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>70 days
They dumbed down the game because the morons are the only ones still playing.
>>342131438
hey buddy fuck you
>Neo-WoW
Kek
>>342131117
>still play wow
killing yourself is an option you know?
>>342131438
This. Downloaded the PTR and it seems like the game is being designed by old farts who can't remember keybinds.
I had 45 keybinds in wrath as a hunter in PvP. Legion feels like a moba in it's simplicity.
>>342133694
you think mobas would be better with 45 buttons to press?
no
>>342133694
The difference with legion is that you actually play BM different from MM and SV now. I have an irrational hate of skill/trait pruning, but it looks like Blizzard is actually doing at least this part right.
>>342134080
>I have an irrational hate of skill/trait pruning
It's not irrational, though (unless you consider additions that make classes the same, like everyone getting interrupts and CC and self-healers and whatever).
>>342131438
They've been doing that for a decade though.
>>342131117
Thrall Cheated during Mak'Gora. He is no better then Gul'dan.
>>342135279
good thing there were no witnesses :^)
>>342133824
WoW isnt a moba retard.
>>342135879
in what ways is it not a moba
>>342135718
The elements were witnesses.
That's why the elements won't answer to his call anymore and he gives up the Doomhammer
>>342136219
I actually really hope that's canon
>>342133694
Can you tell me those 45 keybinds, anon? Surely you remember and used all of them. It's not like you are lying or anything.
>>342136314
Have I got some good news for you
How are DH? literally the only reason I wanna come back.
>>342137301
Pretty kewl xd
>>342136356
>Can you tell me those 45 keybinds, anon?
You're not even a wrathbaby. When did you start playing?
>>342138443
fuk u
>>342136356
>>342138443
Actually i was lowballing it. The keybinds you see here haven't changed since wrath.
The bars were full and i couldn't even dream of putting ench/engi or disenchanting on them. 53 keybinds full of hunter abilities/macros not counting pet management which adds another 4 or 5 depending on what pet you had.
Compared to that, Legion is a joke.
>>342140526
>uses 1,2,3 for active spells.
>can appreciate old WoW's charm and hope Blizzard will bring the legacy servers for Vanilla so people would finally shut the fuck up and be able to actually play the game they love again
>love current unironically and what Legion is bringing to the table
>enjoy the game regardless
That said, I really do want Legacy Servers to come live so people can finally go back to the days. At first I just wanted people to leave the live players alone, but now I just feel bad for them after the whole Nostalrius affair. There's a way both parties can be happy here. I just hope Blizzard is willing to put forth the effort in doing it, so there doesn't have to be such widespread shitposting and falseflagging anymore.
Survival Hunter is going to be great. Can't wait.
>>342140978
They were used for hunter stings before they removed them, and by the time they got removed i got used to other binds for attacks.
The stings looked cool aligned from 1 to 3.
>>342131438
DELETE THIS
>>342141365
I envy you as I'd much rather replay Vanilla, especially since I was one of those guys who barely touched the raid content.
Then again, I'm the same when it comes to RE games (excluding evident crap like ORC). Feels good being able to enjoy them all while watching both parties get mad.
>>342141365
I wish I could enjoy the game like that, Cata made me bitter.
>>342135279
>Thrall tries to do some Mary Sue shit by cheating in Mak´Gora
>gets BTFO by the elements
>loses powers
Is this the end of Orc Jesus?
>>342142673
>>342143132
Honestly, all it takes is to simply sit back and just let it ride. See the new, smaller things and appreciate them. Like how in the PTR right now, capes no longer clip through the body or weapons. Shoulders can be hidden now! The new invasions are pretty nice, and you get much more EXP killing enemies than normal due to the inability to quest. The scaling between the demons from a level 12 perspective and a level 100 perspective is new to me (It's quite different from GW2), and it was really cool how I felt I was able to genuinely help max level players.
The not!baleful gear you can get from invasions scale to your level, so you can get a really cool mog ready as early as level 10. That's fantastic, honestly! It adds a lot of options to you more than the low rez old textures.
(cont)
>>342143783
In WoW at least. I'm guessing Metzen migrated to Overwatch.
>>342141365
>what Legion is bringing to the table
What are they bringing?
I know theres the class weapons, class halls, transmog change and the demon hunter.
What else are they doing?
>movie isn't based on vanilla
>>342144001
The 'pruning' is honestly a bit of a misnomer. Pruning is just plain removing abilities. What they've done is reworked the classes to have better mechanics (This is entirely subjective, some are fundamentally flawed like Outlaw). There aren't as many skills as before--this is true. However! The skills that remain have a lot more impact and meaning towards the spec. Not only this, but leveling no longer feels like I'm missing out on what my spec is capable of. No longer am I going to have to wait until 80+ to really benefit from a level 75 talent, or to really feel like I'm getting the hang of it. I can learn the class as early as 54, more or less, which means I can focus on the content from BC and beyond without feeling particularly rushed.
The rares give much, MUCH more experience when you kill them than before. It adds fun options to leveling other than "spam quests" and "spam dungeon queues". Also, heirloom-less play can be tough at first. That is good!
>>342144353
Now, I'm not being a shill. If current content is not your thing, then for the love of God, don't play. Don't ever feel pressured to play, and don't listen to anyone who invalidates your opinions and experiences while encouraging you to play current. If you don't like it, you don't have to like it. This is why I have so much hope in Legacy Servers--people will no longer have to deal with that nonsense.
I take in the little things, and I come from the ass end of Wrath. I miss tough Heroics from early Cata. I miss a lot of the older stuff. But the new stuff is really cool from a non-critical perspective, in my opinion. That's how I'm able to enjoy it.
>>342140526
>no arcane shot
what the fuck. how long was this a thing
When does the world event start for prelegion?
>>342131438
Perhaps the same could be said of all video games....
>>342144293
>movie is called warcraft, not world of warcraft
im pretty sure you are baitiing but its hard to tell when over half of you are legally retarded
>>342144353
personally the legendary world drops are why I refuse to play or buy legion. i find them completely indefensible.
>>342144682
MM lost arcane in WoD.
>>342145302
And that's fair! That's a totally valid complaint to have. I somewhat agree. I honestly wish we could go a few expansions without any new legendaries,as they always are the outlier that everything gets tuned around.
Reminder, they have talked about a ship expansion for years, but the lead designers have decided against it essentially because it would require them to work hard.
Is there any denying the WoW team is the equivalent of the graveyard shift for Blizzard employees? They go there either because they are shit (Jay Wilson), or because they just don't want to work. It's a real shame, because if they managed the game right they would be making much more money than a crappy cash shop perpetuated by a dwindling consumer base ever would.
>>342145302
I like them. Even though my luck is horrid and probably won't get any, or will get a boring one.
>>342145734
There's also the problem that underwater controls are ass
>>342145734
Correct. The A team went over to work on Titan
From playing on the PTR, I've a few things to comment on how I feel classes I've dueled play:
>Discipline Priest
While the damage is on the lower side for a DPS, their sustainability is absolutely nonsense. I shouldn't have to rely solely on Shadow Mend as my primary heal to go from 0-100% in 4 seconds. The balance in shield mechanics feels great now though otherwise.
>Combat Rogue
Looks extremely fun with a diverse new kit. Unfortunately it does seem to lack the punching power the other Rogues have of 5-second stun after 5-second stun after 5-second stun.
>Feral Druid
Far too dependent on their opener. If you can survive the initial attack, they're too squishy and deal too low damage to be as much a threat as other classes.
>Warrior
As a whole, the class feels a lot stronger now. I feel like it's a bug, but I was Shield Slammed for 287,000 damage, instantly killing me. Even that aside, their tankiness is still great and their damage output has been phenomenally boosted. Hopefully they feel as fun to play as they hit hard.
>Hunter
Beast Mastery looks and feels neutered in comparison to Survival and Marksmanship; MM can now be as mobile as ever while raining a hail of damage at a distance, just as the name implies, and Survival finally has the melee-distance fighting its always wanted, enabling it to do some pretty slick damage and pretend to be the warrior for a change. Both look extremely fun and seem viable DPS but the BM needs severe fixing in my opinion.
>Shaman, Paladin and Mage
Too weak. Needs major buffing. I like the Paladin's ability charge on a horse now though. One thing to comment on is that I love Frost Mage's new mechanics now, especially now that they've some crazy burst damage.
>Monk
All classes now have heightened sustainability. It's neat.
Also, people on the PTR are a bunch of faggots.
>"WAH! I don't duel Healers! They're cheap!"
>Meanwhile, proceeds to bitch about how they're 2k in arenas on live or something
>>342145734
>because it would require them to work hard
probably because letting the player have their own controllable boat would be a pain in the ass to code into WoW's franken engine. they can't even change the capacity of the starting backpack because of some weird engine limitation from Warcraft 3.
>>342145871
Oh, and Warlocks look fun as fuck, especially Demonology. I feel they can do for a little bit more damage.
All in all, I feel that the flavor of most (if not all) of the classes is great and each distinct from the other. However, I greatly dislike how rotations are now so simple it's like you're playing a moba.
>Hang out in Dalaran, Alliance and Horde flopping about to show their transmogs
>Monthes will pass when people will be able to enjoy their flying city without some now dead douche telling us to look the the skies
>The Second Raid comes out, People are progressing. Quest is obtained from downing Gul'dan
>Khadgar greets you and goes to the Fountain shit...
>"HERO'S LOOK TO THE SKY...."
>2 million people quit soon after
>>342145317
>That ass
Sweet Mary and Joseph.
Warlock, besides demo, feels so fucking bad right now. Affliction just feels bad in general and destro, if you're not cleaving, is stupid slow. The removal of F&B from Destro just kills our sustained which was pretty much our only niche for a long ass time and the huge amount of RNG in Legion destro is horrendous, your mastery increases your damage by a random %, your immolate has a chance to give you a soul shard, and dimensional rifts are RNG so you might end up with getting 3 AoE ones on your burst and just making your parse shit. The rework of Demo kills their niche of burst AoE. Affliction is an absolute abomination right now because of its artifact weapon.
lots of classes feel like shit in the ptr. hopefully its because lots of skills that should be baseline are tied to artifact shit
