>Need a fucking NASA supercomputer to run Snake Eater smoothly
>PS2 did it perfectly twelve years ago
>>342162718
Emulating MGS3 is the only way to play it at 1080p with silky smooth 60fps. Even the remaster is only 720p with drops below 60.
>>342163667
And you need a top of the line PC to do that. Meanwhile the PS2 and PS3 run the game well.
>>342164025
Not really a top of the line pc so much as just a modern-ish cpu.
>>342162718
>"I have no clue how emulation works" the post
>>342163667
Ermmm the way Snake is breathing and moving so fast = a problem with the "better performance" running specs with a lot of emulated games, unfortunately.
>Consolefags think you need a supercomputer to emulate PS2 when a good gaming PC for today's games will do it fine
>Consolefags will never know the joy of PC backwards compatibility where I can play games that came out 25 years ago no problem meanwhile PS4 can't even play PS3 games without buying it again as a remake
>>342164775
>Clearly never tried emulating MGS3
>How can PCucks even compete?
By having a job and money, unlike consolekids who have to rely on their parents buying stuff.
>>342165020
This is funny because every pc masterrace cunt bag I know lives off their parents money.
>>342164025
That webm is like 2-3 years old.
PS2 runs the game at 20fps, PS3 runs it at 40fps.
>>342164437
It has the game's frame rate unlocked, it's sped up to show off the performance of the game.
>>342165820
That's because you're still in high school.
Hardware rendering removes the game's post processing effects. Software rendering doesn't but looks like shit.
Maybe some day we'll be able to get the best of both worlds.
>>342166212
Nice try, I'm in my mid 20s. I guess it's because most people with jobs don't have hours to waste dealing with pc bullshit.
>>342166395
your teacher called and said you are not supposed to bring your gameboy young man
>>342166357
>Hardware rendering removes the game's post processing effects.
That has been fixed for a while.
>>342166395
>hours to waste dealing with pc bullshit
Gitgud.
>NASA supercomputer
Fuck, my 6 year old budget laptop can handle PS2 emulation fine.
Consoletards really suck at buying computers, just upgrade your shit once per decade and you'll be fine, or don't but then stop bitching about poor performance, retard.
>>342166740
Holy shit, thanks anon. I guess my pcsx2 is outdated.
I'll download the most recent version.
>>342167319
>they finally made it possible to get rid of the psx jitter
Consolecuks on suicide watch.
>>342167436
set crc to partial
okami, ico(kind of), and some other games were fixed too.
>>342167658
Is this game any good or is it just a pretentious artsy "game" like that game where you wander around the desert wearing a gay scarf.
>>342167658
Sweet. Will do.
>>342167295
Yeah sure, if all you play is Final Fantasy.
>>342164025
>top of the line
Do you use a fucking dual core?
Emulation is about CPU, not GPU. You can have a gtx980, if your processor is shit, it will still runs terrible.
Even a fucking FX6300 can do the job.
>>342167809
>where you wander around the desert wearing a gay scarf.
Which game is that? Journey?
Ico is good because it'sartsyin that is has good mechanics, music, and top quality AI. It's immersive and pretty cool. It's a good escort sim
It is in NO way pretentious though. That's the fanbase.
>>342164025
I can run MGS3 with a $140 AMD cpu
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>>342167996
>2500k
Retard.
>>342167530
>>342163667
>Emulating MGS3 is the only way to play it at 1080p
So low res textures meant for 480p upscaled to 1080 and buggy gameplay on account of the speed being tied to the framerate?
No one in this thread understands how graphics work.
>>342168282
Well I guess I'll be playing it through then.
Apparently it's really short too so there is nothing to lose.
>>342168509
>No one in this thread understands how graphics work.
Says the guy who doesn't understand what aliasing is.
>speed being tied to the framerate
What.
>>342167996
Learn to proper configure it, dude. I play it with a CPU weaker than yours with better performance.
Casuals should not even touch the masterrace. You guys are too dumb for it.
>>342168509
Emulators have texture filters, shader tricks and other shit that makes the games look fucking insane.
As for the framerate being tied to logic ticks, it's REALLY rare, I have never found a PS2 game that had a problem with that.
>>342168509
>speed is tied to the framerate
Fuck off retard.
>>342168752
>Apparently it's really short too so there is nothing to lose.
Exactly right.
>>342168784
You're cute anon
>>342168784
There's nothing to configure, underclocking the EE/VU causes glitches, inaccurate FPS readings (so no, you're not actually getting the performance you think you're getting) and since you're actually underclocking the emulated console the game will run worse than it did on an actual PS2.
>>342166395
The whole acting-cooler-than-you-while-chatting-with-you-on-an-internet-forum thing has never really worked.
>>342168509
Not every game has shit developers like from soft that tie every piece of gameplay to framerate. That shit was very rare in the ps2 era.
>>342169216
What glitches does that introduce? I was told it's handy for emulating Ratchet games since they're so demanding.
Overclocking the EE will allow 60fps in at least SOTC and increasing the VU will increase your performance in that game too, most of the time. And it boosts FPS in some other games too.
He was probably talking about MTVU though, you should have that activated.
>>342168509
>buggy gameplay on account of the speed being tied to the framerate?
This is a sloppy coding technique that no one should be using. It apparently caught on in Japan years ago because they're used to developing for prebuilt machines (i.e. consoles, early PCs, and arcade machines) where frame-rates would usually be uniform among users.
>>342169216
Most emulators have big buttons somewhere in the settings that say "FAST" and "NICE", just click the fast button and it applies a preset that disables all the extra jinx without touching the advanced settings that cause glitches and a risk of crashing.
2500K is a pretty bad CPU and it's one of the most overpriced things you'll ever find, Intel has a ton of processors that are 1/3 the price with far superior performance.
Next time you buy a PC you should google a guide or something.
>>342168758
Aliasing sharpens polygons, not textures.
>>342168902
>Emulators have texture filters, shader tricks and other shit that makes the games look fucking insane.
Literally polishing a turd. A blurry texture won't magically look better than one
meant for a native higher resolution.
>>342169045
Fuck on.
![[Asenshi] Flying Witch - 02 [DC099B11].mkv_snapshot_20.36_[2016.06.10_02.52.47].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MC1C7v1.jpg "[Asenshi] Flying Witch - 02 [DC099B11].mkv_snapshot_20.36_[2016.06.10_02.52.47].jpg")
I'd rather play something, like an actual game, than watch a bad movie.
>>342170295
>Aliasing sharpens
It's time to stop posting.
>>342169774
>What glitches does that introduce?
On MGS3 garbage corrupted textures will flash on screen occasionally. When you dive underwater and surface, there will be corrupted textures in the shape of the water droplets that should be on the screen. And probably other stuff.
>Overclocking the EE will allow 60fps in at least SOTC
Doubtfully since the game is framelocked to 30 FPS. Also just FYI, the FPS readings in PCSX2 and most emulators are actually VPS (Vblanks Per Second) or in other words the screen refresh frequency. It will always be 50 for PAL games and 60 for NTSC independently of what framerate the actual game runs at. Fraps will also report VPS, not the game's internal framerate.
>increasing the VU will increase your performance in that game too, most of the time.
I think you mean decreasing it, and yes it makes the emulated console weaker and therefore less demanding to run, but it also means that apart from the possible glitches the games will actually run slower than they did on the real console.
>He was probably talking about MTVU though, you should have that activated.
That doesn't always increase FPS, it's on a case-by-case basis.
>>342170136
2500k was a fine CPU and you don't know what you are talking about.
>>342162718
It ran fine for me in all gameplay sections besides one or two cutscenes. Hard to complain, really.
>>342170295
>Aliasing sharpens polygons, not textures.
What the fuck am I reading?
>meant for a native higher resolution.
This guy is completely illiterate
>>342170621
I see. I just use default settings + MTVU for MGS3.
>Doubtfully
No, I'm telling you a fact. The game runs at 60fps with EE overclocked.
>I think you mean decreasing it, and yes it makes the emulated console weaker and therefore less demanding to run, but it also means that apart from the possible glitches the games will actually run slower than they did on the real console.
VU is default at 0, so increasing it. I don't really understand what it does but it gives a huge boost to SOTC which is very hard to run at solid 60fps with an OC'd EE. It's not consisten though I can notice frame drops. It's better though.
>That doesn't always increase FPS, it's on a case-by-case basis.
It always increases FPS for me and it's very essential for MGS3.
>>342170664
Yeah it was a fine CPU, except for the fact where it can't even emulate PS2 games and costs 100$ more than what it's actually worth.
>konami is run by yakuza faggots that hate games
>we'll never get silent hill 1-4 or metal gear 1-4 on pc because of this
>>342170664
>>342170948
The 2500k was so popular in its day because it was able to OC into the moon thus being able to emulate most games full speed. It was also the CPU that was top of the line for normal games, and only in the past year did games start using CPUs better therefore invalidating it's prowess.
>>342162718
>perfectly
>ps2 runs at 15 fps
>vita and ps3 versions run at 25
Ok
>>342171118
Bought 4670k for cheaper and I can emulate PS2@4K without problems.
Git gud.
>>342162718
splinter cell and hitman are better desu
How does it feel, PCucks, knowing you have to beg and emulate for good games? And even then, you fags STILL don't have a stable N64 emulator.
>>342171537
>Dead Franchise and Episodic gaming are better than beloved franchise
>>342171696
>you fags STILL don't have a stable N64 emulator
We do, sounds like we found another person with a 15 year old 200$ computer.
Stay mad.
>>342170919
>No, I'm telling you a fact. The game runs at 60fps with EE overclocked.
And I'm telling you I know for a fact it doesn't. Do prove me wrong though, without using the FPS counter in PCSX2 which as I explained does not measure actual FPS but VPS.
>VU is default at 0, so increasing it.
It depends on how you see it. "Increasing" the setting decreases the frequency of the VUs.
>It always increases FPS for me and it's very essential for MGS3.
Well it doesn't for me. Can't notice an increase in FPS on the areas I've tested and in fact decreases performance when using SW rendering and 3 cores, probably because it results in the GS plugin and the MTVU fighting over one core.
>>342170621
You are a retard and don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason he said overclocking EE. That means it will actually run at 60 fps.
>>342171523
How the fuck can you buy a 4670k when the 2500k came out you fucking daft cunt?
>hurr it's a shit cpu becuase my CPU from years later is better
>>342171769
mgs is a dead franchise
Does Persona 4 run at 30 or 60 fps on pcsx2?
Quiet is a PCuck
>>342172007
>buying a CPU day1
You dumb.
Btw 2500k is STILL more expensive than 4670k to lure consoletards such as yourself in.
Git gud.
>>342172024
DON'T REMIND ME
>>342172178
Because old hardware is no longer produced.
Also nice backtracking retard. You still are not showing me a better deal.
>Consoletards like you
My CPU is better than yours, I have a 4790k.
>>342171871
I'm not lying to you anon.
>It depends on how you see it. "Increasing" the setting decreases the frequency of the VUs.
Yeah I know what you're saying.
>Well it doesn't for me.
That's weird but why aren't you playing in HW?
>>342171828
Then show me a youtube video, that isn't cut, showing gameplay footage with
>Good quality sound/music
>No choppy FPS
>No video glitches
And also, must be one of the pokemon stadium game.
>>342172079
30fps
all the SMT3 engine games are capped at 30fps
framerate is also tied to game speed, so uncapping it just speeds up the game
This is some shit tier bate
I was running this at 60fps on a 400$ right two months ago
Fuck off sonygger
>>342172438
Ain't gonna show you shit, I just played through Ocarina and Majora and they literally played like the real deal except with higher resolution, not a single glitch or crash and the fps was solid.
Your computer is shit, deal with it.
>>342164025
>Meanwhile the PS2...run the game well
>>342172178
The only time you should be buying an Intel processor is when it's the newest generation. There is rarely ever a good reason to buy a previous generation processor because even if you can find the processor itself for cheap the motherboards will be expensive because they are 1. no longer in production and 2. much less durable than the CPUs are you get an overabundance of used CPUs compared to used motherboards that can fit the thing.
>not emulating at the game's original aspect ratio
Faggots the lot of ye
>>342172816
>wants to stare at black bars
>>342172643
>Ain't gonna show you shit
Because you can't
>>342172928
do you stare at your monitor's bezel, too?
>>342172957
>too lazy to do a Youtube search
Stay mad.
>>342173007
no, I stare at your mother's navel
Paz is Venoms only shawty
Venom is Quiets shawty
>>342172336
That webm is excellent proof that the game doesn't run at 60 FPS. Open it with any movie player that supports advancing in 1 frame increments and see how many dupe frames there are. Almost every other frame is duplicate, and in quite a few cases there's 3 or even 4 dupe frames in a row, so the game isn't even solid 30.
>>342173007
No because I stretch to fit while you are there staring at black bars and bezel like the sad person you are.
>>342172957
He can't, but take a look here https://youtu.be/anr6wG3pa_s
>>342173298
Or you could just look at it and immediately realize it's 30 fps.
I think the webm wasn't suppose to be a demonstration of 60 fps.
>>342173319
You can't joke about that man. There are millions of people who genuinely believe that and can't tell the difference between a circle and an oval.
>>342173319
(You)
>>342163667
Please tell me how I can do this, I'm sick of playing the game on my PS Vita with its shitty analog sticks.
>>342162718
>PS3 cfwfag
>emulate PS2 games perfectly
>still have a PC for better gaming options
I'm sorry I'm not a faggot OP.
>>342173336
That's not real, fuck you stop shit posting.
This thread made me realize that it's not longer 2011+1 and I can probably emulate a lot of shit now. I'm downloading Ico and SotC, what else should I get? I've played MGS, Jak/Sly/Ratchet, God Hand, Ape Escape, Katamari, Okami, etc
>>342165020
>Every PC thread ever
>m-muh gtx 580 is still good you guys
>m-m-maybe I'll be able to get the RX480 sometime this year
>lol PSPlus my parents would never pay for that
Top cuck
t. PC Player
>>342174210
Persona and Kingdom Hearts.
>>342173973
It's real, even a fucking smartphone can run the game the same way, fuck off retard
>>342174292
I don't like JRPG but I've played KHFM and 2FM.
>>342173570
??
>>342175142
I want to emulate MGS3 on my PC.
>>342162718
r7 amd card or a 750ti for gpu
an intel i3 cpu because fuck amd cpus
not exactly a NASA supercomputer
>>342175142
>??
Settings, anon, give us those marvellous settings.
>>342175606
>>342176191
I just enable mtvu and play in opengl with partial CRC
get the newest possible svn
>>342175142
what are your fucking specs if you say fx 6300 is your cpu i'm going to scream into a pillow
>>342176553
3770
>>342162718
>>342163667
Fuck I miss MGS3. Is it worth it to get the 3DS version?
>>342164025
>well
Goalpost moving shit-eater. If you are willing to compromise "perfectly" back into "well" territory, then you don't need a top of the line PC.
>>342176553
>Tfw AMD-chan blew your PSU and set your house on fire
thanks Amada
>>342173336
>That framerate
>Those glitches
That, fuck that, i'll take my actual, physical N64 thank you very much.
>>342176834
Fuck no, it runs and looks like complete shit.
t. 3DS owner who got cucked by MGS3D
>>342163667
Disgusting. Like watching a movie at 1.5x
>>342170664
>>342170948
>>342171118
>>342171523
>implying the 2500k is a bad CPU
Are you idiots for reals? the 2500k is STILL overkill for all games, especially a ps2 emulator. My ancient q6600 could run the ps2 emulator at 1600x900, and my 3570k (HARDLY BETTER, LITERALLY 1% DIFFERENCE) can run my ps2 emulator at 1080p with every single graphics setting turned on and it still uses only a fraction of what my CPU is capable of. What the fuck am I reading?
>PS2 was released 16 years ago
>Emulators for it are still decent at best
damn...
>>342172724
yea but...cmon..pc master race
What a thrill
>>342177174
2500k isn't overkill anymore, it will bottleneck modern GPUs on lots of modern games. It's not unusable nowadays, but even a skylake i3 will beat it in games.
>>342177174
>2500k is STILL overkill for all games
Living under a rock eh?
Try playing Metro or something even remotely modern at ultra.
>>342177174
>Are you idiots for reals?
well you're on /v/
sandy bridge is to intel what the 7970 is to amd, but they don't know that
>>342176967
> that framerate
> it's fucking better than my baby toy
Have fun anon, if you can
>>342174678
>>342175142
>>342174210
Any updated guide out there? I want to start emulating PS2 games since i got a better computer now.
>>342174210
Don't bother with Jak and possibly not Ratchet. They emulate poorly.
Jak is just broke.
>>342164775
>Consolefags will never know the joy of PC backwards compatibility where I can play games that came out 25 years ago no problem meanwhile PS4 can't even play PS3 games without buying it again as a remake
>Find Doom 3 at garage sale for a dollar
>Put the 5 CDs of that shit in to install it
>Add a config file to the install folder
>Play the game at 1440p which wasn't even a thing in 2004 when it came out
>>342177610
i can play metro on very high with my laptop that cost less than a grand. 2500k is overkill when you can build a awesome rig yourself for half that.
>>342178969
Stop lying on an anonymous image board.
>>342168425
2500k was the best value buy when it came out ididot
consolefags have been acting like children over the past few months
do you guys need a spanking?
>>342179546
Cut them some slack, E3 was quite rough for them, still no games on the horizon for Xbone/PS4.
>>342170136
>2500K is a pretty bad CPU and it's one of the most overpriced things you'll ever find
Idiot spotted
>>342179768
You spotted yourself?
>>342179972
t.idiot who makes up shit about processors
>>342180091
t.idiot
>PS3 runs games at 30FPS with only 512MB RAM and 256MB VRAM
>PC struggles to run those same exact games at 30FPS with 4GB RAM and 2GB VRAM
PC """"""""""Master Race,"""""""""" everyone.
>>342180091
>2500k overpriced and not very good
>>342172481
What a pity. But I guess it'll have to do, then.
Thanks.
>>342173319
You don't need to stretch, anon.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PCSX2-Widescreen-Game-Patches?pid=271674#pid271674
>>342170136
>2500K is a pretty bad CPU
Do you have one single fact to back that up?
>>342178123
Not really much to it. It's pretty good to go just from installing. Just get whatever bios and plugin files you need, set up a gamepad in config>controllers>plugin settings>pad1, look through config>video (gs)>plugin settings and play around to find what runs well for you (pic related is my setup on a 7 year old i7 920 and gtx 970). Doesn't hurt to look at emulation settings>game fixes to see if you need any for the games you want to run, but otherwise you select an ISO from the CDVD menu and boot it up from the SYSTEM menu. Any issues after that can be resolved with a google search.
>>342181815
Can't emulate PS2. Meanwhile you can do that with a 20$ smart phone.
>>342171696
No one have a good N64 emulator.
Even Virtual console fails at basic shit like the mario 64 vanish cap effect.
The only way to actually emulate the N64 with any degree of accuracy is to use those software plugins from mad/bat/hatcat, and they need a very powerful computer to do it.
Actually, most nintendo 64 emulators are just half nintendo 64 emulators.
>>342162718
thats why ps2/snes is the true master race
>>342182237
Except it can emulate ps2 games
>>342172336
As someone who's terrified of murky water this triggers the shit out of me.
>>342182683
This thread exists because a person with 2500k can't emulate PS2 games.
Read the thread before shit posting.
Do the PS2 Ace Combat games run in Hardware mode without any bugs whatsoever yet?
>>342182928
Ps2 emulation is far from perfect and the processor is not to blame. It doesn't run any better on a phone
>>342183025
No and its going to be a long time before they do
>it's a retards don't understand emulation thread
>>342183939
what is that dog up to?
>>342185172
Reading "2500k was a bad processor"
