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New footage
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9F7cm2sh-Y
Shameful bump
>>342305971
Um, whitewashing much?
>>342305971
Let me play through the entirw game as a cutie Japanese grill as DLC and then we can talk
>>342305971
>not even 2017
>geralt is back again
>>342305971
why is geralt in this weeb trash?
gomenasai tokyo no geralt-sama
>>342305971
neat
>>342307360
(you)
they're showing too much of the game, i wonder how much of the game is left over for people who play both demos. I guess they need to generate hype some way because its definitely not going to sell a lot.
>>342308043
How is 3 levels too much?
>>342307974
-Japan
-Ninjas
-White protagonist
Spot what doesn't belong.
>>342308043
They did say its going to be a long game
>>342305971
I appreciate you making a Nioh thread because the game is going to be fantastic. But I'm going to pass on the footage. I don't want to spoil myself.
>>342308116
Consider if Kingdom Hearts had a demo that lasted three worlds.
Looks like shit familia, I honestly don't know why people are excited for this game, but I guess there are a lot of people with shit taste on this board.
>>342308185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)
>William Adams (24 September 1564 – 16 May 1620), known in Japanese as Miura Anjin
>Adams settled there and became the first ever (and one of the very few) Western Samurai.
>Taking a liking to Adams, the shogun appointed him as a diplomatic and trade advisor, bestowing great privileges upon him. Ultimately, Adams became his personal advisor on all things related to Western powers and civilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nioh
>The game follows the story of William (loosely based upon William Adams), a blond-haired English samurai, during Warring States period Japan in 1600.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJREHP9uS9k&feature=youtu.be
>trailer is in Irish
Is maith sin.
So this is pretty cool, the dub is suppose to be bilingual. As someone who has studied Japanese, this is something I've wanted.
>>342308397
I have watched the movie 'The Last Samurai' which that character is from and he wasn't a Ninja, he was a samurai moron.
>>342308614
Who is a ninja?
>>342305971
Nioh footage
>>342308614
They're just two different words for the same thing you goober.
Ninja and Samurai both roughly translate to "man with sword".
>>342308575
>Nips speak Japanese
>William and other whitu piggus speak English
>demon lady speaks Irish
I'm confused yet intrigued
Here's a fun fact: ninjas are not originally from Japan, they're from Korea, Japan's emperors couldn't have their own men performing assassinations because they were too honorable, so he hired assassins from Korea to assassinate their enemies, eventually these assassins settled on Japan and passed down their knowledge.
>>342308786
Samurai literally mean servant.
>>342308934
WE WUZ NINJAS AND SHIET
jesus christ korea fuck off
>>342308996
Nah. Ninja and samurai both mean "man with sword". Those in the Kyushu region have a religion which does not allow 3 syllable words so they can't say the word Samurai. They shifted the Kanji and the Katakana around and came up with the word Ninja.
>>342305971
>mid stancers
>no ki impulse
>>342308323
NEVER EVER
>>342309235
>a religion which does not allow 3 syllable words
lmao fucking elevens and their moonrune bullshit
>those little green kappa things
C U T E
FACT
samurai comes from the japanese phrase "shiro nai" meaning "not white" because only black people were allowed to become samurai, but history has forgotten about this due to white men oppressing blacks.
>>342309570
It actually started with a war over how to pronounce Kyushu. One group said it KEE you Shoe. The other group said Kyushu as we know it know.
Well after a long and bloody war the second group one. And not only did they ban the other pronunciation, but they went on the ban all 3 syllable words.
Who /mark of the conqueror/ here?
>>342309782
how much time do you spend thinking of black people?
>>342309782
WE WUZ BAIT
>>342309927
that's pretty funny
>>342309927
>Well after a long and bloody war the second group one. And not only did they ban the other pronunciation, but they went on the ban all 3 syllable words.
I wish I could become so mad that I go to war, win, and then still be salty enough to just ban words like that.
My Bloodbornebox is gonna get a good workout this fall. Nioh, The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2
>>342310040
Feels good
>>342308850
It's been said in the interview that Adams spoke very little Japanese as he just arrived in Japan in pursuit of somebody.
>>342310040
You'd have to be a really big sack of shit to not have gotten it honestly.
>>342310157
Never say that around a Japanese person. It's like mentioning 911 around an American, it's likely to send them into a blind rage.
>>342308323
Maybe people just have different tastes than you?
>>342308614
>'The Last Samurai' which that character is from
TLS takes place 200 years after this and is about an American, try again
>and he wasn't a Ninja
what are you talking about?
>>342310157
HAMADA THAI KICKUHas he ever been thai kicked? I guess he got one in the 24 hour endurance but none since then.
>>342310452
only one man is truly deserving of such treatment
>>342309782
fucking hell anon, thanks for the laugh
I can go to bed with a smile tonight
>>342310040
Oh, I'm mark of the conqueror.
The real question is
Who/Nue/?
>>342310306
Yeah it's a pretty neat detail. Personally I'm wondering how the Irish demon fits into it.
>>342310525
My dream is to see Hamada or Matsumoto get Thai kicked and injure their hip or tailbone.
>>342310579
Nue was a sissy bitch if you used your sword spirit
>>342310579
I'd be suprised if the numbers on that were that different. If you got good enough to beat the first level you got good enough to become a nuemale.
I wonder if this game is genuinely trying to solely target western audiences, or if this is basically a Battlefield WWI scenario from those in Nipland.
>>342305971
reminder this comes out in September
>>342310383
"familia" didn't tip you off that his opinion isn't worth much?
>>342310795
source?
>>342310784
Japanese people actually know William Adams.
Ironically it's the weebs that are bitching most about it, as exhibited in this thread.
![f260fe107c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OHnzH4d.jpg "f260fe107c[1].jpg")
>>342307424
DLC WHERE YOU PLAY AS MOMIJI'S ANCESTOR WHEN
>>342310795
Is that a new Macintosh Plus album?
>>342310989
yea, and we know who the harlem hellfighters are. doesn't mean they deserve a game.
>>342310884
I lost the source but I remember seeing an article on where they have another demo set up for august and then the release is not long after.
>>342311012
I wish
>>342311113
Who?
>>342311113
Oh, well you should ring up Koei and EA then.
I'm sure they wouldn't have started production on either project if they'd have known it'd make you upset.
>>342311278
nice, I knew about the demo so I'll take your word on that
>>342310309
>Never say that around a Japanese person. It's like mentioning 911 around an American, it's likely to send them into a blind rage.
i very much doubt that
How does it feel to know the mark of the conqueror now means nothing whatsoever?
>>342311609
I'll continue to look for the article until then, maybe it was a misprint but I would assume it would come out before the holiday season.
>>342308185
>>342308185
Ninjas?
>>342305971
neat
I love video games
>>342305971
is this game open world?
>>342310040
Eh, probably won't mean as much now.
>>342312163
Watch five seconds of the footage, retard.
>>342312163
please no
why can't people realize that forcing everything to be open world kills a lot of video games
>>342312163
No. Its sort of like the dark souls/deus ex /mass effect type.
>>342312272
i did, i just asked because the demo made it seem openworld but this footage doesn't.
>>342312394
How did the demo made it seem like open world? You get to choose locations (missions) from the map menu and you go to the location which is, admittedly, pretty big.
>>342312394
? The demo literally had a level select menu.
For those worried about a difficulty downgrade I have good news for you. This was just wrote by gamespot yesterday
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nioh-dev-isnt-compromising-on-games-dark-souls-dif/1100-6441064/
Nioh Dev Isn't Compromising on Game's "Dark Souls Difficulty"
>"It wouldn't add anything to the gameplay to make enemies weaker or the player stronger," creative director Tom Lee told GameSpot during a recent demo at E3 2016. "Any changes would be to enhance the difficulty. Some people said the difficulty was too high, but the vast majority had positive feedback. We are introducing abilities that will give the player more options, though. We want learning them to feel rewarding."
/r/ webm/gif of the goofy little cyclops turning into a giganigga
>>342312554
I don't get why so many of you actually thought that was going to happen.
>>342313184
/v/ jerks its knee the way a 12 year old jerks their dick.
>>342308185
your retarded presence
>>342310795
>game was 60% done at E3
Nah.
>>342312554
>"Any changes would be to enhance the difficulty. Some people said the difficulty was too high, but the vast majority had positive feedback. We are introducing abilities that will give the player more options, though. We want learning them to feel rewarding."
>Any changes would be to enhance the difficulty.
>>342313774
I'll have you know I beat all the souls games making me a master of video games and I died 35 times to the first npc so the game is broken and too hard.
>>342313184
They had people submit survey's of their thoughts on Nioh's demo, American's were a majority satisfied but Asians were nearly half and half loving/hating it
My only problem was blocking with an empty bar made you wide open to attack but running away regained stamina, which didn't make sense, I'd be more fine with being bitchslapped for blocking with low stamina and getting hit hard into a stun state
>>342313774
I've beaten all the souls games and did not die 35 times to the first npc, so I don't believe the game is broken or too hard.
>>342314154
>japs hating it
Well they have the most casual people so yeah
Geralt?
Seriously wtf
>>342305971
If this game do well I hope they bring back Ninja Gaiden
>>342314201
for
>>342313963
it's late
>>342312554
>Dark Souls Difficulty
I'm so tired of this shit. Fuck normies who made this meme start or the PCuck community that can't play games for shit. Souls games each of them have maybe 1 or 2 truly hard bosses and 1 actual hard area to traverse the rest is just not being a completely dumb fucking idiot.
>>342314491
The difference being you're not a master of video games obviously.
>LOVE how Nioh team says there was a huge split between west loving the difficulty and east didnt…they are keeping it as is. :)
>They said they will fix the elements that led to Eastern players saying it was unfairly difficult but challenge was where they wanted it
>They said western media were really detailed and engaged, even spotting a mistake on the second hit of the lower stance (power was too weak)
>Nioh devs said that while Japan bitched most about the difficulty, the clear percentage for the demo was highest in Japan - LOL
>>342314397
You play as young version of Geralt
He ends up in Japan and becomes a samurai
His job is to lift the curse in nip land
>>342314985
Maybe grorious nippon is more likely to fill out surveys and the west went on 4chan and reddit to whine.
I remember endless rivers of salt on /v/ when the demo was up.
>>342312554
>"Any changes would be to enhance the difficulty."
But the biggest changes are the change to the lock on system which makes it easier to circle strafe without exposing your back, letting you adjust your position without even thinking about it, and durability being removed so you don't have to think about fighting efficiently. Then there's them shortening the Ki stagger time, you can't paint that in any way other than it being easier.
>>342314154
You would only be made open if you blocked an attack you didn't have enough Ki to block, so your guard would be broken. Simple movement on the other hand doesn't take much but you not defending so you need to move so that you're not exposed. I don't see the problem, except for them changing it so you don't turn around if you run away.
>>342314985
>while Japan bitched most about the difficulty, the clear percentage for the demo was highest in Japan
Diligent bastards and not one to leave things unfinished, are they?
>>342315182
I couldn't even find a link to the survey. My only input was getting the mark of the conqueror.
>>342314985
I hope it pays off. Not catering to everyone is a rare thing to see these days. That's pretty cool on KT's part.
>>342314201
The camera was shit in the alpha
>>342315454
I think I found the link posted on here. I know a lot of babies were telling them to tone it down.
>>342315454
The game gave a link to the survey in at least the online manual accessible from the main menu, but it might have said it in other places. Every Nioh thread during Alpha had the link too and it could probably be found just by Google.
We're all gonna need to be prepared for the Beta survey, since we know now the lengths they'll go to to change the game based on feedback.
If you didn't get your mark or if you missed it during alpha. You can get another attempt to at it in the open beta in two months.
List of changes since the alpha demo compiled by people here for anyone who hasn't been following the updates the past week
>The life and stamina bars of both William and enemies are now brighter and more colourful, as is the spirit guardian gauge
>Quick-item slots have been made bigger on the HUD, and have been expanded to encompass the entire D-Pad; also it seems that two sets of items can be mapped to the D-Pad and swapped on the fly
>Quick weapon switching is now done with R1 + the D-Pad, with the weapon icons subsequently being moved over to the stance indicator
>A second missile weapon can now be equipped
>When using a talisman to imbue your weapon with elemental damage, a display on the stance indicator will show how long your buff is active for
>The lock-on system has been changed to work more similarly to Zelda or Souls
>William's breathers after running out of stamina seem to have been shortened by half
>Dodges and rolls now seem to have more weight to them and seem less glide-y than they were in the alpha
>Durability has been removed outright
>On-screen messages display whenever a proficiency point is earned for the equipped weapon, with a little display at the bottom of the screen showing how many you currently have
>Drop rate seems to have been toned down a bit, so every enemy isn't a piñata of useless gear
>>342316337And new information that a few anons have gleamed from press interviews that Yasuda and Hayashi have been giving the past week
>The game is currently 60-70% completed, but Team Ninja are still aiming to get it out by late 2016
>They're aiming to clock the main story of the game at around 30-40 hours
>William is the only playable character
>William only understands very basic Japanese, so the dub will more than likely be bilingual
>None of Kurosawa's Oni script (That was subsequently finished by his son and tightened up by Kou Shibusawa to make it more videogame-y) that the game was originally based on has made it into the final version, with the exception of the protagonist still being a blond samurai
>It was reaffirmed as a PS4 exclusive for the foreseeable future, but chances of a port didn't sound too good, as TN are still very snakey about that DoA5 nude mod thing
>None of the prevalent sexuality from DoA and Ninja Gaiden will be there, since they felt it didn't match the tone of the game
>Around 100 side missions of varying objectives will be avaliable
>NG+ isn't a given, but they're aware of the demand for it
>No invasions, but a potential PvP arena
>The August beta demo consists of a tutorial dojo, the two levels from the alpha demo again and a new stage, the boss of which is a Hinoenma, that creepy demon lady from the TGS and E3 trailers
>Completing all three stages of the beta will allow players to get the Mark of the Conquerer if they missed it the first time, so the copypasta may have to be rewritten a bit
>You will be more than likely to be able to change the facial appearance of your revenant
>Firearms are extremely powerful, but will cause all nearby enemies to investigate the source of the sound
>Healing hotsprings will be dotted around some stages
All collected footage of the new level and the training dojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmZPYTEc7hM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=282cMo0Lk6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpeVEBpAlTc
>>342308185
It's actually based on tale of a white man who came got into Japan.
Loosely based, of course it's full of fucking myths and shit.
>>342315578
I had no problems with it in the Alpha, and the closer view made the combat feel more intense. There was an option to swap between camera modes but it only seemed to turn on and off the closeups on some things, they should let us choose between the old and new camera angles.
>>342316313
Oh man, this is simply fantastic. I missed my chance because I heard about the game the day it was pulled from psn
>>342308614
...The Last Samurai isn't really based on that guy, anon. In fact, the last samurai wouldn't happen in more than 200 years. Fucking moron.
>>342316313
>>342316991
Cool, I lost it too because I didn't even know I could get it.
>>342310579
>/Nue/?
>dat second stage
Shit, can't wait to play Nioh again.
Fucking pumped for the second demo on august.
>>342316337
>>342316480
You da realest nigga, anon.
>Durability has been removed outright
I'm not too happy about this, could have easily fixed it with a merchant or ading a shop to the kodama shrines so we could spend all that useless money we got in the demo, oh well.
Everything else seems to be pretty good, looking forward to the next demo.
>>342316313
Somehow I feel some autists one /v/ will get upset at this
>>342316337
>>342316480
Can't wait to put my hands on the full game, hope the august demo is bigger than the alpha.
Also i REALLY wished i could play this on my pc, don't care about console war or anything just wanted to play the game at locked 60fps/1440p downsampling. That second level on the alpha would be even more amazing with full on Anti Aliasing and higher resolution.
>DAT RAIN
>>342317913
They are adding blacksmiths and merchants. The demo basically confirmed it. Since it has the diablo loot system theres probably gonna be a feature where you can them worthless items for a chance of a better weapon
>>342318308
I honestly didnt expect they would add more than 1 humanoid boss
>>342311113
Big Billy Adams is more important to Japanese history than a bunch of nignogs were to WWI.
>>342318394
*donate the worthless
>>342317009
>>342308185
Nips start actually buying games and maybe they won't get whitewashed.
Us gaijin are carrying all the weight and are the only reason Japanese devs are in business
>>342308323
Because of shills; there's 3 or 4 faggots that are propagating this thread for this objectively shit game
>>342308397
Might as well have made him an alien from Mars stranded on Earth because that's the stupidest fucking premise for a main character I've heard in a while.
I made a list of what durability adds with it's inclusion and what we get from it being removed, but that thread was dead around the time I posted it and I ain't letting it go to waste.
With durability:
Different weapon and armour types get another layer of variety and uniqueness, potentially impacting how you play
More encouragement to use different equipment and experiment, feels satisfying when you're caught short but able to win regardless
Potentially more depth to enemy encounters by having them use it against you (hit the weakspot or your weapons break quicker, yokai that aim for the equipment rather than your health)
More encouragement towards fighting efficiently, instead of just simply blocking everything regardless of build since there's no downside
Fits both thematically and mechanically, what with the darker atmosphere, emphasis on authentic feeling samurai combat, and the loot system meaning you'll at least have something to fall back on making it seem somewhat balanced if not a bit lenient, at least in the confines of the demo
Rewards preparation before battle that little bit more
Brings a fair punishment to dying multiple times and being unprepared
Without durability:
No pressure to change your equipment at any time or even bring anything more than one weapon unless you just want to
Don't need to take a moment to stop and repair equipment (which took what, 5 seconds tops if you didn't have them on a shortcut)
One less bar to keep track of to be able to fight at your strongest
Getting and keeping the items isn't necessary (though they weren't all that hard to get anyway)
I can't think of anything else.
If anyone wants to add to it, feel free. I could do the same for the lock on thing but it'd be shorter and I think everyone gets why the old lock on was better anyway.
>>342318947
>Basing a character off a real life person is stupid!
>>342319240
It is when you're a salty PCuck.
>>342319240
It's particularly stupid when that character is a fucking historical nobody.
>>342319608
But he's a revered and respected historical figure in Japan to this very day.
Plus he served as the basis for Captain Blackthorne in James Clavell's Shogun, which sold 15 million copies and had a highly popular television adaptation in the early 80s with Richard Chamberlain and Toshiro Mifune.
>>342308397
A novel based on William Adams was also written, there was even a miniseries adaptation made for it.
>>342319608
>historical nobody
>one of the very few westerners to ever become a real samurai
>put Japan on the map in regards to trade and foreign policy
>is praised to this day by many in Japan and is very highly renowned
It's ok to just admit when you don't know something
>>342314397
>>342315128
Geralt actually wields a Katana in the old low budget tv show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6bidTGtuhw
Also note on the map screen that "Wooden Sword" is listed as a reward for completing the tutorial mission, so those guys hoping you could take that and William's training hakama into the main game seen to be in luck!
>>342319843
>>342319975
He was a historical nobody who had no impact on Japan. The only reason why he's even known is because of weeaboos who love touching themselves to the idea WE WUZ SAMRUAIZ AND SHITZ
>>342320376
bokken-only run soon
>>342319608
Japan is totally willing to use way less important people to make games off of. The Yakuza spinoffs Kenzan and Ishin go from using someone as known as Miyamoto Musashi to a later spinoff where you use Sakamoto Ryoma instead. That's a pretty big step down.
>>342320552
There better be a Goddamn trophy for that shit!
>>342314397
Honestly outside of the silver hair they look nothing alike
>>342320672
It's just parrots thinking they are being funny.
>>342320618
>Sakamoto Ryoma
>minor historical figure
Nigga you better check your facts.
2kat looks fun.
I hope they expand the skill tree
>>342320618
Sakamoto is a fucking huge historical figure in Japan
Definitively on the top 10 and arguarbly on the top 5
>>342310040
Not me, sadly. I couldn't past from the first bandits.
>>342320376
That's cool as hell. They make so many awesome little decisions like that, it's why I want the bad feedback changes reverted cause they really know what they're doing with this game. Been a long time since I've been this excited for a whole new game, and the alpha was just so good.
Hattori Hanzo
Dayum
shit looks hectic yo, Nioh looks BEAST dude.
>>342321418
Is he gonna be a bro?
>>342321418
>black eyebrows
>black pony tail thing
>grey as fuck sides
I'd care if that shit eating smirk didn't make me immediately love him.
>>342308397
a white country would have never done that for a foreigner, especially of asian origin. why are whites so racist?
Jesus christ this looks awful. Didn't this have a huge budget? It looks like a generic low budget weebshit action JRPG but in a slightly more interesting than usual background which it completely fails to deliver on anyway.
The setting and enemies are so unbelievably fucking boring and bland for what we were promised. The shitty animations aren't doing the combat any justice, either. I downloaded the demo and I didn't think it was anything special even then despite what /v/ said but it made me hopeful that the final release would be overall better in terms of level and enemy design. The combat looks exactly the same and just as boring, I can't tell if it was because they simply didn't show anything cool/new or whatever but it was severly lacking in variety. This looks like a step back, if anything. If the lighting was slightly worse this shit could VERY easily pass as a last gen title whenever you're indoors, it looks pretty hideous overall as it is.
Games like Souls that put the combat before everything else rely on solid level and enemy design in order to succeed. This just looks like you're running through lifeless and dull looking linear maps and interacting with random shit for no reason at all while fighting the occasional slow, hunkering enemy. Literally how the fuck do you mess up a fantasy/folklore-centric Japan setting? That boss fight at the end was so laughably bad holy shit. I wish they went for a Ninja Gaiden fast paced and action oriented approach instead because this shit looks slower AND easier than Souls while having significantly worse designs in literally every single department.Of course this means literally nothing because I'm sure most of you stupid weebs will eat anything Japan shits out regardless.
>>342322639
This is targeting dark souls norms, not weebs.
Name one reason to add a stamina bar to a game like this other than to implement artificial difficulty.
>>342305971
It looks just as shitty as dark souls. Literally dark for no reason
>>342322639
I haven't got a good soulsborne game in 5 years, I'm desperate for anything.
>>342308185
The white samurai is literally a trope. White people just want to be asian so bad.
>>342322915
Name one reason a health bar exists outside artificial difficulty
>>342319863
Don't keep us in suspense!
Tell us what it was!
>>342322639
Yep its weebshit/dark souls pandering. Koei knows who their audience is
>>342322639
>The setting and enemies are so unbelievably fucking boring and bland for what we were promised.
What were you promised?
There is nothing in the trailer that wasn't in the demo besides the additional bosses
>>342323185
Because getting cut hurts. How does a samurai get tired after swinging 5 or 6 times?
>>342305971
>gets to the boss fight withMuneshige Tachibana
>hovers over the Oh No! gesture and then quits out of the game
I bet he went further than he was supposed to for the video. Also holy shit they nerfed the hell out of the stone sentries, before they worked great as slow but tanky physical damage sponges that were weak to Ki and elemental damage, but now you don't need to do even that to fight them. And I was a higher level than he was in the demo so it's not that.
>>342320479
Its not funny whem kids are wrong and insist being wrong...thats Why your mom comes here to take a good dicking to relieve the stress of taking care of you...grow up kiddo for your mom sake
>>342323429
Being Level 40 at that stage is still overlevelled as hell, though.
>>342323423
>How does a samurai get tired after swinging 5 or 6 times?
Proof?
>>342323253
See >>342319843
James Clavell's Shogun.
>>342323674
You need to look really carefully at my image, Ingles.
>>342323576
Yeah it's overleveled, but the point I was making was that even when I was at that level those enemies in the level before that one took much longer to kill when fighting the same way. That was with a Raikiri and my stats geared more towards katana use as well. Pretty sure they did more damage to me even. If you make the slow but strong and bulky guys weak and quick to cut down, then all they have left is being slow.
I actually feel like this stage needs more of those Stone Soldiers.
I keep waiting for one of those to start walking but those moments are too rare
>>342322192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu
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>Chu served as the 12th United States Secretary of Energy from 2009 to 2013
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>Eric Ken Shinseki is a retired United States Army general who served as the seventh United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs
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>Daniel Ken "Dan" Inouye was a United States Senator from Hawaii from 1963 to 2012.
>was President pro tempore of the United States Senate from 2010 until his death in 2012
>highest-ranking Asian American politician in U.S. history
>>342310795
I think it releases October.
>>342324061
Truth be told, I've never actually watched the miniseries, let alone knew John-Rhys Davies was in it.Is it good?
>>342324068
I do see your point, though admittedly the ones in the new clip could be nerfed generic ones, since the ones after the optional shrine before the Nue fight were kinda minibosses in a sense and didn't respawn,
>>342324289
It's just "Late 2016" officially, that October 28 date listed in Europe could quite well be a placeholder. Though if they're only 70% done, I could see it being pushed back a year.
>>342323429
Dude hes level 40 in a level 5 mission
>>342310309
Only 2% of the people who downloaded the demo got Mark of the Conqueror, according to the numbers they posted.
>>342320030
Hah, this is fucking great.
>>342323429
Oh my god i feel so dumb
I was trying to figure it out who was the old samurai he was fighting in the trailer
Of fucking course it wasMuneshige Tachibana.
The answer was right in front of me, but i completely forgot about him
>bait paragraph gets more yous than my examination of a controversial mechanic that was changed and has only the upcoming beta as an opportunity to be reintroduced
>>342305971
Oh great, more Autism Souls style gameplay.
>>342324262
To be fair i don't think the situation is the same here.
Those men were born in the US of A.
>>342324591
So was I, if not higher.
>>342324496
Could be, but that still seems like it defeats the point. Either way, it seems like they've lowered attack and defence on enemies, that's probably the most clear looking proof since we can't tell his exact equipment stats.
>>342324295
oh yeah man, give it a watch. The whole thing in good quality was up on youtube not long ago, but sadly it seems that finally got taken down. I've got the DVD set, but if you're just casually interested, there's of course easier methods of checking it out.
>>342324892Now the Nue and Raikiri make perfect sense.
>>342305971
that looks pretty boring
>>342325483
I'm dumb.
I guess the Momiji clone is either Ginchiyo or Kaihime.
The bad guy is Tadashige?
played the alpha (or beta?). controls were shit, contents lame. it's weeaboo souls.
Damn, this samurai dlc for Dark Souls 3 looks really good.
Remember, the angrier a game makes shitposters on /v/, the better it is.
Always do the opposite of what /v/ says.
>>342308185
It's based off of an actual person, retard.
>>342325629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmUPfN33a8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0_D0nykqk
If you want to see someone actually decent at the game play it.
>>342325687
Yeah I assumed she was Ginchiyo when she first showed up, since he washes ashore on Kyushu. Not sure who the bad guy is, but he's someone William knows and speaks English, so I doubt he's from Japan. Looking forward to seeing who else shows up.
>>342325687
No, the chick that looks like Momiji is Akatsu from the manga that's going on now (also from Koei Tecmo called Nioh).
It has William as the main character, Hattori Hanzo (which looks EXACTLY like the Japanese dude we saw with the ninja gear in the trailer), and Akatsu or whatever her name is who is from his clan.
>>342326339
Fucking William Adams went to Japan in the 1600s for god knows WHAT reason, became a Samurai, had a wife and kids, and was friends with the shogun.
WAT.
>>342305971
hopefully the e3 build has you overpowered because that looks staggeringly easier than the alpha demo they released.
Very important to remember that challenging games usually don't demo well because the take a while to learn, and any feedback the devs get regarding difficulty needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
After the hole DaS3 left in my heart with how easy it was I need Ni-Oh to offer something challenging, like Ninja Gaiden did for me 12 years ago.
>>342326408
The bad guy is probably someone from Irish mythology.
William is British, as is the villain.
Mythological creatures are real in their world.
The villain is openly disdainful about their location (strongly implying he's not from there), and is surprised that William has followed him that far.
Last note: The female voice speaking in the trailer is speaking Gaelic, and appears to be some sort of mytholgical creature keeping William from dying permanently.
>>342326462
Ah, i see.
>>342318947
>wahhh I don't like it its objectively shit pay attention to me
Conquered detected. You literally could not be more conquered
>>342326576
Don't be too alarmed by the damage in the demo. I remember that specific armor set, and it's one of the heavy sets.
On top of that, look at how much Amrita he needs to level up. He's REALLY overleveled.
And despite that, he still goes down in 3-4 hits, or 1-2 if counter hit (like when the stone Samurai nicks him during an attack) or from behind.
>>342326550
Based protoweeb.
>>342324068
>Raikiri
Dude, they're made of stone. You suffer major damage penalties against armored units. The difference between my Ishida Masamune and my Haja the Evil Crusher vs them was INSANE.
>>342305971
>Witcher 4 is a peasant station exclusive
>>342326740
I think the Celtic Goddess thing that's keeping an eye on William might be the pink fairy thing on the promo artwork and in the TGS trailer, particularly since pink doesn't correspond to any particular element in the game.
>>342327129
The protagonist looks vaguely similar, that's where the similarities end. The combat is way ahead of anything in the Witcher series,
>>342327074
Yeah and in the video he's not even using a special looking katana and tearing them apart in about 4 mid stance hits. I just used Raikiri as an example of a high end katana but they're totally weaker in the video than they were in the demo, the damage penalty isn't there anymore.
This looks interesting, but why does it look similar to some game I've played before. Is there a reason for it (ie. staff related)? Or is it just the best way to present the game
I will most likely buy it day 1 and I am not shitposting just genuinely curious.
>>342327294
Yup, just in terms of graphic design both are square in the center of that image used everywhere.
>>342327480
I feel like you're panicking and coming to conclusions based on things that will satisfy your emotional state.
As several anons mentioned before, he's overleveled, his armor is strong enough to negate giant chunks of damage at the cost of Ki usage and evasion, and we don't know his stats.
>>342327496
Basically imagine bits of Souls/BB, Onimusha, Itagaki-era Ninja Gaiden, Way of the Samurai, Bushido Blade and Genji put into a blender.
>>342309927
>One group said it KEE you Shoe. The other group said Kyushu as we know it know
Huh how is supposed to sound exactly? Both sound the same in my head
>>342327480
Weapons in the beta now have a familiarity stat. This increases the damage multiplier of that weapon, and goes back to something Yasuda said in an interview:
Will you choose to stick with your old weapon that you've used for ages, for dump it for a newer one?
![dpQAC2Tb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NV7qloN.jpg "dpQAC2Tb[1].jpg")
Is this the chick from the trailer?
>>342314605
The "muh difficulty" shit started since DeS. It's fucking retarded but that's how it is now. Any game where you can actually die more than 1 or 2 times is considered hard.
>>342326913
I missed playing the Alpha demo because of fucking DaS3 but I'm going to make sure I play the one in August.
I'm kind of disheartened that they're getting rid of the durability mechanic, from what I had seen the idea was that you'd have 4 or 5 weapons equipped at once, like how pirates would have multiple old flintlock pistols holstered, to use and discard and you'd need to eat through your arsenal and pick up new swords, like an OSP survival mechanic.
The way they're taking on player feedback is pretty great but for games like this, Souls, or Ninja Gaiden, I'm not sure it's constructive, players will always bleat and moan that it's too hard until they ''get it''. And the devs need to be careful that they don't nerf their vision out of concern for this early impression that players get.
>>342305971
spoonfeed me. is this just koei's attempt at a souls-like game or what?
>>342311484
Wait this is a Koei game? No wonder it looks like it plays like shit
>>342327751
but the question is, will it taste good?
Nevertheless I'm still hyped
>nip souls
>>342328145
Yep, the alpha demo was a little rough around the edges, but it was excellent. After a bit of sanding down (Which they seem to be doing just based on what we know already), it'll be a real GotY contender.
>>342326550
Weebs back in the day were the real deal senpai
>>342327894
They had that stat in the original demo it was just turned off I think.
>>342328064
The Siliconera interview is REALLY informative. They've got a very clear vision of what type of game they want to make, so while they're willing to take feedback they won't compromise their design goals for the game.
Durability was hugely flawed in the alpha. Even trading in everything at the shrines, Whetstones and Nikawa Glue were far too scarce. Equipment had very low durability stats, and shit breaking in a goddamn boss battle is just unacceptable.
Couple that with the fact you technically only had 2 shortcut slots (1 item was dedicated to each directional pad direction, but the healing item and weapon swapping took two of them) and repairing items meant digging through cumbersome menus for the item.
In the middle of a battle where getting struck in the back or side brings with it huge damage multipliers.
>>342328341
Yeah, familiarity was listed in the demo, but not implemented yet. It's how we know about the fact there was gonna be a blacksmith in the final version before they took out durability altogether; he got a mention in the help section for familiarity.
>>342327480
Hes very overleveled. It took at least 10 hits for the boss at the end to kill him
>>342328341
It was turned off + it doesn't work as it does now.
BTW, this picture is the Nurikabe which'll be the boss at Nakatsu castle.
>>342328481
We also figured out some upcoming weapons thanks to screens of the equipment menu showing:
- Kusarigama
- Dual Katanas
- Tanesgashima-type firearms
no more nioh threads until august, i love the threads but i dont want to get bored of them
>>342327745
Nah this isn't the first time I've seen the E3 gameplay, and I was actually relieved about how intact the game seemed to be. I'm talking mostly about the damage he does to the sentry though I remember dying in about 3 or so hits, while it took me several Ki bars of high stance combos to kill them. Also again, I got to that same level in the demo myself and had a lot of high level equipment. Actually now that I think about it we do see his stats when he goes to the level up screen, so we could compare from that.
>>342328536
The day area has a castle in it?
>>342328685
Yes, we got a quick glimpse of the world map in the Dual Shockers video.
We can see the Demon Isle area.
We can see the Dazaifu Temple area.
We can see that the dark, underground area is accessed from an elevator behind the Nue boss room.
We can see Nakatsu castle to the southwest of Dazaifu, that's the daylight area.
In an interview the team was undecided whether they were going to have the Corpse Licker yokai lady be in the Beta demo.
>>342320376
>weakest weapon at the beginning
>increase familiarity with it
>becomes most powerful weapon in the game
>>342328829
But the corpse licker is in a cave
>>342328829
She's in the demo build that journalists were allowed to play at the very least, apparently if you inflict TOO much damage on her when she's stunned, she'll unleash a highly powerful counter (So an AoE, presumably).
>>342327894
That was in the original demo but it didn't do anything yet. It mentioned how it would give you a spirit when disassembling the weapon or something but I don't really believe that they only added the increase in damage in response to removing durability. That seems like something they would have thought of and planned out already. It doesn't sound like it'd work as well without durability either honestly, since it gives even less reason to have another weapon to swap to. But I also can't imagine it giving such a huge damage increase that you can cut down the tankiest non-boss enemies in 4 hits with a more generic katana, if an attack boost really is what it does now.
>>342316313
Yaaay
>>342305971
Oh shit DOOWAL WIELD
>>342328410
You're totally overrating how fast durability actually decreased overall as well as how hard to find items were. Sure, they didn't show up as often in the first level, but since you're at the beginning you find multiple weapons on par with the one you have at that point and can just trade out and work your way through them. This means you don't have to use the items you do get when offering the broken ones.
In the second level, stones and glue were a bit more plentiful, with some spots dedicated to getting more, and you were starting to get weapons you could actually rely on so more could be offered. And hell, maybe it's just me but I'd love to have a boss fight my sword breaks on, but it didn't happen to me at all. You can equip at least two weapons though, and katanas are the least durable of weapons while axes have twice as much.
I didn't find the menus hard to navigate either. Just sort the items and then whetstones and glue are the first option. I think it also remembers what item you're on last as well so using them only took me about 2 seconds at most. They added more item shortcuts anyway and there are plans to add a shop too so really it would have needed to be made rougher in the long run, but it was pretty good how it was in the confines of the demo.
>>342329371
You're going into tinfoil hat territory. Considering how all the changes in the beta have been overwhelmingly praised by folks who got to play the damn thing, I'll side with them on this.
The alpha's execution of durability was some of the worst I'd ever seen.
>>342330269
You're making this too personal.
The durability was a mistake. The problem was echoed across all 850,000 folks who played the game. Team Ninja considered it to be egregious enough to purge from the game and replace with a system that benefits players who master one-type of weapon as opposed to playing the game as if it's Diablo.
>>342330269
He's not really overstating anything. One thing that got ALL my friends to agree on about the alpha was the durability shit.
ALL of us had our fucking weapon break against Onryoki and Nue, despite having repaired them in the nearby shrine.
The only acceptable solution to keep durability in, IMO, would be to septuple the fucking equipment durability.
Item degradation almost never adds anything to games beyond tedium. They are exceedingly difficult to execute well. If equipment degrades too slowly (DS3), it might as well be off entirely. If it degrades too quickly, it's a fucking chore and leads to desperately trying to fix things.
>>342328619
This is the best time to have Nioh threads though, gotta know for sure what we'd like in the game so when we play it we can give proper feedback on the surveys.
>>342330794
>Item degradation almost never adds anything to games beyond tedium. They are exceedingly difficult to execute well. If equipment degrades too slowly (DS3), it might as well be off entirely. If it degrades too quickly, it's a fucking chore and leads to desperately trying to fix things.
You're not wrong, I can't think of any games that do it well in a way that adds tension to a game instead of annoyance, but I like the IDEA of it.
Certainly looks better than the alpha, though I'm not too crazy about the level design and the animations.
You'd think there would be more Souls-inspired games considering how popular they are.
>>342331091
Oh, the idea of item degradation is awesome. Locked in the heat of battle you're duking it out with your opponent. You're in a methodical battle looking for openings, parrying, etc...
And during all this is the pressure of your gear slowly falling apart as extra incentive to end this engagement quickly.
However, in practice, it never works that way.
>>342330594
>The durability was a mistake.
The lack of a shop to buy glue and whetstones was a mistake. Removing an entire game mechanic was a mistake. Equipment having durability was NOT a mistake.
>>342331696
Why would want more micromanaging in an ACTION game?
>>342331696
Equipment durability is a mistake. Removing a faulty, unfun mechanic from a game is a net good.
See anon's post here: >>342330794
>>342331696
Durability never adds anything to the game other than artificially decreasing your resources.
>>342308185
If you'd stop prepping your wife's son you might notice the game is itself made by the Japanese.
>>342330473
Not really, I mean if it supposedly made his weapon that strong then you would never need to swap weapon until like 4 levels in, and then what's the point of having a random drop system? Beta's technically not out yet either, it's only really been played at E3 by >game journalists
>>342330594
Team Ninja took it out because of people complaining about it, that's all. Similar to them making the Ki stagger shorter because people complained about it when they hadn't mastered Ki Pulse, or when they complained about being hit in the back while locked on because they ran instead of walked.
Each weapon within the class was wielded the same as well, so that doesn't benefit people using one type so much as it benefits using one weapon alone. With all this encouragement towards using only a single weapon, it just makes the random loot system pointless. Do you want that removed too? A durability system you can actually feel the effects of for once is not a bad system.
>>342331696
So in order to keep weapon/armor health around, you have to have a shopkeeper, mandating a player go through the busywork of buying repair items in order to engage in the busywork of equipment maintenance.
Fuck that.
>>342331804
Because you stop to rest at shrines before pushing forward in a level, which is a very good point to take a look at your stats before leveling, and to check your gear and top off on items you need.
>>342331846
You're not wrong anon, but the game had currency(gold) which was never once used in the demo, and I'd like it to have an actual use in the final product even if it's just to waste on shit like glue and stones.Also katanas are shit swords and I liked the idea of needing to keep it sharp.
>>342332059
Gold was used for the Kodama buffs, but yeah, you were earning waaaayyyyy too much to have it restricted just to that.
>>342332059
But you're gonna stop at a shrine regardless since they act as your checkpoints. Look at diablo. The durability in that game did nothing but waste your time. It didnt force you to change weapons consistently. The improved stats of loot was the one that did
>>342330794
>ALL of us had our fucking weapon break against Onryoki and Nue, despite having repaired them in the nearby shrine.
Were you all using katanas and blocking everything? Katanas are not a defensive weapon in part because of the low durability they have. Keep in mind as well that you can equip two weapons at once and whetstones repair both equipped weapons on use. Is it really a bad thing that it's possible for your weapon to break during the boss fight? It just means there's another threat you have to deal with, another bar you need to heal if necessary between fights. That isn't a chore, it's a mechanic that livens up combat and makes you fight efficiently.
>>342331870
>Team Ninja took it out because of people complaining about it, that's all.
Because it doesn't conflict with their design goals for the game. It's just item durability, it means fuck all in the grand scheme of things. The entire point of the Alpha was user feedback.
>Similar to them making the Ki stagger shorter because people complained about it when they hadn't mastered Ki Pulse.
Nioh's one of the few games EVER that utterly robs you of mobility when out of stamina. Usually that's relegated to RPGs who function on action points. Ki system was poorly explained in the Alpha, which explains people's intense desire to see the stagger replaced/reduced.
>or when they complained about being hit in the back while locked on because they ran instead of walked.
Because the natural thing to do when in danger is to run. The camera's old behavior while locked was bizarre. The game heavily penalizes being counterhit or being struck in the back, but allows you to show your back essentially rewarding you with death for attempting to evade an attack. Which is the case for the overwhelming majority of games.
The new lock-on movement behavior is more along the lines of what you'd expect. Instead of turning the fuck around, he simply backs up quickly. It was strange that in order to back up in the Alpha you had to do a damn dodge rather than hold away from the target.
>>342331696
honestly, there was so much candy dropping from the fucking pinata enemies in the demo that an "obligatory" item type like glue needed to be cut just to reduce the loot burden
>>342331804
Why would you want more stats in an RPG? This is an Action RPG that wants to reward "methodical or strategic" play, after all.
>>342332414
>Ki system was poorly explained in the Alpha, which explains people's intense desire to see the stagger replaced/reduced.
imo the long stagger led to bizarre and undesirable scenarios, like it being better to run away to regen stamina vs. large oni
hopefully the stamina stagger is also reduced for enemy humanoids because i thought baiting attacks until they fell over was a little too easy
>>342332413
Chores do not liven up anything.
They're a weight on the ankle of possibility.
I primarily used spears and axes and ran into the same problem as when using katanas. There was little to no difference in durability between the weapon types.
You speak of fighting efficiently, but even engaging in Ki Pulse heavy barrages that let me deal with 3 Yokai at once with least almost always left my weapons in danger.
And against bosses your durability dropped like a rock no matter what you did.
That's not even getting into armor degradation and how that affected the overall dynamic of the game. In a title where even incidental damage had you repairing your armor every two seconds, where getting hit meant losing a quarter to half your health, that's fucking ridiculous.
