Where were you when you learned robot armor was being added into a WWI game?
Right here in your thread
>yfw you learned WWI was a real thing
Don't forget about all those black Aussie soldiers
Medieval inspired experimental armor
Observe.
>>342063346
Where were you when they were teaching the semester of WW1 in modern history in Highschool?
C'mon man, at least make your shitpost convincing.
The french had these Iron Clad suits in trench warfare, but were way too heavy to traverse the mud and slopes resulting in many just falling over and drowing in the mud under their own weight.
It was a huge part of the war. I honestly don't know how you can miss that, or shitpost in hopes that any person doesn't already know why.
>>342063801
>>342063346
Is that a German Sniper mask?
>>342063801
>>342063895
AUTOBOTS, TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!
>>342063850
>Playing Battlefield 1 multiplayer
>Finally unlock the full plate armor
>Equip that shit
>Take 2 steps
>Fall down in the mud
>Die of starvation
Why would they add armor that was proven to be ineffective?
>>342063346
>robots and negros won WW1
>>342063850
>huge part
>not successful
que?
>>342064580
rule of cool, man. Same reason there's semi and fully automatic weapons everywhere.
will there be a plugin to remove black characters?
>>342063567
>tfw you still don't know why WW1 happened
Some Austrian guy died, I think.
I think people seem to be forgetting that battlefield 1 is basically following the same formula of battlefield 4. Let players have access to guns/gadgets of the era, regardless of faction availability and circulation. In the end Battlefield is just an arcade FPS so i'm not sure why people are getting mad over it
>>342065341
I think its fucking sad there are more bolt actions in BF1942 and Vietnam than in BF1 is what I think.
so if I'm gonna get bf4 should I get premium?
Reminder that WW1 did have SMGs and semi-automatic guns, and that the game was in a pre-alpha build with no content.
>>342067501
>pre-alpha
>>342067501
reminder that of the millions of people who fought on the front lines in ww1 90% used bolt guns
>>342063346
Where were you when you learned BF1 is WW2 set in WW1 locations?At my desk watching the gameplay stream
>>342067164
because bolt action rifles fucking suck
yes it's not historically accurate, but Kid A is playing BF1 with a submachine gun spraying shit everywhere while Kid B only has access to a bolt action rifle with no scope. Kid B is not having anywhere near as fun as Kid A
tl;dr they're designing the game around fun, not historical accuracy
>>342067914
Then what the fuck is the point of setting it in WW1
>>342067914
>"hurr battlefield has never been historically accurate guys"
>the other games in the series have more bolt actions than BF1
>DURRR bolt actions fuken suck dude wtf? we just want CoD with grey coats
Fucking kill yourself you retarded faggot bitch.
>>342063648
rip preston
At this point, I don't care how retarded the lore or story will be. I just want a BF game where the play is gud and the bulk of the content isn't being held hostage behind DLC walls.
>>342067203
I don't know. Most active servers are still the vanilla, legacy, community maps. I guess the Last Stand and Dragons Teeth are active too because they dished those out for free from BF1 reveal to E3.
>>342068041
Fresh aesthetics. How often do you see soldiers drive around with their RC car blowtorching people
![post-34986-0-84504600-1440897243[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8i8ZOCx.jpg "post-34986-0-84504600-1440897243[1].jpg")
>>342063346
Well since they're going full "everyone with experimental shit", I wanna be able to wear this US experimental WW1 armor.
>>342067914
>because bolt action rifles fucking suck
Fuck off.
>>342067914
fun is a myth
>>342068657
that looks so heavy metal
I need more!
>>342068592
You're cancer. They should've just made a ww2 game.
>>342065056
A man named Archy Duke shot an Ostrich because he was hungry
>>342067914
red orchestra 2, a WW2 game, has more bolt guns on the field than BF1
bolt guns are fun as shit so long as most others have them - same as SMG's.
>>342069151
>A man named Archy Duke shot an Ostrich because he was hungry
And then the Emu's in Australia became enraged and the great Emu war began.
>>342069104
It would effectively be the same thing so I don't see the problem
>>342069339
>dignity
>>342069317
You know nobody would be able to hit anything with a bolt action on console. A majority of their customers are on consoles now so it wouldn't make sense to make a game where those people can't actually kill anybody
Battlefield WE WUZ KANGZ edition
>the best content is locked as DLC
EA always does this and people keep giving them money, sad.
As a history buff this game makes me fucking gag
WW1 was the sacred no man's land of shooters and now we have this shitty meme company fagging it up and ruining the time period
I really hope it bombs but it won't.
>>342067682
And in the real world the only weapons the USMC uses are the M16A4, M4A4, IAR, M249, M240G, and M9, but for some reason you almost never see any of those weapons actually used during gameplay.
>>342067501
>WW1 did have SMGs and semi-automatic guns
95% of soldiers used bolt action rifles
>Playing Battlefield for accuracy
Well there's your problem.
Sniper rifles in BF1 is bolt actions with scopes.
>>342070181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkest_of_Days
>>342063648
>Black
>Aussie
I'm pretty sure boongs were still considered fauna back then and there weren't no africans living in Straya
>>342070447
When everyone clamors over a game with World War 1 setting but uses it more as an aesthetic, I am going to be mad as shit.
>>342070851
Dude, this is the series where I can pull stupid shit like;
US Marine armed with a Chinese PDW, a Soviet era rocket launcher, a civilian market handgun, a signal flare and blowtorch, with winter camouflage in an urban environment.
Using a WWI SMG in WWI isn't much different.
>>342070181
Verdun already exists
![ef1e2ad4e25a6a785128ccff81b217a7-orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S1W6qHQ.jpg "ef1e2ad4e25a6a785128ccff81b217a7-orig[1].jpg")
>>342069079
>>342071323
those armorers knew that byzantium had already fallen right?
>>342063648
Technically correct. Many aboriginals served in the Australian imperial forces during the 1st world war.
![9AYU5T0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7B2WByQ.jpg "9AYU5T0[1].jpg")
>>342071521
Maybe.
>>342071698
>>342071662
Aboriginals aren't black though, in fact I think they're actually genetically the most distant race from Africans and they have the largest portion of Denisovan DNA
>>342068657
How is that "experimental"? It's essentially plate armor without the hauberk. Been around for a thousand years.
>>342070348
And wouldn't that make for thrilling and diverse gameplay.
Apologize.
>>342071662
Only half castes
So I'm looking at all this shit for WWI plate armor and...
Someone actually thought that would work?
>>342068286
You say that
But the French forces are being held back as premium DLC
>>342063648
His hat is wrong to be an Australian.
>>342067914
Then why are they trying to sell it as historically authentic.
>>342071732
What is this pic from?
>>342071837
Not true.
Many full blood natives volunteered for service. They were initially mostly used in the light horse as hands, but later as the war took it's toll they were enlisted in almost every non-command job.
>>342071830
No, this game as fucking shit.
>>342071830
Is that nigga wearing a doo-rag?
How is this Battlefield?
>>342071830
>cops and robbers battlefield
How did they manage to fuck this up? I wanted it so badly. I wish it wasn't dead on PC.
Wait, wasn't the Mad Minute an established tactic at this time?
>>342071876
the war started with soilders going in with horses and bayonets and it ended with tanks and planes
![582353d1381756494-us-wwi-m-8-experimental-helmet-2013-10-14-055345[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7ykW3lf.jpg "582353d1381756494-us-wwi-m-8-experimental-helmet-2013-10-14-055345[1].jpg")
>>342071783
Experimental means still in testing.
>>342063648
Except that's not an Australian troop you blithering idiot. They're not even in the game.
>>342072094
Dark souls 2 concept art for the Royal Swordsmen
>>342072094
Dark Souls II Royal Soldier.
I am convinced the only reason for WW1 is to market trench coats to fedoralords wanting to play dress up.
>>342071830
NO, the game is shit-tier
>>342072076
I'm pretty sure they aren't. They've gone on record before saying they design their games around fun before authenticity
>>342068657
>>342072229
US soldiers came so close to looking like nazis
>>342071006
Its barely even a WWII smg. It got to the front lines 2 months before the war ended and even then there were only a handful. They took part in nomajor battles.
>>342072240
They are
The British Faction have separate ethnicities for its classes
Sikhis are in the game, as well as Canadians, Australians etc
Also, Jamal is now a Jerry
>>342065056
yeah, if you ask me falcos death is more than enough to go to war for
>>342067914
>Being surrounded by black people is fun
>>342072461
Phone corrected wwi to WWII
>>342071830
Hell no BF4 shits all over it. Even console kiddies roasted this piece of shit game. BF4 after all the patches shits all over this game so bad.
>>342071813
You sound like you've never played Verdun friend.
>>342071753
Dont they look more black than white though?
>>342072461
Again though.
When was this series ever accurate?
>>342072696
Oh I'm not saying its a bad idea. But from the game devs point of view, some fuckers don't have the attention span required to play a game that doesn't involve full auto spray and pray.
It's all about attracting the sales.
I'm so glad the autistic /v/ arma core kiddies here don't design video games.
>>342072706
Sure they're dark skinned but ethnically they're not black which refers to Africans
>>342072793
Who gives a shit? This is the first time wwi is being brought to the mainstream and dice literally made it into a meme
Is anyone else more pissed they're not diverging further from real history?
Like I'd care way less about inaccuracies if there was plenty of crazy anachronistic shit, and maybe the SP plot revolved around zany time travel hijinx. They seem to be presenting this as a serious story though, meant to be taken if not as fact, a reasonable facsimile of what really happened, and that's what bothers me. There's tons of shit wrong, but the average Joe's not going to notice them. And likely start calling you a bigoted shitlord for pointing then out.
![tumblr_lg8voesFNX1qcaiw9o1_540[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fRKhVUQ.jpg "tumblr_lg8voesFNX1qcaiw9o1_540[1].jpg")
>>342072460
How about this?
>>342073090
It's almost like a mainstream company is trying to market for a mainstream audience. Fucking. Shocking.Seriously of all the shit to blow your lid over you pick a fucking series that was never known for accuracies
>>342073143
>arrite arright, how's about... we put a hubcap on 'is 'ead?
>brilliant! but what about his face?
>we'll just wrap some cardboard 'round it!
>wow, you're a genius sir!
>>342073039
>forced color culture
What about indians?
Arabs?
You dont really consider east asians yellow, do you?
>>342063346
It's fine, people wore armour in ww1
>>342073138
this is the real issue
we're going to see every casual mcfuckface become a ww1 expert overnight
>>342073352
dude who even cares about history? all that stuff happened so long ago it doesn't even matter lmao.
>>342073715
Because Battlefield games are known for there amazing, totally accurate and researched stories. Right?This series hasn't had a good campaign since Bad Company and that upsets me.
>>342073648
What about them? "Black people" is just a term which traditionally refers to Africans
>>342073926
You've posted the same thing 3 times mister
>>342074091
What else is there to say?
You're expecting realism from fucking Battlefield.
>>342073997
What about Abos, Indians, europeans?
YOU GOD DAMN FUCKING RETARD.
Can you even GET any FUCKING stupider? You are literally, LITERALLY, a fucking moron.
You STUPID, UGLY, DUMB FUCKINGwallabee.
I WILL FUCKING FOOT PUNCH YOUR UGLY MUM'S CUNT YOU DUMB BOONGA.
>The armies of WW1 had invincible terminators wearing plate armor and carrying gatling guns
>The armies of WW2 carried around bolt actions rifles and threw potatos
What happened???
>kids will now think WW1 was fought like BF1 guns blazing and blacks not chained up
>>342074247
Good message you donut
>>342074248
The Jews
They could have made WW1 fun while staying out of trench bullshit and representing era armament better
But who am I kidding less work more sales, EA's 1st commandment. Why design a new experience when you can serve the customers pig slop.
Kinda funny no one flipped out over Valiant Hearts.
>>342074248
>invincible terminators
>trip on a rock, fall
>cant move
>die
>step on a puddle, too heavy, foot stuck
>cant move
>die
>get shoved by accident by fellow soldier, fall to the ground
>can't move
>die
>trench too tight, armor too bulky, get stuck
>cant move
>die
>gatling gun jams, have no other gun because no pockets or backpacks or pouches
>die
>>342074861
thats because its a good game
>>342074372
BF1 was at times a mobile war.
One of the iconic moments in the history of the ANZAC was their light cavalry charge at Beersheba
>>342074696
I wish they got more heat for not including the French in the main game and selling them off as DLC.
I mean, fuck, I am American and not having the French in a WW1 game, at least in the base multiplayer is fucking dumb as shit.
>>342074952
>implying walking over to the enemy tench and falling into it to pin enemy soldiers under yourself wasn't a strat
>hey guys, we're making a WWI game!
>it plays exactly like a WWII game with lots of mud everywhere though
saying it was WWI was just to make people think they were finally doing something different.
While i agree that BF1 isn't looking too hot, i think the complaint that "Kids will learn wrong things about WW1" is the dumbest complaint.
Fuck Kids and people that take videogames as gospel truth. It isn't the developers responsability to try to teach people that can't think by themselves.
>>342075194
WW1, Modern, WW2, 2143
Battlefield is Battlefield, especially any BF post 2142. They would have to restrict classes so everyone isn't running around with the automatic weapon class to make BF1 good.
>>342074984
first thing you gotta learn is that people don't know shit about ww1, people know about ww2 because it's been in a 1000 movies
i'm into war, guns and whatnot and even i didn't know shit about ww1 until this game was announced, you can't expect the playerbase which is mostly adolescent to be bothered by historical inaccurracies when they don't know shit about the event
>>342075284
I would say they are
But some of the semi auto rifles have versions which have a full auto fire mode
I shit you not
if we aren't even being even a little close to historical accuracy, what EXACTLY is the point of setting it in WW1?
>>342075319
If you know about WW2 then you should at least have common knowledge of WW1 since WW1 basically led to WW2
>>342075484
The "We are fucking different guys!" card with added diversity nod. Now Jamal too can fight on the Western Front for the Kaiser!
>>342075484
I guess just new guns that people haven't used before.
It's basically the same appeal as a sci-fi setting, but with a "nostalgic" aesthetic instead.
>>342075484
it's a fresh setting at least.
i'm bothered by their deliberate choices of shitting on history to make the game appeal to a broader audience but i'm still glad to see a shooter that isn't current times/sci-fi
>>342075484
It's the only setting DICE hasn't covered yet. They even did fucking cops v criminals before WW1.
Actually did they do the Korean war?
>>342075484
>what EXACTLY is the point of setting it in WW1?
ea's attempt at selling you a stale fps as something new
>>342075484
everyone will think it's different
>>342074984
Agreedand also burger. Primary factions should have been French and German, everybody else comes second. Russia gets a close third for being very significant but bowing out early. (Also they don't have teh kewlest gunz so that immediately disqualifies them in Dice's eyes)
I don't know what the fuck they're thinking. The Harlem Globetrotters I'm actually fine with; they want go that direction, whatever. I don't mind if they want to tell a regiment's story if that's what they want to tell. Just for fucks sake keep the actual main characters in.
You could argue they made the primary guys American because dumb american sales, but then why have ANZAC or colonials in based on that logic? The people who think America did anything in ww1 except swoop in at the end and provide meat aren't going to know who the fuck ANZAC are, or what the fuck colonials are. I half think it's due to DICE's swedish self hatred at this point, but I'm still somehow willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
What's next? WW2 game where the Germans are DLC and the main side for the axis are the Bosnian Kebab SS?
>>342070267
Armies around the world have access to millions and millions of these different weapons, while they keep to a select few to compare the purely experimental and extremely limited (to even 1 or 2 prototypes for many of these BF weapons) to modern day armaments is completely stupid.
>>342069367
WW2 was nothing like WW1 unless you mean the WW2 game would be exactly like what EA made with BF1 in which case you're right, that's probably why he said it.
Why make a WW1 game if its just like a WW2 game.
>>342075484
If they did any other period they would have to One Up their previous game
This way they can be lazy and blame all limitations and failures on 'its a new time period!' even though its literally WW2.
Its that simple
>>342075484
To be fair, people did wear armour in the field.
It was too cumbersome, only protected from pistol fired from hundreds of meters away, but they wore them.
>>342063346
Source? Or you just post a picture of a guy wearing a helmet and calling it robot armor?
>make a WW2 game
>say its WW1
?????
>>342075830
I find it funny that DICE keeps on saying they are taking a risk by making this game while I just see using Battlefront's data and making it for WW1
What is the risk of making a WW1 game when you avoid certain aspects of WW1 due to its time period.
It really seems like they are trying to make the game take place during the last German offensive, which would mean no Russians what so ever.
And I still feel sour about each side having French tanks, French arms, but no French soldiers.
Fuck off DICE, if you can't stand the prep time, go for an easier recipe
>>342071732
That is a sexy sord
>>342076356
Well, one could consider them to be a single war!
>>342063346
in the past, months ago
>>342071876
If you are sitting behind an MG.08 in a fortified position it makes sense to be up armored. You want your gunner to stay alive in the hail of shrapnel from grenades and god knows what else. If your suppressing fire isn't very mobile, its more cost effective to keep the operator alive, hence the use of armor.
>>342067914
>because bolt action rifles fucking suck
truly BF1 is catering to the call of duty audience
>>342075969
It sounds more interesting
>>342076367
What does a well crafted recipe matter when the masses don't have anywhere near the amount of taste-buds as they do IQ points?
Fuck you, you know what I mean.
We both know there's nothing like selling shitty watered down crack vidya to dumbass consumers.
FUCK
And what the fuck is up with some of these sights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeYEHoi5agM
Why are the tickets going up
What the fuck is up with that voice
What did Dice do to Conquest?
>>342076697
>>342075284
this is what i miss most about battlefield
teamwork and vehicle balance was best when there was 7 classes with minimal loadout changes
>>342076889
I REALLY hope they change the UI design and voice.
The Unity/skyrim/whatever method of making things minimal and sleek is so fucking trendy but it does nothing to set the tone of the game. Makes me so mad, because ww1 has amazing fonts and esthetics already created for them
Appropriate
I actually wanted to play a game where 9/10 people were stuck with bolt actions, would have been fun as fuck.
Here we are with a fucking WW1 game where more people have semi-automatic rifles and submachineguns than motherfucking WW2.
>>342076897
having only 2 classes with anti-tank capability, commanders with destroyable artillery and all that was so fun
>>342077097
Some of those semi-auto rifles have full auto versions in the game
>>342077229
So we have fully automatic battle rifles which are essentially treated as assault rifles, in a WW1 game.
Truly astounding.
>>342076889
>People using the bayonet charge simply as a way to run even faster or as evasion
DICE, you dumb motherfuker. You can't balance for shit
>>342077097
you'd probably really like Red Orchestra, it's not 9/10 but the SMG/LMG/Sniper classes are limited so most people have to run around with bolt actions.
I hear Verdun is also good at this kind of gameplay but I haven't tried it.
>>342077395
>People using the bayonet charge simply as a way to run even faster or as evasion
it was the first thing that came to mind when i saw it, use it to get into cover quickly
>>342071876
It was pretty effective against bayonets and shrapnel.
>>342077097
>what is Verdun
>>342077569
Verdun is pretty good with weapons and weapon balancing. Overall though it's not a very accurate WW1 game in turns of gameplay, and it can be really repetitive, and that's because of the back-and-forth attacks instead of having battles be strictly asymmetrical attack and defense, like in Red Orchestra.
>>342076889
Google doesn't bring up a fucking thing for that Remington M10 sights, so I'm assuming that's what you're talking about for inaccurate sights.
Either way DICE doesn't give 2 fucks about historical period accuracy anymore.
FUUUCK.
I really like the country side being ripped apart by war, that's a nice remembrance from BF1942.
I don't fucking know. I'll probably end up buying this cunt fucker of a game either way. At least I'll be able to to use a bolt action again despite all odds and not be labeled a useless piece ofPOMF I'm helping SENPAI. AIRHAEIHFDSJHF DJSHF KDHFJSKDHJSF KDSHF JFYUCK YOU GOD DAMNIT WEABOO FAGOOT FUCKER CUNT NIGGER
Pass the fucking whiskey...
>>342077882
Last time I played in 2015, the optimization was absolute ass, so I refunded it.
Has it gotten better?
>tfw WaW had more bolt action rifles being used than a game set in WW1
>>342073679
I think this is gonna be in BF1
>>342073926
This series DOESNT NEED a campaign, silly.
>>342078214
I think it's amazing personally. Jumping into the enemy trench and clearing it out gives such a rush.
>>342078538
THIS remember Battlefield Vietnam
>>342077906
The attack and defend method Verdun has is a pretty good way of getting rid of 'snipers' who sit at the back and do nothing since there's no one to shoot at if the enemy team is defending in their trench.
>>342078741
BF1942 + Expansions
BFV
BF2 + expansions
BF2142 + Expansion
No campaign necessary nor wanted
Remember when Battlefield had bots?
That was fun as shit. There's just something satisfying about loading up a game of 64v64 bots and just wrecking shit for hours.
>ITT uneducated shits not knowing about Ned Kelly
>>342069339
>0 Emu Commanders
Imagine if they had some leadership
>>342074983
this
western front was mostly trench warfare but eastern front , alps front and middle eastern front where all pretty active
>>342067501
>>342067682
I'm so excited for bolt-action rifles again, definitely my favorite part of WW2 shooters.
>>342079301
>thinking Ned Kelly's armour is anything similar to the full body armour in OP's post
>>342079542
All of the bolt-actions are only sniper rifles
every other class has SMG's, automatic rifles or machineguns
>>342075743
They haven't done korea or gulf war.
>>342073138
I think this guy has it right. It's either you actually go full historical or you just cut the shit and don't even pretend it's historical.
>>342079649
Fug well dropped I guess. What's the fucking point of setting it in WW1?
>>342072198
by not giving a shit
>>342079720
NEVAH BEEN DUN BEFO
>>342079720
It means you can claim to be doing something revolutionary without actually designing a new game
>>342079649
Medic and Recon get bolt while the medic gets semi where some of those guns also have a full auto version
Then you have Assault with SMGs and Shotguns
Support gets LMGs
>>342079685
battlefield 2 basically covers the 80s-00s anyway
>>342079831
So what I'm seeing is
>Recon is just sniper rifles
>some of them will probably also be semi automatic
>Medic can use bolt actions, but everyone is really just going to pick the semi auto or automatic rifles instead
>everyone else has MG's and SMG's
GR8
>>342079953
pretty much
>>342079720
Because it's Risky™
>>342068592
They need to add drones that spray chlorine!
>>342063346
Killstreak gonna let you call in the Red Baron
>you don't get dogtags from bayonet charges
>bashing someone with melee weapon doesnt give dogtags unless you're perfectly linned up to do an execution
>executions are shit
>hitting people in the back isn't a one hit kill
its SHIT
t. 1300 knife kills
>>342079649
Has this been confirmed? Every time someone mentions it fewer and fewer classes have bolt action. Started off as everyone but scout classes get bolt action, to only medics, engineers and snipers get bolt action, to now just sniper get bolt action.
I'm now 90% sure everyone's pessimism is using their ass as a hand puppet.
>>342080651
From what I understand every class has access to bolt action rifles as well as semi's and full auto's.
The issue is why would anyone pick a bolt when your opponent is rocking a semi / fully.
>>342080819
the satisfaction of the kill m8
>>342080819
I can forgive the SMGs and full autos if they give players decent incentive to use bolts. Hopefully they're inaccurate as hell, jam constantly and do low damage. I dunno. SOMETHING. I'm trying to be optimistic about this game.
>>342079649
>>342079720
Fucking retard,
DICE already said that bolt actions were going to be a weapon all classes can use, and most likely they're not going to be sniper only.
>>342080819
According to people who played the game, the SMGs are really shitty for anything other than close range.
Semi-auto, most likely more shots for less damage
>>342080651
>>342080819
Only 1 class in BF1 gets bolt actions.
Another gets a semi-automatic.
But thats it.
>>342081151
boltguns will be 2 hit kills
semis will be 3 or 4
rip
>>342081184
>>342081151
Considering what we've seen there's 0 incentive to use bolts and everybody uses the automatics, its just BF4 with a different paintjob as expected.
>>342081301
>>342079831
>>342079649
>/v/ lying about video games again
The scout gets a sniper rifle (which existed back then)
Bolt actions are its own gun and can be picked for all classes
>>342081403
Its because they got retarded CoDfags to play who run around like jackasses doing nothing. One of them flat out said that the SMGs are only good for close range ala a shotgun
When the game is actually out, and people who know what they're doing get in, then you most likely won't be able to use them.
What bothers me more is that it can be seen from miles away that it's a direct copy paste from Hardline with just different aesthetics.
And then they are marketing it as >BATTLEFIELD RE-IMAGINED, ALL NEW, NEVER SEEN, WE INNOVATED, CREATED THE WHEEL AGAIN.
>>342081590
>its a copypaste of Hardline
>its a copypaste of Battlefield 1
>its a copypaste of Battlefront
/v/ is trying really hard to shut the game down
>Make a WW2 game
>Call it a WW1 game
I cant believe they're going to get away with this.
>waaaaah why is there more then one kind of gun
>waaaaah why isn't every map a trench
>waaaaah why is there variety in my games
>I-I just wanted Verdun
God, /v/ is absolutely unbearable
If you researched at all you would see that the bolt guns all have different 1 hit kill distances
there is one that kills close up like 5-10 meters
one that is a little farther than that, and one that is like medium range
The art of the bolt action will be finding this range and using it for one hit kills
Also battlefield is much more reliant on tactics than COD, in cod i equip a pistol and go to town on other players, just running around and killing, in Battlefield I communicate with my squad and take certain buildings and points to help my team win, I'm sure there will be balance in the game and apparently tanks are OP as of the pre alpha, so right now we shouldn't even be worried about the SMG's, they aren't long range, they are for noobs and you shouldn't care unless you are shit at the game
>historical accuracy
yea the guns existed and were used, maybe not that often, but its great that they found cool weapons to give us
imagine a game based on the civil war, there would be lever action and revolvers, but also gattling guns and black powder rifles, these would all be made to fit into slots that are known in modern games, perhaps a revolver could be shot fast enough to be like an SMG, and a black powder 50 cal could be a sniper, and you would have shotguns and other things to replace trip mines and grenades
I like to feel handicapped in a game, like i am going up against big odds, but the game needs some diversity of weapons (and not diversity of niggers)
>>342082510
this
if you wanted verdun , go play fucking verdun then
>>342082637
No, if they researched at all they would know that the "bolt action" gun in the gameplay isn't even a traditional bolt action rifle. Its a fucking sniper rife, which is why it was used at long range.
But no, leave it to the autistic realismfag who like to sit in trenches for 40 minutes.
I wonder what the campaign is going to be like. I do hope it doesn't start in 1917, after the most interesting parts of the war were over.
I want to storm Belgian forts to the thunder of railway artillery.
>>342082510
>market a game as ww1
>actually its not ww1
>>342081660
but they all are basicly the same damn game based of bad company
that was the last new BF game and everything after has been expansion packs and balance patches. they also like to add lighting filters so you think they actually did something
>>342063567
Why pray tell do you think it's called World War 2 if there was no World War 1?
Are you retarded?
>>342082942
They have guns that were in fact manufactured in World War 1
>b-but they were never used
Fuck off. I wanted a WW1 game that highlights the best of World War 1 and what could have been possible if the war lasted a year or two longer.
If I wanted to sit in a trench, I'd play Verdun.
>>342063850
>huge part
Yeah no. Fag.
>>342083142
>the best part of WW1
>if the war lasted a year or two longer
Pick one
Or just play a WW2 game if you think running and gunning with vehicles everywhere is the best part of WW1.
>>342083367
ww1 wasnt all trench warfare you know ,
the alp front , eastern front and middle east front where mostly running around and armored cars
Où sont les Français dans le jeu ? Il n'y a en pas de tout.
>>342083367
Oh look, another retarded American showing off his shitty education system.
You know WW1 was more than just trench warfare and bolt guns right? SMGs were produced, and fighting outside of the trenches did occur. I thought that a game where you would be able to use this hidden gems of weapons would be great, and actually had depth to the game and show of WW1 like nobody has seen before.
But nope, you autistic fuckers just want "Verdun with pretty graphics"
>>342083489
The only relevant front was mostly static after the first months of maneuver warfare. Then it became trenches interrupted by massive offensives that gained a few miles at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.
>>342083507
dlc lancé apres la release pour les rajouté dans le multi
merci EA
>>342083652
The first submachineguns entered service in the last few months of a 4 year long war. They were hardly widespread. The same goes with all of these one-off semi automatic and automatic self loading rifle prototypes.
They should have just called this "Battlefield: Secret Weapons of World War 1"
>>342083834
>>342083489
It still happened, and it still existed.
They're allowed to use anything WW1 related and not have it be alt-history as long as it was used or happened.
Again, how is adding complexity to a game and showing off the hidden parts of WW1 a bad thing?
>>342082510
>Literally shilling for Call of Duty Modern Historical Revisionism
>Calls others unbearable
>>342080651
Not even half of the retail version weapons were available in the E3 build.
>>342084164
>historical revisionism
>the guns in the game were used and manufactured in war
Okay anon
>>342084209
>two times the same gun
>just had the class next to it
>there theres more guns !
fucking hell EA
>>342084257
>Everybody fighting with automatics like its Call of Duty is how WW1 was
>Blacks being everywhere across all the European armies with 50% representation is how WW1 was
'kay
>>342083489
>>342083652
>h-he disagrees with me, he must just want boring trench warfare!
There's a difference between authentic open WW1 warfare and "everyone has an smg and runs around with no clear front and tanks are supermachines"
>more than just trench warfare and bolt guns right?
>bolt guns
With the exception of machine guns and much later trench guns, yeah it was literally only bolt actions.
>SMGs were produced
They certainly weren't standard issue though, at any point in the war.
>be able to use hidden gems of weapons
>had depth to the game
What a bullshit excuse. Why try to market a game as WW1 if it's actually not trying to replicate WW1, only use its guns? And it's not even like they're properly working guns either mind you, it's just reskinned models of modern rifles to make it look like you're using it. When people say they want a WW1 game they should mean that they want a game that even tries or at the very least gives a single shit about how the war actually worked instead of just a regular modern shooter with 1918 prototype gun models.
>>342084091
>how is adding complexity
IT IS BASICALLY NOW WW2
SEMIAUTOS & AUTOMATICS ALWAYS > BOLT-ACTIONS FOR GENERAL USE, THIS IS PRACTICAL REALITY AND NOT BALANCEABLE BY ANY AMOUNT OF DEVELOPER MEDDLING
ERGO BF1 PLAYS NOTHING LIKE WW1,
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>>342071830
The worst Battlefield after 3, stop shitposting.
>>342083680
Merde. Ils sont probablement la pire enterprise. C'est triste parce que j'aimé 1943.
>>342084458
Settle down okay
I wonder, is anyone actually buying the whole "we wanted a WW1 game but at first the big studio bosses didn't so we had to convince them" bullshit?
Its pretty god damn obvious Dice got told "you have until 2018 to make a WW1 game, we gotta cash in on its remembrance"
>"hurr i want to run and gun in ww1 setting, why do you hate fun"
Leave.
BF1942 had a fucking jetpack and once again only one class that uses bolt actions
>>342084848
True, though semi guns weren't as experimental and rare then as they were in WW1.
>>342067914
If I wanted to be surrounded by niggers with full auto weapons, I'd go to Detroit.
WW1 was fucking NOTHING compared to WW2 I have no clue why they're going back in time
>>342084848
Dat sweet sweet clang of a garand.
That Helmet is real. I believe it's Hungarian.
>>342085017
>>342073679
Looks like a megaman boss. >>342073702
>>342063648
That is an East African Soldier from the British Empire friendo.
Now your real issue should be that he's kitted out with African gear and fights on the Western Front.
>>342084430
>everyone has an smg and runs around with no clear front
They hired celebrities and CoD Youtubers to play the game. They most likely had no idea what the fuck they were doing.
>supertanks
A guy literally ran up to a tank, threw grenades at it, and instantly destroyed it.
That isn't fucking super at all
>Why try to market a game as WW1 if it's actually not trying to replicate WW1, only use its guns?
Because the technology, weapons, and scenario all lead to interesting gameplay and bring up challenges that doesn't happen in modern war?
The game doesn't have to be an autism simulator for the most boring, shitty part of war. It can branch off to different what-if scenarios and use the unusual weapons of WW1
>it's just reskinned models of modern rifles to make it look like you're using it
The SMG was confirmed to have shit stats. Not even CLOSE to a modern rifle.
>When people say they want a WW1 game they should mean that they want a game that even tries or at the very least gives a single shit about how the war actually worked
We're you even here during the BF1 prediction threads?
NOBODY wanted fucking trench warfare.
They wanted dogfighting, experimental guns, melee combat, ect.
>>342084787
No, I wanted to move into objectives with my team. I wanted to take on the short ranges with shotguns and SMGs, while my crew used bolt action guns for cover and giant anti-tank guns to pick of vehicles. I wanted objective play with BF1 technology and guns.
Just because I don't want to play Verdunn doesn't mean I want to RnG like a faggot
>>342084848
It was in an expansion full of all sorts of strange 1-off shit called Secret Weapons of WW2.
It was also set in WW2, where semi automatic and automatic weapons were much more common.
>>342084458
>SEMIAUTOS & AUTOMATICS ALWAYS > BOLT-ACTIONS FOR GENERAL USE
Holy shit you're dumb.
The SMGs are very close range, and if you know how to aim with bolt action you can easy pick off semi-auto gunners.
>>342085196
>NOBODY wanted fucking trench warfare.
Then why the fuck bother making a game about WW1, literally the only war in history synonymous with "Trench Warfare"
>>342085359
>literally the only war in history synonymous with "Trench Warfare"
Thats the case if you don't do research outside of the fucking US education system.
Again, trench warfare may have been the most common, but its certainly not as interesting as the open combat and guns you never hear about. A game doesn't have to be 100% historically accurate you autist
>>342084956
>>342085215
it's the difference between 99% and 90%
>>342085359
Eastern Front had a lot less of the trench warfare stalemate.
>>342085492
>a game about WW1 wouldn't be as interesting as another sad CoD knockoff
>>342065056
Dude from country A assassinated the leader of country B.
Country B declares war on Country A.
Country A's allies declare war on Country B.
Country B's allies declare war on Country A's Allies.
That's really the reason. Plus a bunch of weapons tech and invasion plans everyone was itching to try.
>>342081302
bolt is ohk to chest in recent battlefield games.
playing no-sight bolt actions is actually not as bad as it sounds if you can aim at all
>>342085196
I did.
>>342085492
You hear about open combat and guns in WW2 constantly. What's the point of downgrading?
>>342085586
Don't forget how Germany needed to KO france super fast, and Belgium fucked that up.
>a WWI game
fuck off, shill
