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I get why this would flop here, but why did it flop in japan?
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I get why this would flop here, but why did it flop in japan?

Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?
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It didn't the first couple of weeks. Japan had a Wii U shortage because of it.
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>>342105707
>Dont the nips eat this idol shit up?
Only in a world where memes are fact.

What are those sales like, anyway?
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>>342105707

>Wii u exclusive

Has there ever been a succesfull Wii u exclusive that wasn't also made by nintendo?

Beside why buy this game when the vita is a treasure trove of weeb shit?
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Game actually looks fun though.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up
No.

Where did you hear that?
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Looked shit anyway. Combining two franchises together and ignoring what makes them individually good in the first place is asking for a disaster.
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So what happened to that Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei thing? Haven't heard anything about it in ages.
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>>342106417
v
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>>342105894
It sold 1/5 of a Persona release.
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Being into idols doesn't necessarily mean being into video games.
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>>342108380
That means nothing. What were the actual numbers?
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>>342105782
It sold like utter shit the first weeks imbecile

Shortages didn't do shit
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>>342105707
>Today anon realises he's been lied to by literal weebs.
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it aint idolmaster or love live

Japs prob think it some cheap ass copycat on some shit console
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>>342105707
>Forgettable and bland characters (especially the main ones) and cliche predictable story
>Pandering to the Love Live/Idolm@ster crowd by making it saccharine and exploitative instead of taking a deeper look at the darker and sketchier side of the idol industry like what Persona 4 Dancing All Night did
>Ignoring what made Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem good and iconic in the first place by including nothing from the SMT series and only a few Fire Emblem characters
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>>342108529
I-I don't have them I'm sorry
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>>342105707
Its a shit game
Yes Japan still eats up idols. The best selling anime this season and probably next season is Macross.
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A friend has it and he pretty much said, it has awesome battle system and game mechanics just sadly covered in idol shit. So it's unfortunately one of those never judge a game by its cover syndrome like Codename Steam.
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The game is garbage and looks like something that should've been a mobile game, not a console one.
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>>342109796
>>>/s4s/
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>>342109512
theres a new macross? man i should keep up to date on my animus
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I remember seeing the Kowashitai trailer and having no idea this was the SMT x Fire Emblem game until they said so after the trailer. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>342109896
Reading the interview that came out, they didn't really know either.
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>>342109796
Is mobile calling the new epic meme?
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>>342105707
I actually would have bought it just for shits and giggles but the censorshit killed it for me.
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>>342110193
>not buying for the censorshits and giggles
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>>342110475
I refuse to support censorship.
Maybe I'll pirate it in a year or two
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I want this idol meme to die. It's infesting everything, it's too much, idols are such garbage.
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>>342106027
Bayonetta did pass the million copies
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>>342110656
I personally can't stand it either. Idol stuff should just stick with whatever merchandise that isn't video games.
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>>342110656
Maybe Trails wouldn't put people to sleep if it was an idol game though.
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>>342110656
mishishi
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>>342110656

>idols are garbage
>having this shit opinion in 2016

Mate, I think you mean Love Live is garbage Idolm@ster is where its at.
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>>342110656
Yeah, Rion was annoying and her chapter had the super generic message about muh idols saving people with their songs. And then she becomes maji tenshi Rion-chan.
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>>342110880
you take that back
honestly it's probably going there, judging by the trend started by crossbell and continuing through erebonia
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>>342110193

I'm still torn on whether or not to buy.

I am jonesing hard for a new smt style (gameplay) game, and the E3 video confirmed that this would be a decent holdover until P5.

>>342110656

I also feel this very strongly. Macross Delta gets a pass but the rest of it just doesn't stick with me.
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>>342110998
I don't care about your idol shows. They're probably fine. I don't watch them and I don't know anything about them. I just want idols to stop infesting non-idol-based games.
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>>342105782
It sold worse than Fallout 4 (a game already out) in Japan the first week it was out, you're an idiot
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>>342111178
But there's no SMT recruiting mechanic in this game
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>>342105782
Someone has a link PersonaCentral that compares the sales of SMTxFE to Persona and SMT games. Game sold like shit all across the board.

What did it do, less than 20,000? Yakuza 1 & 2 HD remake on Wii U in Japan sold less than 15,000 and SEGA lost money.
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>>342111201

>I just want idols to stop infesting non-idol-based games.

Never.
Idols have become such an important part of modern Japanese culture that they'll never likely go away.
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>>342111178
It's got SJ combat (widly accepted to be the weakest of the modern SMTs) without the variety from demon fusion and with obnoxiously long animations

I feel no desire to play it
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The concept of old FE characters being stands is cool but they completely fucked it to tears with the idolshit.
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>>342111349
It fucking sold less than Ronde, which Atlus received death threats over and had a demo that was famous for causing widespread pre-order cancellation
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>>342111275

Yeah I mean basic shit like "turn based and de/buffs usually matter"

Also I unironically like the color puke motif of the dungeons.

Normally I'd just replay something, but the last year has been me casually working through mainline SMT + Persona to get hype for P5. I'd love something completely new to me.
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Ask yourself who the market for this game is.

Was it for Fire Emblem fans? Besides a few of the character names, the weapon triangle, and turning into just Marth at the end, no.

Was it for SMT fans? I mean, it had the names for skills, but no demon negotiation or really anything that made an SMT game enjoyable to SMT fans. So no on that end either.

Was it for idolshit fans? Not really, because most of them are on PS3 obsessed with either Idolmaster of Love Live, or real-life idols.

Honestly this game had literally no market. It was for people who liked idolshit, didn't have a vested interest in seeing a proper SMTxFE game come out, and people who wanted a happy-go-lucky story about the power of love and friendship
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>>342111804
There's pretty much no romance in #FE
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>>342111804
>Ask yourself who the market for this game is.

Why would I? As long as I enjoy it I couldn't give two shits about the market. That's Nintendo's problem.

Good game to scratch the Atlus RPG itch until P5.
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>>342111906
okay?
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>>342110998
>Idolm@ster is where its at.
But only real idols, not CG and ML shit.
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https://twitter.com/opkowashitai
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My only worry is that my preorder doesn't arrive before the weekend.
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>>342112238

And only cute girl idols. NO CUTE BOYS
DO NOT LIKE THIS CUTE BOY ESPECIALLY
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>>342111804
It's for persona fans it seems. Or is Persona 3 and 4 not filled to the brim with waifu shit? I swear to god it's like you people forgot SMT had always been animu as fuck.
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>>342113519
SMT isn't Persona
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>>342112042
You don't seem to understand what that guy was saying at all
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>>342108990
>dark side of idol like P4DAN
so rise fucked a dude and get executed pretty much?
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>>342106417

well then who was the fucking audience for this game? Clearly it wasn't for FE or SMT fans.
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>>342108990

>including nothing from the SMT series

BUT MUH STRANGE JOURNEY BATTLE SYSTEM!
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>>342113519
Mainline SMT isn't Persona waifu garbage, my shitposting friend.
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>>342109605

>like Codename Steam

but that game was good. Americana and steampunk are WAY better than idolshit and future fantasy.
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>>342112076
that is what made me not want to buy the game
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>>342115358
Oh the game is good. The issue is that tons of people were hammering the game's look because it's steampunk and not their typical anime bullshit.

I personally didn't have a problem with it but many people kept saying I'm not buying it because of its steampunk looks.
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>>342113519

>persona fans

but there are no social links, no fusions, the dungeons work different and no romances

also the OST is trash despite the money they threw at it.
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>>342105707
it didn't flop in japan. This was a multimedia project and it made back every cent. It's not iconic but it was a success.
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Canceled my pre-order today
It's probably autism but I can't find joy when it's more a Treehouse game than an Atlus game.
Not just that but ever since it's been released it's been nothing but negativity.
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>>342115662
Treehouse has nothing to do with this game though.
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>>342115662
Maybe if your only source of 'information' is /v/.
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>>342115493
I'm not sure if it was the steampunk aesthetic as much as it was the execution

The environments were nice for a 3DS game, but the characters were ugly as fuck
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>>342115646
/v/ calls everything that doesn't sell 2 million a flop
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>>342115745
oh no people were tearing apart the steampunk aesthetic during the few weeks after release. It was really unbearable to listen to.
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>>342115728

>nothing to do with it
>localization literally changes the entirety of a main character's arc dungeon because boobs

Tsubasa's dungeon went from being less embarassed about her body image to a generic fashion statement.
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>>342115634
The OST is fantastic you autist
Also weapons are created by fusion and the dungeons are superior, P5's dungeons stray from past persona dungeons as well. There are side stories which are sort of like social links mixed with supports, but there's just no romance in them.
I think you should check your facts.
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>>342115873
because it's a bit shit

I really love the american history shit though, and I found it upsetting how a lot of Americans didn't even know who the characters were
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>>342115940
The game is localized by Atlas following what NoA wants.
Treehouse is not involved.
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>>342115873
It's because the steampunk aesthetic is creatively bankrupt and only the most degenerate of degenerates enjoy it.
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>>342115959
>The OST is fantastic you autist
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>>342115728
Worded it terribly, Sorry.
The phrase escapes me but from translation side of things It doesn't feel like it's atluses games.

Like when you read a translated text, It's not the author's words you're reading but a translators.

>>342115737
Where is praising this game?
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>>342106027
Splatoon was basically a cultural phenomenon in Japan and that's a Wii U exclusive.
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>>342115745

that may have been due to the artstyle. the designs themselves I felt were great and at worst a little too uniform due to the group wearing the same shit with exceptions. Also any game that uses Lovecraftian lore can't be entirely shit.
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>>342116109
Doesn't look like English is your first language
Which sucks for you because this game is only Japanese with an English sub. Even in the EU
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>>342115940
>people care for the actual ''story reason''
>not the fact that muh titties are not there anymore
You ain't fooling anyone, anon.
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are battle banters not subtitled? That kind of sucks if true.
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>>342116416
They are not
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>>342115358
>There are Codename Steam fans

take a screencap of this lonely fucker because you won't see them again for a long time
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>>342116329

the guys are still allowed in black tighties with bulges. shit even fire emblem didn't allow that in the localization.
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>>342116604
>shit even fire emblem didn't allow that in the localization.
But none of the classes had a costume change.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?

I don't live in Japan so I don't know how it really works but I always figured that the only ones who eat that stuff up are the bottom of the barrel otaku and the average Japanese person, or even the average Japanese gamer wouldn't really care that much.
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>>342116549

how about instead of still blindly judging off of shitposters back when it came out and give a chance you autist. it's been on clearance forever.
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>>342107478

OP's pic is the "crossover". The only thing it really brings from SMT is the gameplay. The theme is centered around idols and the entertainment industry and the main plot revolves around a bunch of entertainers whose "performas" are Fire Emblem characters. It's the last anyone expected to come from a crossover between FE and SMT, which is why opinions are so divided concerning the game. Censorship doesn't help its case, either.
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Waiting for a translated JP ISO so I can play without the shitty censorship
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>>342107478
You are looking at it
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>>342117121
I guarantee no one will give enough of a fuck to make one
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>>342106417
There was some tripfag guy named TharjaAnon or something claiming the guy was loved in Japan. Then again tripfags are retards so meh.
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>>342112864
makoto a BEST
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Someone post the awful wedding dress turned bodysuit pic please
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Be honest with me.
Which one of you guys in in charge of the operation kowashitai twitter account?
It's fucking hilarious.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?
Not if you put the Shin Megami Tensei name on it. Same reason why federation force got backlash.

It's more like Persona x Neo Fire Emblem
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>>342115493
Steampunk aesthetic is the most fedora-tier shit in existence.
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I can't wait for damage control part 2: Zio Boogaloo.
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Daily Reminder that even the Nips are laughing at the people who will buy this censored garbage:

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8606187.html
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>>342118370

Holy shit, feels bad.
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>>342118370
>NeoGAFより

>listneing to retards who visit that shithole
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>>342118370
Meanwhile they have a hard time with gore over there.
It's a weird world.
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>>342118726
>damage control
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>>342118757
It's especially weird since gore like severed hands and exploding body parts is present in anime so much. And all the blood.

Same thing with female nipples. Both are allowed in everyday TV shows or books but video games are somehow different
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>>342105707
It flopped because it's a shitty game. This isn't a case of someone not appreciating the game very much, the title just simply isn't that good.

This shit is like AVGN material once he runs out of older games in 30 years.
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>>342118726
NeoGAF mocks anyone who complains when NoA censors things and commends NoA for fixing Japan's "creepy" mistakes.

This explains why Nintendo gets away this shit when they really shouldn't, Censorship is NEVER ok.
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>>342120042
Gore is almost always blacked out in the original releases and only shown in the blu-rays
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>>342120464
So? Games come on blu-rays too
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>>342118370
>even nips are subject to persona and megaten shitflinging
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>>342116958
>>342117269
Ha ha, very funny.

Seriously though, what happened to it?

Was it cancelled?
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>>342120760
it warms my heart to know we're not so different after all
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>>342120839
yes
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>>342117437
>TharjaAnon
>retard
That's a severe understatement. He's one of the worst obsessive waifufags to emerge from /feg/ in the past few years, the only ones who surpassed him are BelkaAnon (who attempted to commit suicide because people were bullying his waifu (he failed)), and possibly some fellow who liked Hinoka a little too much.
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>>342120839
They aren't joking.
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>Japan has idols everywhere already
>game doesn't really do much to stand out

It's not rocket science.
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>>342118370
It's funny how much more censorship was found since that compilation was made.

Can't wait for when the game actually releases and we uncover all the rest
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>>342120839
That's what became of the project, anon. When we all saw the trailer April 1st plenty of us thought it was a joke too. Unfortunately it's not.
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>>342121118
OK guys, the joke's gone on long enough, time to knock it off.

Seriously, is SMTxFE coming out soon or not?
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>>342105707

no romances despite hot female protagonists.

fuck you too Atlus
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>>342121679
The game has plenty of implied romance.

I don't see your problem
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Idol games don't sell unless its Miku Idolm@ster can barely push 50k so they make their money off the DLCs + CDs
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>>342105707
It was a game made out of 2 combined franchises. Somehow the new game resembled neither. When you pander to a niche you have to give them what they want.

They thought they could pander to both, and they ended up pandering to neither. Who else is going to buy the game?
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>>342121776

I want my self-insert romancing hot babes like no tomorrow if the games featured hot girls and is a RPG from Japan.

Otherwise I will less interested and will focus my wallet on other games that garner my attention.
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>>342115959
>The OST is fantastic you autist
Hahahaha im not gonna bother teasing all your autistic tantrum After that sentence
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>>342118370

>even covered her in the jap release

jesus christ
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>>342122513
better get used to it
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>>342122513
>>342122860
If you mean Aversa, she isn't covered. It's just a camera angle showing the underside of her boobs which have clothes.
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>>342123062
I think he meant the zipper pants
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>>342122860

lolno

>>342123062

I mean Kiria

I was literally buying this game for the sexual undertones of shin megami tensei applied to fire emblem waifus, but this literally kills any purpose.
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>bayonetta released years ago
>sex shit everywhere
>extremely lewd
>nothing censored
>this shit releases now
>borderline allahu ackbar'd the game to cover everything and removing content

unacceptable, won't buy it
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>>342123416
That's because Bayonetta had the big names looking after it.
#FE doesn't.
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>>342123784

Japanese Phil Fish is the best.
no fucks given to anyone.
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>>342123416
>>342123784
You retards do not get it do you, did you ever see who localized bayonetta 2? It was platinum with no influence from
NoA same with devils third

What games got censored? Games that NoA had a hand in localizinf
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>>342123245
At least the japanese artbook still has the original kiria in it

Not so sure about the US one since we already know it's confirmed to have all the changes they made in the US version
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>>342115728
Atlus sure as hell didn't butcher it. When was the last time one of their Nintendo releases got put through the grinder like TMS did?

That leaves us with NoA. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that someone who works at NoA, yet isn't part of Treehouse, was hand picked to sterilize this game? Fuck no.

My money's on this guy. He used to work at Atlus, so NoA might have sent him over as a "consultant".
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>>342123967
Pretty much yeah.

It's weird seeing NoA try and figure out what their target audience is.

>>342124215
Treehouse isn't the entirety of NoA you know.
And you can literally Google the fact that it's Atlus under NoA.
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I'll buy it just for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyB4wOn4lVM
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FEfags hate it
SMTfags hate it
Personafags hate it
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>>342124787
>FEfags hate it
at first yes, now that I played it no.

Not the best game but solid
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>>342122380
First of all, that's because you have absolutely no rebuttal. Second, music taste is completely subjective, making what you said pants on head retarded. Dignifying it with a response was a mistake on my part.
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>>342110656
>idols are such garbage
FAG
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>>342112864
That was a great episode
might rewatch
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FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAHHHHHHHHHH EMBUREEEEEM
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>>342105707

They made it have nothing to do with SMT, very little to do with Fire Emblem and made it a half-hearted Persona-lite.

It pissed off just about every potential audience.
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>>342125419
And then censored it cutting off even more potential buyers.
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>>342105707
>My common knowledge is made out of memes
Poor retard
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>>342118370
I have no plans on buying this game and never really cared about censorship, but kinda feel sorry for the people who were going to buy this. NoA should know damn well how niche the audience for this game is and they decide to censor stuff which is pretty damn tame for a t rated game. Just asking for this thing to tank.
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>>342125595
Still waiting for an apology or I will never buy a localized game again
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>>342125595
Censorship retards are a loud minority though, when the game flops it's certainly not gonna be because of them
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>>342125419
>half-hearted Persona-lite
Personafags need to stop flattering themselves
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>>342125674
I would have a WiiU by now if all the game I wanted weren't censored
It's ridiculous.
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>>342118370

I genuinely would have bought this game if it wasn't for this shit, and I seriously mean that
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>>342125763
Too bad, that vocal minority is definitely this game's main audience.
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>>342118370
>no hot springs DLC

a-at least the gameplay is still good, right?
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>>342126028
Whiny manchildren who care more about anime panties than games themselves (sort of like SJWs and social agendas)? They're nobody's audience m8.
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>>342118370

>no subtitles for battle dialogue

This always fucking pisses me off, I think it was a Tales game I played where they had plotty dialogue in the battles and you couldn't understand any of it unless you selected English.
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>>342126197
It's actually very good, and a very good game overall.
That said you shouldn't buy it.
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>>342126309
ToS remake at least added in the subs

Localizers are just lazy.
And yes there is plotty dialogue in this game
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>>342125763

When your game is probably going to sell in the 100,000s at most, you can't piss off the people you'd rely on to buy the game, be positive about it and help maintain a long tail of sales
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>>342125763
Pretty much only loud minorities buy the niche animu games so it's not a good idea to piss them off.
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>>342126303
Yeah sure retard, go call peoples with standards who don't want to be cucked by companies "whiny manchildren", it sure helps your argument.
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>>342126465

Do they just expect reviewers to overlook not being able to understand key moments of the game?
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>>342125763
Word of mouth is deadly for your game when you're going to be selling below 200,000 units. I'm honestly surprised they went to the trouble of translating it at all when it sold like shit in Japan.
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>>342126573
Don't play the standards card because nobody in this site has them, I wipe my ass with it.
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>>342126669
No I think they recieved an excel transcript of all the original text in the game and translated just that.
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>>342126309
Battle dialogue means you can't understand the "I've got this!"and "Leave it to me!" like things they scream during battle. There are text boxes for when bosses actually talk to you.
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>>342105707
Because despite shitposting retards, even the Japs thought they were getting SMTxFE and didn't want this. They called it kusoge and ignored it.

All the Japs that would have played this own Vita's, not Wii U's.
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>>342105707
Nintendo fans only play nintendo games, this is the same audience that tanked Yakuza 1 and 2 HD.
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>>342126843
>There are text boxes for when bosses actually talk to you.
Sometimes, but not always

There are also regular side story sequences without any subtitles, so if they had to re-program those in it's no excuse to not have battle dialogue.

But we don't even know if those segments are subtitled at all
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>>342127009
>There are also regular side story sequences without any subtitles
Source
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>>342126985
>They called it kusoge and ignored it.

It got a GOTY award though
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>>342116329
>CENSORSHIP ONLY CHANGES THE CLOTHES NOTHING ELSE WHY DON'T YOU FAGS JUST BUY IT
>SO WHAT IF IT CHANGES THE STORY, YOU FAGS ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CLOTHES SO JUST BUY IT
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>>342117437
>>342106417
>implying

There's a reason AKB48 CDs hit first place on sales, they do eat this shit up, but they are usually not gamers, just creepy dudes.
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>>342126734
So that's it.
This is an argument of an outsider, so are you a Nintendo shill or just Reddit/Neogaf?
Either way, if you think /v/ is the hugbox you like so much, you need to fuck off. No one here think the same way about shit.
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>>342118370
>日本に生まれてよかったわー
>海外はグロ規制しないのにこういうのは規制するんだな


Fuck you too you slanty eyed shit head please let me in your country ;__;
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>>342116958
>nothing that made either great
>idol shit
But why
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>>342127293
AKB isn't some random new idol game retard, and the sale do in fact proves you wrong.

Peoples don't like idols for no fucking reasons.
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>>342127086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyJMnBRUo1c
At 2:32:27 (slight spoilers)

And no, the one who uploaded this did not hold R to hide the text boxes. It was without text entirely when I played it.

And this is not the only occurence
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>>342127142
>Implying Japan doesn't always have it's own Nintoddlers

I'm sure the 4 people who played it agree with the award :^)
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>>342127617
Holds a lot more weight that random GG shitposters imo.
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>>342105707
I've never seen this.
OF COURSE no one would cares or mind this right? Much less censor it?
Such a coincidence. Gee, I do wonder why.
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>>342127447
Tokyo 7th Sisters is a successful smartphone game with idols, without any anime to support it and it even has singles sold.

This is clearly an audience problem, just like Catherine sold more on the PS3 even though there were more 360 when it released.
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I wouldn't call it a failure. #FE is a bit of a special case where the game didn't do that great but it has left its mark in Japan. Months later the VAs of the game host concerts and sell merch so it's not a failure. There was a concert just this month actually
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>>342127617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMXJCjGApc
It's a great game, deal with it.
Of course that doesn't mean you should buy it.
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>>342125658
What meme? The game did flop in japan.
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>>342127472
Seeing as the music videos got subtitles I don't see why this wouldn't.
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>>342127796

Why are the faces in this game so... off? The art isn't exactly bad but there's a weirdness to it.
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>>342105707
This shitty game is a prime example why I fucking hate all those waifu shitposter here. #FE is what happens if you pander to autistic virgins who buy everything that has some animesluts on the cover. Pretty sure this game coul dhave been fucking great if it had a more serious setting like any SMT game. Heck, even that Persona 4 scooby doo shit high school would have worked, but what we got now is fucking pathetic.
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>>342127952
It's a game made for the most massive of otaku who just want cute girl pandering shit. Deal with it.

>>342127751
>GG

Who the fuck is talking about gaming journalism retard?
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>>342127874
For every successful virtual idol project there's 5 failed ones. Especially in videogames it basically never worked outside of games focused on the idol and dancing parts like IM@S
You can't just slap idols to a new IP and expect japan to take the bait.
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>>342127972
The music videos are actual video files on the games disc, they just had to hardsub those

In engine subtitles are a lot harder, especially when there weren't any in the original
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>>342128089
>It's a game made for the most massive of otaku who just want cute girl pandering shit. Deal with it.
>literally covering your ears and screaming
Watch the video, it goes way more than just into cute girls.
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>>342128089.
You're a fucking retard and you can't even pretend to try to get it.
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>>342128089
Now this is blatant shitposting
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>>342128078
Isn't the fact that Nintendo is NOT pandering to waifufags with almost naked animesluts what's causing most peope to complain about this game, though?
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>>342128078
Facebook is this way
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>>342128458
No it's the fact that they didn't pander to chuuni SMTfags and they instead try to do a game they wanted.

>It's only okay when they pander to me!!
Kek everytime
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>>342128459
>waaah, he doesnt act like a kissless neckbeard and still has a bit dignity left, f-fucking normie REEEEE
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>Game is announced as an SMTxFE crossover
>Game has first trailer
>trailer is literally nothing what everyone thought it would
>only way it's a crossover is the "weapon triangle" and NotPersonas and bosses being FE characters
>Nintendo keeps hyping it up like anyone cares
>meanwhile an actual FE game and various idol games are released in japan
>the game that alienated both the FE and SMT fanbases
>only hope was idol fanbase
>they already had a dozen other games made specifically for them

This is why it flopped
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>>342128624
I don't know m8, a lot of people seem to be mad about the censorship and, if they were to be belived, they'd be buying the game if not for that.
It seems to me that people were fine with the idolshit and moeblob. I'm sure they'd also be fine with generic highschool setting or super dark edge-galore, but that doesn't seem to be the issue with this one.
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>>342129446
The moment that made me lose it was this.
When they censor so hard just for the sake of censoring.

All the little trust I still had left for them was blown to pieces.
There is simply no excuse for this, not even if the people responsible quit their job.
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>>342129758
Wow, the music video where she sings with that outfit is going to look retarded. I can't wait for people to discover it.
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>>342130276
Yeah, I mean they even removed the transparency from her sleeves.
It is just beyond me how anyone could do this
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>>342129758
Right looks like a wedding dress. Left looks like fucking nothing anyone would wear. Maybe some kind of weird bird woman costume.
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>>342105707
Aside from not being what anyone expected, it's a fake waifu game; a game that tries to sell off of waifus but doesn't actually let you waifu anyone. Doesn't help that the closest you get is implied feelings with what seems to be the worst girl.
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>>342129758
here is my question, is the NoA CEO a Mussleeem?
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>>342129758
NoA has realized that some guys get a jolly off of armpits.
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>>342129758
gotta cover them disgusting shameful lewd biceps
can have that kinda sexual organ on display in a proud christian american nintendo game
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>>342130948
But then they show off their thick arms on the treehouse stream
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>>342121525
Let's move on to acceptance already. We've been at denial too long
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I think I might actually buy it because

>Wii U has fuckall for RPGs
>Looks like a solid one mechanics-wise

I mean if I don't buy it what's gonna happen? Will they stop censoring games? I think not. Nothing will change their mind sort of the whole society changing to become less cancerous. Nothing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

I remember getting hyped as fuck when I first watched this. Then we got the j-pop idol trailer, what a fucking slap to the face it was.

I wouldn't care if it was named something else but I don't get any Fire Emblem or SMT feeling from this shit.
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>>342105707
>FExSMT
>It looks and plays nothing like a FE game
>It looks and plays nothing like a SMT game
>Sold like shit
Guys, I think I found the problem!
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>>342131708
it's a fucking atlus RPG, of course it has solid mechanics.
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>>342131708
but you'll lose money you could have saved by just using loadiine instead.
Wii U hacking is the simplest thing ever
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>>342105707
idol shit is literally 8-14 of the same generic anime bodies with different clothes, eye color and hair style

you tell me why no one wants hatsune miku number 1 or number 2, 3, or 4
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This comes out in 4 days right?
I don't really care about censorship. How's the gameplay? I love MT and most of the spin offs.
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>>342131982
>no one wants hatsune miku number 1 or number 2, 3, or 4

miku is immensely popular though
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>>342132305
I used her as a genric metaphor because this idol shit is just a shitty miku clone
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>>342132052
>How's the gameplay?
a bit unforgiving until you get used to it
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>>342105707
The nips are wising up.
>>342110750
After at least a year.
>>342116132
>Splatoon was basically a cultural phenomenon
WEW, also it was made by Nintendo
But it did sell extremely well though
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>>342132052

typical fast-paced smt battles. no press turn, but if you've played strange journey the battle system is very similar to that. a lot of room for customizing your party's skills due to large number of skill slots, unlike the usual limited skill slots of demons. there's a hard mode. dungeons are all unique, so in that sense it is also similar to SJ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30nfka8J8Y0

:^)
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>>342132415
No it's not. For starters it's a dungeon crawler RPG
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>>342132431
Why didn't the Treehouse censor squid girls?
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Porn of the Aversa boss WHEN
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>>342132540
>the characters are the same shit over and over with different hair, clothes, and eye colors. The genericism is like a miku clone
>no its not miku is popular and shit
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>>342131875
It might be simple but it's shoddy as fuck. You need to do it every time you turn on the console, you need to change the DNS to block updates and mandatory future updates become a headache and on top of that the system randomly crashes when running the hack so you might need to try multiple times every boot.
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>>342132430
>>342132503
Sounds like a great spin off then, I'll probably pick it up.
Besides censorship, which is admittedly a problem but never one that keeps me away from games, why is /v/ getting so pissy then?
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>>342132545
Because it sold largely on loli/shota fanservice. Literally the only reason anyone gave a shit about their shitty kiddy arena shooter.
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>>342132720
>on top of that the system randomly crashes when running the hack so you might need to try multiple times every boot.
never happened to me, and I played #FE for weeks now

All the other things you mentioned literally take 1 minute
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>>342125674
I was planning on getting a WiiU for this back when it was still FExSMT
Strongly reconsidered when zipper panties were changed for the JP release and a definite no when a bikini was changed to some punk outfit
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>>342132801
>Splatoon is a shitty kiddy arena shooter

This is the kind of retard that posts in Nintendo threads everyone
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>>342130896
No, because the hair is uncensored.
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>>342132785
Because it's affecting both the visuals and story, and because what's being censored was the main focus of the game.
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>>342132920
Yes, clearly it was designed with adults who aren't pedos in mind.
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>>342132785
I'm actually grateful that they censored this game, would have never improved my Japanese so much without them
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>>342129758
I think Treehouse has been getting worse the more people make fun of them.
I mean, originally the censored stuff wasn't even that bad, and most of the lewd stuff in games like XCX got straight through.
But this is ridiculous. This outfit wouldn't even be censored on Lyn in XCX.
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>mfw Nintendo, IS, and Atlus have to live with the fact that had they made an actual fucking crossover, it would have sold millions
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>>342118370
I was actually going to get this game if it wasn't going to be censored

I'll just wait until it's cheap for used

Also
>no subtitles for battle dialogue

That's just lazy and horrible, goodness
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>>342132785

/v/ hates SJWs. they have reason to and I don't disagree that NoA is run by SJWs I'd rather have this game sell decent and encourage more similar games than have it bomb and get more mario. At the end of the day, I care more about the gameplay than the principle of censorship, but that's just my opinion.
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>>342128279
You should upload the kowashitai vid
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>>342133265
>This is Japanese audio only
>Persona 5 will be English audio only

Why do they hate dual audio so much?
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>>342133160
That makes no sense.
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>>342133363
just download the pack_050_movie.cpk file off the game's content folder and extract all the movies yourself
https://mega.nz/#F!gh01lJRC!jXz9eQNmaLtwO2siYKqOtQ
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>>342105707
>jpop idol fans
>Atlus fans
>Fire Emblem fans
>WiiU owners

You can mash together only so many niches without flopping.
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>>342133208
There's no guarantee of that however. A "proper" crossover could have sold pretty badly like #FE did.
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>>342105707
>>342118370
>I will never get to see Ephraim dueling it out against Serph

So this is true despair, I finally feel it
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>>342134052
There's no guarantee of anything in life

Some things just have better odds than others, and a "proper" crossover would have for sure sold more
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>>342118757
It has to do with our cultures.
The US's culture has a lot of roots back to puritan society, where the body was seen as especially sacred and sexual images were frowned upon.
Meanwhile, in Japan the body is seen as pure and sacred in a different way. Things that cause impurity are blood, sickness, and death. The wholeness of the body is worshipped in shintoism, so seeing it dismembered is to see it become impure.

No idea where the porn censorship of penises and vaginas came from though, since sex isn't that big of a deal in Japan.
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>>342132545
That's a good question
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