O-ok, Mighty Number Nine might be performing below expectations, but you're not gonna give up Kickstarter, right? There's still a lot of great indie games to support, like.. Hiveswap! The Homestuck Adventure Game. With more than 2.5 million dollars raised, there's no way it can be bad, right?
As someone who has backed a grand total of zero (0) games, there have been a lot of great games that came out of Kickstarter and there have been a lot of shit games that came out of Kickstarter.
This doesn't really change anything one way or another.
>>342103658
>biggest crowd funding game with the classic KS narrative flops
>It doesn't matter guys:^)
>>342103735
Have you forgotten when Double Fine's game came out and it was shit? You know, the whole game that started the fad to begin with?
Didn't stop Bloodstained and Shenmue 3 from getting a bazillion dollars.
Underworld Ascendant and Yooka-Laylee look like they'll be good
Not really interested in any other kickstarter games though
>>342103794
Thanks for proving my point. What little credibility KS had is dead now
I don't buy promises. I've never preordered a game or backed a kickstarter and I likely never will.
>>342103561
Genuine spoilerMega Man never reviewed that well
>>342103891
Me neither. I buy finished games like Shovel Knight, FTL, and Darkest Dungeon
It wasn't on kickstarter but I backed Skullgirls on PC because they were gonna put in TF2 items.
Then it turned out they didn't even actually have permission to do it and that put crowd funding projects into perspective for me.
wasnt the new Shantae a kickstarter?
that and yooka laylee are my last hopes for KS
>>342103561
Jesus Christ your falseflagging shitfuck, MN9 isn't the only kickstarter game in existence. Lots have been kickstarted and actually came out decent. Kickstarter itself isn't the problem, it's which project and who's behind it. The same could be said of any normal video game too.
>>342104068
The IGN review was done by a Megaman fan.
>>342103891
Wake me up when your claim is a verifiable absolute instead of just /v/-tier shitposting.
i backed the muv luv kickstarter for $250 and its coming along nicely
you just have to be careful
>>342103891
Kickstarter never had any credibility to begin with, it was always full of scam projects, and very few good ideas that ended up being released. That is the nature of the site, you can post anything, it is up to the backer to not be a complete retard.
You just started paying attention to it because of Double Fine or some other hyped project, like most of /v/ and other vidya communities.
>>342103561
Shantae exists
Pillars of eternity exists
Bloodstained doesn't look like shit so far and they are surprisingly fast
The reputation of kickstarter is not important, the reputation of the individual projects is.
>>342104346
You backed a translation project?
Wew lad
>>342105270
no, i played it years ago, i just wanted the physical goods that are really worth it value wise compared to how much it'd cost to import
>>342103561
Only games I've ever backed were Where They Cremate The Roadkill, and John Clowder has already made a successful kickstarter with Gingiva.
The other was the homestuck game because I used to be a gullible teenage faggot
>>342105512
what
System shock 1 remake is coming to kickstarter soon. I hope you back it
>>342105645
wot, you ok?
>>342105794
>>342105574
wait why did you delete your posts?
>>342103561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K67Wu4H8Fc
>>342105865
That was the great hotpocket in the sky
>>342105865
Actually mods are finally deleting this sort of shitposting
>>342105942
rip
At least Risk of Rain is great. I have only backed Tokyo Dark, but except for that, I always wait for the finished game.
>O-ok
Why do people write like this?
GOOD KICKSTARTER PROJECTS
>FTL
>Risk of Rain
>Shovel Night
>Undertale
>>342106259
Valdis Story is pretty good too.
Kickstarter for the most part is fine, so long as you avoid the shady projects. I don't regret backing the Wakfu Blu Ray set, the TMNT tabletop game, Numinera, or the Brawl in the Family physical books. I also loved Freedom Planet, Volgarr, Shovel Knight, and FTL on the game side of things, and I didn't back a single one of them, just bought them on release or in sales. Mighty No 9 won't cancel out the good stuff, just as the Yogcast game and the Sad Pictures for Children didn't kill it.
>>342106259
Expeditions Conquistador was satisfactory.
I think aiming at a small scale would help a lot of these overly ambitious kickstarter projects.
>>342103561
>Homosuck
>>342106630
>Valdis Story
>Good
This is biggest lie I have ever seen posted on /v/
>>342106259
Freedom Planet. Dust:AET. Ori and the Blind Forest
>>342103561
Hiveswap has been through a pretty fucking messy development process, and Hussie sure as fuck doesn't know how to play leader. All you can really do is take the good with the bad.
Personally I'm just hoping RtU doesn't turn out shit.
>>342106923
Valdis Story is fine outside of some of the strict platforming segments and grinding, although I can't remember how much the latter is actually mandatory.
>>342103891
KS itself is just a platform. Credibility lies with the backers.
It damaged Double Fines credibility, but not with everyone because they've had like 2 other successful projects since Broken Age.
It damaged Inafune's credibility to the point that his second project didn't get backed.
There is a part of /v/ that hopes Bloodstained will fail because they enjoy watching shit crash and burn, but if it is good everyone will enjoy playing it just like FTL, Freedom Planet, or any other not-awful KS game.
Because once the KS is over and the game is out, it doesn't fucking matter how it got funded.
To be fair the Homosuck game has had some messy dev shit going on, but yeh I can't trust most of the KS shit. Most devs seem to be focusing on the stretch goal BS rather than the core concept of their game.
>>342107404
>messy dev stuff
You do realize that that's entirely the fault of the creator, right? When hiring and licensing a project you have to do your due diligience. The Odd Gentlemen, the disasterous company that Hussie let develop Hiveswap, had has NUMEROUS problems in their past with licensing deals.
If he did so much as a cursory google search he'd be aware of them
>>342103891
>Get completely BTFO
>T-t-t-thanks for proving my point
My best and favorite project that I've back on there is definitely Shovel Knight. It beat out all my expectations on release.
>>342106259
I haven't backed any of these but I really liked Pillars of Eternity, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Shadowrun: Hong Kong and Banner Saga
Wasteland 2 was pretty decent too.
>>342104119
Yeah Half Genie Hero and Yooka-Laylee are both kick-started games. They both look fantastic so far, it's amazing what Platonic are accomplishing with a smaller budget than Mambo No 9.
>>342103561
>hurr hurr, this one failure among many successes validates my cynicism
I'm not giving up kickstarter, nor am I going to fund it mindlessly. If the devs have a good track record and have something to show or lose, then yeah, I might fund it if it interests me. This has literally never failed me, I have never been disappointed by a kickstarter because I don't fund people like Tim Schafer. I didn't even fund Bloodstained, which looks surprisingly good.
The thing with Kickstarter is that it's a haven for scammers, incompetents, and idea guys, so at least 50% (and let's be honest, it's more than 50%) of everything on Kickstarter is going to be a failure in one way or another.
That doesn't mean there aren't any successful Kickstarter games, and it doesn't mean that every game on Kickstarter is doomed to be garbage, but it DOES mean that you need to either be really careful with what you back and do some research before throwing your money around, or simply don't back anything at all and pick it up when it actually gets released.
I've backed a lot of games on Kickstarter and there are definitely some choices that I really regret in hindsight, but on the whole I'm still pretty happy with what I got.
>just realized i haven't heard any news of Ghost Song since february
ah fuck
>>342109247
Tell us about the shit you regret backing
>>342103561
It's starting to seem like Hiveswap might actually turn out alright. New writers and artists on the team look really promising. It's two years too late and they probably should have gotten those people a long time ago but whatever, I just want it to come out already.
>>342103561
>homestuck
Mc FUCKIN KILLYOSELF SU FAMILIA
>>342109023
cmon now with the porn faggot
>>342109247
>and let's be honest, it's more than 50%
just like real games
It's really not that hard to consistently kickstarter good game, use your brain, don't act on impulse.
>>342109452
Sure.
>CLANG
Fucking scam, I'm still mad about this. "Oops the game we made was shit so we're not giving it to you, sorry!"
>Jagged Alliance Flashback
To be fair this was a calculated risk since I knew in advance it would never be as good as the original games, but it was still disappointing.
>Project Phoenix
If this ever comes out and is somehow actually good, I'll eat my fucking shoe.
>Unsung Story
As above, except even worse. Incompetent devs making a shit game. Like a damn fool, I got tricked completely by the description and concept art of the game without doing the research.
>>342103561
It will be good, don't worry your OP. Surely Hussie could not fail us.
>Homestuck
If your project is so good, you should invest your own money in it.
>b-but it would cost too much!
Well that's why you start with a more simple game, and if you manage to get successful with its sales, you work on more ambitious projects with the money you've acquired.
Crowdfunding isn't all bad but it removes the element of responsibility from people working on the projects. I see it as a tool that can be used for good or bad.
I think the whole thing makes more sense for people with a reputation that want to make games like a dev from a big studio who's starting a small company, who would have a name to keep and a ruined reputation could ruin the sales of future games rather than some neckbeard nobody who wouldn't be harmed by a near scam kind of situation since the person has no reputation anyway.
>>342110069
>Surely Hussie could not fail us.
Are you sure you're willing to say that, after the way HS ended?
>>342109452
not him but I was dumb and sunk $100ish onto one of the 3d printer things (with the expectation that I'd get one at a later date). The person who ran it straight up stole all the money. I'm not against Kickstarter but Due Diligence, namely checking who exactly is running the project and if they will disclose their finances, is important.
>>342103561
Nontroll though, didn't hiveswap have 80% of its cash stolen by some company tasked with making it?
I thought I recall some big thinger about that 2 years back.
Fine young, Five young gentlemen or something?
>>342110153[S]Act 7 was legitimately good
>>342103561 That money was embezzled from them by the developers, The Odd Gentlemen.
>>342103561
>expecting a guy who makes webcomics for a living that couldn't even write a satisfying ending to his comic to produce a good game
>>342110395Homestuck hasn't been legitimately good since Act 5.
>>342110307
They got most of the money back, but they had to set up their own game company to make the game after that and it's been a mess ever since. Not to mention that the Fine Young Gentlemen didn't even start working on the game so they had nothing to work off of except concept art.
>>342110478
>Fine Young Gentlemen
The Odd Gentlemen.
Fine Young Gentlemen is something else entirely.
>>342110478
How did those fuckers get away with it? Just take a bunch of the cash and start walking with it during an official contract?
Sounds just mindblowing to me.
>>342110596
Probably has something to do with Andrew being an autistic fuck and not planning anything out like he does with every other aspect of his life.
>>342110471
Caliborn as a character is a literary masterpiece.
>>342110471Act 6 had a lot of great moments, sure the bad parts dragged it down but overall there wasn't much of a quality drop. The Alpha kids were pretty good aside from their shitty drama, Condie was a fun villain God rest her soul, and most if not all of the flashes were top tier, Trickster Mode notwithstandng.
>>342110596
They got an offer to make the King's Quest game which was far more profitable, so they spend all the Homestuck money on that game.
It's amazing that The Odd Gentlemen even have jobs at all, considering what they did with Neil Gaiman's game, Wayward Manor.
>>342110767
They scammed someone else too?
>>342110817
Yeah, Neil Gaiman.
They somehow managed to get him to work on a game with them, but they completely fucked up every aspect of the game. That's not the shady part though, since lots of devs make shitty games without actually being frauds.
The shady part is that they full well realised they were making an incredibly shitty game, so they removed every trace of it from their website and stealth released it under a dummy publisher, so they wouldn't have to put their name on a faulty product. Just like how they removed every trace of the Homestuck game from their site when they decided to work on King's Quest instead.
>>342110726
Who could possibly dislike Caliborn?
SOON
