Will /v/ be >buying sumo?
I know a lot of people here have given up on Pokemon, but is this the gen that you hop back in?
>>342204734
>sumo
>>342204734
>>buying sumo
I'll be getting it on release. I don't think I'll have it in me to dig deep into the postgame and online like I did for XY, though. I burned out so hard on that I still haven't recovered.
Day 1 purchase. Just got back into Pokemon last gen and am pretty hype.
>>342204734
Yup. Haven't missed a gen yet.
>>342204734
I'll buy it, play it once and never touch it again just like XY desu. Either the series is dying or I'm just growing out of this, but XY was nothing compared to gen V. Huge disappointment.
>buy
>>342204734
>su/mo
>buy, let alone play
No.
>actually asking /v/ about Pokemon
You're a funny guy, OP. /v/ is full of mouthbreathing retards who know as much about Pokemon as they know about bra shopping.
I'll be picking up Moon and I'm sure it will be fantastic.
>>342205340
>those sick elite four rooms/intros
>those terrible elite four battles
Made the lack of a battle frontier really hurtin'. I enjoyed the region and the new pokemon designs were mostly decent but the plot was eh and the game was just piss easy. Pokemon needs to add a hard mode. At a bare minimum up the levels/stats, and if you're feeling spicy change movelists/add pokemon to trainer rosters. It doesn't seem like it would take that much effort.
>>342205808
also wanted to mention there was no "legendary pokemon quest" to undertake like regiice/rock/steel, latias, moltres etc. and that's lame. Those elemental dudes were easy to acquire.
>>342204734
Depends on how much endgame content these games actually have (e.g. frontier). The actual single player campaign is always a mindless romp that's only enjoyable because catching Pokemon is so addicting on its own, but I really wish they would try to challenge the player for once.
>>342205808
Siebold was pretty good, in that his team could actually hurt you. Bu yeah, it was a step down from BW1 and 2 where they did the same gimmick.
At least ORAS showed an improvement. Everything we've seen in SuMo seems to indicate quality.
>>342206530
If you haven't already, try accepting that this is a game for children and create your own difficulty by putting harsh restrictions on yourself.
Turn off Exp Share, never grind. Change the battle mode from Shift to Set. Never use healing items in battle. That's all it took to make ORAS fun for me.
>>342206916
Nuzlocke runs are a fun challenge imo, but yeah, I never understood people who bitched about difficulty yet played on Shift.
Pokemon has remained stagnant and stale but I will buy it anyway because no one ever leaves this ride.
>>342204734
Sun/Moon seems to be taking the potential wasted by X/Y and giving us the 3D Pokemon game the series truly deserves.Of course it won't be perfect until the 3DS' successor
>>342204734
Gen 6 was the best gen so far so I see no reason to stop the ride.
Since D/P Pokemon has only been good for the porn.
>>342207215
You want a challenge? Nuzlocke runs with only self destruct moves.
>>342207215
Maybe if NPCs actually switched fucking pokemon ever...
>>342207661
They do.
>>342207215
Shift mode was a mistake to have in the game from the start. It skews the battle overwhelmingly in the player's favor and breaks the rules for no good reason. But now it's been the default for so long that everybody is used to it.
>sumo
Why yes, I love sweating fat japaneses dudes
I think I'll get back into the series with sun/moon. Played the fuck out of gens 1-3 (3 especially) and played a little of 4 but nothing since then. Friends and I recently all modded our 3DSs so we have no excuse not to give it a try, unlike past gens where we'd all have to buy it for it to be worth it.
>>342207768
>tfw I turn shift mode off not because I wanted more difficulty but because I didn't want the prompt to switch pokemon constantly coming up and wasting my time
>>342204734
>gen that you hop back in?
Never left. That being said I probably won't play it much if they don't fix injecting and shit. My autism won't let me grind for shinies when I know that they can be so easily hacked in but I really want something mindless to do during lectures.
>tfw you enjoy odd-numbered generations more than even numbered generations
>not sure if Sun/Moon will break the pattern
>>342208250
>something to do during lectures
It's called making friends, kouhai
>>342207661
Are you fucking high? Do you understand what Set does? You don't get to switch after KOing pokemon you doofus, and yes, trainers do switch on you.
>>342208284
>enjoy odds over even
>when 2 and 4 are clearly the upgrade version of their respective prequels
I took a break after x&y because I didn't enjoy it that much, only recently played omega ruby and I'm pretty hype now
>>342204734
>sumo
Go and please stay gone
>>342204734
I hopped back in with X and Y, skipped black and white before that, thought it was ok
sun and moon are probably gonna be ok too, aside from the awful pokemon designs so far, but whatever, would definitely play them, but I'm not gonna buy them
will wait til I can play them somewhere for free whether that means waiting for my library to get them, or some other way
>>342208410
I don't need any more friends though. I can't relate to the normies in my gen ed classes nor the redditors in my major classes anyhow
>>342204734
>>342206894
Why are you trying to push this shitty meme on /v/?
Fuck off back to /vp/.
After how garbage X/Y and OR/AS were, I'm pirating S/M.
>>342208707
I don't get this meme
>>342208449
That's the funny thing about it.
4 actually perfected the formula but the pacing was horrible and 2 had a shitty level curve, not that Gen V's EXP Scaling system was much better. Something about 1, 3 and 5 kept me invested whereas I might enjoy 2, 4 and 6 the first time I pick it up and then drag myself to finish up and do postgame material.
>>342205808
>Pokemon needs to add a hard mode
And not lock it behind someone else completing the game
>>342208707
Yet you still bought BW? That's kind of hypocritical.
>>342208707
Dump all the trainer models if you can.I wanna do fetish stuff to them.
>>342208819
What's not to get? Gen VI was horrible on all aspects.
>>342208819
Gen VI was literally abandoned and left unfinished and incomplete.
>>342207858
It's a lot more than sweaty Japanese men, fast exciting technique heavy matches that are easy to understand even for beginners
It's a great sport
>>342208548
Stop being autismo and leave /v/ behind.
>>342204734
>Buy sun
>Play as girl
>Have fun
>>342208872
>Yet you still bought BW? That's kind of hypocritical.
Didn't buy B/W. Pirated them and B2/W2. I had to buy X/Y because 3DS piracy at the time was locked behind $80 flash carts.
Pokemon hasn't been good since HG/SS. Game Freak isn't getting another penny of my money unless they can make Pokemon great again.
>>342209267
>HGSS
>good
Eh. I mean, if polishing up a turd and making it flashier is enough to make it good and likeable, that's okay.
>>342208820
But 1 is extremely barebones and 3 is the second worst in the series. 6 is definitely terrible though.
>>342209221
damn hakuho you savage
>>342209267
>Pokemon hasn't been good since HG/SS
BW2>HG/SS you nostalgiafag
>>342209771
>gen IV
>nostalgiafag
?
>>342209771
B2/W2 suck dick. All it has going for it is MUH POSTGAME, which is only interesting to tourneyfags.
>>342209492
Innovation is fine, but setting, music and monster choices are also part of the experience.
Gen III and Gen V gave the ghost type a lot of love, which isn't something I can say about 1 and 2 and a most of IV's monsters that weren't Starters, Legendaries, Pseudos or evolutions of past game Pokemon weren't much to speak of (there were exceptions like Drifblim, Vespiquen and Carnivine, of course).
Gen VI was just underwhelming, caught between sticking to the old style and utilizing 3D. S/M made the right choice going full 3D.
>>342210090
>but setting, music
II were god-tier with these, III not so much.
At least you like V.
>>342210218
>II were god-tier with these
I love Olivine City. I don't love it enough to be recycled in another town.
>>342209923
HG/SS is a revamped G/S which retards think is the best Pokemon game
>>342210030
> All it has going for it is MUH POSTGAME, which is only interesting to tourneyfags.
lol yeah I hate games that have tons of content. All HG/SS has going for it is the postgame, too.
I never understood the retards who played pokemon and then complained about competitive features or endgame content.
>>342210498
>I never understood the retards who played pokemon and then complained about competitive features or endgame content.
I play Pokemon for the campaign. If it has a shit campaign, it's a shit Pokemon game. Once I beat the Elite Four, I'm done with the game. B2/W2 has a shit campaign.
Postgame is fine, B2/W2's problem is that it relies entirely on fucking postgame and has dick for a campaign.
>>342204734
If I hear it's challenging, I'll buy it day one. If it's as ridiculously easy as X and Y, I'm definitely passing.
>>342210646
And yet you love HG/Ss, which has the shittiest campaign aside from D/P? Or do you include Kanto because Johto is so lackluster?
Casual pokemon fans like you are bizarre.
>>342204734
X/Y was shit and this looks like it could be worst.
All the area shown so far are plain and boring.
Same engine as X/Y meaning I'm already 80% bored of the game with the same models/animations.
I doubt they will add any new game mechanics that will bring me back.
Yes, though I'm hoping they bring back Challenge mode difficulty option without unlocking requirments this time
>>342211248
>All the area shown so far are plain and boring.
I think you're confusing withheld information for the entire game's experience. It's only natural to think that, of course but maybe wait things out a bit before judging too soon.
>>342210646
>I play Pokemon for the campaign. If it has a shit campaign, it's a shit Pokemon game. Once I beat the Elite Four, I'm done with the game
Play other games then, because you are missing core aspects of Pokemon
>>342204734
Pirate for sure
>>342210646
So do you just ignore Kanto or are you a hypocrite?
>>342211387
This. The rest of the fandom and I tend to disagree about what would make Pokemon better, but "having a higher difficulty for those of us who have been playing for nearly two decades available from the start" is one of the few things where I'd agree with the general consensus. Sure, the simplest method of beating Cynthia back in Sinnoh, and to a slightly lesser extent Ghetsis in B/W, was a matter of "grind cash, then buy ALL the Revives until their signature pseudo-legendary is down to no PP and killing itself with Struggle", but that's a small price to pay for feeling like I accomplished something once the credits roll and the DS is off. However, kids aren't masochists, they aren't experienced enough to get past these kinds of challenges, they've never really had great attention spans, and if you try to challenge them in a game now they'll look for a "buy levels with your parents' money" button and quit when they fail to find it. So having different difficulty levels, available from the start so that people who have been playing since Hoenn or earlier don't have to be bored by an extremely easy game on their way to a more challenging and thus more rewarding experience, is a solution to that problem.
>>342204734
>sumo
masterwork bait or youre an actual autist, pick one
>>342204734
That depends, will it be easy drivel or will there be a post game?
digimon is better
>>342212531
Ghetsis was fucking great. All the butthurt on /v/ about his Hydreigon was awesome. We haven't really had something like that since.
>>342207768
Then theres people like me who forgot it existed. Damn, woulda been nice for my last playthrough.
>>342212592
Not op but what is wrong with sumo? How in the fuck is it bait or autisim in anyway you retard
>>342204734
People still play Pokemon? I didn't think kids even bought them anymore.
>>342212895
>ORAS
>Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire
Two words, two letters like all the remakes(FRGL, HGSS)
>SM
>Sun Moon
One word, one letter like all the mainline games.
SuMo is stupid not only because it sounds stupid, but also because it ignores for no real reasons the conventions we( the pokemon community in general not only 4chan), always used
>>342213326
>One word, one letter
Explain D/P/Pl then.
>>342213326
I've seen some people push SuMo because they want to avoid the games becoming known as "Pokemon S and M" when spoken of aloud.
>>342213054
x and y really redeemed the franchise
pretty much all the x/y pokes are great
>>342213783
>oppenent gives you money when you beat them
>when you lose a battle, you lose your money and black out
Doujins when
Yes I will
I am current playing XY and its not fun at all
SM already looks good with better 3D and better character models
Hope they dont fuck with the campaing again
>sumo
I will pirate it first. XY and ORAS were disappointing and so far I'm not liking SM at all.
>>342213628
Diamond
Pearl
PlaTinum
We use DPPt( DPPl is almost never used) to distinguish Pearl from Platinum, but I've seen people use DPP and no one complained because it still respect the usual pattern
>>342213628
Same-generation letter reuse would make it confusing in that specific case. It doesn't apply across generations: despite the existence of a Y, we haven't started to call the Gen1 games R/B/Yl or something. And it's usually D/P/Pt.
I hated Ruby/Sapphire remake and replaying gen 1 blew my mind at how badly its held up. Althought I loved it as a child, i also enjoyed X/Y
I'll be picking up two copies day one regardless for me and my gf
>>342212531
>>342212531
>available from the start so that people who have been playing since Hoenn or earlier don't have to be bored by an extremely easy game on their way to a more challenging and thus more rewarding experience
Having to level up more because the levels are artificially inflated isn't rewarding or challenging, it's boring.
>tfw soon serena will leave ash in the anime because Gen VII
>>342214325
But what if, and I might be crazy for suggesting this... The levels aren't the only thing that goes up in Challenge Mode, and enemy AI and movesets are significantly upgraded too?
>>342214362
Thank God for that
>>342214325
The whole point of a harder Pokemon game would be to utilize all of the tools available to you such as abilities, status, and buffs in order to win. Not grinding and mindlessly spamming your strongest attack.
>>342208820
Gen 5's exp scaling was literally perfect anon and I fucking hate that Game Freak decided to scrap it in gen 6. And they also had the gall to no longer split exp gains, but instead now every participant gets the same amount which is why you can accidentally overlevel even without the Exp Share.
>>342214416
AI and movesets can't do anything if i oneshot them or if my mon is 20 levels superior.
>>342214480
That could never be possible because i can just grind and mindlessly spam my strongest attack because nothing stops me from doing so. Or just trade a strong Pokemon. Or hell even use a strong Pokemon. Nothing stops me from doing so.
Why people don't understand that mainline Pokemon has SEVERAL factors that prevent the game from ever being challenging is beyond me.
The only way a Pokemon game can be hard is if:
-no items(held items are okay though)
-no trades
-no leveling
-Pokemon levels are equal
Which is why Stadium-type games are the only time Pokemon will be difficult, because the odds aren't in anyone's favor and both sides have the same restrictions. Or why Colosseum and Gale of Darkness were more difficult: because grinding was unoptimal(if even impossible) and the tools you were given were shit and there was no trading until the end of the game, so you had to deal with what you had.
Even the so-highly praised difficult hacks become easy after a while despite being have been messled with by the players themselves.
Pokemon is different from other RPGs for a variety of reasons.
>>342204734
I'm not going to buy it until Battle Frontier or something similar returns.
>>342212531
>grind cash, then buy ALL the Revives until their signature pseudo-legendary is down to no PP and killing itself with Struggle
I prefer the strategy of "burn/paralyze their ass and watch them melt in the face of whatever low-level shitter you taught Ice Beam to"
>>342214948
Who the hell trades trades himself a strong pokemon during the story?
Also improving AI, moveset and Levels is the correct way to increase the difficulty in pokemon. Grinding would be a strategy,but certainy not the only one, so I don't understand how can you say that pokemon can't be challenging
>>342214948
It's possible to just grind and spam your strongest attack in the vast majority of RPGs with non-scaling leveling. No, it's not fun to do that. Grinding not being fun should be enough of an incentive to utilize the tools available to you instead of resorting to grinding just because you can.
Grinding is a fail-safe so younger people and people not good at the game can clear it. It should not be your go-to tactic as an experienced video game player.
I don't know why the heck you'd even bring up trading. Trading in a strong Pokemon is willingly and knowingly destroying the balance of your own game and nobody talking about difficulty will be considering somebody borrowing his friend's level 100 Mewtwo.
The hacks BlazeBlack and VoltWhite without giving up and grinding are absolutely challenging and require the player to have knowledge of the game.
>>342214362
Next waifu better have ZR as well
