rest of my team.
>>342365438
Not on consoles it hasn't. Eat dicks and die screaming.
>>342359616
pretty much this. Anytime anyone chooses Bastion, the game just becomes annoying and not fun.
>>342365645
>console player
Opinion discarded
>>342365724
>>342365529
I really wish it had some activation delay or something, so they can realize they received a shield and make use of it.
As it is its always
>shield ally not literally eating damage
>they walk back because they were not expecting it, by the time they realize its gone
So its either just for saving asses or getting energy
>>342351643
>Attack on Dorado
>Player locks in as Hanzo
>oh boy
>Match starts, before I even get out the gate Hanzo is already on the payload
>He stays that way the rest of the match
>He's going full Hawkeye as he surfs the payload to victory
>Gets on com block for having the highest objective time
Surf on, assault Hanzo
>Hanamura on defense
>entire team lined up on the door checkpoint
>two tracers get to the point
>no one even bothers to defend the point except me
>cant do much as lucio, die
>point is taken
>go on to mic and say "what the hell guys did you not see the point being taken? we need to cooperate"
>suddenly roadhog stops moving in the middle of the point B WHILE THERE ARE ENEMIES ON THE POINT
>he dies
>he was writing a message
>"aaannnnnnnd muted"
>>342365921
Had a Widowmaker do the exact same thing on Gibraltar. Bitch had three solid minutes of Objective time. I had to respect that.
>>342365653
Most of the time bastion players are just a somewhat more annoying toblerone's turret, they get some triple kills once or twice and proceed to die like retards for the rest of the game because they refuse to unsiege under fire
Remember when PvPers valued winning in their game of choice WAY more than winning the special Olympics on a forum about their game of choice?
Fucking Blizzard really is cancer.
Typed this out form that shitter who made a Mccree thread before it died, gonna dump it here just so I don't feel like I wasted time.
>>342362953
FTH is 45 damage per shot, 6 shots, no headshots. Falls off to 22.5 per shot at max range, but you won't be hitting FTH at range anyway. FTH takes a second to fire all rounds, roughly 0.166 of a second per shot.
Your LMB fires at a rate of 2 rounds per second, 70 damage, falling off to 35 at max range, headshot multiplier is 2x.
Flashbang has a very short travel time, does 25 damage, and stuns for 0.7 seconds.
That means that in theory you can get off 4 shots for FTH before the stun expires for 180 damage, for 205 damage, which kills most of the cast. In practice hitting those shots is RNG reliant, and in practice you should safely be able to get off the remaining two shots of FTH and get an immediate melee attack (30), for a potential optimal damage combo of 325. That will kill every non-tank character. Detract 45 damage per shot missed.
Most of the cast sits at 200 health, which means you can miss 3 shots for a 210 damage combo and still safely get the kill. Against Mei and Reaper you can only miss 2, but that doesn't matter since Mei and Reaper can instantly iceblock/wraithform once the stun expires, so your combo doesn't work against them. Against Bastion you need to hit all shots. Against tanks you'll need to roll and extend the combo with another fan, which for the record yields 595 damage, just short of being able to kill Roadhog.
A further note on damage margins is that Tracer, Zenyatta and zero suit Dva only have 150 hp, so instead of fanning you might as well go for the flash and guaranteed headshot, for 165. Against slim 200hp characters such as Hanzo and Widow it might be more reliable to go for the 165 headshot combo and finish them off with a bodyshot, which also means you don't have to reload or waste your roll.
>>342360873
>People still haven't figured out dvas real potential tanking power
Her defense matrix can cancel 100% fucking ultra.
Zarya, hanzo, meis ults become nothing in an instant if they falling the defense matrix when activated.
She also can make half of phariah, soldier, bastions, reaper, roadhog ults wasted.
The fact that dvas rarely use the defense matrix baffles me.
