Why no one talks about this game anymore? Was it really that bad?
What happened? It is like the Souls community just vanished after Dark Souls 3 release.
>>342121267
>i posted it again
fuck off
>>342121356
What? It is my first Souls thread i months. I am just wondering what happened to the game popularity.
>>342121267
it's awfully linear and there's no build variety
Or y'know, people are playing the game instead of shitposting
>>342121267
DS3 was good but felt like it got the short end of the development stick in favour of Bloodborne.
Also expectations were impossibly high while From wanted to put DS behind them and try new things but they were contractually forced to do DS2 and 3.
I'm honestly glad it's over and they can finally do something fresh.
3 wasnt better than 2. So people got over it real quick. Additionally it has less weapon and gear viability, as well as less paths to choose from making every play through the same.
it might be the worst DaS
![02-HpBpWJ2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IwN5cSx.jpg "02-HpBpWJ2[1].png")
>>342121267
Only the DLC can save it.
Speaking of which: DLC Hopes, Dreams, and Nightmares?
>>342121267
Worst game ever concieved in the history of humanity! Petition to have this game unmade, when?
>>342121267
>Linear and short, tons of cut content to be released as DLC
>Dog shit balance and design choices, devs seemingly learned absolutely nothing from their previous fuck ups
>Massive shitstorm of a release full of bugs
>network issues that caused massive amounts of players to get banned or put on a shadow server, and covenants to be completely broken
>None of these issues were even addressed until nearly 2 months after release
It is really that bad.
>>342121971
I agree
i thought it couldnt get worse than 2 but at least there was humour in 2's flaws
>>342121267
>release the same game 3 times
>expecting people to care
>>342121507
>there's no build variety
>>342121267
>>342121507
>>342121971
>>342122162
>>342122507
>>342122782
Keeping the meme alive
The game made more sense to me when I figured out its basically Bloodborne again. Using a shield is almost pointless, because even frequent enemies have 8+ part combos.
>>342121267
Because there is a more exciting and fresh-er Souls game to talk about, even though it's older
The trail of discussion it left behind and will continue to for years is only proof of its superior quality
No matter how many things DaS3 might've done better it's irrelevant because it was such a safe and predictable and unnecessary sequel that deep down almost no one cares about.
game is good but it just feels like a greatest hits of dark souls instead of something new
>>342122162
>Dreams
Make pvp not shit
>Hopes
Make magic/pyromancies/miracles not shit
>Nightmares
Remains the same
>>342123140
>Waahh stop criticizing my favorite game
>mmmm give me your cock and cum Fromsoft! put it in deep! Mmmhh
>>342123275
this. dark souls 3 was fun, but it brought nothing new to the table. its just the last two dark souls mashed together with bloodborne combat
>>342122162
>hopes and dreams
Fun and viable faith.
spoiler: it will never happen
>>342121971
>3 wasnt better than 2
You fuckers are literally subhuman and I hope for your sakes you're not being serious, no rational person can hold an opinion like this. But hey, we're living in a world where people think Fallout 3 is the greatest game of all time, so who knows.
>>342123371
I think Great Heavy Soul Arrow and Soul Greatsword are pretty good. But this is the first time I've ever tried a sorcery build after all.
>>342123160
This, how could das3 even compete?
>>342122842
>release game
>people cry for more of the same
>get more of the same
>bitch how it's just more the same
Why are gamers so retarded?
It feels and plays like a shittier Bloodborne.
>what if we take bloodborne and then throw a bunch of dark souls mechanics in them but don't bother to make sure they work or are balanced
the game is good and all but they fucked stuff up even worse than usual this time, it's almost DeS bad where wearing armor is basically pointless
Some facts
>2 had better PvP, more fun, more build variety, magic was finally viable
>3 just feels like a rehashed version of previous games, it doesn't feel like a unique game at all
>the grim dark setting of the game and the bland grey filter makes the game uninteresting to me atleast, I miss the bright-day areas like Tower of Flame
>It is short as fuck, many areas are disappointing
It was a Demon's Souls remake
>>342121267
Thats what happens when they recycle so much content from the previous 2 games. Because there is so little thats new there is nothing to discuss.
Patiently waiting on the dlc.
2 was more fun
>fuck load of builds to try
>can change your build many many times in the same playthrough
>can change gender at any time and be a girl
>is more enjoyable when you realize it's more videogamey and arcadey than any others
>>342121267
Short and uninspired... The 2 expansions will defibrilate it for abit. It felt like they just wanted to get it all over with.
>Hype a new FP skill system
>90% of them are useless
>A lot of the good stuff is at the end of the game so making a new build is a painful chore and by the time the build is complete you already cleared most of the game
>Recycled armor sets and weapons
>Most bosses feel samey. Just a giant dude with a sword attacking really fast with infinite stamina making shields useless
>Invasions are so unfair nobody does them anymore
>Pvp has less mechanics and depth than DaS2 Pvp
It was just a very disappointing game.
it's just an utter snoozer. pvp is unsatisfying, and pve, well, let's just say that the third time is not the charm here
>>342124068
>Some facts
>2
>more fun
The gameplay was worse than DeS.
The game looked like some 12 year old rebuilt DaS in Mario Maker.
>No poise
This is literally the only thing that ruined it. Heavy armour is completely useless. Almost all builds feel the same because of this, so there is no reason to replay the game.
I honestly liked 2 more than 3, the areas were more memorable and every build felt viable. Even a high faith build felt viable because they actually let you do damage for a while until they nerfed the fuck out of it.
Well the game has been out for a while now and there are lots of people myself included with 100+ hours and multiple builds. It's got to a point where everything you can do in the game has been done now. Wait for DLC and the game will be revived again.
>>342124876
I dont know why they nerfed it. That game had anti magic shields that worked like a charm.
>>342124792
PvP was more fun. Seriously, it was great compared to the shit we have in 3.
Are there any good offensive miracles? All i have is dorhys' gnawing and lightning spear
It's mostly just really bland.
>there is nothing to discover as the game doesn't branch off like DaS or DaS 2 did
>the game is rather short
>areas aren't diverse at all - while DaS 2 had some nonsensical transitions, it rewarded you for beating an area by moving on from A to B, not from A to A' to A'' to B to B' to B'' etc. pp.
>there is no arena and PvP sometimes encounters the issue of summoners spamming comrades at you
>the game isn't fresh - it's Dark Souls - more Dark Souls while being severely limited in creativity and let's be honest, it feels like Bloodborne turned generic
>it's simply the fifth game of its franchise so there is little to talk about
Ever since tumblrborne darksouls just feels bad.
The game was just really disappointing. The whole game can basically just be summarized as "Hey, remember that thing from DaS?" or "Wow, doesn't this remind you of DaS a lot?"
>>342124068
>grim dark
Who comes up with these buzzwords?
>>342125102
>tumblrborne
Explain your memeing or leave
>>342123160
That's kinda retarded. Like 60% of the BB discussion was shitposting about it being an exclusive.
>>342123275
This is pretty accurate. I enjoyed it a lot but franchise fatigue is a real thing. Looking at DaS 1 through 3 it's probably one of the few series to stay so similar throughout the trilogy. Comparing it to something like Onimusha 1-3 or the DMC trilogy makes it really stand out.
>>342121267
It was twenty hours long, had barely any replay value due to be being linear and the DLC was essentially promised for the end of the year.
The bosses are fun but the levels are not.
>>342125026
Lightning blade. God forbid you do anything other than R1 spam.
>>342121971
It was much better than 2 you dingus.
>>342124068
>It is short as fuck, many areas are disappointing
DaS3 had genuinely better level design than half of 1 and 2. The shortcuts and general exploration in the Archives and the Church were neat. DaS2 had all around mediocre at best level design, and I liked the Shrine of Amina.
Also lol at all these people calling 2 better. I never hated 2 but it's always funny seeing people go balls deep and defend the older game released in the series over the new one. I guess it's the "Zelda effect". Can't wait for the new one to come out so people can say Skyward Sword was actually a great game.
>Bloodborne
*unzips katana*
ARArAARARARARARA~~ !!!!
*dashes around like the eldritch half-vampire creature he is*
I ENTRUST MY LIFE INTO THIS THRUST
*attacks in and out of weapon stance switching, sacrificing his own HP for crucial well-planned attacks*
About to heal? Psshhh kid, not a problem.
*grabs the amazing transforming bow using his own blood-spawned ammunition to finish the job*
>DarkSouls3
oh...... neat katana weapon art... I guess.
*switches back to random dual wielded weapon and rolls>L1 in PvP*
*Spams "VERY GOOD!" rock fifteen times in front of opponent's corpse after the easy win*
the bell tower covenant was one of the best things to ever come out of Dark Anything. Why did they leave that behind! I just wanted to keep people from ringing a bell
>>342122162
Weapons and rings that severely add to the dynamic of off hand weapons.
Unique dual wielding for weapons already in the game that are canonically dual wielded but instead just have the standard offhand moveset of block + neutered R1.
>>342122948
>Can't play pure caster or offensive caster until you've almost completed the game and it's basically shit
On top of that most of the weapon choices aren't really viable.
DaS2 had way more variety and every weapon was hypothetically viable.
>>342121267
Invasions suck.
The game is too linear to play around with new builds since you need to progress too far to get everything you want.
There's just less to play around with.
>>342125441
>That's kinda retarded. Like 60% of the BB discussion was shitposting about it being an exclusive.
there are STILL 2x more actual genuine BB threads than DaS3 threads, even without taking shitposting into account. That was my point, I wasn't talking about launch BB threads, I'm talking about nowadays.
>>342126142
>Souls PVP
>ever good
>>342126056
>The shortcuts and general exploration in the Archives and the Church were neat.
Replacing the excess bonfires in DS2 with "Does not open from this side" isn't an improvement.
>>342121971
Agreed, at least DaS2 had good combat.
>>342126454
BB's was different, at leastwhen it works
All I get on DaS3 is meme builds and the same tactics over and over. the 5 on 1 thing also got old fast.
>>342126142
jesus fr*cking chr*st
this is PSHH NOTHIN PERSONNEL...................................... KID................ tier
what the fr*ck were they thinking
>>342126424
There's still shitposting, and yeah it's a new IP with an all new lore setting, DaS3 was just wrapping shit up on an old lore setting that's been pretty much depleted at this point. When DaS1 came out there was like insane discussion on it that spawned multiple youtube channels and threads for years, like the bulk of the DaS universe has been covered already.
It's a good game, but that's it. You play it once and you don't really need or feel you should play it again
>>342121641
But they aren't. The game is now down to 10k players on steam down from 120k at release.
OP the truth is DS3 was heavily marketed and a lot of normies and first timers bought it, and as normies always do they got bored of it in a week.
The game is also extremely lackluster, PVP is even more of a joke than in Bloodborne and there's no replayibility. In a week or so DaS1 should have more players.
>>342121267
>What happened?
Meme game. BB was far better.
>>342126142
>Madaras Whistle
>>342122507
Don't forget that half the players were banned because someone hacked and then connected to them.
>>342121267
Once the next souls like game releases, the absolute trash version will become that, and GOTY thank you based Miyazaki will become 3.
T. Dark souls 2
>>342121267
I would talk about it, but it's so unoptimized that I literally can't even play it.
>>342126794
>>342126994
Are you talking to ME?
the FASTEST immortal vampire of this gothic clocktower that is actually a NIGHTMARE realm I spawned?
Huh bitch kid? I bet I'm 2 years older than you. HAhahaa
Psshhh~~ talk to me again and I'll RIP your fucking heart out a SECOND time you hear me?1111111
literally DeS remake tbhsmh
It feels more like a chore to play than other souls. Farron Keep swamp, catacombs and irithyll dungeon are just tedious. Any time I want to start a new character I remember the giant slog that is the middle of the game and lose all interest.
>this thread
I told you fuckers. I fucking told you at release that this game is shit and you're going to say it's shit in a month. But you called me a faggot and said it's the best game ever made. Who's a faggot now?
>>342125163
You need to be 18 to post here.
>>342127252
fuck was the abyss watchers room just a reused area from bloodborne
>>342126658
>>342126142
God I love this game, it almost annoys me too many people are caught up in a PC vs. Console war to actually see these clips and not want to play it.
>>342126658
Souls PVP is pretty much a novelty though, no one should treat it as this great 1v1 high skill ceiling test of might. I tried to get into PVP in DaS1 but the lag making it more luck than skill really killed my interest overall, plus the leveling meta is silly. I also have no real issue with invaders getting constantly connected to people with phantoms, you're supposed to strike from awkward angles and use the NPCs to your advantage.
>>342126619
There was a lot of optional and branching shit in both of those areas, I missed that whole covenant in the undead church my first time through the game. I even reran through the Archives to get like 3 slabs and that 3 shot crossbow.
>>342127284
>catacombs and irithyll dungeon
Some complain about chalice dungeons, but at least they were optional in BB
>>342127182
Same here. 5 second stutters since release, still not fixed.
>played ds1 for less than 10 hours
>played ds2 for 200+ hours
>completed it 3-4 times
>played ds3 for 110+ hours
>completed it once
This is advanced form of autism.
Dead game
everyone went back to DS1 and DS2
>>342127624
did you start with 2?
>>342127610
Stop trying to play it with all setting on ultra, you dunce.
>>342127252
Holy shit why is she like 6'8"?
>>342127669
Nope, ds1. Never got past spider fire tits and gave up.
But the combat and exploration was nice so looked forward to the next game.
>>342127725
I can literally run it on 640x480 with lowest settings imaginable and 60 fps and it will still stutter
it's shit pham
>>342127669
I started with demon souls.
>>342122162
Not another fucking brown cathedral.
>>342127410
You are, although everyone in thread is faggot so there is that.
sequels were a mistake, turns out that not getting a DeS2 was probably for the best
>>342127467
>reused area from bloodborne
nah they don't look alike
But a lot of other stuff was. I simply couldn't shake off the feel of Hemwick in the Undead Settlement. Even though it is bigger and more branching in DaS3, it STILL felt like a cheap "me too" version of BB's Hemwick Charnel Lane
>>342121267
Overwatch came out.
>>342121267
I realized the games are not going to get better and stopped careing. Every game after DeS improved on the game that came before it but also fucked up something else.
>>342128008
DS3 is DeS2 tho
EpicNameBro already said it when Dark Souls 3 was released. "Souls games are dead"
>>342127774
She's a big girl.
>>342127906
Right? You'd think you're playing Bloodborne or something.
>>342125124
...he says while posting something based off of Dark Souls 2.
is this game easier than previous souls games? i'm at soul level 31 at abyss watchers and i haven't upgraded a single weapon yet
>>342127823
Your PC is a toaster.
does BB happen before or after Dark Souls?
>slayer of demons is gwyn
>chosen undead is vendrick
>bearer of the curse is ???
>hunter is ???
>ashen one is ???
>>342127610
I've heard that it works with older drivers, if you're using Nvidia. Still haven't tried it
How the hell Bloodborne has better graphics?
>>342128264
t. human studies major
>>342128313
No, just no
>>342128249
The hardest souls game is your first. If you've played one or more of the previous games it won't feel as difficult.
>>342122162
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>>342128142
disgusting. delete this
>>342128313
>does a game with guns happen before or after the game with bow and arrows?
>>342128350
Sony paid Miyazaki to make a PS4 exclusive game. It is quiet obvious he put more effort in Bloodborne than Rehash Souls 3.
>>342126619
It is a great improement of empty shells of dks 2.
>>342128485
>>342128142
That's kinda hot, any more of her?
>>342128243
2 was subtle about it
3 was right into your face
HEY YOU REMEMBER THIS OR THAT OR WOW LOOK HAHA LIKE DAS1 RIGHT HAHA YOU LIKE THAT RIGHT?????????
fucking meme as shit game, turned previously just a strange but interesting NPC into full blown meme straight outta 9gag
>>342127076
Zelda cycle is a hell of a drug dude.
>>342124993
>I dont know why they nerfed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SNrS1yWWFA
Trying new characters/builds out is a chore. It doesn't help that half of them are trash and you'd only try them for the sake of trying something new, or hoping they secretly click with whatever autism you call your playstyle. Writing all this out it's weird how so much is gated behind Irithyll and Irithyll Dungeon.
You want to try Hexes? Run through 2/3 of the game. Sorry, they're garbage.
Pyromancy? It's doable but again, 2/3 of the game.
Miracles? The usable ones drop(wait for it) 2/3 of the way through the game or off the last bosses.
Sorcery? 90% of the game.
Luck build? First Hollow stone's 1/3 of the way through. OK, not too bad. Just kidding faggot, the coal to use it is... 2/3 of the way in!
Is your SL too high? Upgraded a weapon too many times? New character. Need a Ring with a + on it? OK, beat the game again.
Although Quality covers most of what you'd want, it can't cover everything, especially if you want to do a lower bracket. So Str, Dex, Int, Faith and Luck all become separate characters. Worse if you want specific stat spreads and or hybrid spreads. Remember, 5 respecs per playthrough and NG+. Hope you don't fuck up your appearance and want to burn a tongue on that, moron.
>but that just encourages you to replay the game a lot
Yeah, it's not bad at first. I've played through the game about 5 times now. But it also gets very tiring to want to try a new weapon type or new build and realize you can do it in a few hours. Yeah I've gotten good at speed running.
OK, NOW ON TOP OF ALL THAT, add the legitimate complaints like the blue covs being broken, invading into 3v1s constantly, over half the weapons being unviable trash, etc.
>>342128486
time is convoluted and everyone just forgot about all those gunz and shit cuz it was so long time ago
>h-how did they built this????
this happens irl too
>>342128584
Are you fucking Chinese? Speak correctly.
>>342123650
Totally agree with you, 3 was rationally, objectively better than 2.
>>342121267
its DS1.5 instead of DS3, most of the problems that were present in DS1 are still present in DS3.
>>342128724
Too long post but true, a lot of the fun stuff is hid way too long into the game.
Why the 1st DLC is coming out in September? Literally everyone will forget about this game till September. They should have released the 1st dlc in June-July atleast.
>>342128954
so it's okay to play this before playing 2? i skipped 2 and currently playing 3
>>342121267
You can't make the same game 4 times in 6 years and expect people to keep thinking it's revolutionary.
>>342127478
why would you want to play bloodborne based on those clips. the pvp looks terribly dodge spam reliant, which it is.
>>342129124
>i skipped 2
why?
>>342128902
Except in length, variety, linearity, amount of content, and combat mechanics (specifically referring to overpowered DS3 rolls and lightning-fast estus).
>>342128313
kys
>>342129236
why u mad, kiddo?
>>342129164
>>342129124
No, that's the correct choice. DS2 online is already dead; might as well play 3 while it's still active and play 2 later. It's not like you'll miss out on plot.
>>342121267
Roll roll attack.
Still at least 16 threads a day about this shitty game....yet shill boy pretends there isnt.
>>342128640
>turned previously just a strange but interesting NPC
I just started to hate a lot of characters from DS1. Second wave of artorias fags (now even more edgy), Gwyndolin was turned from great manipulator to shiny tragic fuccboi, copypasted onion with another "let`s kill my friend/brother/father/grandps type quest", second season of Gwyn`s family soap opera - I`m tired of this shit.
>>342129164
playing other games
>>342128640
>2 was subtle about it
>>342129184
>length, variety, linearity, amount of content, and combat mechanics
Are you fucking serious? Do they pay you to tell somethign like this?
>>342128640
>2 was subtle about it
No, it really wasn't.
Fuck off.
>>342128640
>2
>subtle
By sublte you mean literally not having any connection to DaS1? You pass through a portal to a different dimension that doesn't resemble anything from DaS1, then on NG+ the boss souls are named after major bosses in DaS1. There's no real connection at all, Nashandra I guess kinda counts but even then it's pretty much nothing.
>>342121267
Oh look, the same thread again.
>>342129338
more like meme "LE HYPE" choice
I've started playing Demon's Souls when 2 was JUST only few hours new and got to other games later
>>342129409
>needing to play every game on release
epin
>>342129338
so 2's plot isn't that important to the whole story?
>>342129583
>needing to play every game on release
i-i don't understand what you're trying to get at, honestly
>>342129630
DS2 has no plot tie in to 1 or 3, outside of like one minor thing. It was pretty much made by a different team.
kinda felt like they made magic completely useless. So you stopped seeing magic characters and more sword and boards. you then had the youtubers posting weekly "meta" videos were they used on weapon and the following week the entire community would be using it. so build variety just became pick one of these 8 weapons.
>>342128724
Whell, in BB the most fun bloodtinge and (especially) arcane items were placed in late game, DLC and deepest layers of defiled Chalices.
I quess that Memezaki just hates anything but melee builds.
>>342129538
>By sublte you mean literally not having any connection to DaS1?
That's a good thing. Souls should've just been purely original adventures with every game, with really really obscure connections at most. Too bad DaS3 threw that out of the window.
>>342129412
>>342129532
>DaS2 has one reference to DaS1 in the form of the Old Dragonslayer
>everyone flips their shit, how could they lazily reference DaS1 for no reason like that, how disgraceful
>DaS3 literally has Anor Londo and loads of other shit ripped straight from DaS1 for no reason
>OH MY GOD I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK FROM, I SWEAR I'LL DO IT
kek.
>>342129525
>Did From pay you to shitpost their own game in favor of one of their other games?
Are you thick?
Even if you prefer DS3 to DS2, which is a totally reasonable opinion, DS2 is longer, has areas other than "Castle, Swamp, Catacombs, Archive", more branching paths, more bosses (quality aside, if bosses are the only time combat is fun in both games then quantity is important) and more optional areas.
The only subjective opinion in the list was combat, and you are perfectly free to prefer unpunishable rolls and chugs.
>>342129851
>tfw I completed the game with a pure INT caster and a Pyromancy caster BEFORE magic got its biggest patch yet.
It sold like shit.
>>342130059
The entire first half of the fucking game apes from the first fucking game is the most hamfisted fashion.
It makes sense in DS3 because it's literally the same region, it doesn't makes sense in DS2 because it's in the opposite side of the planet.
I've played mostly dex and now strength
What's next?
>>342129412
>>342129532
>>342129538
>I don't know what subtle means and I'm retarded
the whole point of 2 is same locations (mostly of course, not every one) changed drastically through time
>completely optional Ornstein fight in a part sunken Anor Londo
that's cool and subtle.
>remember that hyped AF fight with two of them in ds1 pham?? good times but it's different now
>completely optional gargoyles who are the same gargoyles from ds1
interesting to return to a location and find those statues are still alive and there waiting for you
>dragonrider halberd + dragonrider bow and that queen girl
just a neat reference to O+S done different
/v/ is retarded as fuck and doesn't understand half the basic shit everytime
>>342130460
go buy bloodborne witth dlc
>>342130460
Pyromancy is fun, try that.
>>342130304
>It makes sense in DS3 because it's literally the same region, it doesn't makes sense in DS2 because it's in the opposite side of the planet
Except it's all the same region m8, Lordran, Drangleic, Lothric, it's the same region, difference in names is because much time went by.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ4QEsQgQ34
>>342130304
>it makes sense in DS3 cuz I was spoonfed it's the same place guyz i'm too retarded to understand where 2 was located myself
>>342130304
How so? Because you go out to kill 4 lords just like in the first and now also the third? And who's to say DaS2 doesn't play in the same region? After all, DaS3's region really doesn't look anything like Lordran except for the fact that Anor Londo's there for some reason. The fact that all the areas you go through happen to be retreadings of DaS1 areas can easily just be chalked up to them being there for the nostalgia and gameplay.
>>342130594
Already have that you faggot
>>342130647
But I gotta invest in both faith/int tho right, I don't wanna be a clothed cripple with a glove
BB=Ds3>Ds1>DeS>>Ds2
>>342130793
There are only 3 builds, so if you refuse to do the third one then there's nothing we can do for you.
>>342130793
Just go 20/20 until you feel like you got the hang of it. That should cover the most useful pyromancies and leave you with enough scaling for NG.
>>342127809
Okay if you're actually so shit you cant beat quelaag even when mildred can practically solo her for you I don't think anybody actually cares what you think.
That's about as embarrassing as not beating iron golem with tarkus summoned, which frankly I'm not sure is even possible
>>342130059
>2 was a game that really makes no sense when connected to 1
>This is how the series should have been told.
That's just your opinion, the only reason you think that is because 2 now looks retarded because it doesn't tie into the other games at all
>DaS3 literally has Anor Londo
>The city of the Gods and the center point of Lodran plays an important part in the overall story of the game
Wow, what a shock. This is the reason I don't validate most DaS3 shitposters. Some things in DaS3 are clear fanservice (Seigward and Andre for one) but a lot of the other stuff makes complete sense from a lore standpoint. Artorias having a covenant dedicated to his legend and Anor Londo still being in use are completely fine, they only bother people who get assblasted when DaS3 even mentions one thing from DaS1.
>>342130065
DaS2 combat is slugish and gross, couple that with the horrid hitboxes and the stat you need to level to get iframes and you get a game that really isn't as fun to play as 1 or 3. I'd easily say that 1 has the best combat system though, 2 did get diversity of play down right but the core gameplay is gross. 3 feels good but you have a bit too much freedom of movement.
>>342129806
Retarded meme, all these 5 games are done by the same people and rehash assets like crazy
>>342130668
Half the fanbase is retarded and skips NPC dialogues pham, what do you expect
>>342124071
Found the retard
>>342121267
it's mediocre after bloodborne
>>342122162
gimmie those angels, londor and OCELOOOOOOOOOOTE.
literally the only interesting parts of the lore and they weren't even explored
>>342131202
>added FP bar just like in DeS (got removed in DaS)
>not a remake
Sure thing.
>>342130576
Worst souls game, made me not care about souls type games anymore
>>342130690
>>342130668
To be fair, I didn't really get it either when DaS2 was new and thought the places were similar because that's how sequels generally work, not because they were supposed to be the same place.
And really, a lot of it looks extremely different, in a way that's hard to justify by time unless literal eons pass between them. Castles and shit are sure to break and be rebuilt, but all of the terrain and mountains and shit? But I guess it's fantasy, so you ain't gotta explain too much shit. Either way, it's some very cool world-building.
>>342131179
>pham
>>342130690
>2 is made by a different team
>has locations that don't even slightly resemble DaS1
>they loosely try to tie it together
>people just eat that shit up
>>342130705
At the start of DaS2 you fall into that whole alternate dimension thing and walk through an area that suggests you're in a new reality. The whole thing feels like its own game.
Also why wouldn't Anor Londo be there? It's a protected city of the gods.
Because it's not as good as DS2.
>>342128603
gotchu
>>342131430
>I don't have anything to argue but I'll post anyway
>>342131502
>he doesnt know about the filter
if you dont change it to pham, it filters to senpai
try it yourself senpai
>>342123140
Go to a safe space if you can't stand the truth.
>>342131495
They already explained that, it's not just time that goes by, timelines also converge, time and space become distorted, if you look at the Kiln in Dark Souls 3 you'll realize that.
>>342121267
Lacks builds, weapons, shields and all areas are too linear and small for PvP. Talk shit about DSII all you want but at least that game got these things right. DSIII is just Bloodborne 2.0
>>342131151
>stat you need to put five minutes of work into to get back to DS1 rolls.
It's a non-issue, if not a benefit to the game, to have more leveling options on the defensive side. The default agility is probably a bit too low because From never fixed their shitty programming from the first game (where your hitbox stays in place until after the roll is finished).
I didn't find the hitboxes to be significantly worse than DS1 either, but if I say this the thread will get flooded with webms of characters with low agility.
>>342130576
>The Old Ones have the souls from the first game's lords for some reason
>Shalquior even directly mentions them
>An entire race that carries on Nito's duty
>Firstborn's statue in Earthen Peak for some fucking reason
>Seath alluded to creating Tark and Nakja, still alive in the Writhing Ruin
>The DLC is all about Manus and even The Chaos makes an appearance.
>Abyss Greatsword can be found and it now has some fanfiction about lefhanded proficiency.
>>342131825
>lacks weapons and shields
Are you serious? DaSIII has as much weapons and shields as vanilla DaSII if not more.
>>342130576
>>342131650
There's a difference between subtle and barely having a connection. DaS2's story is horribly executed, the whole ending with your character sitting on a throne pretty much has no connection to the events of 1 or 2.
>>342129583
Damn you're retarded. It's not even a "hype meme," the game is simply more populated.
>>342131975
And they're all fucking shit
>>342131825
>areas are too small
OP is a faggot
>>342132023
That's an opinion not a fact.
Say what you want about the gameplay but Dark Souls 2 has some great lore.
>>342131825
>DSIII is just Bloodborne 2.0
BB has more viable weapons though.
Quality over quantity nigga.
>>342131989
>after all these playtime hours, you've finally became KING™ SCHOLAR OF THE FIRST SIN™ yourself, congrats phamalayo
3 is worse than 2 anyway
>>342131927
Artorias is left handed, unsure how a double sided sword can be left or right handed though.
>>342131878
Being forced to level a stat to make dodging viable is dumb. In DaS1 you trade off armor for dodge speed, which works perfectly. In DaS2 you just pretty much stack armor until you're just under the equip load and you work with it from there. It felt dumbed down compared to 1, plus the agility stat was poorly explained in game.
>>342132302
2 plays worse and has worse level and boss design, but alright. I even enjoyed 2 but it's for sure got noteworthy issues.
>>342132302
>3 is worse than 2 anyway
I'll never get over the fact that contrarian retards believe this. The only excuse is if you play more PVP than PVE, then fine whatever. Otherwise, while 3 may not be the most fantastic game in the series it clearly shits on the pile of mediocrity that is 2.
Main reason why the game is dead now is because the online was completely fucked for the first month of release, which is supposed to be the funnest time of any souls game. The early release co-op and PvP is when the community develops and people get hooked. But since From left it broken for over a month people just lost their patience and moved on to shit like Overwatch.
Fromsoft are a bunch of incompetent retards.
>>342131546
>walk through an area that suggests you're in a new reality
I guess, maybe?
For one, it does look very reminiscent of Ash Lake from DaS1 with the giant trees and the water.
But also, I just sort of took it like the beginning of Majora's Mask, an insane place that doesn't really make sense in so far as where it's situated and how it connects to the rest of the world. In MM it was indeed a portal to another universe, but in DaS2 I just felt it was a mysterious setpiece to start the game off with, that is real, but that we don't learn anything about, that reminds us that the world in Souls isn't bound to our ideas of reality or physics.
>>342132436
>unsure how a double sided sword can be left or right handed though
The weight is distributed differently based on which hand is has more strength, blacksmithing 101 nigga.
>>342131825
>DSIII is just Bloodborne 2.0
>implying it's got anything on Bloodborne
I mean besides reused assests
>>342129920
I think the vast majority of players use a melee build in these games, they probably see anything outside of that as a gimmick honestly.
>Dark Souls 2 is bad because i can't run past every enemy like in Dark Souls 2
>what is even worse is Soul Memory because i now can't get overpowered gear on the lowest level and destroy babies on early levels
>also no red eye orb what the fuck why can't i grief people
>>342132436
>Artorias is left handed
Artorias broke his left hand, because that's his shield hand.
Artorias is not left handed.
>>342124654
THIS
>>342132436
>Being forced to level a stat to make dodging viable is dumb.
Which is why I go right on to say that the default value was a bit low, you illiterate fuck. Even the bandit starts with slow roll agility and if you're saying you can't get through the game with slow rolling then I can only respond with "git gud".
>>342132265
Hm yes chikage/Repeater if bt
Cleaver/pizza cutter if str
Spear/saif if Dex
>Playing arcane
Much variety such diversity wow
Just started 2 and got to Majula, why does everything feel so different? I've been somewhat marathoning the series from BB to DeS to DaS1 and this game just feels off.
>>342121267
It was a fad that is now old. Its just okay, nothing special.
>>342121267
Not enough builds. Magic and Faith builds are mediocre. The only fun I had was with melee builds.
>>342132971
Well if we're going by only what's the absolute best then DaSIII has literally just the Dark Sword and that's it.
>>342132987
DS2 is fanfiction.
>>342132590
>C-contrarian!
Stop posting anytime
I didn't really like it. I felt it was way too linear and repetitive, compared to literally every other game in the series. The constant fanservice also annoyed me. I'm going to wait for all the DLC to come out, play through those, then probably sell it.
>>342131151
>the only reason you think that is because 2 now looks retarded because it doesn't tie into the other games at all
No, all the shit that returns makes 3 look like a blatant fanservice game. 2 was really really original, especially in comparison to 3.
The way Anor Londo is situated in the world and in the city of Irythill doesn't make any sense at all whe nyou compare it to DaS1. 3 also implies that somehow only the grand cathedral is called "Anor Londo" now, when it was an entire city before. Not to mention the cathedral is way up in the sky when it wasn't in DaS1, and there was an actual city around it with buildings and you could see the ground. And that somehow turned into the Boreal Valley and everything just disappeared? It's a bit of a stretch.
>>342124654
except for the "any time" part, the same can be said about DS3, also
>DS2
>Builds
>>342133093
He's not wrong
>>342133093
Kill yourself anytime.
>>342133083
Not even the dark sword baby. Anris shits all over it. Do you even know what you're talking about?
>>342132987
The worlds of the other games have the ''dying'' feel while the world of Dark Souls 2 still looks more alive.
>>342121267
I just can't finish myself to finish this game.
I'm in the swamp area with the slow as fuck movement and I'm just so fucking bored. I keep picking it up saying "I'm gonna finish it today!" but I just can't. I'm done with Souls games.
Advice /v/?
>>342132987
>>342133090
fuck off samefagggot
/v/ really shouldn't be allowed to talk about dark souls. Soulsborne and fighting games
You are all fucking stupid and hold shit opinions.
>>342131761
That's true. Time and space become clearly completely warped in 3. Actually that's the number one reason why I think Anor Londo is where it is in 3.
I also thought that maybe the fire being linked literally warps space and all the terrain around it, as if it's being remolded.
>>342121267
Because its literal shit and bloodborne is better.
Uninspired level design, shit enemies, easy as fuck bosses.
Fuck ds3, may the dlc rot in piss
>>342132903
then why would player gets a qunique moveset when his sword is wielded with left hand in ds2?
not to mention the cover art of ds (probably) has him and he is holding the sword in his left hand and the shield in the right hand
>>342133212
So 2 weapons as opposed to the 6 you outlined earler.
wow such diversity
omg incredible
>>342133128
Time and space are convoluted, anon. ;)
>>342133293
>s-surely more than one person can't criticize a game I like
Just die.
>>342133196
>>342133201
samefag
kys
>>342133287
>Advice
Git gud
>>342132903
The cover of DaS1 shows Artorias holding his sword with his left hand. He left his shield with Sif to protect him, it's debatable that he broke his sword arm going mental and was forced to fight you with his off hand.
>>342132639
>but in DaS2 I just felt it was a mysterious setpiece to start the game off with, that is real, but that we don't learn anything about, that reminds us that the world in Souls isn't bound to our ideas of reality or physics.
That's just bad writing honestly. They wanted to make a cool beginning to the game but it doesn't ever have any pay off or reason for existing like that. Majora's Mask does that because it's the same link from OoT, they just needed a reason for him to be in a new area.
>>342132971
>>Playing arcane
No one uses the tentacles and mlg?
>>342133427
>>342133287
kys
>>342133506
now I think that's Alva on the cover tho
>>342132858
>invading is now apparently griefing
>bonfire placement was done as an afterthought in some cases, with large amounts of enemies being grouped together resulting in you being forced to kite them away from each other and whittle away their health
>a focus on quantity over quality in bosses
>>342133245
It's not so much about the world, more about how the character moves. Even DeS didn't feel this funky.
>>342133432
>4 seconds apart
Nice bait anon. It was enough to get me to reply, so I guess pretending to be retarded worked.
>>342132903
And Raime wielded the Fume sword in his left hand when he was deemed a traitor and cast aside his Rebel's Greatshield
And Ludwig wielded the Holy Moonlight Sword in his left hand because his right had mutated into an overgrown beast claw.
That's how you homage Artorias, you don't create an entire army that developed a fighting style based on a misunderstanding.
>>342132987
The gameplay mechanics, movement and such physically feel different. That's it.
>>342133245
I don't think the world in DaS2 feels any less dead than in 1 or 3. I think it's probably even more bleak than either. Majula with it's music isn't a fun place to be.
>>342133397
You didn't even know about anri, how can I take your word for anything when you know nothing about the game you're shitting on
>>342133421
That's genuinely fair enough.
>>342133506
That's not artorias you stupid fuck.
>>342133598
>>a focus on quantity over quality in bosses
Dark Souls 2 has better bosses than Dark Souls 1. Even with the bloated number.
No Dark Souls 2 boss sucks as much as Moonlight Butterfly, Ceaseless Discharge or Bed of Chaos.
>>342133691I started DaS3 and got bored after the Settlement so I went back and kept playing BB.
Even after burning out on BB I still don't feel any motivation to go back and finish 3.
>>342133287
Don't force yourself if you aren't enjoying it, I forced myself through it and it really wasn't worth it.
>>342133663
Is there a reason why it's different? I'm so used to the other games that it's kinda off-putting. I like how jump is L3 though, that's greatif only the jump isn't so pathetic looking.
>>342121267
I enjoyed the living fuck out of it, but unfortunately I have played the same game hundreds of times and diminishing returns are a bitch.
If they continue it I'd want a spiritual successor. I don't think I'd even buy another Dark Souls game.
>>342133506
Put your glasses on, look at Artorias' armor and compare it to your image.
>>342133598
>large amounts of enemies being grouped together resulting in you being forced to kite them away from each other and whittle away their health
This poster will simultaneously go on to criticize the abundance of healing items in DS2. If your first response to a group of enemies is to cheese it, you then can't complain about how tedious it is.
>>342133506
That is not Artorias you dumb shit. That's a generic knight rocking alva armor and rose blossom shield. Armor that was cut from das1 and was added to das2
>>342133287
Don't have any. You might be burnt out on Souls. Don't mind it, almost every Souls fan was when DaS2 came out, that's why it's held in such bad regard generally.
>>342123650
What? did you bought DaS2? i bet you never played it.
DaS3 "good" = Buyer delusion
People bitch about chalice dungeons in BB but at least that was some nice endgame content woth depth 5 FRC stuff. DaS is lacking that and the builds at 100-120 are so samey. Just not feeling it like I did with BB so I'm waiting for the dlc to get back into it.
To be fair I did already drop about 450 hours on it.
>>342122162
Blue Flame
>>342133998
DaS2 fans have to make up delusions of buyers remorse to defend their game. Keep the laughs coming.
>>342133128
There's giant fissures and clear earthquake like damage all over undead settlement and near Lothric castle. It's pretty debatable that parts of Anor Londo fell apart during the years. It's not a 100% perfect recreation of DaS1 but that makes sense considering the time span between the games. With DaS2 supposedly in the same area but lacking any actual landmarks it makes the game look silly.
>>342133360
/v/ is too casual to talk about fighting games.
>>342132953
>"git gud"
I beat the game multiple times fine, it's just lame and boring that the starting dodge is unreliable. There's also limited to no real visual way to tell how "good" your dodge is, so leveling it seems pointless. BB has an amazing dodge and pretty much everyone agrees that it's the hardest Soulsborne game.
