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Bethesda will defend this
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>>342173590
I'm confused
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>>342173590
wut
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Inb4 butthurt bethesda apologists
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>>342173590
It's a timeline where the nazis drained the Mediterranean sea like they planned.
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>>342173696
>>342173820

The divide of the countries in africa.

Those country lines shouldnt exist in the fallout universe
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>>342173776
>>342173696
>Mediterranean is land
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>>342173590
isn't Canada supposed to be part of the US?
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In this world, there is no red sea or Mediterranean
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>>342173590
All lakes were drained?

This seems possible in our real life timeline.
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>>342173832
The Nazis lost you tard.
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>>342173590
The best part is I'm a mapfag and recognize that, it's one of the most common PNG political maps on the net. They forgot to make the Mediterranean "clear" instead of filled in when they copy-pasted it off Google images.

q u a l i t y
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what a great post and thread, fallout lore would never be the same
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>this is important to /v/
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>>342174020
no shit
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>>342173903
i see it now
maybe nuclear war could have evaporated large amounts of water?
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>>342174060
They a really sloppy job. Look at the great lakes between canada and US borders
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>Africa literally merging with Europe
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>>342174060
>the most common PNG political maps on the net
this
they literally just got an random map from the web

>They forgot to make the Mediterranean "clear" instead of filled in when they copy-pasted it off Google images.
this
fucking /pol/acks and /int/elligents do that better in mapthreads
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>>342173590
WE
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Great thread, congratulations OP
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You are all autistic.
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>>342173893
Why
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>>342174201
Just like real life.
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>>342173590
It has West Sahara but not South Sudan?
>dat Mediterranean
>dat Caspian Sea
>dat Red Sea
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>>342173832
Nazi's didnt make the plan.

>>342174158
Nuclear war causes a nuclear winter, not nuclear heatwave
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>>342174281
*acoustic
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>>342174281
*artistic
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>>342174446
artistic*
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more
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>>342174158
>the people who made this map did it AFTER the nuclear war
what?
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Is there any site I can read the lore?
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>>342173903
>>342174372
not just the sea, but also the borders

>canada not annexed
>germany not divided/reunified
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>>342174446
i kekd harder than i shoulde.
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>>342174521
Oh dear God.
They re-used the same fuck up.

How do you not notice that?
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>>342174521
This is true tho, look what is up with Europe right now.
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>>342174684
>How do you not notice that?
Game is made by Americans
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>>342174649
10/10 quality control bethesda
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>>342174684
>>342174709
thank god there are modders who do a better job than a FUCKING MILLION DOLLAR WORTH PROFESSIONAL GAME STUDIO WHO HAS BOOKS OF LORE
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>>342174347
>>342174709
>It's a "Americans pretend they don't have a greater nigger issue" episode
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>>342174879
what the fuck happened to France and Italy
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>>342174881
Your deflection isn't working.
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>>342173590
Is this shit for real?

>>342173696
>>342173776

wow
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>>342174978
Aquitaine is finally free.
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>>342174881
Thugs are one thing, Jihadists are a whole other song and dance
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>>342174879
I'm not too well-versed in Fallout lore, what is going on in Europe? And who the fuck is able to keep post-colonial African borders around after a fucking global nuclear war?
>yeah man the Sahara is all one country now but fucking Rwanda and Burundi still exist
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>>342175043
Yes

>There are some errors on the map. The map is not consistent with the Fallout timeline. Most notably is that the United States and Canada are separate, although it is possible that the globe was produced before the annexation. The European borders are drawn out as in the real world. The Soviet Union, which in the Fallout timeline, did not collapse in the 20th century, is also split into each of the separate former-Soviet states. The Mediterranean and Black Seas are colored in as if they are land masses, and not bodies of water. Finally, China also taken over much of the rest of the far-eastern territory not claimed by the USSR.

wiki
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>>342173832
>Fallout takes place in the New Order timeline

DEEPEST LORE
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>>342175136
Your nignogs cause more death and single mothers than any jihadist.
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>>342174879
According to the lore, what position did the countries of South America take during the war? Just curious. I mean, if they remained neutral just like in every war, shouldn't they have survived? Or they got nuked just cause?
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>>342175249
Look at Brazil, they don't even need to be nuked.
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>>342173590
>Japan

Fallout Japan when
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>>342173590
The Mediterranean sea actually has a higher evaporation rate than the Atlantic ocean, so if the strait of Gibraltar were to close eventually it would turn into one giant salt flat. The same likely goes for the Red sea and Persian Gulf.
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Is it even possible to drain the Mediterranean? What would it even be used for if done? Farming? What about all the salt that will be left on the land from the sea being there?

I always see the Mediterranean being drained in alt history stuff but why? Just lolnazis! or is there actually something to it?
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>>342174879

Fuck it, everyone knows Canada is just Secret USA anyways.
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>>342175334
2008
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>>342175249
>neutral just like in every war
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>>342175350
Baltic too?
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>persian gulf is land
>red sea is land
>great lakes are land

im not sure if this is lazy or just utter incompetence of the texture artist who didn't bucket fill the areas with blue.

lore reasons do no count in bethsda fallout because they fucking ignore it outright.
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>>342175376
Direct access to Africa.
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>no new zealand
AHAHA POO PEELAND BTFO AGAIN
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Chill the fuck out guys. A game with ghouls and supermutants and you want realism.
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>>342173590
the lakes dried up, stupid.
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>>342175704
Yeah bro, it's just a game geez.
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>>342175550
Can't explain away all the failures, but the Mediterranean was an easy one.
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>>342175350
>One giant salt flat

More proof that curvature of the earth does not exist. Abyssal plains are flat too and cover most of the earth.
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>>342173590
holy fuck

Do they just not give a shit?
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>>342174649
Well the thing with Canada was that was during the war so they probably didn't update the maps yet
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>Bethesda would defend that lying piece of shit Mercator map projection

Doesn't shock me considering Toddles is the king of lies.
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>>342174881
Our immigrants are Spics the majority of which are culturally compatible Catholics who are interested in work.

Your immigrants are nearly all Muslims whos culture is completely alien to the nations they are migrating to and who have absolutely no interest in assimilating and becoming productive members of society.
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>>342174879
>Mexico not annexed
>Europe isn't one big super state
>all this made up shit which they cannot justify
Fuck me, you might as well have left it as the original one.
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>>342173590

No Azores...

My jimmies have been rustled...
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>>342173590
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
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>>342176184
Just realized even the American great lakes are not colored in correctly.

It's not just 'murican ignorance, they are just lazy.
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>>342175249
US probably fucked all of them for resources
im guessing they got nuked a little bit but not too much
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>>342174879
So argentina is doing fine in the fallout universe? good.
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>>342176380
Have you ever been so willingly ignorant that you believed that a vast majority of Americans didn't know the Mediterranean didn't exist because of memes?
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>>342175630
That's it? Why not just build some fucking bridges then? Wouldn't that be easier than draining a major waterway?
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>>342175249
We have no idea.
I've always assumed that Communism made a big impact in South America considering how much longer it has lasted. The USSR would have to focus its energy on something other than turning Europe commie considering the EU formed earlier than normal, which means no Warsaw Pact and Commie Eastern Europe.

Maybe Brazil was pro western and Gran Colombia was pro commie and these two super states had their own little cold war. I'm just speculating to be honest.
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>>342176380
8 years
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>>342176608
No, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Europeans honestly believed that.
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>>342176608
I was memeing.
>>342176621
Boats are more cost effective than bridges. Spain/Gibraltar are not that far from Morocco, so this "direct access" bullshit is absurd.
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>>342174879
This map bothers me
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>>342176728
He needs to be fucking shot.
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>>342176902
Excuse you, I only take serious discussions on an anime image board for vidya.
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>>342174879
U fucked up Norway and Sweden, also Denmark doesnt exist?
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>>342174221
>they literally just got an random map from the web


Didn't obsidian do that for Yes Man's face? I'm pretty sure they did.-
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>>342177978
Pretty significant difference between those
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>>342178259
How so? Why is a random-ass map more acceptable to steal than the face of a central character in the main quest?
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>>342178313
because yes man's face doesn't contradict dozens of pieces of established lore
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>>342173590
>Poland having post-1945 Borders
>Czech and Slovakia are separate countries
>Africa LITERALLY merged together with Europe
>North Pole is missing
>Iceland isn't where it should be.
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>>342178313
Because the random ass map they stole doesn't even represent the game world. The face they used for Yes Man could be a face made in MS paint for all that matters since the face on a robot doesn't really matter to the setting at all
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I love the series but could care less about the "lore"
The Fallout universe is supposed to be the same as ours, except in a reality where the entire world was nuked to shit, but somehow we got talking animals, people with decomposing bodies living for over hundred of years and not eating anything, giant cockaroches and lizards, mini Hulks being mass produced by a guy fused with a computer, devices that makes you invisible and somehow you can find thousands of them everywhere, etc etc etc.

All that makes sense and is actually interesting are the Vault Experiments, thats it.
Everything else is fucking fantasy and has no realism.
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>>342178550
>>342178518
That's a fair point, but it's such a minor fucking issue, it's a fucking decorative texture. Way more productive to complain about Jet or refrigerators.
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>>342178763
Its just another straw on the camel's back
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>>342178695
There is a difference between realism and continuity anon.

The game is not realistic because of the things you listed but it is consistent with said things... until Bethesda Fallouts at least.
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>>342173590
I thought we knew that they didn't give a shit about the lore?

What about jet being used pre-war?
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>>342179554
What about vault 87 super mutants?
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>>342174428
some crazy architect German did and advocate his plan until his death in 52 it was called Atlantropa
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>>342173893
You do realize Fallout is like 2100 right? They just have a 50s aesthetic.
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>>342179890
2077
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>eritrea exists
Bethesda needs to die and never awaken.
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>>342180086
I think that anon meant the time the games take place, not the year the bombs fell.
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I mean, that could be an actualy cool setting.

The mediteran sea, completly vanished by a giant drought, the straight of Gibraltar blocked for some fucking reason, Spanish politicans went Trump and build a wall or some shit.

And now Europeans and africans waged war for the new land between them, and the possible resources that were burried under millions of litres.
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>>342178695
>The Fallout universe is supposed to be the same as ours
Was Fallout 4 the first/only Fallout you've ever played? I keep forgetting it's summer and all of the underage fags are here to pretend they know what they are talking about.
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>>342180553
I thought he meant before the bombs fell since the other anon was talking about the map.
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>>342174879
>Bethesda
>having a Fallout book of lore

HA
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>>342179554
It's still sad how much they regard consistency and detail as wasted effort.
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>>342181256
>I shouldn't say this
I can't shake the feeling that Avellone has a lot of pent-up resentment about SOMETHING internal in the vidjer industry.
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>>342180954
This. He was only off by 23 years anyway. Either way the maps don't really conflict with anything.
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>>342181256

This shouldn't be the least bit surprising considering Bethesda has been borrowing content and mechanics from their fan base since Morrowind.
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>>342181256
This might be stretching it, but I think he might have been talking about the Fallout bible.
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>>342175334
I'd love a Fallout game set in Japan. Since aesthetic style of Fallout in US is sort of pseudo-future and Mad Max, maybe Japan could have gone into different direction, with big cities having technology, while most of country is made of villages like what you'd see in 1800s.
The mountains and villages between them would lend themselves wonderfully to exploration style gameplay, and with the country being surrounded by irradiated sea pretty much seperated from rest of the world, you could also do some interesting pseudo-fantastical elements.
Maybe some people mutated to look like folk-lore creatures like kappa or tengu, and settlements would have to fear attacks of giant monsters that raise from sea or mountains?
American Fallout is all about high-tech, so it'd be interesting to adventure in lower one, with developing railways, etc. Lack of actual nuclear energy would also circumvent the stigma of presenting that in Japanese games.

But sadly that won't ever happen properly. Whenever developer tries to make a game about culture they're not familiar with, it just feels wrong, so you couldn't really have western developer handle it.
Similarly, Japan doesn't really have developers experienced in open-world RPGs, like what you'd expect of Fallout games. It's a shame, really.
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>>342180681
We do know there's human activity in that region of the world in the Fallout universe, but the likelihood we'll see a Fallout game outside of America is slim. Especially considering all of the metaphors they kind of hamfisted in to the series for so long.
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>>342181737
Damn, that actually sounds pretty cool
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>>342174879
>Argentina anexed Uruguay
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>>342182126
Oh no, it dosn't have to be in the Fallout Universe.

But it still would be a cool setting. Massive amount of land suddenly emerging from under the sea and having modern government fight over it.
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>>342181737
while not 1800s, villages in japan are pretty traditional in terms of architecture, while the big cities are huge
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>>342175137
what the fuck are you talking about? this map is made before the nuclear war, obviously.
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>>342175334
Think in all the schoolgirl themed armor,dude...THINK'BOUTEET
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>>342182210
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>>342176184

A lot of actual maps don't have the Azores either. I used to live there. I looked.

I kinda want to go back. It was my favorite place to live.
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Someone was using the paint bucket and missed a spot.

Big deal.
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>>342182210
>>342183648
É ke somo repisho,amigu !!!
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>>342182210
>Argentina

That's Brazil, my geographicaly confused friend
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>>342174879
>those borders
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>>342184236
shit thats true my bad, it's still shit
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The problem is not the seas it's the post Cold War borders, even reunified Germany and collapsed Yugoslavia. Somehow during decolonization all the African countries and south east Asia got the same borders too.
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>>342182210
Provincia rebelde de mierda
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>>342175328
>brazilian
>this anon is right
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>>342184559
Las malvinas siempre van a ser europeas y nunca lo vas a poder cambiar
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BETHESDA QUALITY
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>>342175952
>Spics
>interested in work

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>342173590
>NZ non fucking existent
Did we sink to the bottom of the Pacific again?
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>>342184878
what's the fov?
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>>342184878
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>>342184558

I don't think the Fallout Bible goes into too much detail about African borders. The timeline basically splits around 1970 from ours, and since most African borders we have today were around then, it makes sense to keep them how they are in real life.
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>>342185334
Fallout Bible isn't canon anymore

RIP
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>>342184983
Then what are they all doin outside of Home Depot?
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>>342185043
we don't impressive enough uranium deposits, we don't matter ;_;
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>>342185357
Me playing cs.
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>>342173590
>Hey guys let's modify the world map to subtly suggest land mass changes that may have possibly been cause by massive global warming/environmental problems. The game is set in the future after all.

joke goes over /v/'s head
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342184878
>Shooting the gun once uses 2 rounds of ammo
>To reload all you need to do is disconnect the magazine and then attach it again
Magic
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>>342176380

There are plenty of waters they messed up. Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Black Sea, Caspian Sea, Baltic Sea, Northern tip of Gulf of California, and probably some I'm missing. They literally clicked the Magic Wand tool in the ocean, hit delete and called it a day.
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>>342185423

Shit. Forgot about that.

o7
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>>342185669
>this is what bethdrones actually believe
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>>342185669
It'd help if they changed borders of the Mediterranean nations. I refuse to believe the Mediterranean sea became a nation state with all of its pre-existing borders still intact.
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>>342185423
Please tell me you're fucking joking
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>>342185982
https://twitter.com/chrisavellone/status/101700464676044800
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>>342185669
I doubt bethesda would go that extra mile
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>>342173832
Dunno if this has anything to do with anything but I've read that the Mediterranean Sea would dry up if the straight of Gibraltar closed up so maybe that happened? I don't know
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>>342185669
>Not realizing that if they tried to simulate global warming predicted sea rise a whole lot of coast areas across the world would be underwater yet aren't in that map
Bethdrones are the most pathetic drones
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>>342186081
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>>342186471
Oh shit I remember that video, the one with the dating gamers. Anyone know a link?
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>>342186219

Not him, but I can totally see Bethesda trying something subtle but fucking it up in the details like that.
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>>342173590
No they won't
I recall someone on twitter more or less telling a fan to fuck off when they pointed out Jet shouldn't be in that one vault with all the drugs in it.
They don't care.
Remember that, anons.
Remember that.
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>>342184878
Nah that fair you're not suposed to see the full animation and that could be a snwoflake weapons that shot twice
The lever rifle shit in way worse in every possible way it just shot that they don't give a shit
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>>342173590
Actually this makes a ~bit~ of sense, the Mediterranean was originally just a huge ass basin but the Gibraltar strait eventually erroded away and the Atlantic flowed in, filling it up.

No idea what forces could drain the Mediterranean but at least they seem to be referencing something.
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>>342187081
>No idea what forces could drain the Mediterranean

Evaporation is all it needs.If we cut off the Rock of Gibraltar and tossed it into the straight, it would plug the water flow and the sun takes care of the rest. There would still be some lakes where rivers empty in, but other than that it would turn into a salty desert.
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Fallout is a fucking travesty at this point, what else is new? Next they're going to suggest that the chinese are the GOOD guys.
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>>342174521
Globe for ants
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dont worry gang, fallout 5 will fix everything
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>>342187540

PREORDER NOW GODDAMN IT
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>>342187327
That would be a hell of an evaporation. And it receives rainwater+all the rivers that pour into it

Hell even the aral sea is still a thing despite the soviets literally diverting rivers away for irrigation projects and being in a fucking desert
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>>342187878

It wouldn't drain overnight and rivers/rain would ensure it's never completely empty, but it would end up a puddle compared to what it is now.
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>>342174879
>Brazil conquest Cisplatina and Paraguay

Nice :D
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>>342187375

To be fair, they never really said they were the "bad" guys. Shady shit was done on all sides and the result is humanity blew itself up.
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>>342188489
and Bolivia
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>>342174879
>GroßBrazil reclaims Uruguay and swallows BoliviANOs for some reason

>GroßUSA leaves Mexico Independant (NV mentioned invasion, or some kind of American presence, right?)

>Wales and Scotland are free
>Nor Iron is not

>GroßSA
>Literal tenth province is free.

>Sahara is one nation

>Eritrea

Hmm
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>>342188561
But anon Todd said Aliens did it, not the humans
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>>342185669
I thought that at first, bu the more I look at it, the more it looks like a fuck up.
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>>342182210
>>342183648
>>342184048
>>342184559
ese es "Brasil" anexando Uruguay giles no tienen primer grado de geografia
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>ALANTROPA

always believe in yourselves.
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>>342186081
>Chris Avellone is working on the Prey reboot

yo wat
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>>342187375
With the vault projects, FEV experiments, annexation of Canada and brutal suppression of the population, can we really say the US were good guys in all this?
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>>342173590
What the fuck is going on with Europe and Arabia.
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>>342178695

Its called Internal Consistency and even the most ridiculous fantasy settings and stories need it or things become extra fucky extra fast.

BethesdaFallouts do not have any sort of internal consistency in the slightest, they basically put in whatever they think will be cool or whatever they think "feels like Fallout" without actually ever knowing what that fucking meant to begin with.

Go fuck (You)rself.
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>>342174879
These same devs can't even keep their original TES lore straight or polished (prime example: Cyrodil), this shouldn't be surprising either.
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>>342190468
only reason I'm interested in it besides Arkane working on it
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>>342191489
>they basically put in whatever they think will be cool or whatever they think "feels like Fallout" without actually ever knowing what that fucking meant to begin with.
This is the worst part. The sheer halfassedness that permeates Fallout now. Its nothing but half baked ideas that get close to something approaching interesting, then they just completely drop the ball

Fuck.
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>>342175826
(You)
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Fallout universe did Atlantropa?
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>>342185357
>that empty round flying back into the gun during the slomo part
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>>342173590
>CURRENT YEAR
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>>342173590
>Bethesda will defend this
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>>342176365
oh man i love Pete Hines
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>>342173590
I can be bothered to read this map but if south sudan is on there I would lose my shit
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>>342174879
did best korea reclaim its rightful clay?
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>>342173590
So whats the new country between Finland and Sweden?
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>>342194469
maybe they would've been able to program ladders in if they stopped using fucking Gamebryo and quit hiring nothing but clueless interns.
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>>342195114
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>>342185268
stop
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>>342194619
christ I didn't remember it being quite that bad
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>>342173590
Bethesda's response to everything: We just want the players to roleplay however they want.

TRANSLATION: We want to force the players to come up with their own fan theories and headcanon so we purposely do not explain anything.
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forgot my pic
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Man, what the fuck happened to Bethesda after Skyrim?

I mean, Skyrim wasn't an amazing game, but at least Bethesda tried. Fallout 4 is just so fucking half assed, it's like Bethesda wanted to make a game but couldn't be bothered to do it properly.

All these issues posted aren't just quality issues, they're also issues with Bethesda being lazy.

Bethesda needs one of their big games to flop sometime soon. They've gotten so full of themselves and their success they don't even try anymore.
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>>342195673
kind of reminds me of the interview of the Bioshock Infinite writer who said who made the plot centered around parallel universes because it makes him feel stupid.
Its like the modern video games industry is run by monkeys or some shit.
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>>342173590
Its not because of the "scarcity of resources" that started the war or anything. You know, draining fresh water resources will do that for you.
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>>342195940
>after Skyrim
>Skyrim wasn't an amazing game, but at least Bethesda tried
jesus christ
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>>342195940

Except Fallout 3 was really no different at all from 4.

Sure 4 is worse in a lot of ways, but 3 was terrible in tons of its own ways as well.
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>>342196020
>Mediterranean
>fresh water
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>>342195940
>Bethesda needs one of their big games to flop sometime soon
Will never happen.
They could release a game that was just a slideshow of Todd Howard skinny dipping in a swimming pool full of money and people would still buy it because of brand recognition alone.
Bethesda has normalfags by the balls.
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They decided they could get away with less
Just toss abunch of procedural generation to fill any sort of need to add any cool loot that would value exploration.
Instead they make it so that exploration is only worth doing for killing things.to get better things.
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>>342196078
You are wrong
3 had way more rpg elements that made the game somewhat enjoyable
Perks and skills to make a proper build.
Unique perks that added fun to the game.
actual reason for exploration but instead we got >>342196241
what he said
procedural generation on weapons
procedural generation on enemies
literally decided to throw away the lore. at least 3s worst offence was reusing lore elements to fit the game to what they want

Oh and hey insead of actual good dialog writing we decided to add a voice so that almost all the dialog leads to the same outcome.

The only reason why i like 4 is because it makes 3 look alot better.
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>>342195673
well he's right

theres a lot of dialog you want to skip

not because it's long but because it's trash
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>>342185423
>>342185982
Fallout Bible wasn't considered cannon by Black Isle/Obisidian for a long time. They even mentioned in every issue that most of the stuff were subject to change or rough drafts.
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>>342175992
The EU kinda got fractured after they got kicked by the Soviets in the middle east.
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>>342196078
3 was actually way better. 4 is just so fucking stupid and lazy its unforgivable, whats worst is 4 made shadmans art popular, at least skyrim is comfy.
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>Border lines between canada and america
>European Commonwealth has borders

I expected nothing less from Bethesda.
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>>342195225
Honstly people shit on this all the time but it's not a bad solution to something that came up in a dlc.
You can't rewrite the whole engine so you work with what you have.

They should have fixed in by the next game though. This type of shit should just a bandaid.
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>>342173903
also the Red Sea and the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea and the gulf
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>>342184878
They can get away with this because the original game wasn't meant to have a fov that high. Lazy? Sure, but it seems pointless animating your character grabbing a fresh magazine in first person, particularly when 90% of it is off screen. Copy/paste assets are a much worse offender in comparison
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What if we just take the Mediterranean sea and PUSH it somewhere else?
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Could be an old globe, like how many people today still have globes from when the USSR and Rhodesia were still a thing.
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>>342199924
okay i laughed
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>>342181737
>you have to fight godzilla
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this is what pre-war FO actually looked like
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>>342194619
Jesus christ.

I remember being happy I could use a speech check there.

I guess I still am, but fucking. That writing.

>Don't do things, they are bad!
>Nah I want to do things. What do you suggest we do instead?
>I don't know, things are bad though. Kill yourself.
>Okay
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>>342202739
China annexed some of it's neighbours though
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>>342173590
Doesnt matter, fallout lore was fucked since day 1 when they took the 50s vibe. It wasnt logical to start and stuck with that style. They just salty for wasteland 90s then try to pull the lore closer to 90s in fo2 and tactics and BoS, trying to unfuck it.
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>>342199730
Dont bother man, it sucks to know people who share views with you are retarded at times huh ?

Stay unbiased, else join them.
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FIRST OF ALL, WE ALREADY SAW THAT THE MEDITERRANEAN IS FILLED. WTF. BUT ALSO, THE MAP ISN'T EVEN LORE FRIENDLY. JUST TO POINT OUT ONE MISTAKE, EVERYONE KNOWS THE US ANNEXED CANADA BEFORE THE WAR. REEEEE
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>>342175952
>muh assimilation is desireable
>muh integration is desireable
Spot the white guy who hasn't understood that we're under threat of racial extinction. Episode 736361827373389222
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>>342194619
Remember in Fallout New Vegas when you convince Legate Lanius that his empire he inherited for Caesar would fall apart? Way cooler than this bullshit.
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>>342173590
Isn't that supposed to be a pre-war map?
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>>342205293
Oh wait, I didn't see the Mediterranean.
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>>342202739
Close, this is the world as it stood pre Fallout 4, not sure how it toyed with the canon in this regard.
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>>342176728
>consistency=realism

aw fuck me

Ghouls have been shown explicitly TO EAT BEFORE! There's a fucking Ghoul trapped by the nightkin at the rocket test lab basement in New vegas who explicitly talks about hunting radroaches for food for christ's sakes.

Of all the dumb retocons to make, why this one? To rationalize literally the stupidest quest ever put in a modern video game,where a little ghoul boy is unnoticed for all his screaming and banging in a fridge for 200 years and emerges, not as a screaming lunatic from the centuries of isolation, but as a aw shucks kiddo eager to rejoin his mom and dad, who live right next door?

fuck that shit. I don't hate fallout 4, but Bethesda need, NEED new blood in the writing department.
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>>342206471
please tell me this isn't an actual quest
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>>342175136
how could you forget 911
turn in your gun and your burger
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>>342206989
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Kid_in_a_Fridge

brace yourself, it's bad.
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>>342207134
jesus christ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8bx3mTfj2M
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>>342207828
>first thing billy does after being saved is complain
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>>342206989
There are multiple times bethesda pulled "LOL THEY ARE A GHOUL NOW" in Fo4.

Kid in a Fridge, the fucking Vault-Tec Salesmen, some bitch who apparently turned into a ghoul (PRE-WAR) within months of treating herself with radiation while testing Rad-X

I didn't finish Nick Valentines quest, but I assume the evil mob boss he was worried about is also a ghoul. Or an android somehow. Who fucking cares.
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>>342195673
People like this shouldn't be making RPGs if they think this. They should be making cell phone games.

>>342196723
>He's right.
No, he's not.
>There's a lot of dialogue you want to skip.
So all of the dialogue has to suffer because of some A.D.D. ridden fucktard needs to get back to the action as soon as possible? Now this is trash.
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>>342210402
>evil mob boss is a ghoul.
You're right about that.

>>342207134
>Quality Bethesda writing.
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>>342210749
>>evil mob boss is a ghoul.
>You're right about that.
So fucking predictable. Nick and somehow fucking Kellogg were the closest Bethesda came to real characters, and they couldn't even pull that off.
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>>342173893
The line between the US and Canada shouldn't exist either.
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>>342187424
it's not even round

>current year
>can't make a fucking sphere
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>>342207134
never saw this quest, good thing i didn't.
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>>342210882
>Kellogg's Cornflakes
I could not not think about every time his name came up.
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>>342207828
do ghouls not age?
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>>342212281
Nah, they don't. They usually have a hard time hanging onto old memories though. Some pre-war ghouls have completely forgotten they were ever normal humans, IIRC.
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>>342212357
so that kid ghoul is gonna be a kid forever? sounds like a good deal
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>>342207828
Oh that fucking voice acting.

I don't know if that's a real kid who did the lines, but it's fucking shit.
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>tweet this to Pete
>IT'S A JUST A GAME YOU NERD
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>>342212695
I'd want to die if I had a kid brain my whole life.

Then again, I wouldn't know what I was missing, right? I might also be happier. Or like, still feel things at all.
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>>342213162
NORMALS?!

Fuck I loved the master. Favorite villain of all time, and I'm not even a nostalgia fag.
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>>342185357
>morrowind_combat.webm
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>>342214639
>thoughts of nam
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