Games just don't feel right on PC.
Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
PCs are just for work and internet.
And developers know that people on PC care more about graphics than the actual game which is why so few PC exclusives get made because the developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play.
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
Not an argument.
>My preferences should be everyone's preferences, why aren't they?
>>342222925
Good one, OP.
What other lies have console users made up about PCs?
>>342222925
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy
You blew it, anon.
I prefered consoles when it was just get a console, put a game in and play.
Now it's firmware updates this, game update that. Register yourself here, have some vidya unrelated shit there. Consoles have pretty much turned into low tier copies of PCs with the only advantage being that a couch tends to be comfier than a swivel chair.
>>342222925
Consoles are for stealing money.
If you are anything but jobless or less than 7th grade you will need a PC. And why have a console when you can just up your PC if you want to play games so bad.
>>342223409
You can play PC on couch m8.
>>342222925
Nice bait, I will bite
30 fps feels better?
Companies that milk you like cows and make you pay monthly money to even play online?
PC's are for everything
Consoles only have shitty titles that focus on graphics
>>342222925
>2016
>owning a console
>>342222925
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
It probably comes to what you grew up with/which one you had first.
I played only on PC till I was 16.
Consoles never felt good as good for me as PC.
I have a few consoles because of their exclusives, but I will always prefer PC.
To this day I do not understand the console vs pc argument
I own a gaming pc, I own a PS4, I own a Wii u, they each have fun games, each has its own merits
Stop yelling at each other like angry children and enjoy your fucking video games you actual peasants, GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE FUN, WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HATE HAVING FUN, WHO HURT YOU?
If games aren't meant for PC, then why are they made on them?
>>342223594
those are all shit
>>342223704
Don't you fucking try to apply sound logic here, the massive success of pc gaming has no relevance in this argument
>>342223652
>Zelda
>random allcaps
Why are you talking like a tumblrina?
>>342223652
actually kill yourself, retard
>>342223652
>Stop yelling at each other like angry children and enjoy your fucking video games
>>342223652
But people on /v/ don't play games anymore, they just shitpost and yell at each other. What are you trying to accomplish here? They stopped enjoying games years ago.
>>342223642
If you use an Xbox or Playstation controller there's literally no difference in feel once the game's running. The biggest difference is that console have basically no KB+Mouse support.
>>342222925
My sides!
>>342222925
I hope you enjoyed making that shitpost as much as I enjoyed reading it, OP.
>>342224048
I know, but even when I have the option to play something on PC with a controller and a console, I will always pick PC. I don't know why, it just feels right.
4channers will actually reply to this thread.
>>342223594
>Win10 games
>PC
>>342222925
>who care about there fans
Their.
and no they don't. They care about money and selling a box to the ignorant scum that can't understand that they are just being sold a shit version of a PC
>so few PC exclusives.
Few? PC has the most exclusives. But I cannot imagine the children that play halo caring about civ4,RA2 and supcom etc. You don't even know they exist.
>>342222925
>few PC exclusives get made because the developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play.
>>342224043
I just wanted to casually discuss videogames with people, anon, that's all I ever wanted...but not like this
>>342224182
>Using an obsolete and outdated system
>Being a consoletard.
>>342223652
poorfags, remember the $5/mo meme with ps3
>>342224251
I know anon, I know.
I was also this delusional about /v/, but a few days here and you will already realize what a fucking shithole it is.
>muh toy is much superior than your tool
>>342224312
>>342222925
> people will respond to this bait
Come on, /v/, you're better than this
>>342224182
Can be pirated now is what that means.
>>342222925
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
Factually wrong since we can actually play most games at the optimal 60fps range.
>>342223409
PS2/Xbox hueg era was the last of that feel.
Now every company goes by the Bethesda method.
Release it broken, no stress, we can patch it later, everyone's got 24/7 high speed internet access.
Modern consoles are now nerfed, locked down PCs.
>>342222925
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
This makes no sense.
>>342222925
>developers don't like to focus on graphics
What wonderful planet have I woken up on today, and can I stay forever?
>>342223704
Because making a game is work and PC's are for work.
Simple.
>>342225156
Then why do they run and look better on PC?
>>342223594
I don't think subnautica should be in there. The latest updates that came out were super fucking shit, things that really should have been in there from the beggining and shouldn't have taken 4 months to complete.
Perhaps if it ever comes out of early access it could stay
>>342225208
Because they need to be tested before being made gold. Are you retarded?
>>342222925
>Hi, I'm 16, and I have to justify my poor mother's purchase for me. One day, I'll grow out of this horrible phase of my life in which I have to constantly demean others for their platform of choice, while silently lamenting that I can't afford more than one to form my own opinion.
Sorry, OP, that's all I got from your stupid shit.
>>342225586
Yeah, glorious golden 900p@30fps(now with even more dips)
>>342225747
At least it runs the same on every persons console. Are you implying you have the same rig as the dev intended?
>>342222925
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
>have to pay for online play because consolefags are too cucked to say no to a service that tries to fuck them over
>>342223525
This. Console appears cheaper, but it isn't. It's designed to eat up your allowance money by luring you in with a lower cost of entry, but everything else adds up.
>ps2 and ps3 lasted 7 years
>if ps4 lasts 7 years, the multiplayer subscription will end up costing more than the console itself
>new releases are $60, whereas on PC you can get 20% off all new releasesMINIMUM
If you factor both those things, a PS4 ends up costing more than a $1000 PC does if you buy at least 25 games throughout the generation.
>>342225801
>muh dev intentions
If the devs want you to play at sub par resolutions and framerates, they're retards. And you're even more of a retard for eating that shit up.
>>342222925
>I don't like gaming on pc
>it does too many things
someone said this to me
>>342222925
k
>>342223742
>gets btfo'd
>t-those are all shit
>developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play
So why does every major PS4/Xbone game run at barely 30fps?
>>342225943
More genres. For instance, Engineering games like Factorio and KSP. These games are generally only for the PC, or get ported to console much later.
>>342226121
>only has one reason
I said 5 you fucking idiot console alwats better
Pc owners are just a bunch of faggots. They spend more time trying to justify being a pc owners than playing video games.
Exclusive are the best games ever made. To ahead, make an honest top 100 video game list.
It will be filled with a bunch of Nintendo exclusives.
No where will you find truck driving simulators or indie shit games.
>emulation
90% of all emulation that isn't 2D is trash
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans
I know that this is a bait thread but fucking kek
>>342222925
PC is irrelevant trash with outdated graphics and shovel ware as its 'exclusives'.
Consoles are the platforms meant for gaming not shitty pc
>>342222925
the only reason one would prefer to play a shooter on console than on PC is because they've never tried to play one on PC
Eh it's all about personal preferences
Some people just want to get comfy in their sofa and play console games
Other people don't mind using their pc
>>342226225
I wouldn't put a single Nintendo game into my top 100.
>>342225943
>Only one reason
That's what I fucking thought dumbshit mustard race subhuman
>>342226225
It'll be filled with Nintendo exclusives because most of the people who make these lists are nostalgic for their childhood.
>>342225914
At least it allows them to optimise to a standard instead of having launch issues all across the board on various machines.
>>342226312
Let me get this straight. The most popular games on the PC have poor graphics, yes? And you're saying that this is bad because graphics are important?
>>342222925
>developers don't like to focus on graphics over gameplay
That is literally all that has been happening on consoles for the last decade.
This is some low quality bait but you made me respond so you get a 4/10.
>>342222925
this is really old pasta, right?
If not, this
>And developers know that people on PC care more about graphics than the actual game which is why so few PC exclusives get made because the developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play.
is a misconception/lie in every way possible.
And this
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
is either a great joke, or really just sad.
>>342226225
>Pc owners are just a bunch of faggots. They spend more time trying to justify being a pc owners than playing video games.
You literally just described sonyggers.
>Exclusive are the best games ever made. To ahead, make an honest top 100 video game list.
I agree. S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, Half Life(primarily PC game) would surely be in that list. Plus, a "top 100 best x" list will always be subjective.
>>342226340
>PC
>assemble computer in 30 minutes
>install OS in 10
>install steam
>download games
>free online so no need to subscribe to fee
>play your games literally anywhere
Fixed it for ya.
>>342225884
>>new releases are $60,
Get with the times. New Releases are $48 on Amazon.
>70 replies
When will you retards learn? It truly is summer.
>>342226225
>comes into a thread on the internet to call PC owners faggots who would rather justify owning PCs instead of playing video games
>unironically
>>342225045
>PS2/Xbox hueg era was the last of that feel. >Modern consoles are now nerfed, locked down PCs.
Exactly, consoles tried to do too much and as a result had to change into gimped PCs.
There was no problem with them coexisting when they were what they were back around early 2000s, now they make themselves more and more obsolete.
>>342222925
>Faggot emotional argument
>Objectively wrong
>Objectively wrong again
>And wrong again!
>>342226746
I kek'd
>>342226685
20$ bucks on G2A.
The only reason there are games on pc trash is due to console ports.
Otherwise steam would resemble Google Play store.
PC is trash.
>>342226225
>They spend more time trying to justify being a pc owners than playing video games.
Then your kind is the bigger faggotry as they seemingly have to make threads like these instead of playing games, to make their e-peens grow hard or whatever.
>>342226903
Most multiplats are made with PC in mind you mong
>>342226312
taking the bait but lets see console users try to compete vs mouse and keyboard in any shooting game
>>342226340
Console
>put disc in
>download actual game after basic install from software license platform that is preinstalled on console
>hopefully tiny stock hard drive isn't full
>start game
>no SSD so loading takes forever
>no options
>720p scaled up to 1080p
>reduced post FX and fidelity
>frame limits
>auto aim
>play game with good directional, but shitty positional controller
>limited keys result in dumbed down games
>new console comes out
>all old games worthless
>no new games until a year later
>can't play competitor games because incompatible platforms
>no modding for longevity
>patches takes forever because certification process
>XBone no longer has exclusives, because Win 10
FTFY
The rest is just you being too dumb for your own good. I bet you prefer iPhones.
>>342222925
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
try harder, nigger
>>342222925
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
muh feelings
go away retard
>>342223528
it's like people don't know this or can't understand it
>>342227032
>Most multiplats are made with PC in mind
>>342222925
>Microsoft
>Caring about fans
>Sony
>Caring about fans
>Nintendo
>Caring about...well alright I'll give you this one.
The reason PCs work is BECAUSE they aren't manufactured by a single company. PC 'gamers' tend to build their own, piecemeal, from parts from MANY companies.
>>342222925
I'm 43. I've played videogames since Zork and Pac-Man.
Can't buy newest games on PC because it doesnt have specs that qualify. Buy a slightly older game instead. Install. Run it. PC crashes. Check settings. Check hardware. Tweak random thing for your random configuration. Run it again. Looks just like consoles. Run it at higher quality. Computer melts.
Get new computer. Reinstall game. Oops, now your processor is too good. Can't play old games. Buy new game instead. Plays like shit. Will be patched later. (and now the patch shit infested consoles too)
Can't stand using mouse+keyboard - its cheat mode for aiming, but shit for movement. Can't get comfy and shift positions cuz always have to be sitting the same way. Try to attach gamepad to PC, HAHA right. (they finally fixed this in the last few years when Microsoft made the Xbox controllers straight plug and play and SOME games can use it.)
seriously. 25 years of PC games being impossible to run easily, and for slightly better graphics than consoles you just burn through computers/parts faster.
it is not worth it. PCfags have always been fags and always will be fags. Once PC gaming moved away from Infocom, point and click and the earliest Might & Magics, there has literally been no reason to play on the PC.
PC gamers defend cuz piracy.
And this thread filled with "pay for online" when PC gaming is what started monthly fees for individual games and microtransactions. Literally STFU.
>>342227032
Tell that to From
>>342226225
Truth
>>342226340
Holy shit, so much concentrated bullshit and denial in one post, I don't even know where to start.
>Cost
Gaming PCs can be built for as little as $600 and run all current stuff, if you aren't a COMPLETE shitter at finding good prices.
>Manually put it together
So fucking what, in todays world is like assembling legos and takes less than an hour, on average.
>Need Steam
Not if you don't want it. GOG and other DRM-free sources exist you know.
>Constant updates slow playing of the game
Only a retarded console baby could somehow consider bugfixes and content updates a bad thing. I'm not going to even try to argue with this stupidity.
>Playing older games from emulated years aka N64, controller problems
Now you're just lying. Xbox controllers work with windows with zero extra software, playstation ones require ONE easily found driver. Nintendo ones can't even be plugged in because those cunts refuse to use USB.
>All that other shit
Its literally just you being a fucking retard.
Congratulations, I bit the bait. You fuckin dumbass.
>>342227074
>>limited keys result in dumbed down games
this is crock and has ALWAYS been bad game design.
I'm playing Divinity Original Sin on Xbox right now and I have a 50 move toolbar that is 5 sets of 10 that I flip through with the bumpers and then move over to the right spot. Since its turn-based, that works fine.
DCUniverse Online of all places (at least thats the first console game I saw do it right) showed how easy and inuitive it is to map your basic moves to the basic buttons and then use double-input L2+X L2+Y, L2+A, L2+B, R2+x, etc. for an additional 16 moves.
If you actually let the bumpers/triggers work on their own and not just combos, you can also go triple input and have L1+L2+ face , L1+R1 + face etc you can get another 12. And that would be 8+16+12+4(L3,R3, Start/Select) for 40 preset buttons.
How many mother fucking keys do you need?
>>342224197
RTS games are turbogarbage
>>342227307
Fuck off back to youtube, Laron. I know its you.
Also you are completely wrong on every count. Old games don't just 'stop working' because your processor is 'too good', thats what frame rate limits are for you moron. Also you can't blame other people because you're garbage at building a non-shit PC (hint: if you bought it pre-built, unless you paid over 2 grand for it, its shit). The only thing keyboard movement is bad at is modulating movement speed like in stealth games. OH WAIT, I nearly forgot, the best stealth games to have ever existed and that started the entire genre were PC only. Silly me (and stupid you).
>Cant get comfy
Your shit chair has nothing to do with the computer, not to mention you can use fucking huge TVs as the monitors these days.
>>342227307
I'm 32. I've played videogames since Manic Mansion and Dune.
Can buy newest games on PC because my laptop from 2013 still qualifies. Buy a slightly older game. Install. Run it. Process crashes, not the entire computer. Google for a few minutes. Find out the reasons such a missing DLL, an older version of some software required, or a depracted Copy Protection. Fix the issue. Run it again. It looks as good as it did when it was new. Run at max quality, because it's an older game, 60 fps.
Maybe get a new computer this year or beginning of 2017. New GFX technology is interesting. All my games are ready to be downloaded at a click, including my savegames and such. There is rarely any issue with hardware being "too good", as you can emulate older systems with little performance loss or otherwise make the platform backwards compatible. New games run on average computers just fine. Plays well, if you adjust your settings properly. Patches address issues as soon as the patch is ready, rather than having to wait for an arbitrary certification process.
Mouse and keyboard offer precision and as many buttons as one could need - or more, while also having fast typed communication at the ready. Moving with WASD is something glued into my brain since Halflife. Feels natural. Still have a joystick, a gamepad, a steering wheel, pedals. They all work, as I can adjust and program each button, calibrate each axis, and assign them in games, either via HID profiles or natively. XBox controllers are natively installed on Windows systems.
Seriously. 25 years of PC gaming was always a bliss because for every issue, there was a solution. Vastly better graphics and performance, higher precision, and better prices for games, rather than being stuck with a one trick pony that has software which cannot go up or down in it's generations.
Consoles aren't worth it. Console fags have always been delusional about this, and always will be.
etc., etc.
You can fuck right off, idiot.
>>342223409
This
I cant wait till Japan either moves over to PC or just go straight up mobile only.
From a hardware perspective consoles are obsolete.
>>342226487
ever since standardized APIs existed, this is no longer a valid argument. Come back when someone manages to get a modern game working on bare metal
>>342228013
>Old games don't just 'stop working' because your processor is 'too good',
Grim Fandango did. Pretty sure a lot of the old Kings Quests did too.
Wtf is a Laron?
>>342227307
>43
>KBM is cheat mode
>pc sux consoles rule
You can't fool anyone you underage shit.
>>342228346
http://grimfandangodeluxe.blogspot.com/2012/01/running-grim-fandango-on-modern.html
Literally the first result on google, you console mongloid.
Holy shit when will you retards be purged to raise the average IQ of the species?
>>342227846
That control scheme would be unintuitive as fuck.
Like, I get it that eventually you could get used to it, but without standardized controls or the ability to edit configurations by key, each game would have a silly amount of learning random button combinations. Mostly games try to keep it ten buttons, maybe one button being a menu button. but really, hardly any games need more than ten buttons
>>342228346
Yeah, good argument. Try to run Super Mario Bros. on your Wii U, then. I am sure that's gonna go well.
>inb4 "B-but the new Mario runs on it..!"
Different game, same franchise.
>>342228521
You know how LMGTFY is used as an insult? I honestly believe there is faggits out there that fucking need that. Like, how can you be so dumb and helpless to not just punch in "GRAM FANDOODLES ON NEW COMPUTAR" and not find the solution?
>>342223652
>GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE FUN
>he has fun playing games
>>342222925
>got a PS4 for $300 (plus a game)
>Don't have to worry about looking up parts and seeing what's best
>Don't have to worry about constantly upgrading
>Don't have to worry about hackers
>Is guaranteed to play games
>mfw
Kek, thankfully I didn't fall for the PCmeme. It's fucking sad how much Yahtzee has these faggots on a leash.
>>342227032
More like they're developed on high-end PC specs before getting downgraded across the board to function on consoles. High-end PC specs get scrapped to be "fair to console users" (although they have no problems re-releasing those games when it's time for a HD re-release), and they don't bother trying to make things optimal for low-end PCs.
>>342228846
>20Hz
>28fps
>720p upscaled
>muted FX
>no precision
>crutch aim assist
>subscription online services
My dearest summer child...
>>342228707
Its not unintuitive at all. DC Universe is one of the most underated games of the last 10 years.
>>342225884
You're forgetting the fact that you'll have to upgrade your parts on PC every 6 months.
Oh and PSN has sales too ya idjit.
>>342229142
>every 6 months
This is a very hilarious claim from someone who has never even touch a PC before.
>>342229142
confirmed for either bait or hilariously uninformed
>>342224915
>windows 10 apps
>pirating
so naive
>>342228521
>http://grimfandangodeluxe.blogspot.com/2012/01/running-grim-fandango-on-modern.html
That's website is dated 2012. I was having problems with Grim Fandango before Willow Rosenberg told the rest of the country what the fuck Google was in 2002.
And early Google was not current Google. But nice try dumbass. And sure, its easy to find a fix for popular games like Grim Fandango, but I probably spent a few hours trying to find a fix for Starship Titanic.
Who wants to do that? And this is a process that you have to do with EVERY game and EVERY PC. Even today, where a lot of these things are easier, its super rare to get a game to work first try. Even with GOG.
And then theres the melting hardware issue.
>>342227846
DCUO's control scheme was a literal pain for me to use. The game's world just had too much clutter to rely exclusively on controller input.
FFXIV's control scheme wasn't that different, but the game never made me feel like I had to pretzel my fingers around to do everything I wanted.
>>342227307
/thread
>>342228707
>hardly any games need more than ten buttons
then why are all the pc fags saying the consoles dont have enough buttons?
400+ replies guaranteed
>>342229423
Well, you're not wrong at the 1st paragraph but the third paragraph is where you started grasping at straws.
>melting hardware issue
>every game and every PC
>>342228846
>got a PS4 for $300 (plus a game)
>Have to worry about the PS4 Neo coming out next year
>Have to worry about paying for PSN every year
>Have to worry about the service going offline thanks to hackers
>Is guaranteed to play games until 2017 when the new PS4 comes out
>mfw i have no face
>>342222925
> Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
This is the best shit I heard all week, top bait
>>342229574
hotkeys. A concept foreign to consolefags
>>342222925
>And developers know that people on PC care more about graphics than the actual game which is why so few PC exclusives get made because the developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play.
Then how come there are zero (0) console games that run at over 30 fps?
Checkmate
>>342229663
well i bet all these lame ass new indie games that look like minecraft and other 8bit and 16 bit games run just fine.
But they don't count as games.
>>342229423
What in the fuck are you smoking. Like, I am not even joking anymore. You must be a literally constant EMP to make any such claims and believe them yourself.
Also, nice goalposting there, my man.
And if you didn't know to use metacrawler, Fireball, Altavista, or any of the other search engines and meta search engines in 2002, you were at my grandma's level of computer knowledge. Fucking hell, do you find it difficult to program a VCR, too?
>Shit medallion's humming. Bait, has to be.
>>342229745
Except theyre not. Some console games use them just fine and let you map your controls.
Not my fault game designers suck.
Not my fault Nintendo added buttons up through the gamecube and then started taking them away.
>>342229142
>you'll have to upgrade your parts on PC every 6 months.
Can't tell if it's bait or your just another completely uninformed retard who actually thinks this.
Because lawd knows there's a lot of them.
>>342229761
yes, sim city 4 is, indeed, a lame indie game as you claimed
also, dosbox will solve a lot of problems for the really old ones
>>342229825
I don't remember what shitty search engine I used before Google. I just know they were all such shit that Google instantly took over for a reason.
the point is. it was never THAT easy to find fixes. especially with more recent more popular games where the search engine would be flooded with shit responses and pages with viruses. And "back in the day" you usually had to go through a few more steps too that involved more computer knowledge than your fucking grandmother had.
>>342229761
You gotta be 18+ to post here, kiddo
Jesus fuck kill yourself
>>342222925
Thanks for making the containment thread OP.
>>342222925
>Games just don't feel right on PC.
I see the PS4 shills are up bright and early today.
>>342226225
>trying to justify being pc owners
Why would anyone have to justify not being in an obsolete minority?
>>342222925
BAN THESE FUCKING STUPID BAIT THREADS ALREADY HOLY SHIT
NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO SPEND YOUR FUCKING MONEY ON. DIE.
>>342228936
First of all its 900p.
And kek, don't give a shit about any of that, those are literally just talking points that look good on paper, but don't really make games more fun or enhance your experience that much. Plus there is precision on consoles, you just have to turn up the sensitivity and git gud.
>subscription online services
$50/year really isn't that bad, especially considering that most entry level PCs can cost $600 while the PS4 only costs $300.
>>342230104
wait a sec, I thought we were talking about the "now"? why the sudden switch to "back then"?
>>342229423
> My parts literally melt
This is something that pretty everyone with a PC can confirm is total bullshit
> Super rare to get a game to work first try
Alright, fine, faggot
I'll be back in ten minutes, making a vid
For that matter, recommend me a good, fairly modern game for less than 5 bong bucks
>>342223652
>having fun while playing games
delete this
>>342230259
>There is precision on consoles
Thanks to aim assist
>$50/year isn't that bad
you're too short sighted
>>342229665
>Have to worry about the PS4 Neo coming out next year
No I dont. Games will still be guaranteed to play on PS4 you fucking neckbeard.
>Have to worry about paying for PSN every year
If you can't afford $50/year, you probably shouldn't be playing games in the first place. And worrying about a random part that might crap out on me is a lot worse than $50/year.
>Is guaranteed to play games until 2017 when the new PS4 comes out
See above. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>342230264
when was i ever talking about just now. Ive been talking about THIRTY FIVE YEARS of gaming the entire time. (although I typed 25 in my original post - i said i was 43 so its 35)
and if you want to tell me that PC's have FINALLY gotten to a point this generation where they can play old and new games with relative ease I will tell you great, wait till the next operating system comes along and breaks everything again.
>>342226354
I always thought this thing was male
>>342222925
>get the only thing that PC misses by default
>aka a controller
>hook it up to a TV
>it becomes the superior console
>>342227307
>You're a lying console kiddie regurgitating memes you don't understand
>You're so unbelievably technologically illiterate that PC gaming is so far out of your reach you shouldn't even consider it
I was going to say "choose one" but for you, I'll let you choose both if you want.
>>342227307
>I'm 43
>cuz
Consoles hurt the industry I'm pretty sure. Everything would be far better for everyone if the only available platform was PC.
>>342230643
I'm on fucking /v/ it should tell you Im not your grandfather dumbass.
>>342230543
It's better to have some backwards compatibility than zero
>inb4 just get the original hardware
since you're so inclined to talk about time periods that are irrelevant to the current discussion, what would happen if every single one of thjs particular console got damaged beyond repair in the future?
>>342230672
not really, the competition would shift to gfx cards and, the restriction wil shift to gameworks/vulcan
>>342227307
>been playin' vidye gaems since zork and pac man
>now lemme tell you why them newfangled contraptions just don't work
>>342230464
>Thanks to aim assist
Which you can turn off in most games. And even if you couldn't, does it really matter if everyone else also has it?
>you're short sighted
Kek ok kid.
>>342230935
Yep.
Already seeing exclusivity bullshit with VR headsets.
>>342225941
Reminds me of a dude I added from/v/
>he calls himself a healslut
>ask him what MMOs he plays
>"none"
>what.jpg
>"MMOs suck they have many windows, too complex"
>ask him what FPS or MOBAs
>"FPS too easy so boring too and hard. LoL is too hard I kept missclicking"
>ask where the fuck he healsluts
>"I used to healslut on Killing Floor but game turned out too hard"
>Ask about his specs
>Alienware gaming laptop from 2015
>Ask what fucking games he fucking plays
>Danganronpa and other visual novels
What a waste of time
>>342230104
You can give up at any time, my man. Your point is moot, both "back then" and "now".
>>342230259
You have directional precision, as in, moving towards a new vector. Which PC has had before you and still does, with joysticks, gamepads and your console controllers. You have little in the way of positional precision. You can't click on something with a controller. Hell, without aim assist, you wouldn't even be able to play most FPS. Those fucking 720 quick scope kill trick shots would be impossible on a console without auto aim. I hope you are aware of that. The only reason why you can play shooters with any resemblance of accuracy on a console is a crutch.
>PS4 is only $300
>$50/y isn't that much
And then your games are $60, and you pay $20 to $40 for them on PC. And then your console cannot play the games prior and after this gen. And then you can't do anything but play those expensive games with your console. And then you cannot mod themto any reasonable extent. And so on.
But, whatever makes you sleep alright, I guess. Buyer's delusion is a strong drug, and admitting to being wrong is one of the hardest feats in contemporary society. Even when anonymous.
>>342231035
The fact that aim assist is already a testament to the inferiority of controllers in FPS. You're shortsightedness is more about how you only consider upfront costs when you mentioned that $50 a year isn't bad
>>342225045
>everyone's got 24/7 high speed internet access.
As someone who lives in the middle of fucking nowhere, this assumption pisses me off to no end. I get ~100kbps download speed on a good day for fucks sake.
>>342222925
This is an ironic post, right?
Everything you said is wrong. You didn't play on PC ever. And there are not many PC AAA exlusive games on PC because there is no one to pay developers to make games for one platform only. I can't believe that I have to deal with this many sub human filth.
>>342230672
Consoles are the industry. Take them away and watch huge amounts of quality content disappear. You don't go to the electronics section of walmart for a gaming pc you go for a console. Game stores don't exist to buy and sell mostly used PC games. You would get much less variety. Nintendo shit wouldn't even exist. MS and Sony would find no reason to get into to market to spur competition. If you like only RTS, MMO, class based multiplayer shooters. The biggest players in the industry would go do other more lucrative things. PC gaming would be a novelty. Like mobile gaming if consoles werent a dedicated gaming devices. But we're taking about toys here so I expect the childish "nuh uh" replies. PC just first generate the revenue consoles do.
>>342227307
underage please leave, this is an 18+ board
>>342222925
>And developers know that people on PC care more about graphics than the actual game which is why so few PC exclusives get made because the developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play.
Your argument contradicts the ongoing war on achieving graphical fidelity among current gen consoles.
If anything, PC is currently the only platform with a community that cares exclusively about gameplay rather than graphics.
You sir, are a liar and a genuine firestarter.
I deem this post:
Shit bait.
>>342231292
If everyones is in agreement thats its harder to aim on consoles... Doesn't that mean that's where the challenge is and PC babbies can't handle it?
>>342222925
>>342231602
Game developers would now compete among one another to make good games so people will buy them, that's how they fucking make money
>>342222981
Stefan is that you?
>>342231602
>You don't go to the electronics section of walmart for a gaming pc you go for a console.
WHO
THE FUCK
BUYS GAMES
AT WALMART
Fuck OFF, you fucking SHITTER.
Do you think that the majority of sales are done at a fucking big box store? Jesus fuck.
>>342231824
A shit input device making things harder is called "artificial difficulty", you ghetto-smart nignog.
>>342231930
Console babbies will never understand that their retard masses have as much funneled money into gaming as they have been killing it from the inside, anon.
>>342223525
I have a low grade laptop for work and college.
It does everything I need it to do, plus play morrowind.
I sorta agreed with OP for a while. I got consoles because 1) all internet connections where I live are crap.
2) I prefer physical games.
Unfortunately the over reliance that gaming has given to downloads patches and updates has just made me swap to handhelds.
>>342231824
>30fps
>"b-b-but it's cinematic"
>inferior controls
>"b-b-but it's more challenging"
>>342231903
>>342222925
Fuck,wrong image.Now you have two (you)'s
>>342231824
>clunky controlls are okay if consoles do it
>>342231821
>LMAO MORE PIXELSHIT? OMFG THESE INDIE FAGS, PKEKS HAVE NO GAMES
>p-p-PC gamers only care about graphics! REAL gamers play for gameplay and story!
>>342231602
Consoles are the kiddie toys of the industry.
>"You don't go to the electronics section of walmart for a gaming PC"
My point exactly. If it's not in Walmart it's not important, right? Not like there's plenty of places to buy PCs that specialize in electronics and tons of websites to pick and choose parts to build your own. No, you only shop at Walmart.
>Game stores don't exist to buy
Yes they do, they're online. Also try looking a little harder next time you're in Walmart, there's boxed games for Windows right there on the shelf, right where you can see and believe.
>and sell
Trading in five $60 games for $15 dollars of store credit, man we're missing out.
>muh nintendo
>muh microsoft and sony innovating with competition
You see, PCs already had innovation. While kids were playing Super Mario World on the SNES, adults were playing multiplayer deathmatch in Doom with 3D graphics.
Competition didn't innovate, it brought money-grubbing to the table. Fuck you.
>>342231261
>You have directional precision, as in, moving towards a new vector. Which PC has had before you and still does, with joysticks, gamepads and your console controllers. You have little in the way of positional precision. You can't click on something with a controller. Hell, without aim assist, you wouldn't even be able to play most FPS. Those fucking 720 quick scope kill trick shots would be impossible on a console without auto aim. I hope you are aware of that. The only reason why you can play shooters with any resemblance of accuracy on a console is a crutch.
Again, talking points that don't enhance my gameplay or my fun-having at all.
>And then your games are $60, and you pay $20 to $40 for them on PC.
PSN has sales too ya dummy, and they only do that because they don't want you assholes pirating shit and not contribute to the industry.
>And then your console cannot play the games prior and after this gen.
That's why I still have my previous console and plan on getting the next Gen console as soon as the price is low enough and it'll probably be lower than the cost of a decent PC, like the PS4 is now.
>And then you can't do anything but play those expensive games with your console. And then you cannot mod them to any reasonable extent. And so on.
I buy video games because I like playing video games, not because of mods.
>>342232035
>A shit input device making things harder is called "artificial difficulty", you ghetto-smart nignog.
So baseball should use bigger bats? Or for you foreigners...soccer should use wider nets?
Who decides baseline difficulty. You say that controllers make "artificial difficulty" I say mouses make "babby mode".
>>342232361
bubsy 3d was harder than dark souls
I'll never play a RTS or FPS on console.
For everything else (and even VNs) consoles feel more comfortable, you just sit down in your couch, take the controller and play.
>>342231292
$50/year isn't bad considering the hundreds you'll probably spend upgrading /fixing your PC throughout its life cycle, not to mention its initial cost.
>>342232451
Those aren't comparable costs. You should be comparing upgrading your PC to upgrading your console, like you will with the scorpio, neo, scorpio 2 and neoneo
There are still steamdrones that play darksouls and sidescrollers with keyboard
>>342232310
>You can't click on something with a controller. Hell, without aim assist, you wouldn't even be able to play most FPS. Those fucking 720 quick scope kill trick shots would be impossible on a console without auto aim. I hope you are aware of that. The only reason why you can play shooters with any resemblance of accuracy on a console is a crutch.
Player A has a mouse where he can just click where he wants.
Player B has a controller and has to actually aim.
Somehow in your retarded logic, Player B has a crutch.
>wasting hundreds of dollars for more fps
This is literally no justification for this.
>>342232572
and?
>>342232451
Assuming you only buy the highest end gfx cards, a newly built PC will last you an entire console generation. Everything else only rarely needs to be upgraded. You're so hilariousl misinfomed
>>342232601
Should have been directed at >>342231261 not the reply to him.
>>342232257
What?
You're proving my point, sir. Undertale, Shovel Knight and Doom cared only about gameplay and to times a bit of story.
Indie games are not something that should be praised as it does, but it is a new way of discovering and finding new and interesting games.
>>342222925
>literally 175+ replies to this memebait
why /v/?
ive been a pc gamer my entire life and despite my brief flirtation with gen 7 and 8 i sold my xboner and only kept my x360 and ps3
This generation was a fucking flop so hard the xboner got absorbed into windows 10 barely 3 years into its lifespan and the ps4 was a underpowered turd that got replaced by the ps5 neo
WHY microshit are bothering with a new xbox is beyond me.
NX and Wii U are a fart in the wind.
Mobiles, pc's andreal lifewon
>>342232601
it's still aiming if I have to move my mouse to an exact location. aim-assist is a crutch.The fact that it exists isman acknowledgement to the inferiority of a joystick for aiming
>>342232751
I think you're arguing with an actual child that doesn't know what aim assist isit's summer break
>>342232737
Because maybe, just maybe, this OP may be sincere.
Whether or not it may be a joke, we have to stand our ground for this nonsensical madness.
>>342222925
Media just doesn't feel right on PC.
Macs are made by a company who cares about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
PCs are just for work and internet.
And developers know that people on PC care more about specs than the actual art which is why so few PC APPs get made because the developers don't like to focus on specs over art.
>>342232565
It's not the same, because you can still play games on the PS4 even if the PS4K also exists. It won't not work just because you have old parts like on a PC.
>>342222925
Just play what you enjoy playing. Games are meant to cause enjoyment. If you dont enjoy playing games on PC dont play games on PC. If you dont enjoy games on console, dont play games on console. Some people literally cant play sub 30 fps without getting headaches or have immersion broken from bad graphics.
Just dont blindly defend multi billion dollar companies because your choice is "right" you autismo.
>>342232659
Ayy limão. No card can play things for 7 years straight. Take the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti, sold at fucking $700 in 2013 (PS4 costed what, $450 or 500?), it won't be playing games on ultra/high by the end of this generation.
>>342233026
ultra/high for PCs is literally unobtainable for consoles
>>342232983
Translation
>Macs are made for idiots
Thanks
>>342232951
Meh its /v/ i dont know if anyone is sincere here
>>342232601
Lemme rephrase that for you, so you understand.
Player A has to actually aim at the target.
Player B moves an aiming indicator in the rough neighborhood of the target and a piece of software does the actual aiming for him.
Somehow, in your retarded logic, Player B does not have a crutch.
>>342232608
Except anyone who has actually played 100+ fps, 1440p, ultra graphical presets etc realises how gigacucked and experience 30fps 900p is.
Shit even 1080p 60fps on mid-high makes it impossible to go back to consoles.
>>342222925
Grand strategy, TBS, simulation and spreadsheet games are on PC.
>>342233026
Yes but the ps4 cant pay ultra/high on games released in the first year of the generation.
>>342223528
how do you support your keyboard and mouse
>>342233026
Because to you, a consolefag, only one graphics setting exists
>>342233026
No worries, though, the next gen XBone will have a Geforce 760 equivalent graphics card. Microsoft is already lauding it as Christ's second coming for the power of console gaming. :^)
>>342233176
Option A: Use a controller for couch gaming. Works fine.
Option B: Put keyboard in lap. Put mousepad on pillow/book.
>>342233148
master race who only plays at 60fps+
most games run at 120fps i wish i had a 144hz freesync screen but im a poorfag
>>342233173
Sure, but if you build a $1350 PC in 2013 you spend the same ammount of money of 3 PS4's. By that price I would want to play games on Ultra for several years, while the PS4 will be playing them on Medium settings. By the end I'll not be seeing the money I spent on it when I compare it to the same game being played on a PS4.
It is fine if you want to build an awesome PC, but don't trick other into thinking that it will be miles better than a console for the whole generation, specially when you consider the money envolved.
>>342233026
It will still play games on a higher graphical preset with a higher FPS than those consoles will.
Consoles have the same graphical power of a fucking R7 260. Optimisation and age not going to suddenly make it play games better than high end GPU from the same period.
The only reason a PC gamer would upgrade is because they've been spoiled by maxing everything on high resolutions.
>developers don't like to focus on graphics over game play
I know the whole post is bait, but this is one hilarious notion when you consider the AAA console games space
>>342232451
Spent 600 Euro on a pc four years ago. Still plays everything at 1080p at 60fps. Spent zero bux on upgrades. So if I bought a PS 4 on release for 400 euros and paid 200 bux for onkine service. I spent the same amount of money.
Bit all my games are cheaper. My resolution and framerate is always higher and I can use superior keyboard and mouse for appropriate genres.
Pretty shit argument senpai
>>342233452
im still using my budget gaming build from 2013 it works great just chucked a new 390x in it a couple of months ago
consolefags have to spend $500 every 3-4 years on new hardware these days anyway might as well join the master race
that said when the ps5 comes out and the ps4 neo or whatever the fuck its called matures in a year or two ill get itcheap
>>342233452
actually, it is comparable because they'll look exactly the same, only with a higher framerate
>>342233452
you don't seem to understand just how gimped consoles are
>>342233527
You people tend to forget that you spend 3x more. Yes, it better be fucking better than a console by the ammount of money I invested on it. The question is how much better it will be by the end of the generation.
>>342233572
its even more hilarious because if you think about it the majority of xbox one and ps4 games can barely get to 1080p 30fps without looking like complete crap or keeping the details up and running at memes like 25fps 900p
>>342233148
>muh specs!!!!!!!
Cringe.
>>342233696
>3x more
upfront. stop being short sighted
>>342232701
was agreeing with you brah
>>342232306
>>342232035
You idiots act like everyone is you and these aren't toys were talking about. You say this consolekiddie shit but your doing the exact same thing on a device that's just not purpose built for it. Normies buy consoles which is where AAA development is focused. You literal man children too blind to see that its just TOYS were talking about here, think its an actual grown up hobby. Just because your toy is a little shinier doesn't make it not a toy. PC fags have their GPU wars just like the console fanboyism you think you're above. But its either AMD or Nvidia releasing upgrades every 2 or 3 years. But now you can buy an updated console in the same timeframe and suddenly my shits obsolete? Get over yourselves PCfats it's a toy not a hobby.
>>342233643
Do they? Generations are much longer now.
>>342233094
>>342233794
Oh shit, sorry brahmin.
Why does what system people play games on matter? The only time if would ever come close to mattering is for multiplayer games so you can play with friends. It's like if people fighting over a mobile game being played on a Samsung phone instead of a Motorola phone.
I also don't understand why people cheer when a system loses an exclusive. Most of the time the original system has had the game for at least a year already, they beat it 100 times and are tired of it. And if a PS4 or Xbone exclusive eventually comes to PC, it's not like it's being taken away from PS players and now they have to buy a PC just to play it again.
People arguing over what device they play games on always just looks like little kids kicking sand in each other's faces yelling about who would win in a deathmatch between Batman and Superman.
>>342222925
>buy babbys first pc at 16
>hl2 was pure insanity how good it was
>started playing WoW
>slowly regressed away from consoles
>now play exclusively pc except for exclusives
It feels good man. Thank you Half Life 2 for showing me what it meant to be PC.
>>342233803
>suddenly my shits obsolete?
>>342233527 yes
>>342233768
Gnarly counterpoint dude!
>>342233803
It's a toy and not a hobby because of consolefags like yourself. Faggots who throw a fit when faced with the realization that supporting console development despite how much Sony and Microsoft, two gigantic fucking companies who just have gaming DEPARTMENTS, have fucked you in the ass over and over. You sit there and you take it, and you insult the people who don't.
>>342233696
>implying a good gpu doesnt last a generation
if you get a 390x or 480 RIGHT NOW it will last you at least another 3-5 years on medium-high in even the most demanding games well into 2020s
This whole 'waa u have to upgrade every year' is a complete lie
>>342233830
Then why is the PS4 getting a 'Neo' and the xboner s getting a 'more powerful version next year?!
>>342233904
?
okay brahmin
>>342233917
personally i dont give a fuck because last gen taught me to wait until the end of a gen to snap up games quick.
so 2019 when this gen falls on its face again and gen 9 comes out with ARM or x86 meme apu's or whatever cheap crap china cooks up ill be all for it but ill finish gen 8 first
>>342233917
Because it's a bunch of (somewhat)adult men talking about toys but pretending they are talking about something grown up.
>tfw I bulit my new PC from the ground up for under $1000 and the only thing I'll need to do sometime in the next 5-6 years is upgrade my GPU (960 from my old build)
>>342233970
You PC brah?
>>342233970
oldfags like us knew what was up.wheres hl3
>>342233452
>>342233026
PC
>have the freedom and choice to spend more money on shit to get certain results, if you want to.
Console
>spend all day doing mental gymnastics and rationalizing how it's actually better to just not have any freedom or choices at all
>>342234096
How about you stop being mad that you've helped to ruin the industry?
PC gaming has always been adult. E-sports, the very first multiplayer, the first violent games, autistic basement dwellers who could figure out how to work a computer back when they were new had actual passion. You don't, you just want it to be a toy.
>>342234108
i used to reuse my gpu's but now i just upgrade them every time i do a new system.
>>342233583
I bought a $500 PC and have had nothing but problems with it and I've sunk nearly $1000 in it just dealing with troubleshoot issues.
It's one thing to give an anecdote, but don't try to present it as a fact that applies to everyone.
>>342234365
>$500 pc
theres your problem
Should have just saved up $1500 and not cheaped out
>>342234042
100+ fps and 1440p doesn't improve gameplay. You just wasted a lot of money to make something look shinier.
>>342223652
>Simply enjoying games
... It never occurred to me.
>>342234440
Or just spend $300 on a PS4 that's guaranteed to work out of the box.
>>342233768
>Enjoying higher quality everything
>Not settling for dogshit
SOMEONE SCREENCAP THIS NERD FOR /R/CRINGE, LMAO
You're the same faggot who's going to be chanting "THE PC MEME IS DEAD" once you finally see 60fps on your $500 PS"4k"
I want to get a sw y naked lapdance from yolandi
>>342234065
No it's a toy because it's a toy. A game, mindless fun, unless it's a Sony exclusive movie. When you were a kid did you think you were doing something grown up on your SNES or whatever you grew up on? You think you parents bought for any other reason to occupy your time so the could lock their door and fuck? Its a toy friend not saying its just for children anymore, that's obvious but nobody's taking this "hobby" serious except people who play for real money in large tournaments. And even then who wins those things? A fucking 14year old COD GOD.
>>342234365
Probably bought garbage-quality parts, or you're just retarded and did shit like improperly seat your heatsink to your CPU
>20C CPU idle temps
Feels good man
>Build $1000 PC
>Play multiplats
This is what I don't understand, unless you only play western shit, I can kinda see how PC gaming would be better deal overall but fuck me, the average multiplat isn't worth that kind of money, they quality of AAA multiplats is garbage right now. I do understand wanting to play shooters and certain genres with kb and mouse but still.
There hasn't been a single game worth building a PC for in years meanwhile you miss out on the more better quality AAA's worth half a shit that're console first party games to peruse hardware superiority. If those games were on PC I'd understand, but they're not.
>>342222925
>Consoles are made by companies who care about there fans and design hardware to make them happy.
That is THE MOST UNTRUE THING EVER SPEWED OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH.
>>342234747
I'd suggest you go back.
>I want better stuff and I don't like you for promoting worse stuff
versus
>I want worse stuff and I don't like you for promoting better stuff
pretty easy choice to me
>b-but I'm too dumb+lazy to put LEGO together and click 'install' then 'play'!
then keep crying
Why don't people ever put online price into a console's overall cost when comparing to PC That's $50 a year over something like 5 years, in addition to the fact that console games don't go on sale as often
New releases on PC people can easily get for at least $45 usually with a regular $60 game, and a lot of times even lower
>>342234312
>adult
>esports
>violent games
Only kids think playing a violent game makes you mature and esports are killing gaming by making everything a copycat of something popular to try to rake in money
>>342234838
I'm fucking ready for high quality Wii U emulation within the next 8 months
I believe
>>342234365
I am sorry that your own inability to build a PC hasn't led you to the conclusion that you either need to git gud (also known as, use google) or buy a premade.
If your entire argument is "buildan a computar is hard, u guise", you need to seriously reconsider the strength of your debate position.
Also, for those who posted previously that console games go on sale: I got news for you. PC pays $20 to $40 on release. Not on sale. When sales come, we pay even less.
The only games I enjoy on pc are competitive shooters
Which I never play
>>342234520
$100 headphones don't make the songs better, comfortable seats don't make the car handle better, colour television doesn't improve the plot.
But people are still willing to pay more because anything less than these standards will detract from THEIR experience.
>>342231203
>pic related has 3 felonies
LOL OKAY
>>342234815
yeah, nobody takes games seriously. not modders who put hours of work into making things for games they love, not people who pay out of pocket to host servers, not people who run guilds, make custom maps, none of that.
you have no fucking clue.
>>342234989
I think it was mentioned at your expense, friend.
>>342235358
he's probably a kid who hasn't even enjoyed the simple pleasures of a lan party
>>342235389
Not likely.
>>342235089
Because it's an optional cost, something you don't need to pay for when you don't use and largely uneeded when the bulk of console games are single player experiences. None of the games shown at Sony's most recent E3 for example need the online sub
Even IF I were to pay for it I am aware that cash gets funneled back into game development in first party games, so in a sense everyone within the ecosystem is rewarded by those who choose to support the company and the result is shit like Bloodborne, Horizon Zero Dawn, Kojimas game and so on. It's a pretty good set up.
>>342235227
>PC pays $20 to $40 on release. Not on sale. When sales come, we pay even less.
You do realize this is why publishers treat PC like a secondary platform and give exclusive games to consoles, right?
>>342235635
upgrades are an optional cost as well
>>342235232
Y'know, consoles are great for games that require directional inputs. Like, Beat'em Ups. Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Bloody Roar, and all the others, are absolute titties without a controllers.
But if you like RTS, FPS, and other games that require high APM and precision inputs, consoles just don't work out. They are limited because of how they are designed. Their ease of use comes at a price.
I had an Xbone and a Praystation. I played Halo, Beat'em Ups, and Resident Evil. In the shooters, I missed the precision a lot. Auto aim cheapened the experience for me. But for punching a werewolf in the face, I would rather have a controller. Nowadays, with Beat'em Ups being more and more multiplat, and controllers working with computers out of the box, I feel like a console has little to offer for me, but, at the same time, a lot of limitations that detract from my enjoyment.
>>342235358
>tfw ran server
>tfw made mods
>tfw wrote guides
>tfw gave tutorials
>tfw ran guild
>tfw made maps
me IRL
