>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
>"The story is actually really well written!"
>"Birth by Sleep's battle system wasn't bad at all!"
>>342088517
The story isn't that hard to understand.
The story is fucking terribly written shit.
Birth By Sleep's combat was absolute fucking garbage.
>There are people on this planet that play KH for the story after the first game
>>342088657
People sure as hell ain't playin' it for the combat. There's much better games if that's what you're looking for.
What was bad about the combat system about BBS?
It's been a while since I played it but I can't recall anything about it that made it bad for me.
Or am I in denial?
>>342088517
>just play the games
You mean all 8 games across like four systems that are all canonically sequeks?
No thanks
why is the story so retarded anyways. how did SE even manage to get this by Disney.
>>342088748
I meant in BBS, not about BBS. Jesus I need more sleep.
>>342088773
isn't a huge chunk of them on PS3?
>>342088657
chain of memories was good.
>>342088517
I love the KH series and I don't agree with any of this at all.
I love KH1's story though, the way they mixed in Disney with the original story was really well done. Bring that back with KH2's combat.
There's a guy in my uni that would say this with a straight face. He has that KH crown necklace and litterally walks around with a life sized keyblade.
The worst part?He has a qt gf who does the exact same
>>342088748
The melee in it was slow as fuck and it forces you to rely to heavily on spamming the command deck which most people will just load with Thunder Surge and Curaga since those are the two most useful attacks.
>>342088773
You literally only need a PS3 and PS4 to play all of them.
>>342088748
Not that guy, but my main problem with BBS battle system was its simplicity and ease. It's a 'press button for awesome autocombo' system with very little thought on playing strategically.
>the handheld games are critical to understanding the story
>>342089018
>It's a 'press button for awesome autocombo' system with very little thought on playing strategically
That's literally every fucking game in the series.
>>342089012
Explain this
>>342088517
I'll agree that the story is retarded, but BBS' battle system is hardly bad.
>>342089082
Do you wanna be here for about 3 hours?
Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand. I only feel it went full stupid with Dream Drop Distance with the time travel bull-crap.
>>342089047
>the handheld games are on a completely different fucking console then the main games and vice-versa
>>342088596
So which one is ansem again
The only good Kingdom Hearts is the first one.
>>342089190
nigga dey all ansem
>>342088517
Two out of three of those are true, quit being assmad because you were thrown out of the last thread.
>>342089190
Every non-disney villain that isn't a FF one.
I can't get into KH.
The abriged disney plots that just interrupt the main plot are too much. It doens't help it feels like a mary sue fan insert story with each disney world too.
>>342089190
Ansem is the old blonde dude you see in KH2 and calls himself DiZ in CoM and the early parts of KH2.
>>342088517
I want to cum inside Namine.
>story becomes convoluted and roundabout after the first game
>then they add time travel
>>342089281
This isn't a problem in the first game. They use the settings and characters of the Disney movies in a unique but believable way that also helps to further the overall plot. In all the other games however it is just a bland watered down version of the movie that you only really visit for the sake of visiting since that's the series' gimmick.
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 isn't going to have Kingdom Hearts 2 in it, right?
>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
who the fuck said that? that person is a big fat liar.
>>342089585
Nope
>>342089614
It is if you don't go in with the intent of nitpicking everything to death. Except the time travel, I can't even remember how it worked.
>>342089919
I'm not the guy you replied to, but if any story uses time travel or any kind of "dimensions" crap (like bioshock infinite), the story is immediately and iredeemably shit in my eyes. It's like the writers are saying "I am unable to connect these events or characters in any way that makes sense in universe, so I have to resort to this".
>>342089585
Why would it when the previous HD collection did?
>>342090210
The only Kingdom Hearts with some actual coherent story is the first one. Screw all the other ones.
>>342090418
Now that's factually wrong.
>>342090210
I never said it was good. I enjoy it for what it is, a silly ass ride. It's more fun that way. Like I said I can't even remember how the time travel functioned or how it was used. I think there had to be a body at each interval in time and you could only go forward. Fuck I need to replay these games.
>>342089256
Muh keybearer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmiWjG0N21w
>>342090707
ROXAS
>"There can be only one Keyblade Master!"
>>342089190
Everyone that isn't Sora is Ansem.
Everyone that isn't Ansem is Sora.
>>342090862
Excluding Ultima and post-game Keyblades like No Name, which is considered the best Keyblade in the series?
>>342091691
Decisive Pumpkin ;)
For design my favourite in Two Become One, only because they captured Roxas' design very well in it.
That and my favourite Kingdom Hearts character is Roxas
>>342091691
I don't know what would be the most objective one but I always loved the simplicity of the Kingdom Key and Master Defender
![--namine-kingdom-hearts-drawn-by-amethyst05--96025fb86a6aa80f669ef00eab3ee612[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HYQDjlj.jpg "--namine-kingdom-hearts-drawn-by-amethyst05--96025fb86a6aa80f669ef00eab3ee612[1].jpg")
Namine a cute!
>>342091916
>>342091691
Oblivion or Two Become One
>>342091813
That was my go to Keyblade in II. Although I preferred Follow The Wind in terms of design.
Honestly, I love the designs of the black Keyblades like FtW, Pumpkinhead, Oblivion. Mostly since they all had bladed tips, which is a plus for me. And while it is one of the weaker titles in the series, I love Astral Spark in Days in design and gameplay.
As for characters, Terra's my favorite. I also like Lexaeus as well. He's severely underrated and he barely got anything from the games he's in. Not to mention I love his weapon. It's like if Guts' Dragonslayer had sex with the Magnus Club from KI:U
>>342088734
Not him but even though there are many games with superior action combat, there aren't many games that do button mashing as right as KH does
>>342088517
>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
This is true tho
>>342091691
Decisive Pumpkin is considered the best by KH fan boys and speedrunners.
But anon, the story is actually understandable. It's just shit like 2 Ansems and TIME TRAVEL OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE that got retarded and hard to understand.
>>342089403
so deep in her belly.
>>342093403
Someone say Kingdom Hearts R34?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rv136b482r7eowd/AACDB4Ml2MRcdyVaNP5fmqh7a?dl=0
<3
>Entire YouTube channels devoted to this awful series
>>342093546>No r34 of guys
Fucking garbage.
>>342093708
Soraalam1 is pretty good
TGJ can go kill himself though.
>>342088517
>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
>implying this isn't 100% factual
>>342088657
II was okay but started the downward spiral, especially towards the end. BbS had the first truly mediocre/bad story. DDD was where it really jumped the shark.
The only reason I care about III is because I'm hoping Nomura will finally resolve the keyblade war.
>>342093829
I ain't gay bruv.
Plus I find when they put 2 or more characters from the same series weird.
It just gives me a odd feeling when I seem them fuck.
So I Sub-Conciously don't save that shit..
Sorry bruv
>>342094027
See them*
Sorry a tad tired as of recently
>>342090418
If you find the other stories incoherent you may actually be developmentally challenged
>>342093546
this is literally the third time i downloaded it thinking it was something different. all that fan art is trash man, kh doesnt have good r34 i have no idea why, i just wanna see someone edit that namine to have sexy hips and animate her in SFM is that so hard?
>>342089047
>>342089186
This is what triggers me the most. Not counting ports, you need a GBA and or a DS, a PSP, a 3DS, and a fucking japanese phone to know the whole story. Goddamn.
>>342094150
Neither do I.
Sorry about posting it so often.
I agree there should be more KHR34
Which the abbreviation of "KHR34" looks like a new KH game @_@
>>342094196
Good thing the HD collections brought the number down to two consoles from the same company with high install bases.
>>342094027
Also why the fuck are there cloaks at the end?
>>342089453
If you ask me, they should have stopped at 2. Everything was tied and closed. But the real jump of the shark is 3D. That's where everything got undeniably retard, with clones, resurrections, time travels, and whatever.
>>342094196
"Hey man what's new lore wise in the new game"
"Organization Pence is a thing"
"Thanks mate"
>What is human interaction
>>342094150
It can't be helped anon.
>>342094273
You mean Xion?
She's cute fuck you
>>342094381
Who?
>>342088825
KH1 being as successful as it was meant that Nomura got free reign to be a big a manchild as possible with every creative decision.
>>342094381
Never heard of her
>>342094268
Yes, which still triggers me because I already played them all bar 258/2 days (because literally everyone shits on it), RE: com because of the phone thing and later I heard it's 100% pointless except for the very ending, and 3DS because I kinda ran out of steam. So if I wanted to catch up I'd have to buy again games I completed at least twice.
But admittedly, that's just my problem. Objectively speaking the ports are a good thing.
>>342094490
>>342094417
God dammit.
I have failed you
>>342088517
>"The story is actually really well written!"
No one says this.
I like how ost of the male characters are just reskins of each other and not 3/4 of the female characters are too.
>>342094692
I don't agree 100% with you, but admittedly many characters are alternate versions of the same guys. so they kinda have to look similar.
KH's story is stupid, yes. But in that B-movie sort of way. You know it's bad and dumb, but you just gotta keep watching(playing) to see what happens next.
No one thinks KH's story is good. Except maybe underage morons, but we just keep going with the series to see what the fuck it's all building up to.
Because you know in 3, we're finally gonna get to see what Kingdom Hearts itself actually is, and what's inside it. There's no way they'd take us on this 8 game ride, and not give us some sort of payoff.
My guess, when Xehanort opens up KH, either 1 of 2 things will happen. 1: literally nothing happens, and Xehanort's wasted his whole life for nothing. 2: the universe resets itself and all the worlds are pulled back into the original world they started as.
>>342094490
>>342094582
>>342094417
I don't get it.
Never bought a DS
Roxas > Sora > Ventus
How can one person have such garbage taste?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoBVL8oOKOo
>>342094905
She's a literal nobody
>>342094915
I agree
>>342094830
>we're finally gonna get to see what Kingdom Hearts itself actually is, and what's inside it.
I don't get what's the big fuss about this. I think it's pretty clear that's where all hearts come from, and they're probably going to pull the "it's made of both darkness and light" shit. yes, there hasn't been a clear definition yet, but it can't be nothing more. It's just a glorified McGuffin.
>>342088596
It is.
No it's not.
Kill yourself you piece of fucking shit.
>>342094982
How so?
I get the whole "Nobody" thing, just like what happened that made her all nonexistent more than she already is?
What's wrong with BBS's battle system?
Why do people not like Sora's character in KH2? I get DDD, but KH2, he seemed fine.
>>342095063
Sora absorbed her and everyone forgot about her.
>>342095127
Oh
Thnx
>>342094830
>No one thinks KH's story is good.
In a way, I would say that it is simply by virtue of being able to enrapture as many people as it has.
People care about the characters, they care about the world and the lore.
Even if you claim to only follow the narrative to "see the trainwreck" or "watch how crazy it gets," it's still captured you and invested you, hasn't it?
That you even propose your own personal ideas of what will happen next tells me you have an investment, that you've given actual thought to the story.
And a bad story doesn't do that to people.
>>342095063
Xion is a Replica created with memories, making her existence tied to those memories.
When she was defeated, the memories she was made up of returned to their original place, which basically dissolved her entire existence and unlinked her from the chain of memories
>>342095071
https://youtu.be/UhcqCIWc2wY?t=24m40s
>>342094150
>kh doesn't have good r34
Maybe you're just shit at searching. I have plenty.
>>342094830
Oh shut the fuck up, you're one of those faggots who follow /v/'s memes and you're just repeating the same fucking shit retards say on here.
>wah i dun like it but i mist follow it wahh uhh muh ride
>>342095124
They don't? I thought he was alright in KH2.
I get why people don't like how he is in DDD and I agree.
>>342095368
>Hello I cannot think for myself so here's an e-celeb's opinion
>>342095197
Anon, dont pull that card. You know full well what I meant. And no, just because I'm making up bullshit about how this all will end doesn't somehow make the story "good."
>>342095368
>here is what happens
>i'm going to tell you what I think makes more sense and what should have happened
>blah blah blah
>>342095387
>giant anime asses walk over to two girls sharing ice cream
>>342095487
I mean, yeah, the story has flaws and the writing isn't perfect, even straight-up bad at times (I mean, Days itself was just a travesty).
But the point remains that a bad story can't do the things that KH's has done.
>>342095387
>follow /v/'s memes
I don't even know what you're on about, but stop it. KH is stupid. I know it, you know it. Don't try to bullshit me. The only reason I keep up with the series anymore is because I know this shit is gonna end in a really dumb, cliche anime way. I just wanna know what kind of anime ending I'm getting here.
This always perfectly sums up the KH Bullshit.
simple concept, terribly written and stupidly explained. Especially when goofy disney characters have to explain this kind of FF bullshit.
>>342088517
Who are you quoting?
>>342095885
>simple concept, terribly written and stupidly explained.
But this is the manga and that simple concept is explained simply in the game
>>342095959
Basically everyone in this thread.
>>342095885
Holy fuck why haven't I seen this before, it is perfect.
>>342095640
Would you shut the fuck up already and stop acting like you're above anything? No, I like the series and I enjoy the story to it's fullest extent. Your reason for keeping up with the series is completely and utterly irrational and is fucking stupid as shit. You either liked the series in the beginning, and now you're going "nostalgiafag" for the rest, or you're acting like you're above whatever the game is offering just like most of the shitposters on here.
>temporarily banned for posting image spoilered
Really? Get the fuck out, moderators. I see people fucking posting porn SPOILERED all the time.
>>342096118
>I see people fucking posting porn SPOILERED all the time.
And they probably get fucked too
No porn on blue boards
Spoilers don't save you, tardo
>>342095885
You just have no idea what you're saying and you look fucking dumb as shit doing it. Just add stupid and dumb and you're good to go, right? Also, that picture is fucking amazing.
>KH1
>Actually mostly Disney
>Anything else
>Less Disney, more fuccbois
>>342096190
>spoilers don't save you tardo
Guess not, but I'm invincible. They are fucking garbage at whatever they do, and I can keep coming back easily. I've been banned probably over 100 times.
>>342089272
>Who the fuck we gon kill nigga?
>I dunno try to kill Da ansem!
>Nigga dey all ansem!
>Hello square Enix support? How do you kill ansem in KH?
>Consoru or Handherd?
>FFFFUUUUUUUUUUU
>>342096201
>DON'T CAL MUH FAVOURITE SERIES STUPID
>Y-Y-YOU'RE S-STUPID
Top kek
>>342096245
>I see people fucking posting porn all the time
They can't catch all the shit that comes through. A better rule of thumb is not to post something that will trigger someone enough to report you. I posted CENSORED, SPOILERED thread-relevant porn once and got banned because it was___homo___
>>342096245
It's okay anon it happens.At least you didn't get banned for something that was completely SFW..
>>342096396
>Blah greentext retardedly
>add world of warcraft laugh
I feel bad for you.
>>342096414
Well, everything is retarded. Moderators can suck my fat fucking dick, and whoever decided to report me can go fucking kill themselves.
>>342096118
Are you really this upset because I think KH is dumb? I'm not acting like I'm above it, I already said I still enjoy the series. It's dumb and anime as all hell, but that doesn't mean I hate it.
Take a damn time out and just calm your tits. I'm not insulting you personally when I call the story dumb.
>>342095885
>mfw it's real
Alright then.
Not sure if anybody knows about this, but there was an official KH Tribute album that was quietly released a while ago, if anybody wants me to upload it.
Here is one of the songs, it's a remix of Traverse Town.
https://youtu.be/lVid38iO4sY
>>342096797
>that remix
No thank you
>>342096797
I hope the rest of the album isn't as... lackluster as that remix.
>>342096873
>>342096920
God damn you faggots have shit taste.. holy fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIIttBko7AA
>>342096996
>hear typical techno chimes
>expect interesting jazz-techno fusion
>nope is straight-up sugar pop garbage
They're right, pham.
>>342096996
This is even worse.
>>342096797
>>342096996
Calm down, faggot. The first track is utter garbage, a mess of sounds with no rhythm at all, and you can barely recogniza what the original was.
Second one is marginally better, but just because the first one is dreadful.
We got it, you made them.
>>342096996
>>342096996
>you faggots have shit taste
That remix is nearly seven minutes of an 8-second loop, where's the rest of the fucking song?
Traverse Town is longer than that. And the remix of that very specific segment is alright, but holy fuck you can't just loop it for seven minutes and call it a successful composition.
The few times it deviates, it feels like fucking glitch when the rest of a jazz-EDM fusion, it isn't cohesive, those interludes have very little rhythm to them and don't lead in or out naturally.
It's too long, too samey.
If you took all of the separate pieces of the song and fit them into a 2-minute arrangement, it'd be 1000% better.
And this remix...
>electric guitar with driving drums playing more or less the same rhythm
>stutter effects and breaking rhythm everywhere you might expect for that sick dank metal flavor
For a series with such memorable, unique and well-constructed pieces, this is a really disappointing offering.
And I don't even know that much about music.
I can't imagine what the autists at /mu/ would think.
>>342089082
Nimoy's master plan is to assemble an entire council of himself through contrived bullshit that takes a million games to explain; including time travel, rape*, and complex suicide.
(*Sticking it in a younger boy against his will. And by it I mean his "heart".)
>>342097203
>>342097253
>>342097257
I have never seen such garbage taste in my life.
Those weren't typical techno chimes. I like the original but the electronic version sounds good to me in my opinion, especially at parts like 0:45, 1:20 where you hear the nice melodies but otherwise none of you probably have a taste for any kind of electronic music.
>>342097253
Are you fucking serious?
>>342097257
The first track isn't utter garbage.
>mess of sounds with no rhythm at all
2:20? Eh, that could have been better, otherwise you're completely over exaggerating. There is rhythm. I recognize the original very well.
>We got it, you made them
I fucking wish.
>>342097328
Kill yourself.
>>342097528
>That remix is nearly seven minutes of an 8-second loop, where's the rest of the fucking song?
That doesn't make sense. Are you saying the song only had 8 seconds sounding like the original? I guess so, but the entire vibe of Traverse Town is still very recognizable and there. I don't know what you are talking about looping. There is none.
>>electric guitar with driving drums playing more or less the same rhythm
Wrong.
>>stutter effects and breaking rhythm everywhere you might expect for that sick dank metal flavor
>breaking rhythm
You really don't know anything about music at all. That was fantastic.
>>342096505
Someone sounds mad.
>>342097739
>We got it, you made them
>I fucking wish.
then stop annying us with this shit that only you like and go sucking his dick, idiot
>>342097739
Jesus anon you're only digging yourself deeper
>>342097852
Apparently it was received very well, you're the few who don't like it. Shut the fuck up moron.
>>342097863
You really like to repeat the most cliche things when there is nothing else you can say.
>>342097739
Dude, the stuff you posted was bad and people here agree. Stop being asshurt.
>>342088517
The story is easy to understand, it's just plain shit
>>342097981
Then I have superior taste. A few people disagree here, but more people like it than not. The music wasn't bad whatsoever.
>>342094503
>58/2 days (because literally everyone shits on it)
Really? It wasn't that bad, and that bit at the end with xion hit me in the gut hard
>>342097739
>>342097739
>Are you saying the song only had 8 seconds sounding like the original?
None of it really sounds like the original, but I'm talking about a very specific part of the song which I timed to 8-seconds, and it is repeated ad nauseum throughout the overly-long 6 minutes and 42 seconds.
It starts are 0:13 and ends at 0:21, only to be looped back again and this happens far too often.
>I guess so, but the entire vibe of Traverse Town is still very recognizable and there.
No, it's not. I honestly didn't recognize that it was Traverse Town until I had heard that loop for about the fifth or sixth time.
And without the title, I'm not sure that would have been enough.
>I don't know what you are talking about looping. There is none.
When a piece of music ends and then starts immediately again, that's a loop.
And that happens a lot in that track.
>Wrong.
Good counter.
That's literally what that track is.
It's immediately recognizable because there is very, very little different.
It's a fucking metal cover.
As if we don't have enough of those.
As if they don't all sound the same.
>You really don't know anything about music at all.
I don't have a very good music lexicon, I will admit, but I'd like to believe that you can recognize what I'm talking about.
I may not know how to speak about music but I know when something is played-out, clichéd tripe or a poorly-constructed, lazy remix.
You want to see good covers, arrangements and remixes of Kingdom Hearts songs?
Listen to Piano Collections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61f18Grwup8
This tribute album is... almost insulting.
But I will check the rest of the album.
It's entirely possible you have the worst taste imaginable and cherrypicked the worst tracks from the album.
Dearly Beloved is already much better than both Traverse Town and Rage Awakened combined.
>>342098105
it's fucking terrible, and so is your taste.
>>342098105
>A few
Literally everyone in this thread disagrees with you
Fuck off Australian
>>342098105
Those likes on youtube don't mean shit here.
>>342088517
You could remove Xion and literally nothing about Kingdom Hearts plot would change.
Oh wait that actually happened.
Is this one guy trolling? I refuse to believe he's that retarded.
>>342088517
>Birth by Sleep's battle system wasn't bad at all The magic in that game was fucking excellent.
>>342088748
Towards the end it can be difficult fighting multiple enemies at the same time(although I struggled more due to handicaps), but I think that it's more than manageable. I don't know. I preferred BBS over KH2, for example.
>>342090707
YOU'RE A FOOL, SORA
>>342098256
>None of it really sounds like the original
It's a tribute, it doesn't need to. It's for the fans who have already heard the original music, and want to hear something newly done with their favorite songs, and I for one absolutely love them.
> very specific part of the song which I timed to 8-seconds, and it is repeated ad nauseum throughout the overly-long 6 minutes and 42 seconds
Are you talking about something playing in the background?
>It starts are 0:13 and ends at 0:21
I still have no clue what you are talking about, seriously. You are sounding immensely pretentious to me, as if there are things in the music that shouldn't be there.
>No, it's not. I honestly didn't recognize that it was Traverse Town
I recognized it right at the start. The "electronic trumpet" sound sounds like a higher pitched version of the original themes "doo, da doo da doo doo doo dooooo".
>When a piece of music ends and then starts immediately again, that's a loop.
There is none.
>it's immediately recognizable because there is very, very little different.
So basically you're just growling at me because the music doesn't sound extraordinarily different? I have never heard a metal cover as good sounding as this. It's seriously amazing the way he follows the pattern of the original song.
I have both piano collections released for the series. I like the Tribute album because it's different, really different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyQK7BSIt0
After being on /v/ for so long, I really can't tell what is what anymore. At this point of the chain I can really understand why some of you didn't like it anywhere near compared to the original, as if the music gives off this "mainstream" vibe, because right there you showed me the piano collection, and, well.. anybody will love those.
>>342098298
>>342098357
>>342098472
>>342098845
Kill yourselves.
>>342088517
>>342088596
What was wrong with BBS? Never played that one, but I was considering picking up 2.8.
>>342099360
BBS is in 2.5, DDD is in 2.8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydsRodHpho
>la la la la la la la la la
Ruins the track which was otherwise great, it's repetitive and pulls focus away from the instrumental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyQK7BSIt0
This track is great. A new flavor on top of the original rhythm, arranging multiple pieces together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7t9Hps4nM4
INFINITELY better Traverse Town remix, the shift around the 1:00 mark is great. Combining the instruments of Under the Sea with the tune of Traverse Town is strangely brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3HAFsz0aGI
A faithful but heartfelt rendition, the excessive length is mitigated by the regular shift in tone and instruments. Gets a little noisy near the end but I don't really mind it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh6BFZhQfL4
This is actually pretty rockin'. Gotta love a well-done chiptune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lPMeFso-EQ
Gotta say I'm really digging the ones that mix different tracks together.
Better Dearly Beloved than earlier, though after that it gets a bit too wubby and muddled, hard to actually recognize that tune as Hollow Bastion
The Always on My Mind bit kinda feels rehashed out of the other track a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8FwQLf3Nvc
MUCH better metal remix than Rage Awakened. MUCH better, more inventive, more rockin'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZX7Ac9YvDs
I'm not a fan of that percussion to be honest, but there isn't a whole lot necessarily wrong here. It works.
This autist literally gave us the worst tracks on the album.
>>342099151
>I still have no clue what you are talking about, seriously.
I gave you the fucking time code to isolate the tune I was talking about and you still can't recognize it? It's literally the part where it starts sounding like Traverse Town, and it's that specific 8-second tune that loops throughout the entire track.
Jesus Christ man. How in the honest fuck do you not know what I'm talking about?
>There is none
Are you trolling me right now?
It happens ALL THE TIME in that track. The very first time it shows up, it's looped immediately.
>I have never heard a metal cover as good sounding as this
You're listening to a lot of shit metal covers.
There's literally a better one on the same fucking album.
>>342099537
>>342099537
holy shit the shilling is in full force
>>342088517
>Need a Playstation2 for KH
>Need a PSP for BBS
>Need a 3DS for DDD
>Need a PS3 for the remasters
>Will need a PS4 for KH3 and the new shit
What the fuck do you think I am, a millionaire?
I've been wanting to play Dream Drop Distance for years but fuck hell if I'm going to buy a 3ds just for that.
>>342088517
>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
It is. A lot of people seem to have trouble paying attention to a plot these days.
>"The story is actually really well written!"
No one thinks this. We all know it's a mess, we just enjoy the mess.
>"Birth by Sleep's battle system wasn't bad at all!"
Kinda yes and kinda no.
>>342099151
Now this one's better, albeit not by a whole lotespecially toward the end., but better than the other shitty two you posted.
>>342099675
>>342099740
I've honestly never heard the album before in my life.
I'm not a huge fan but it's easy to see that that guy just has supremely awful taste because every single track is better.
Not every track is great, and I won't be downloading the album anytime soon, but they're all better than what he offered as a representation.
>>342088517
The story is not well written or anything special but it's not hard to understand as some claimed.
No commend about BbS's gameplay as I don't play it yet.
>>342099775
You can emulate most of the shit on that list, faggot
>>342099836
I don't believe you and I will not submit my ears to such a cacophony
>>342099537
>>342099585
>likes 13th struggle remix more than the rage awakened one
>and I have shit taste
Oh fuck you faggots.
>>342099585
>From 0:13 to 0:21
I hear the electronic trumpets, and the background where it's like some sanctuary music ahhing up and down. I don't care, it really doesn't fucking matter.
I'm not listening to a tiny loop, I'm listening to the song altogether, and altogether it sounds great.
Not really, metal is one of my favorite genres. Rage Awakened is easily one of the best I have heard.
>>342089047
This is where the whole "KH is confusing" trend got started. Most people skipped CoM, thinking it wouldn't matter. But it did. Without it, KH2 is confusing to you, because you missed part of the story.
>>342099894
The best track on the album, in my opinion, is The 13th Struggle.
Kinda feels like 13th Struggle filtered through Hazardous Highway.
>>342099962
stop selling, shill. Your poison lies on deaf ears
>>342099836
>>342099962
>supremely awful taste
Rage Awakened is still better, and Traverse Town is one of the better remixes I've heard. Kill yourself.
>>342099890
Not DDD which is the stopping point I specified you colossal faggot speedreader.
>just play the games
>just
>just buy 13 different consoles and 208937 games
Shit man I just wanted to visit Disney Worlds
>>342095038
begone, creature
>>342099537
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydsRodHpho
Please kill me now. What did they do to my Dearly Beloved.
>>342100116
you can just buy the final mixes you fucking pleb
1.5
2.5
2.8 coming out soon
>>342099924
>I'm not listening to a tiny loop, I'm listening to the song altogether, and altogether it sounds great.
The song altogether is largely that tiny loop.
It gets very old very fast.
Outside of that loop are gross, messy bridges without rhythm, and an interlude that basically takes the original piece and puts a drum on top of it.
It's gross.
>Rage Awakened is easily one of the best I have heard.
It's incredibly lazy, predictable and straightforward.
I would even go as far as saying that such a cover has no business existing because it does so little to take advantage of the original material.
If there were a free online metal remix converter, this is the result I would expect. It's that formulaic and robotic.
>>342100062
You actually have some of the worst musical taste I've ever seen, and my sister is one of those people whose entire music library is informed by the Billboard Top 10
What's your favorite band, anon?
>>342094286
Well, Nomura don't expected it to be that popular so he have to bullshiting his way out of the story for the franchise to continue.
>>342096265
I really liked that post.
>>342099775
3D is coming with the new remake.
You literally only need a PS3 and a PS4 now.
Stop making this seem like such a big deal now.
>>342089186
>>342094196
>>342099925
FUCKING THIS! This infuriates me, wtf were they thinking!
>>342089082
Basically, the Big Bad has an evil master plan that requires the cooperation of multiple individuals. But he only TRUSTS himself. What to do? Fragment your fucking soul and create copies of yourself by injecting it into other people. Half of the Council of 13 are actually secretly ONE GUY, and the others don't know about the surprise brainrape dick they're gonna get.
Over the course of KoH 2, you actually kill all the non-Bad Guy clones, doing him a favour.
>>342099925
CoM can be skipped. 2 gives you a real quick rundown of the basic gist of CoM plot, and that's really all you need.
>>342100135
Here
>>342100425
2 doesn't explain shit. When I was a kid I was confused as fuck. I get it NOW but when I first played it as a teenager I had no idea who any of these people were or wtf was going on
>>342100425
>CoM can be skipped.
>2 gives you a real quick rundown
Neither of these are true
>>342092923
>mash buttons for two seconds
>get stuck in a cutscene
WOOOOW
>>342100504
I maintain that playing II without CoM is actually a better experience in some ways. Yeah, they could've eased you into the whole Roxas thing a bit more gradually and had more clues/exposition on the Organization, but it feels more organic if you're in the same boat as Sora.
>>342088517
>Birth by Sleep's battle system wasn't bad at all!
This is a lie.
Everything else is true tho.
>>342100425
Tell me what happened to the other like 6 members of org 13 from the context KH2 tells you
>>342100504
>"About a year ago, some things happened."
That's all I need to know.
>>342100686
It tells you they're dead. Which is honestly all you need to know for the plot to continue
>>342100192
Why can't you like the originals and that one?
WHAT THE FUCKS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? It's like this place has the worst fucking taste in everything.
>>342100296
I don't see it, I really don't. There is no 8 second looping that constantly loops over and ruins the whole song, no, there is nothing like that at all and the song itself sounds greatly done as an electronic alternative to Traverse Town's theme.
Everything has rhythm, I can dance to the rhythm, I can hum to the rhythm. Those "messy bridges" are a part of the electronic genre that break up the rhythm in a unharmful way so it still sounds good.
>It's incredibly lazy, predictable and straightforward
Are you.. are you fucking retarded? The piece of music follows the original song exactly with perfect riffs and sound that mesh with the emotional impact of the original piece. There really was nothing they could have done to make it unique or better than the original but by actually putting in the effort and emotion the original had but with a different twist, metal. 1:45 always gets me. It is fucking perfect you fucking faggot.
>because it does so little to take advantage of the original material.
>wah can't recognize it
>wah i can recognize it
You're a god damn fucking moron.
If my music taste is abysmal according to you, then I wake up everyday to pussy in my face.
My favorite band? maudlin of the Well.
I'm now tired of arguing with you. I'm going to go and end it here and deeply regret ever asking any of you if you wanted me to upload this album. For fuck's sake I'm just getting tired of 4chan in general. I need to fix my damn life. I'm leaving the thread.
KH games that can be skipped without missing anything truly important
CoM
Days
Coded (fuck you, it's useless save for the very final cutscene)
>>342100686
In Jiminy's journal, it says those members are dead or missing for the reasons of whatever bullshit happened a year ago.
Holy fuck, can we stop this pointless bitching and musical taste circlejerk and just post awesome Yoko compositions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICvr93Bz1S4
>>342100990
Nobody asked you to post the album, though
You did that all on your own
>>342100990
Good riddance, have a pity (You) for your very well thought out arguments
>>342100990
/mu/ the post
IIIIIII LOOVVEEEE YOOUUUU JESSSSUUUUSSSSS CHHHRAIIIIIISSSSSTTT
>>342101114
Don't post Yoko outside of KH on a KH thread.But keep going.
>>342100990
>Why can't you like the originals and that one?
Because the original is good and this one isn't.
>>342100365
As if I'm gonna buy a PS4 only for DDD.
>>342100990
>There is no 8 second looping
I suppose you must be deaf, then.
>Those "messy bridges" are a part of the electronic genre
Which is why I called them almost glitch, because that's an EDM genre with unconventional patterns and rhythms and in this track, it has no place.
It's disruptive and inelegant, there's no reason for it to be there. It doesn't sound like it belongs.
>The piece of music follows the original song exactly
That is what I'm talking about.
A cover that follows the original exactly has no identity of its own. It's boring. It's unoriginal.
Yes, covers are the same song but they don't have to be IDENTICAL.
Check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWPQQbldFjw
And now, the cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ns0DurApM
You can tell the cover is a cover, but it feels different and unique, it's its own song.
That's what a cover should be.
>My favorite band? maudlin of the Well.
Oh my God
You have to be /mu/ to have taste this irredeemably awful.
>>342099537
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8FwQLf3Nvc
Aaaaghhh my ears
>>342101114
>>342101363
Yoko is the only reason I'm looking froward to XV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU2RAAKoo9c
What is with /v/'s obsession with this awful franchise?
>>342103387
10 years and still no KH3
>>342102129
Does FFXV look like it's going to play anything like KH? With this action RPG style and compositions by Yoko, I'm getting KH vibes
>>342103387
We're in too deep to quit now.
>>342088517
>Chain of Memories' battle system wasn't shit!
>>342104329
It wasn't.
>>342104329
There's a difference between "I don't like this" and "it's bad"
When you look at the mechanics and design of CoM's gameplay, it's a good game.
However, it's a huge departure from the first game and the rest of the series, and it has a low skill floor which discourages learning the nuances of the system.
So naturally it doesn't sit well with veteran players.
>>342104397
>>342104510
It made the battle slower. I love games that require good reflexes. God Hand, Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, etc.
>>342101284
Nah, people don't get this fucking upset on /mu/. They just fuck with each other a lot.
>>342099775
>Need a 3DS for DDD
Watch the 3 or 4 story-relevant scenes from DDD, and you can play Chain of Memories and BBS on a PSP. Problem solved. Your PC can probably emulate 1 and 2.
>>342104662
>KH2 requires good reflexes
>spam reflect, mash X, and heal
>good reflexes
Jesus Christ. Kingdom Hearts doesn't require good reflexes, either.
>>342104329
I'm a sucker for card games and card battle systems in RPGs, so I really enjoyed it. Riku mode actually gets challenging in some parts.
>>342104510
>veteran players
Isn't it the second game that came out?
>It's a fun lighthearted adventure
>>342105239
You only need to be in one war to be a veteran
>>342105309
>>342088517
How can someone said KH is easy to understand? Is a complete clusterfuck, and it doesn't help the games are (were) divided in 3 different platforms.
>>342105568
>How can someone said KH is easy to understand? Is a complete clusterfuck
Because it's not and every single game tells its story in a completely straightforward and easy-to-digest manner.
The only time it breaks that rule is DDD's endgame, which Nomura recognizes as a misstep due to fan feedback that it was hard to process.
But mostly that's all about how it threw a bunch of concepts and revelations at you without giving the audience time to breathe in between. Had it been spaced out more, it wouldn't be a problem
Which Xehanort gets the X-blade after they create it?
>>342106075
>"every single game tells its story in a completely straightforward and easy-to-digest manner."
>A game that has villains stand at balconies and beach coasts and say vague lines that you don't know what they mean until maybe 80% into the game, if you care.
>Where said villains use time travel to revive themselves from the dead, and do keikaku bullshit involving time travel and clones to get what they want
>Completely straightforward and easy-to-digest
The first game was, maybe, but BBS? DDD? Fuck no.
>>342088517
I don't get why people feel the need to even defend KH's story. It's a complete mess. It's one of the few cases where "just turn off your brain" is a legitemate point. I hate thinking about KH, but I love "feeling" it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53bXpBv6ySw
>>342106430
>A game that has villains stand at balconies and beach coasts and say vague lines that you don't know what they mean until maybe 80% into the game
Foreshadowing and non-linear storytelling are not new concepts nor do they make things difficult.
Flashbacks aren't hard.
Do you really think the game's story should just be 100% step-by-step chronological events?
Do you even know how boring that would be? How disjointed and poorly-structured that would be?
I mean, it would completely ruin BbS alone.
>The first game was, maybe
No, it absolutely was. There is no question about it.
>BBS?
You honestly would have to be a child to not fully grasp the story of BbS as it is presented to you.
>DDD?
If they had structured the lore and exposition dumps better, then yes.
>>342093868
NIPPLE ACTION
>>342088517
The story is so fucking twisted I've lost interest after playing everything up to DDD.
The story is not well written, its "my friends are my power" bullshit.
Whoever said BBS's battle system wasn't fucked up in one way or another doesn't know what i-frames are and how retarded they are in games like BBS.
I think the biggest question that needs to be answered is this:
How many people here can actuallyfeel Sora?
>>342106967
DUDE! SCREAMING AND SAYING RANDOM WORDS IS FUNNY! LMAO!
>>342106967
>that acne on his forehead
Also can we all agree that anyone with gauged ears is a retard?
>>342089018
Retard
>>342107045
I admit the ending of DDD finally made me realize too just how insane the story of Kingdom Hearts is. Especially with the whole "Turn everybody into fat faceless old man clones," scheme.
>"We're going to turn all of our teammates into Xehanort."
>"Why!? Why would you want to trade in your identity to become Xehanort!?">"I already am half-Xehanort."
I honestly said out loud, "Oh fuck off," when I got to this point in DDD.
>>342100304
He didn't expect a maship of iconic Ff and goddamn Disney characters to be popular? He didn't think SE or Disney would be the type to milk it?
>>342107495
>implying that wasn't the best part of the game
>>342089012
I think I get the others but how the fuck are Saix and Xigbar Xaenort?
>>342088657
Depends on what you mean by "story". The plot and everything there in? Nope. Hanging around in the setting, meeting disney characters and enjoy progressing within that setting? That's probably why most ppl play it.
>>342107567It was.That's not to say it wasn't still ridiculous, though.
It's such a waste that she died so early
>>342091691
In general it would probably be Decisive Pumpkin due to how amazing it is in every situation.
In KH1 it was for sure the Ultima weapon.
In KH2 it's Decisive Pumpkin. It increases your damage with each successful hit in the combo, and since any time you can actually attack something you stunlock it for the duration of the combo there's no reason to use anything else.
In Re:Coded Zero/One and Ultima Weapon are basically tied, Targeting Scope and Heavy Blade are amazing, but if you want to exclude Ultima Weapon then Zero/One by a mile. It doesn't have garbage like Sonic Arts or the one that Cloud's weapon has which makes everything way slower and it has amazing skills to boot like All Critical and Heavy Blade.
In BbS I'd say for Terra it's that one that drops his magic to -2 but strength to +12 or something like that(Chaos Ender? Eater?), for Ventus and Aqua I guess it's either Mirage Arena Keyblades or the one you get from Vanitas Sentiment(Though that's technically postgame)
In 358/2 it's whatever the final Keyblade was that you unlock since it has high crit rates and you can throw even more of the crit enhances on it.
From what I remember of DDD I don't think the one you get from Julius was worth using at all and the Ultima Weapon was the best one.
Simple and Clean was the best theme.
And no. That shit from 2 was not better.
>>342088517
>"Kingdom Hearts story is easy to understand if you just play the games!"
This is pretty much true though. 3D is really the only one that throws people for a loop. Time Travel did not needed to be added.
>"The story is actually really well written!"
I'll agree that some parts aren't well written.
But other than that KH isn't hard to get at all. If someone needs help understanding, ask away.
>>342107669
Xigbar/Braig has been conspiring with Master Xehanort since Birth by Sleep. This is really evident if you watch his model during the game, he starts out with brown hair and regular ears. By the end of the game, it's clear that he gets Norted because his eyes change to yellow and his ears are pointed.
YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BETRAYED US
>>342108236
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
>>342108709
YOU DON'T HEAR ME SAY
>>342107495
DDD bothered the F out of me.
The story just went even crazier than it already was.
It bothered me that Mickey says "wait are you?" When young Xehanort attacks him while everyone is stopped.
Also Xigbar seemed effected by something when he talked to Sora.
DDD didn't explain shit.
KHBBSFM gave a ton of insight of what was to come, DDD on the other hand told you about the Xehanorts and that was fucking it. The secret movie literally told you shit anyone that played KH2 already knew.
>>342108867
PLEASE OH BABY
>>342090707
DUHHL WIELD
>>342107160
>Can you feel Sora?
That line really didn't translate well in English.
>>342109112
DON'T GO
>>342109245
Was it more palpable in Japanese?
So Kingdom Hearts is pretty much the Naruto of gaming, correct? Or is it Bleach?
>>342109312
Double meaning in Japanese.
In english it's just "You touch boys, senpai?"
>>342109284
SIMPLE AND CLEAN IS THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT
>>342109415
Well what was the double meaning? If you don't mind me asking.
