this comes out in a week
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-considering-star-ocean-5-pc-port
I'll wait.
>>342202349
>considering
because ports of jap games are so stable
>>342202349
Yay more shitposting fuel for PC fats
I haven't heard an importer saying anything nice about this game besides "it's a bit above SO4".
That ain't much of a recommendation.
Am I the only one thinking the 7-member party in real-time might become a bit of an issue?
Like, in a turn-based or even pause-based game I can deal with 7 party members, but expecting these 7 AI's to somehow hold my team together feels a bit much to ask.
>>342202349
This. Now that it might come to PC, I'm gonna hold off buying a PS4 until Persona 5 instead. If the PC version hasn't been officially announced by then, I'll just get it on PS4.
>>342202286
WIth that image, I'm coming before that
>>342202519
Nips are renowned for shit taste though. It might still be shit but it's worth waiting for some decent western reviewers to tear it apart first before deciding to buy.
>>342203104
It'll probably end up in the high 70s low 80s range more than likely
>>342203104
>decent western reviewers
That's a good joke.Just use Youtube footage and /v/ anecdotes that aren't shitposting to decide.
>>342202286
That's not the only thing which will come out, if you know what I mean.
>>342202286
>people actually find this thing attractive
I don't even
>>342202519
I feel like I'm the only person that enjoyed SO4. The story was awful but that's true of most JRPGs. It was still a fun game.
>>342203519
It's okay to be a homosexual in this day and age, anon.
well guess ill make a threat with bait next time
>>342204850
The last SO games was mediocrity incarnate m8. No one's going to care next thread either.
>>342203519
Everything but the face
>>342202349
Neat, if this, Nier, and FFXV come out for PC I will have essentially 0 reason to consider purchasing a PS4. Just bloodborne and I can live without that. As it is, those few games have to be padded out with "eh .. maybe" shit like SAO just to have enough games to warrant the price of the console.
Only reason to have a PS4 is JRPG's and if they get PC ports.. then no reason.
>>342203519
>you guys sure are strange because
>big tits and big asses are bad
>t. homo
>>342202349
Allow me to phrase this the way you're used to.
>>342206719
her face and hair are pretty ugly tbqh fampai, that and she has a tail.
Star Ocean just has bad art for its character models and faces, it was shit in 4 too, plastic uncanny valley doll looking faces.
>>342207069
I know most of the faces are crap,but she's the most "ok" looking from the bunch and has huge tits.
>>342206943
The reason why bloodborne is NEVER EVER is because Sony actually had something to do with the production of that game, Santa Monica Studio I believe was involved right?
No such thing with Star Ocean or Nier. The reason they're currently PS4 exclusive is because Xbox One market in Japan is trash and so is the PC market in Japan. Since these are JRPG's they won't appeal to dudebro xbone owners in the US and EU either.
But there IS a market for JRPG's on PC in the west, and Japanese Developers are just now starting to figure that out. Western sales of JRPG's aren't the best, period, but if you're going to make the investment to localize one, you might as well make a PC port, and double your sales in the west.
in Japan sometimes they make JP only PS3 versions too, because the PS4 isn't doing quite as welll in Japan as it is in the west.
It's all about available market for the games, not any particular brand loyalty.
>>342207460
>PCfats damage control
>>342207460
>pc ports
>doubling sales
Lel.
Dragon Quest Heroes hasn't even broken 50k on PC
>>342207326
Nier and Tales have better looking waifu material.
fiore does have great tits though and a nice outfit, I'll give them that.
>>342207542
>Dragon Quest Heroes
That's because Dragon Quest Heroes is a shit Dynasty Warriors clone capitalizing on a series the west has never played.
>>342206541
>being so poor you couldnt afford Bloodborne
I own a gaming PC and a PS4 but you're joking if you think Persona 5 is a reason to own it when PC hasn't got a game worth building a PC for in the last 7 years.
What games do you even play in the mean time? Gundam shits on SOA and even SOA is a better arpg than any PC game for that matter.
>>342207627
>a series the west has never played
Dude every mainline Dragon Quest game has been brought west other than the MMO
>>342207542
Tales of Zestiria literally doubled the sales in the west because they made a PC port. I mean the sales figures aren't good either way, I think 150k for the PS4 version and the same for the PC version in the US.
i'm a pc gamer and if this comes to pc i won't play it
but i am going to fucking murder my dick to all the smut people draw of that titty witch
>>342207917
That's because everyone with a PS4 knew it was shjit and stayed away from it.
PC fats only bought Zestria because they thought they'd get a good version of Symphonia.
Funny how that worked out.
>>342207917
People bought Zestiria in general? I'm sorry to hear that annon.
>>342207880
Yes, and how have they sold? The most popular one sold, what, half a million copies in the states?
Yeah no one cares.
>>342207775
I'm not going to blow $350 on a machine to play one $60 game.
My rule is spend more money on games (that aren't available on PC) than the console to play them on or it's not worth it.
>>342202286
It's like she's wearing nothing at all.
It looks fucking stupid.
>>342208067
Quality meme
>>342208017
>I speak on behalf of all PS4 owners
>I speak on behalf of all PC owners
>>342208017
It wasn't great but it was better than trash like Abyss, Graces, and Symphonia 2.
>>342203535
I definitely enjoyed it, just not as much as 2 or 3.
The best part SO4 right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnD-o5FI4zo
Star Ocean 5 is going to fuck this masterpiece up by adding a fucking electric guitar to the mix.
>>342208067
>My rule is spend more money on games (that aren't available on PC)
While that's pretty smart, replace PC with PS4 and I don't think it's even possible to name any relevant PC games that justify the costs of building one in the current climate
>>342208017
>>342208036
Zestiria was fun. It was a mediocre tales game but it was still a tales game that I didn't have to buy a console for, and Berseria is coming out for PC as well and after patches and ToSfix, I got the definitive version of Symphonia for my purchase.
Totally worth the $50 for 2 games I spent about 100 hours on each. Yes, I know I take too long and you beat it in 40 hours or whatever, I don't rush I have fun.
>>342208234
I can give you Abyss and Symphonia 2. Graces had good gameplay but a story that made suicide look like a better option. Zestria failed on both gameplay and story. This is without factoring the camera.
>>342208397
SO games should just have the option to pick between "metal" variants and "orchestral" variants of their songs.
This weird mix they've been going with since SO3 is just ear-rape.
I heard it was garbage.
>>342208545
I'd rather play it and decide for myself, not listen to what nips have to say.
>>342208132
>It is a meme not to pay 410$ for a 60$ game
No wonder sonybabies are the most hated fanbase in polls.
>>342208017
Zestria is like DmC/Neptunia all over again, console players shit on it and then PCucks praise it as the second coming of Jesus because they're THAT starved for games.
>>342208676
Your one game meme gets pretty old anon.
>>342208690
>PC
>starved for games
There are 17k games out for the PC. That's more than every console in history combined.Twice.
>>342208448
I use my PC for so much more than gaming though.
When it comes down to it, I'm going to need a PC, no ifs, ands, or buts, for work, for continuing education for my job, for social/keeping up with people, for web, for shitposting on 4chan, etc.
I mean, really the gaming aspects of my PC are a mid range graphics card that costs about $200, and doubling the RAM to 16GB instead of 8GB, so that's like, a total of $300 to make a PC gaming capable instead of just for browsing web and shitposting.
Considering I like to play some MMO's from time to time, considering I VASTLY prefer mouse and keyboard for WRPG's and shooters and strategy games..I'd definitely say I have more than enough games to be worth having a PC.
I honestly don't understand how anyone here has a console but no PC at all. PC's are basically required for modern living.
>>342208806
Why are PC users obsessed with the quantity argument?
>>342203519
This desu senpai. The loli is much sexier.
>>342208891
isn't stating there's a lack of something to begin with a quantity argument?
>>342208891
Because it's the only metric that can be used objectively. It's the same reason PS4 owners keep pulling out the "muh sales" argument.
It's a nice number that can't be refuted, and thus carries slightly more weight than "I think this is good and if you don't agree you're wrong".
>>342202286
Why not just go watch some porn instead of playing shitty games?
>>342208884
>I use my PC for so much more than gaming though.
Yeah, people keep saying that but I found out that you don't really need much to browse the internet and pirate HD anime.
>>342209101
Why not go to tumblr if you're offended by attractive females
>>342202286
>star ocean
No just no I refuse to play this garbage. Someone post vids of previous iterations.
>>342208891
Because 16k of those games are hot garbage that should never have been made.
Thanks steam greenlight!
>>342209029
>>342209095
Is quality not more important? The PS4 currently has something like 600 games but no one is desperate enough to use them in an argument like PC users are. It doesn't seem to matter than 99% of those 17k games are $2 flash games you got during a steam sale, there's 17k of them so PC users technically shouldn't even want console games to being with yet here you are
>>342208806
Yeah, PC gamers aren't starved for games at all, it's not like DmC was on the top 10 best selling games on Steam two months after release or anything...
>>342202286
an autistic deviantart render?
>>342208668
Well if it's anything like the last Star Ocean it's going to be garbage.
>>342209262
Its funny that console users typically dont ever give a shit about PC games yet PC gamers are obsessed with console games and they insist in asking why we play on consoles like dude
Star Ocean story has always been shit, and who the fuck plays JRPGs for the gameplay?
>>342209207
I'm not or I'd complain about every video game ever.
I am offended by shitty trash video games, though, and that's why I ask why you bother even playing trash like that when R34 gives you what you buy these shitty games for more than the games do.
>>342209262
Of course quality is important, but quality is subjective.
I know people out there who will argue to the death that Bloodborn is the peak of all society, and those who played through the entire game and openly stated that it was the biggest waste of time in their lives.
Same goes for arguably low quality games like Undertale. Some praise it as the best man-made phenomenon since the wheel, while others hate it with passion.
People bring up numbers because you can't really refute those.
Boiling the PS4 vs PC down to quality is just saying "I like this and therefor I am right". Which is silly.
>>342209626
You don't know shit about the game you just saw Fiore's design and got offended.
Fuck off.
>>342209305
It probably sold as good in consoles and no one came out saying it was the best dmc or anything close at all.
The prime example of game starvation was the release of FF13. Everyone knew it was badly critized and it still so much that sqare decided to port pretty much every other relevant FF game.
>>342209585
I think it's because PC users can usually HAVE console games.
Console users usually can't have PC games.
And that's not me trying to push my view, it's just that the chances of [JRPG #1235637] coming to PC is infinitely more likely than say, Total Warhammer.
>>342209305
>tfw dont own any of those games but Chivalry
Feels good.
Just sold my PS3 that I owned for a year too. Amazing that people bought that piece of shit on launch when it only provided me not even a years worth of games I liked.
Don't worry, one day I might buy your PS4 off you when it has a game worth playing for a discounted price of 80 dollars only to be resold again once I'm done fuckin' yo girl.
>>342208448
>>342208884
But I mean, for the sake of argument... the thing about PC's is they're modular, you only spend a few hundred dollars at any one time.
You have your old PC, but you're thinking about a new build, but for now, you can take the monitor, mouse and keyboard, speaker system, the RAM, provided it's not too old and still fits in modern motherboards, and your video card if it's stilll good.
Provided everything's standard parts, you can keep your standard ATX case and power supply too if it has enough juice.. so.. starting a new build with a new motherboard and cpu, $250 for an i5 build which will play a good amount of games at max settings on one 1080p monitor at 60fps. For multiple monitors, 4k, and some games being more cpu bound you might not be able to hack it that way.. but for a mid range build it'll do.
Okay so.. maybe in a few months, you want to upgrade your video card, if you're going mid range, there's another $200 or so. Add more DIMM's of matching RAM, $100 or so some months later, Maybe your monitor finally starts to die, 21 inch monitors are cheap, can get IPS LED monitors for under $150
Now if you full build a mid range system at once, yeah.. it'll cost double the cost of a console. It's just that you never really do that, you put it together piece by piece, constantly upgrading parts until new tech no longer fits the sockets.
I think this year I've spent $300 on computer hardware (new monitor, new case fans, more RAM, since I had been running on 8gb)
If I would have bought games at full price, I'd have paid out probably $500 or so in PC games in that same time period. But I do usually buy on steam and GOG sales.
>>342209305
Yeah, except that it sold way, WAY more on consoles.
>>342209835
If you're so fucking interested in jrpgs then get a console and support jrpgs because the facts are that japanese gaming is going through hard times and needs all the help it can get and pc fats twiddling their thumbs demanding to be catered too isn't helping.
>>342209835
>Console users usually can't have PC games.
XCOM2 says hi
>>342210113
I don't want shitty JRPGs though and I'd rather you keep them on your containment DRM box
>>342209101
Because the main draw of Star Ocean games is their combat systems and soundtracks.
They do try with their visual fan service.. I mean, Myuria, Meracle, and Reimi were all fan service from 4 with gratuitous cleavage, shots of myuria, ass shots of reimi and meracle, and cameltoe closeups of meracle after battle.. but their uncanny valley faces ruin it.
But worth playing for the fun combat. Even though Star Ocean 4 had cringeworthy dialogue and story and artstyle, it's combat was fun enough to sink like 80+ hours into.
>>342210167
You realize you just cited literally one example, right?
The point still stands.
>>342202519
Bro. Brah. Broseph.
I love this weeaboo garbage. I've bought Senran Kagura, Vanguard Princess, Nekopara, Agarest, FF 13, Neptunia and more on pc alone.
Sometimes, you just need a guilty pleasure. I'll wait a bit longer to see if it comes out on PC, I like weeaboo trash games, but that doesn't mean I like paying full price for them.
>>342209587
the entire star ocean and tales of fanbases, because unlike most JRPG's, they actually have good combat.
>>342209825
>>342210048
It sold under Capcom's expectations that had been lowered more than once on consoles, and yet it was in the top 10 on Steam for two months. Not to mention the user reviews of the game.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dmc-devil-may-cry
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dmc-devil-may-cry
>5.3 on PS3, 5.1 on 360
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dmc-devil-may-cry
>6.7 on PC
http://store.steampowered.com/app/220440/
>OVERALL: Very Positive (8,010 reviews)
>>342209854
I don't have a PS4 though, it doesn't have enough games for me.
>>342210386
>>342210529
Fuck you.I'm still voting for you, I can't hate you. You are what this country needs
does this game have secret characters to unlock on different playthroughs?
>>342210348
kingdom come also got a port I believe and something else but that's not the point.
Console users largely dont want PC games but PC users always want console games and trash talk the people who play on console to play said games.
What the other said is important though, jap games have fallen on hard times and its a good thing to support them instead of waiting for a discounted PC port, publishers need consoles to survive and the more people migrate to pc the less likely these games have a chance of being made in the first place and slowly but surely it's pc is quietly destroying the japanese gmaing industry
>>342210689
No.
>>342210691
PC users dont truly support japanese vidiya, the only buy discount when it gets ported to PC.
And even in terms of backing hardware manufactures, they choose to back the ones who dont do anything for the industry like Nvidia, at least when you back Sony you're backing the production of their games like Bloodborne and Ratchet and Clank and even games like No Mans Sky
>>342207917
>Tales of Zestiria literally doubled the sales in the west because they made a PC port.
This is incorrect and you have no source. Please fuck off shitposter.
>>342210386
how is Senran Kagura anyway? It looks fun.
One of the times a SO thread doesn't devolve into censorship shit, it devolves into console war shit. Thanks.
None of you had any interest in these games and you're just here to argue for your "tribe".
Faggots.
>>342210874
>Console users are this retarded
Every person who bought a PS3 supported Nvidia.
Sony doesn't manufacture shit except cheap plastic cases.
>>342210691
>Console users largely dont want PC games
Actually there are plenty of PC exclusive games that I want, it's just when I see they're only on PC I just shrug and move on.
Usually a lot of popular ones find their way to consoles after a while, and if not, plenty of other fish in the sea.
>>342211047
The mention of PC is what happened even if both parties are at fault. If square didn't come out and mention PC SO threads would have been fine.
>>342208884
>I use my PC for so much more than gaming though.
People can do the same things with a mobile phone and or tablet - more in fact like make calls - you're ultimately paying more the same experience as console players 90%. You're bring duped by nVidia.
>>342208891
Because it's the only metric they can compete on - despite the fact that you might as well claim mobile is the best platform because they have thousands of (shit) games too.
>got SO:TSS when I was a kid because the cover was cool
>ignored SO3 because I heard it was bad
>SO4 skipped me by
>considering SO5 because titty witch is hot
In a way, I didn't grow up that much.
>>342210938
>how is Senran Kagura anyway? It looks fun.
All style, little substances. It's a lot like a masuo game and cast plays mostly the game. Its titillating factor become comedic rather than sexy early on. Keeps you engaged though with lots of extras to unlock.
5/10
>>342211082
You can play 99% of PC exclusives on a toaster, in fact the PC you're using now to false flag is capable of running them. A basic PC costs no more than $50 now anyway.
>>342211168
Except you aren't posting from a mobile phone or a tablet right now, are you? You're posting from a PC that you probably spent 300 dollars on.
You should seriously just buy shit built to last rather than being a cheap faggot with cheap things all your life.
Nobody does work on mobiles or tablets and you would know this if you were old enough to work.
>>342209998
>But I mean, for the sake of argument... the thing about PC's is they're modular, you only spend a few hundred dollars at any one time.
Exactly, you need to constantly upgrade your PC over and over with a new GPU every 2 years MINIMUM and they are the most expensive piece of hardware - and a console will have good support and tons of exclusives for at least 7 years based on the past two generations. Whilst also owning your games instead of licensing them, no hackers, no multiple game clients, mods are now on consoles too.
>>342211232
Find me a 50 dollar build that will play Total War Warhammer.
I'll wait.
Why does /v/ give bad games with cute girls a pass?
>>342211340
>every 2 years MINIMUM
>console users are actually this retarded
>>342210691
The reason why we want the games is because we know how easy it is to port and there's no technical reason why we can't play a 3rd party game on a PC, not to mention our PC's probably outperform a console with higher framerates, customizable graphics settings, etc.
If anyone on PC is saying that the console games themselves are bad they're just exhibiting the fox and the grapes.
The games are good, it's just that they're being sold to play on inferior hardware that has more limitations to it, and often there's just not enough exclusive games for that hardware that we want to make it worth buying that hardware.
If there were 20 games I wanted that were exclusive to the PS4 I'd have one right now.
But there's not, there's like, 4 or so, and when there's that few, instead of ponying up for the console I hope that some of those "exclusives" get ported instead. Because then it's a win win for me. I save money on not buying a console, and I get to play the game on better hardware.
>>342211272
>Except you aren't posting from a mobile phone or a tablet right now, are you?
Sure, I moved from my mobile to my PC about 40 minutes ago, and yet that means nothing in the content of the argument. Extrapolating less and less people will buy dedicated hardware (PC) unless they are some kind of developer as all content and work is moving online and being dependent on the internet which phones and tablets can do. These are facts - don't let it bother you, just stick to what you like but don't try to act like it matters what you perceive as "Cheap" or "Shit" versus "Good".
>>342211434
>muh technical limitations
>muh one gaem meme
>>342202519
I found SO4 to be great, so that wouldn't be a problem.
From what I've seen though, it doesn't seem to be nearly as good as SO4 though. The battle system, the core of the game, just appears to not be as good.
>>342202286
>Hear that the game is actually alright and a return to form after 4 shit the bed
>Hear absolutely nothing about it- no marketing- no threads, nothing
>Well if it's good maybe that's for the better!
>Put some cash aside from it
>Suddenly getting told it's shit and just 4 again
HELP
>>342211131
or if Squeenix would just confirm a PC port, I think everyone would just focus on the game itself and let everyone play on their platform of choice.
This argument wouldn't happen if everything had a port:
>I want to play [game] but I'd prefer it on PC
>JUST BUY A CONSOLE FOR IT PKEK/PCFAT
>But I don't want to pay for a console for just a few games
>OH THERE'S THAT NO GAEMS MEME AGAIN
and on and on and on.
>>342211549
>yes i bought a PC and yes I spent money on it but that doesn't detract from how cheap of a faggot I am
You know the same companies that make PC hardware are the ones outfitting PS4s right?
Sony doesn't build anything except DRM.
Stopped supporting them after they repeatedly worked their asses off to stop emulation on PSP.
>>342211412
Take a mid-range GPU from any year and compare it to any AAA triple game released 2 years later and you will see the performance is average and probably under the performance of a console - and this will only change with Neo and Scorpio.
>>342211434
>not to mention our PC's probably outperform a console with higher framerates,
Actually evidence support that most users on Steam have a computer LESS powerful than the current generation consoles, so it's most likely that it would underperform.
>>342211695
PC fats don't even care about the game they just use ports as more shitposting fuel to shit on consoles.
>>342202349
I always feel weird starting games in the middle of the series like this
I got lucky with MGS5 because I played MGS3 on PS2 years ago and the order I played them in made sense chronologically but for this game I'd feel like I've been missing out
>>342202286
I played 1 and 2 is it true that the whole game was a dream in a mmo?
Cause if so no buy from me thats retarded.
>>342211716
Most Steam users aren't representative of what I play, or want.
PC games offer a plethora of different things for people of different interests and budgets.
Console users usually batch themselves all together because they in fact do all want the same tired BamHam Creed gameplay prevalent in every console game if it has any gameplay at all.
The potential for owning better hardware if you want better graphics is actually an option that some people choose. Console owners don't want choice though because they're too retarded to think for themselves.
>>342211837
Yes.
>>342211168
>the same experience
except I don't have to aim with thumbsticks, I don't have to pay extra fees for online play on top of my ISP bill, I can customize settings, mod, use text chat and mute all the mic spamming children, etc.
I just PREFER playing a game on PC vs playing on a console 100% of the time. I have options for controls, no I don't have to play everything on kb/mouse, I play most Japanese games with a gamepad.
>>342211793
I want the games and the audience to stay where they are. Console owners want everybody to swear fealty to Sony because they're drones.
>>342211715
>You know the same companies that make PC hardware are the ones outfitting PS4s right?
No shit, and in the context of this argument it means nothing.
>Sony doesn't build anything except DRM.
Every single piece of software that manages digital software is technically DRM. Here is the difference that PC only users fail to acknowledge -
I can take my console offline for good and put a disc I bought and play it with no problems whatsoever as long as I have it (barring a developer who makes an online only game but everyone can agree that they can get fucked). You will only ever own a digital license from a publisher that you do not own - will never own and can be revoked from you at any time and there is nothing you can do about it because you already revoked your rights when you signed the Steam service agreement.
>>342211205
so wait for sales?
>>342211983
No I want more people to support JRPGs as soon as possible.
I don't want Jap games to die and PC fats don't seem to care about jrpgs until they come to their platform.
>>342211958
>>342211579
What's the matter, janitor-kun? Mad I called you out on your fanboyism shitposts? Cry some more delicious tears!
>>342211340
You don't need to upgrade your graphics card more than about once every 4-5 years, and you can buy a decent mid range card for $200 or so that is more powerful than what is in consoles even when they were brand new.
>>342212041
Summer sale is this week, doubt it'll go for more than 15% off but we'll see, I've been proven wrong before.
>>342211996
>in the context of this argument it means nothing.
It does though. You are building the capital of PC hardware companies so they can continue making hardware thats better for me.
>>I can take my console offline for good and put a disc I bought and play it with no problems whatsoever as long as I have it
I can put EVERY game on 50 discs and continue to re-burn it even 2000 years from now.
Your disk will one day fade or break and you will have to rebuy it if it exists.
Nobody can take my games from me since I can play them on any different PC at any time no matter what, you rely on your PS4 and disk working always. At which case you are barricaded to only being able to buy one of the two options.
Would love you to find me a single player game that a PC user was restricted from playing by the publisher, though. Never happened. You're dreaming.
>>342211916
>Most Steam users aren't representative of what I play, or want.
Dumbass - it doesn't matter what YOU play or what - or even what I want - Steam user hardware evidence suggests that consoles are more powerful than the majority of PC users and this will only increase as Neo and Scorpio release - I'm not going to repeat myself a third time.
>Console users usually batch themselves all together because they in fact do all want the same tired BamHam...
I'm not interested in your garbage generalizations about millions of people you know nothing about, fuck off and stop wasting everyones' time.
>>342211971
>except I don't have to aim with thumbsticks,
Neither do I - PS4 has had plug and play support for KB+M for any game that is able to use it since release - multiple people on console play BF 4 for e.g. w KB+M - you just don't know this. Go check on youtube there is tons of footage.
>>342212307
>Steam user hardware evidence suggests that consoles are more powerful
Common sense suggests that anybody can buy better hardware at any time if they want to, and many people do.
You're fucking dumb, kid.
>>342211996
>>342212251
The only company that actually bans people from playing games they paid for that aren't multiplayer is Sony.
If you lose your PSN account from a ban you will lose every game that is associated to it, and considering PS4 owners are extorted every month for PSN that can turn out to be a big investment.
20 hour game, 30 hours at best. 2/3 of that of apparently side quests, which is just accepting kill/fetch quests in mass and backtracking through all the previous zones, a lot.
Less than 10 zones and dungeons and all of them are big, empty, and bland in order to accommodate actually fighting in the field wuth a 7 person party.
All the music, animations, and abilities are recycled from past games, because of their low budget.
I wanted to support this game so badly, but I'm not going to dish out full price for a game that had a budget of half or less compared to any other full priced game. I'm not going to waste my money on a 10 hour story rpg, even if they turn around and say "well I guess no one likes it!" They can shove it. If you're going to not spend any money making your game, then at least respect your fans enough to sell it at a relational price.
I canceled my pre-order and I'll wait until it's $15 in a ps+ sale.
>>342211232
What about my post is false flagging? That is legit how I feel.
Also I'm using a 200 dollar pre-built Walmart PC from 2007, you'd be surprised at what it has trouble doing.
>>342212168
>You don't need to upgrade your graphics card more than about once every 4-5 years
No, this is absolutely incorrect, the only way this is true is if you buy the very best GPU out at that point in time which would cost you about $600 which is twice the price of a console alone, and your point is moot as we have already made clear the things a PC can do for 95% of consumers can be done on a phone or tablet or on the internet on a toaster. And also we are talking about the average PC user because that's how surveys and general information gathering works and the average person does NOT buy the very best GPU.
http://www.game-debate.com/news/19768/dark-souls-3-pc-gtx-750-ti-benchmark-analysis
Here is a $200 GPU (750ti) trying to play Dark souls 3 - the game AVERAGES at 28FPS on Ultra with that card which is WORSE than the PS4 (both at 1080p) as it averages at 30FPS. Yes this at Ultra because there is no discernible difference with PS4 and PC Ultra.
You're simply regurgitating memes from /v/ or pcmasterrace which is bullshit
>>342207775
Why is it you fucks always think exclusives are the reason to get a PC. The reason is so that the games you play are higher quality than on consoles.
>>342212529
>If you lose your PSN account from a ban you will lose every game that is associated to it, and considering PS4 owners are extorted every month for PSN that can turn out to be a big investment.
Two years ago or so, there was a "pro" gamer that went on a maniacal hate rant on youtube cause some hacker took his 12game online account with lots of platinum trophies and shit.
Sony refused to give him his account back and credit him for the games. I laughed back then and I still laugh now. Filthy console casuals deserve what they get.
>>342212083
I want to buy more JRPG's and if it's something I really want I do buy it at full price when it first launches. I know I'll spend 60-80+ hours on even a mediocre JRPG, making it worth the full price of the game, it's less than a dollar per hour of entertainment.. but there's just no rationale to play it on dated hardware if a PC port is a possibility.
I don't care about supporting Sony as a hardware manufacturer at all. They could fold their gaming branch tomorrow and I'd be tickled pink, hopefully Microsoft folds their console hardware branch first though.
>>342212382
No, you're a fucking idiot, in case you didn't go to school - the reason why we use averages or medians is because it is the only way to get accurate data representative of the total information in general.
http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/ld/resources/numerical-data/averages
>>342212870
If sony dies the whole japanese game industry dies or goes mobile.
That's the simple truth.
>>342212747
I'm using a gtx 670 that came out in 2012 and it gets twice the framerate of a PS4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp4xQMqWSjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxzCRlH3BOw
You're simply a retard living in a dreamworld talking about things he knows nothing about because he wishes to believe in dumbass memes like "SONY 4 THE PLAYERS"
>>342212959
PC users would rather it die than be force to play a turn based RPG at anything less that 800 frames per nanosecond and 10k resolution.
>>342212529
>>342212863
>Steam's official support representative has stated that "Games registered to suspended accounts will no longer be accessible; even in offline mode."
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/648814844301293683/?l=finnish
Fuck off shitposters.
>>342212205
about how long is the game? Like how many hours would I spend on it?
>>342213082
>>342212959
I don't give a shit about the Japanese game industry, they dont make games I play.
>>342212870
no console = no square = no ports for you
You would rather let the industry die than support japanese developers and consoles that sustain them. Sometimes I wonder why people let hardware become more important than games, and I wonder what you guys grew up playing or if you just joined the PC fanbase recently or something to that effect.
>>342213009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfVbVR6S40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2h-rn1Nuxk
Why can't PS4 even compete with a card older than it?
Sony fans cucked again.
>>342213270
>p-pleaseee buy a PS4 otherwise Square Enix will die
Let it die and send me your tears to drink before you hang yourself.
>>342213194
Then get the fuck out of this thread you shitposting cunt - this thread is about a game you apparently have no interest in but you're in a thread purely just to shitpost because you're a fucking mad as fuck peeceec cuck. You are the worst of the worst go waste your fucking life elsewhere shithead.
>>342212747
I can't back it up entirely as I haven't played DaS3, or looked up comparisons for PS4 vs PC settings, but usually PS4 isn't set what's comparable to ultra on a PC, but usually somewhere between mid and high.
>>342213194
WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT GET GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>342208067
Though I'm a pc and ps4 owner, I agree.
Pc is more expensive as a whole, but games are waaaay cheaper. With a console you end up paying for the console, extra controllers if you want to couch multiplayer, online subscription and then 30- 70 bucks for a game.
Having said that, gaming is my main hobby, ps4 is becoming cheaper by the day and I got a white ps4 mainly for bloodborne and those multiplayer games, and haven't regretted it yet. Also, makes a decent netflix machine to watch series in the background when I'm on my pc.Though I'm still trying to figure out why people are buying xboners...
>>342213373
>I take pride in being a PC port begging selfish cunt and the most cancerous type of gamer there is who has literally become so hardware obsessed it serves as a barrier between him and games he wants to play. And instead of supporting them he will gladly step over their bodies just to buy 50% so he can run it on his pc and deny the fact that if consoles cease to exist so do many major publishers like square
>>342213626
>I am a childish console fanboy who has to beg people to buy a console for games they dont want because their sales are so mediocre they cant support themselves off the market they develop for
>>342213270
no, if Sony folded, they'd simply start making more shit for Nintendo, that's what they did before Sony joined the console gaming market.
>>342213697
If you don't want this game why the fuck are you in this thread you retard
>>342213787
To ask why people want shitty porn games with bad gameplay if they can just go jerk off to R34 online/
>>342213841
Fuck off feminist
>>342213009
>>342213312
Do you have mental problems - the price of a new GTX 670 is literally the same price of that a PS4 is NOW. Which makes you even more stupid because you would have paid more than the price of a PS4 for JUST a GPU your point is already moot you dumb fuck.
>>342213841
It's not a porn game retard, it's a shitty JRPG with a couple of fanservicy character designs.
>>342213545
>but usually PS4 isn't set what's comparable to ultra on a PC,
You're right, it USUALLY isn't but in this case I know that it is, because my best friend runs it on Ultra and we compared it minutes away, and it's easy enough to look it up online too.
>>342202349
OH FUG
Maybe I should cancel my preorder then.
>>342213697
Publishers not being able to support themselves from the platforms that develop for is the exact sign of a dying industry and it's because PC gaming has fragmented the market and it will only continue to get worse.
>>342213730
The fanbases for jrpgs that hit Sony platforms isn't on Nintendo and you assume they would all just follow Nintendo and their next wiiU-tier console which is false. If Sony folded major japanese publishers and developers would be put out of work.
My idea extends further beyond that though, if console gaming as a whole folds, the gaming industry in Japan more or less dies with it and the PC gamers in this thread are more or less consciously supporting a trend that is enabling this because hardware has become more important to them than the games, the developers, the industry or the platforms that tradditionally sustain them themselves.
They can do what they want though, nothing in this thread will change their minds or the minds of console users to game on PC for better performance. It's just sad it has to be this way that hardware has become the name of the game for so many people.
>>342213312
>A GPU that costs the same as a PS4 only runs the game at an average 10FPS higher - for hundreds of dollars more - on the GPU ALONE.
You're an idiot, do you know that?
>>342213901
I'm not a cheap little faggot with no standards like you are, Timmy. Tell your mom to get a second job so you aren't poor forever.
It's pretty sad that a PS4 is a year younger than the GTX670 and can't even run games at half the framerate with half the graphics settings while costing TWICE as much. Pathetic even.
Silly of Sony to even release a model of PS4 for people with standards but they'll be surprised to find that their fanbase has none when it fails.
>>342214094
Here's the thing, even if consoles were up to standards and Sony put out a cutting edge console tomorrow, they still wouldn't want to buy a console to play the games they want. They have been taught to hate consoles, it's just the way it is, it's a hardware bias that's stronger than their desire to play video games, even if the industry collapses they will stand by their PC hardware and not regret a single thing.
>>342211198
>>ignored SO3 because I heard it was bad
You fucked up. 3 is the best one.
>>342213130
Pretty odd that I haven't heard of anyone losing access to all their games on here and this is the kind of place that would have a field day with that news.
With all my years here, I've never seen a thread where anyone claimed "Valve took all my games away cause I got hacked". Got any source with that?
>>342213312
but can the GTX670 play Bloodborne?
>>342213610
I still have an Xbox 360 that I have all of like, 6 games for (the source of my buyers remorse and my ultimatum on no more consoles unless there's enough exclusives for them)
Out of those 6 games, not all of them are even exclusives anymore.
I have.. dead rising (the first one), Ninja Gaiden 2, which later came on PS3 as Sigma, Star Ocean 4, which later came on PS3 as the international version, Tales of Vesperia, which got a PS3 port but since I don't read moon I can pretend it's still exclusive.. Bayonetta, which I heard the PS3 version had problems so the xbox version was better (or maybe now the Wii U version is better), and Castlevania, Lords of Shadow, which got a PC port.
At the time I bought it, Tales of Vesperia was coming for 360 exclusive, Star Ocean 4 was going to be a 360 exclusive, Ninja Gaiden 2 was 360 exclusive, so I was thinking it was bizzare that these Japanese action games and JRPG's were 360 games instead of PS3, but that's the way it was, and at the time the PS3 had literally no gaems I was interested in playing, this was early 2008.
Then 2009 hit, Demon's Souls was a big hit and also out of the blue all the JRPG's switched from 360 to PS3, with the 360 getting no more JRPG's outside of Final Fantasy XIII. PS3 started getting ports of prior exclusives too.
It just took developers a few years to figure out how to make games for the Cell processor.
So now I watch netflix on my 360 because I don't have a smart TV and don't feel like buying an extra box for it...
Or well, I did watch netflix on the 360. I got a Wii U recently and now I use that for Netflix instead, it's so much more quiet than the 360. The 360 is so goddamned noisy I have to crank the TV up just to hear.
God I wish I could reach back in time and slap myself in 2008 and prevented that purchase.
Tales of Vesperia was good, as a silver lining, but maybe one day they'll port the PS3 version of thatprobably never ever
>>342214221
>I'm not a cheap little faggot with no standards like you are, Timmy. Tell your mom to get a second job so you aren't poor forever.
You ignoramus, I am only going to tell you one more time, what YOU buy on YOUR budget does not matter to the consumer - they are going to look at a price versus performance ratio and make a decision - just because you decided to waste hundreds of extra dollars does not mean that everyone else is that stupid.
>It's pretty sad that a PS4 is a year younger than the GTX670 and can't even run games at half the framerate with half the graphics settings while costing TWICE as much.
What the fuck are you talking about? The video YOU posted shows identical visuals and an FPS increase of 10 hundreds of extra dollars 2 years ago - and if you bought a new one RIGHT NOW it would cost the SAME ($300) as a PS4.
Do you understand yet? Seriously I've had to explain this to you like 3 times now.
>>342212675
Are you underage? Prebuilts are scams. More expensive and weaker than even buying from an actual pc shop.
>>342214094
>>342214375
Nobody fragmented the market more than Sony.
With consolewars that have raged since before you were born PC was always its own thing with its own games and has lived without existing as a competitor.
Only now it is because devs are finding its better to produce on PC also but I wish they wouldn't because I don't want you faggots on my platform.
If only you understood that as insufferable as you console faggots are it is worse if I have you on my platform than when you are on your own and doing well. Which, for example, consists of NEVER EVER shitposting and WE WIN AGAIN BROS bullshit. I'd rather that every single day for years than to have to actually play video games with you fags, because in the end, none of that means anything to anybody those games dont matter to.
>>342214221
So judging by the costs of the GPU alone, it essentially costs around $700~$800 to just barely outperform a PS4 but even that is shrouded in mystery by the intentionally vague youtube videos that conveniently fail to mention the specs the PC is running on or how much it costs.
What are you trying to prove here? That PC gaming is cheap? Because it isn't and it's been proven that consoles are better value for money in terms of raw per spec performance + game optimization
If you're trying to prove that PC's when built to outperform a PS4 cost around $700 at minimum then well done, you've proved that. PC's can outperform a PS4! WOW
>>342214712
If you didn't want people to play on PC more maybe you and all the other PC Jehovah's Witnesses shouldn't have tried to indoctrinate everyone into jumping to PC.
>>342214094
No, the publishers would just go to Nintendo, or make games for PC, or even the Xbone.
Sony doesn't make or break the JRPG genre. it existed and sold millions of cartridges before the Playstation was ever a thing.
Before They knew how to develop games for the PS3 very effectively, many JRPG's were coming out for the 360 and even some on the Wii, and Atlus was still releasing for the PS2. They'd also make games for the DS and PSP.
So no, not everything absolutely must be on the latest Sony console hardware.
>>342214585
>does not matter to the consumer
No, it matters to the producer, who knows theres more profit from ripping consoletards off on cheap hardware like Best Buy does with pre-builts.
You don't make as much shekels making quality products that require effort to do. We know this. I have said all along console players have no standards, so they get cheap generic mass produced consoles with cheap generic mass produced games.
I am glad we agree on this.
>>342214386
>Got any source with that?
It's in the post you just replied to - I even pasted Steams currently, unchanged mandate on chargebacks or any other fuck up you make.
>"Games registered to suspended accounts will no longer be accessible; even in offline mode."
If you want more examples just use Google, the problem with this is that all of your games are tied to your account and are digital only and just a license, whereas if you get a banned account on a PS4/Wii U (don't know about Xbox) you can still use your console offline with any account and any physical game you have - this is what I am again pointing out. Steam has notoriously shit customer service, just like any other company under the sun.
>>342214381
I can alwaysemulateit.
>>342214712
You have no idea what you're talking about, and if the fanbase is the main issue you have with Sony then just say it and leave it at that. Trying to infuse this embarrassingly irrelevant observation into your half ass argument is meaningless.
PC gaming is slowly killing the industry and if console gaming folds, the industry goes down with it, that's a fact.
>>342214904
Well you should~
After all, SO5 is modelled after it~
Will you guys fucking stop with the platform war shitposting for once?
>>342214892
>No, it matters to the producer, who knows theres more profit from ripping consoletards off on cheap hardware like Best Buy does with pre-builts.
Look m8, everyone can see you're just a shitposter here spewing garbage and making all kinds of assumptions with no evidence to back it up, I'm done replying to you, go waste your fucking time elsewhere.
>>342212529
How can they ban me from putting a disk in my PS4? ;)
>>342214978
Please don't type at me like that, onee-san.
>>342214759
No, you could build a PC for around the same cost of a PS4 today with a GTX 670 that outperforms the console by about 2x.
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/n9BmP6
I would reallllly recommend dishing out 100-200 extra dollars though because seriously 400 dollar PCs aren't great. I'm not a cheap poor piece of shit so 600 dollar PC is totally reasonable.
But aside from blowing you the fuck out, seriously, please don't build a PC consolefags I want you to stay on your shitbox forever.
>>342214901
>It's in the post you just replied to
No, it's not, only a change to the agreement clause but as I clearly said twice. Not Once Have I Seen The Accusation That Someone Had Their Games Taken From Them. Typing it into googles gives no solid evidence either, only conjectures theory crafting and more, which you used.
I don't know if you're that anon, but you're bullshitting something fierce and getting yourself worked up over something that has yet to happen but "could" happen.
Stop with the bullshit and point me to the evidence. Stop being a women and thinking with your feelings. I want facts and numbers.
>>342214091
>Considering
Devs always say this, it doesn't mean shit until it's officially announced and has a release date.
If it happens it won't be for a while, depends if you can be arsed waiting.
>>342215027
>A Star Ocean V thread
>Pc users come in and shitpost about how it might come to PC instead of actually talking about the game
>>342215027
Not gonna happen. There are always retards who will come shitpost.
>>342215179
Just fucking shut it about PCfats and Consolecucks for once in your sad life.
>>342215126
>No, you could build a PC for around the same cost of a PS4 today with a GTX 670 that outperforms the console by about 2x.
Yeah yeah that's bullshit. Show me actual tangible proof, until then you're dreaming just like everyone else who tries to pretend that PC gaming is cheap when it's not.
>>342202286
For real? Fuck I still need to get my PS4
>>342214928
No, console gaming slowly killed PC games. Trust me, if console producers fail I couldn't give two shits about Ubisoft or Bethesda calling it quits on video games.
You are the cancel that has choked this industry dry filling it with garbage.
Your industry failing only means the freedom from mindless consumerism so that people can focus on the things that matter: games that are quality and try to be more than FotM bullshit making a financial quota.
>>342215126
>No, you could build a PC for around the same cost of a PS4 today with a GTX 670 that outperforms the console by about 2x.
I think you made a mistake, I think you mean you have to spend 2x the amount of a PS4 to outperform it...slightly.
>>342215126
>pcpartpicker
lmao, nice try fuckwit
>>342215134
Look:
Here is what can cause a suspended account: (pastebin because 4chan is retarded)
http://pastebin.com/sdYLyVA1
>No, it's not, only a change to the agreement clause but as I clearly said twice.
A change to an agreement that YOU agree to when you create a Steam account.
>"Games registered to SUSPENDED accounts will no longer be accessible; even in offline mode."
It's pretty fucking simple dude, if you want a source of someone saying "Oh shit my games are all gone."- on a Steam forum I'm not sure how you're going to get one since one you're suspended you can no longer post on the Steam community forums m8.
>>342215095
You can't stop me~
>>342215643
Fuck off. Stop replying. Stop shitposting.
>>342215407
>I think you mean you have to spend 2x the amount of a PS4 to outperform it.
There are probably dozens of "console-killer" builds, but I reiterate that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNNtgKdhMg
A GTX 580 still outperforms PS4 2x with the same specs and its over 5 years old.
But again, stay on your containment DRM. This isn't about the fact that PC gaming is not only a better deal for the consumer in terms of performance/price.
It's about you keeping your company worship contained to your ghettoboxes.
>>342215643
The only way to get your account suspended is to steal somebodies financial information and use it.
Even then, any games you buy on Steam you can keep forever.
Just put the data on an external hard drive or burn it. We have options, unlike retarded console-plebs.
>>342215151
Yeah no, I'm not gonna cancel it. I've been waiting for SO5 to become a reality for a long time.
tri-Ace has never had a game on PC either, though now would be the optimal time to do it since PC gaming is becoming more lucrative even for Japanese devs. Their games ever since the last gen started have all been on the same engine, so if it's as easy to port their games to PC as he said, then they probably would've done it already if SE and they themselves had felt like it was worth doing.
It's not gonna happen until at least a year after, if at all. Sooner than that would be a miracle.
>>342202286
I literally don't know anything about this game aside this girl.
>>342210386
You're literally everything wrong with the Japanese game industry.
>>342215831
>A GTX 580 still outperforms PS4 2x with the same specs and its over 5 years old.
You are objectively wrong. A GPU doesn't outperform anything, a PC dose and when you can't even establish the very cost of the PC in question you basically have no argument, whatever point you were trying to make is null.
It is no secret that spending more than PS4 on PC parts will probably yield better performance but if you think this is some kind of achievement worthy or notable enough for praise you sir, are an absolute moron.
Console are and will continue to be great value for money weather you can factually come to your sense or not.
>>342215831
At 1080p 9same as the PS4) with an i7 4790k which is a $500 DOLLAR CPU and a GTX 960 which is a repackaged GTX 560 according to multiple sources GTA V runs at 50 FPS on average. So before any other piece of hardware is calculated - you are already spending $800 EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS for a an average 20FPS increase but still not hitting 60.
Keep trying faggot, you will be blown the fuck out every single time.
>Even then, any games you buy on Steam you can keep forever.
I don't know whether you are someone new or not but...
>the problem with this is that all of your games are tied to your account and are digital only and just a license from the publisher
>Just put the data on an external hard drive or burn it.
You can transfer the data all you want but when you try to run it it will ask you to open the steam client and check the license even in offline mode - how you don't know this after almost 20 years of Steam I don't know
>We have options, unlike retarded console-plebs.
Oh because you're a braindead pathetic fucking shitposter - that's why.
>>342213194
you don't play good video games at all?
shut the fuck up faggots and talk about the game
considering buying it
>>342216845
I can't find much information about the game; combat system seems lackluster.
What have you been able to find out?
>>342216629
>randomly throws the most expensive cpu he can into the price range
Consoleplebs really are retarded.
>>342217409
if he wants to emulation wii games at a frame rate above 10 thats needed
>>342217231
DIE DIE DIIIIIE
>>342203519
>>342217874
>consoletards actually think an i3-tier processor in their drm dedicated shitboxes is 500 dollars in any other system
cant make this shit up, this is how they get ripped off like they do
>>342219678
>i3-tier processor
More like Pentium 3
>>342202286
And they couldn't have mentioned this BEFORE I bought a PS4? Seriously, it feels like Sony just scams everyone into buying their consoles now, "look at all these exclusives you can't play unless you have our system!". This is exactly what happened to me when I bought a Vita.
>tfw PC release news
>slew of people saying they'll pirate it or wait for it to go on sale
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, I'm glad PC users can play the game. On the other hand, they're quite boisterous in their acquisition of any game and just ruin threads (and I'm not saying this is exclusive to them) when people actually wanna discuss the game in question.
