Blizzard purposely rigged matchmaking to keep everyone at 50% win/lose ratio.
The only way to get multiple wins is to lose all dignity and join a clan.
What's wrong with joining a clan?
What's wrong with everyone being at 50% win/lose ratio?
It's like that in every "competitive" game.
Welcome to esports, faggot.
>>342037673
How about you git gud.
>>342037673
>What's wrong with everyone being at 50% win/lose ratio?
welp that's it, the end of /v/
everyone go home. this place has been invaded to the extent that it is no longer for actual gamers
>>342037804
Prove it. You seem confident that's the case but have yet to show anything you say is true.
>>342037356
>Hey guys Blizzard is doing really stupid shit with Overwatch
More news at 11
>>342037673
I think I have found the biggest cuck in all of /v/ history.
>>342037356
They didn't "rig" anything. It's just that people play among their own skill level, which makes perfect sense. If you get better, you play with better players; if you get shittier, you play with shittier players.
>play better
>MMR gets higher
>get matched against people of similar skill levels
>win half the time, lose half the time
Fucking rigged bullshit. How dare they prevent me from stomping all over twelve year olds that just started playing.
>>342037673
You're a cuckold for big black dick
>>342037913
You still haven't said why you think it's wrong to have that around.
>>342037858
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>>342038103
So you have no rebuttal?
>>342038137
Explain why I just recently played a match with a total level difference of 77 to 325 between both teams?
>taking a multiplayer shooter clearly designed from the ground up as a casual, safe-space, console user first, friendly nice experience this seriously
Seek help.
If you don't want to be a part of that kind of game, don't play it.
>>342037673
Kill yourself casual. You can have a competitive game where everyone is on an equal playing field and say a %50 win/loss is okay
>>342038276
Doesn't need one, cuck. Just like we don't need proof that Hitler was a Nazi.
>>342037673
>>342037356
i play in a premade and still have a 50-60% win rate, every game is always a stomp or get stomped.
the mmr is super shitty.
>>342037913
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>>342037673
Isn't win/lose ratio just pointless in general? A bad player playing against bad players will keep a 50% win ratio as will a good player playing against good players.
It's not really a determination of skill, since a bad player could easily have a 60% winrate if he plays against bad players.
since op is retarded here is how mmr works
>high winrate
>mmr increases so you are matched with people more close to your skill level
>low winrate
>mmr decreases until you are matched with people who are closer to your skill level
>50-50 winrate
>you're probably where you should be. stop bitching and git gud.
>>342038293
Level difference. Some people might play 3000h and still be total shit in the game. Levels mean nothing.
>>342037576
if you cant see how pathetic it is to "organize your gaming session" then I dont know what to tell you.
>>342038218
This. OP is just a pub star that can't git gud
>>342037356
the fact that most people are around the 50% mark only shows that blizzard have a really good matchmaking algorithm.
are you so retarded that you would actually concede that blizzard are in such control over this game that they can even dictate match results before they ever get played? you give them way too much credit.
>>342038276
>actually defending a 50/50 win/lose ratio.
Everyone wins 50/50 in everything now.
You get 50% of your pay docked to go to everyone else.
All sport teams in all professional sports are always at 50% win/lose always.
You get 50% of anything you have ever worked for.
Why both ever put 100% into something when you are rigged to only get 50% out of it?
>>342038489
that's ideally how it should be but mmr changes too easily in this game.
>If you want to win you need to have an actual team that communicates and works together
My mind is broken
>>342037576
Its a literal fool's errand to try and play with a 6-man premade team every time you play a video game. That would require yourself and 5 other people with your skill level and who are willing to cooperate. Good luck ever pulling this off.
>>342038678
you aren't 100% of a team
>>342038276
Found the socialist uni student.
>>342038486
Yes, in any system that employs matchmaking there is little point to talking about win/loss ratio. If you are better than average you will have a little over 50% wins. If you are worse you will have a little under 50%. The only people with a significantly higher or lower winrate are those at the absolute top and bottom of skill. In a matchmaking system the only thing that reflects skill is your rating, which is currently invisible in Overwatch.
>>342037858
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>>342038406
Did you guys like how I pretended not to understand how MMR works and that it's the function of the MMR system to average out wins and losses to 50% once you've been placed in your skill bracket?
I sure do love to say "cuck", I'm so glad it's not on the wordfilter anymore.
>>342038576
How much of a friendless cuck do you have to be to play Overwatch solo queue
If you do nothing but solo play you have no right to bitch about a 50% winrate
>>342038806
>having friends is literally an impossible task
lmao /v/
>>342038678
You know we're talking video games, right? Stop being retarded, /v/
>>342037356
This happens in every team-based multiplayer game ever made. You are not special. You are not a target. Just fucking find people you like to play with, and fucking play. If you want to win all the time, git gud and find others who did the same and team up. Relying on fucking randos to carry your sorry ass is unbelievable.
>>342038293
>level difference
Levels don't mean much beside amount of time played. People that spend more time might be better, but that is not always the case. A pleb can have 1000 hours/levels and still be shit.
Is everyone just not caring that OP says not playing with a bunch of stupid randoms is losing your dignity?
>>342038678
if you're sitting at a 50% win rate, then you're, on average, against people who are just as skilled as you. Are you saying you only want to fight people worse than you?
>>342038412
>every game is always a stomp or get stomped
>>342038584
>really good matchmaking algorithm
I don't know what to believe as a nonplayer.
>>342037356
>50% win rate
>Guys the match making is putting me up against people of equal skill
Gonna have to try harder with the bait.
>>342038910
>having 5 friends who are all willing to cooperate and have the free time and schedule that you do to play while also being good at the game is difficult
FTFY faggot
>>342038908
>I'm a sad cuck that has to schedule my playtime
You couldnt be any more pathetic if I tried.
Its the reason why people quit MMO's. They want to play when THEY want, not when some GM fuckhead pulling a raid schedule out of his ass tells them to.
>>342037356
If everyone has around a 50% win rate wouldn't it mean that the matchmaking Is very well balanced?
Only thing I find fucked is the fact that you can get put into a game right as your team is losing. Just load into the match and "DEFEAT"
That shit shouldn't count towards your ratio.
This was a thing in dota2
>>342039206
Literally every modern game that situation doesn't count
>>342039040
I don't care much for anything OP has said
how else do you make shitters (the main playerbase) feel good about themselves
>>342039206
you don't get a loss when you join a game in progress
>>342038576
Then find people who have a loose schedule like you. You make it sound like you absolutely have to be with those clans that do sessions at a very specific time with no compromise.
>>342037356
>the game has matchmaking
You don't fucking say?
>>342037356
you guys are a bunch of morons, matchmaking is by definition suposed to try to give you an equal chance of winning and losing
>get put into losing game
>only in game for 5 seconds before team loses
>still counts as a loss
They need to change what counts as a loss because that shit is dumb.
>>342038910
Youre making it painfully obvious that you're still in high school because you have failed to realize that people over the age of 18 don't always have the exact same portions of free time from work and school responsibilities. Getting all your buddies online to play a game at the same time gets harder to do as you get older.
The problem with this game isn't 50% winrate, it's that blizz will put you into stomp games to keep the winrate 50%.
>>342039672
You're lying. It doesn't
>>342038683
git
gud
seriously, if you don't have a measurable effect on your own winrate then you're probably a shitter who only gets carried
and thing is, this isn't even saying you can't have games where your losses are entirely on your own teams fault. mmr isn't determined in a single game, it's an average of games. you have an effect on whether or not you win those games. if you don't have an effect then you deserve a lower mmr.
>>342037356
Is this your first competitive game or something?
>>342039543
You don't know what everyone here is talking about, don't ya little fella?
Just go sit in the corner and just watch. There isn't anything here for you to discuss.
>>342039676
It's summer here. Don't let it get to you.
>>342037356
not one single fucking person is going to go into your shitty little profile and say,"well jeeze, this guy has a 99% win rate. let me suck his dick" get over your fucking self faggot.
>>342039676
>not being NEET
>>342037673
I have no idea what's wrong with it either. Since when did competitive mean stomping noobs?
>>342038312
>console user first
I really hate when people bitch about games they've never played and spout outright lies. They clearly favor PC since there aren't even official forums for console and the game is lacking simple options like turning off aim-assist which 99% of of other console games have.
>>342039990
>go into your shitty little profile and say,"well jeeze, this guy has a 99% win rate. let me suck his dick"
Yes they will.
>>342037673
Fuck off you filthy commie
>we all are lvl 50 ish
>face lvl 100 to 250 lvl players
Mmr is fucked and Blizzard are dumb niggers.
>>342038276
watch out anon, youre triggering all the NEETs
>>342038489
What's wrong with that? The alternative is pubstomping and having to deal with clans with a shitty team.
nerds that don't know shit about statistics and math are never going to fucking stop being funny
this thread is one of the best examples I've seen of why the people who bitch about blizzard games should never ever be listened to
>>342037673
>me and my friend are both pretty good at the game, not mlg esports 420 shit but pretty decent
>every time we play together we lose the first 5 games hard, complete stomp
>we had a game where we played 4 prestige players against us (we're both 50 and our team was in the 30s) and got shit on
>the next few games are piss easy,, a reverse of what just happened to us
>when he goes to sleep I play by myself and get fairly consistent wins, and the losses are never hard, well fought
Whatever matchmaking they're using, it doesn't work well at all with a small 2-3 man party. I feel like you have to either play by yourself or with a group of 6 to get the best experience.
>>342040131
>being a literal manbabby parasite
>>342037673
If your win rate is always 50%, you may as well not play the game. The way matchmaking works is, if you win too many games, you'll get put into a game where your team is nothing but retards, or the enemy team are godlike. There's no close games, its a stomp either way.
I don't see a problem, this is not ranked mode.
>>342038276
If I'm bad, I should have a 40% win rate. If I'm good, I should have a 60% win rate.
Fuck you.
TFW when you have enough friends to always play as 6 and stomp
>>342040876
>If I'm good
I guarantee you are not nearly as good as you think you are
>>342040876
You do realise top solo q players have 60% winrate, right?
Just git gud enough to carry games
>>342040950
When is high school back in session?
>>342040449
>level = skill
Dota 2 has been doing this since the very start, yet /v/ LOVES dota 2 and valve and never bitches about dota 2's forced 50%
little too late faggots?
>>342040876
>If I'm bad, I should have a 40% win rate. If I'm good, I should have a 60% win rate.
No you shouldn't you autist, there will always be thousands of people who are on the same skill level as you are, so you will end up playing against them and averaging out 50%.
The only way you could feasibly have a 60% on a truly balanced system is if you were a literal god who is pretty much unmatched.
I doubt you are that good.
>>342039725
i play with my friends so fuck off.
>>342040886
Jokes on you, I am not owning overhype.
>>342041007
>he thinks I'm referring to my literal self
>implying I play this trash and instead prefer to argue pointless arguments on a chinese cartoons board
>>342041097
>everyone who has friends is underage!!
t. butthurt wagecuck whose life ended after HS
Anime lied to you, you know, there is no such thing as an unbreakable bond, you have to preserve them.
>>342041393
wow you're so deep anon, i wish everyone was like you.
>>342037673
Nothing /v/ is just filled with idiots
>Game matches you with people of equal skill
>This means everyone wins half there games
> begin to win more than half because your skill Improves
>Matched with more skilled players
Don't worry, soon there will be competitive mode so you can wag your epeen over that.
I still can't believe that people just leave games halfway through if it looks like a loss to maintain their precious winrate.
>>342037673
kill your are self, faggot
>>342037356
>Blizzard purposely rigged matchmaking to keep everyone at 50% win/lose ratio.
Then why do I have a solo winrate of 63% after 350 total games and a 71% winrate with Lucio after 249 games? .
>>342041393
>calling him wagecuck
>literally confirming what he says in the process
>>342041657
>he fell for the """"""fair matchmaking"""""" meme
>supposedly everyone has a 50% win/lose ratio
>I'm close to 20/80 win/lose at this point
It's my first fps, I guess I'm just shit
>>342041750
Because blizz catered to the sjw trend and rewards players for picking marginalised heroes like the brown sliding musician of healing
>solo queue
>go up against a 6 man group
>impossible to win
>there is no indication of people being in a group together
yeah thanks blizzard
>>342041992
Cringed so hard over this, kill yourself please
>>342042043
You know they're in a group when they all make fun of you
>>342037356
I remember when dota came out of beta and the "50% MATCH" Meme first started. Watching memes grow up makes me feel old.
>>342042043
>>there is no indication of people being in a group together
What changes in your mind when you know the other team is grouped? Weren't you trying your hardest before hand?
>>342042319
Forced 50% has been a thing for as long as TrueSkill and MMR systems have existed in videogames in modern times, it did not begin with DOTA 2.
>>342037356
Who the fuck cares, I don't play for the team. I play for me to get those delicious Play of the Games to rub it in all their faces.
I just can't grasp that they couldn't put some sort of Ranked Mode in at launch.
Like it's not their first game, let alone their first with ranks.
They just want people to buy the game and loot boxes. Then once they've squeezed every penny and players are bored add ranked mode to bring players back for something to do.
They could have just put a # ranking system in. Invisible MMR and 50:50 is fucking garbage. But modern devs need to keep players around/invested to buy more DLCs and skins.
>>342038103
But he's not Anthony Burch.
>>342042740
Ranked is coming at the end of this month with visible MMR via a 1-100 visible indicator. Team average will be how your score is adjusted on win/loss.
Seriously do you faggots even spend 5 minutes checking your information before whining about it? Obviously Ranked should have been in on launch, but it's not some scam conspiracy to steal your money before they added it.
>win a few games
>get put into game with less than 10 seconds left before loss
>dropped from game to find "more balanced game"
>everyone is playing fucking offense characters on defense and gets steamrolled
thanks blizzard
>>342037673
Forced 50% exists to keep the broadest base of players continuing to play the game.
Clanstacks can still have their stormps and rise above the 50%, and some shitters will feel the burn and go under the 50% but ultimately most players will hover around the middle mark and buy their hats/coins/merchandise and feed the cycle until the next assfaggots styled knock-off.
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>>342041731
Tell me, do you CONSTANTLY get 2 or more gold medals per match? Because if you don't that means you are not really as good as you think you are, you are not being dragged down by shitters, the team you are playing with is on the same skill level as you, therefore you are exactly where you should be.
Unless you get 2+ gold medals often then there is nothing to whine about.
>>342039205
>schedule playtime
Oh god, you've never had friends before, have you?
>go into skype/mumble/whatever chat
>"hey guys any of you wanna play some overwatch"
>queue up and wreck shitters
>>342042449
You have the right mindset. As long as 50% matchmaking exists, it's best to just have fun with offense characters.
Explain to me how you would create matchmaking that:
>Matches you with people of the SAME skill as you
>Doesn't end in 50% win/lose after all the games in which your ability is measured are played
The only outlier would be the absolute low rank shitters who have nobody as bad as them, and the highest top tier players who have nobody as good as them
"i don't want to play good matches I just want to win!"
>>342037356
>Blizzard purposely rigged matchmaking to keep everyone at 50% win/lose ratio.
>Blizzard purposely rigged matchmaking to keep the game balanced?
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you mad that the second you start shitting on noobs, blizzard tells you to git gud and starts matching you with harder people? Are you drunk? Are you stupid?
>that guy that instalocks hanzo and never hits an arrow
FUCK YOU
>>342043168
Gold medals are for the highest stat on your own team. Getting 2+ golds on a team of retards just makes you king of the retards.
You cant deny that in games where your team stomps you get few medals, whereas in games when you lose but still gain medals is evidence of forced 50%.
Go kill yourself.
I can't tell if this is a joke or you're actually this fucking stupid. Like do you actually think the win rate of average players would be anything besides 50%? There are 2 teams and only 1 can win. 1/2 = 50%. Fucking magnets.
I always pick Genji no matter what. It just feels right to play as a badass cyborg ninja.
>>342044693
the thing is nerds think they are smart people but really they are just about as dumb as they fucking come
>>342044693
>AVERAGE players
Yes. Average players would have an average win rate... of 50%.
Bad players should have a lower win rate. Good players should have a higher win rate.
Pretty simple stuff you idiotic mouthbreathing scotum-sucking twatcunt.
>>342037804
Except it's literally not in any competitive game. In a true competitive game you get placed with people at your skill level. So you could theoretically have a 100% win rate if you were good enough. Its impossible in this because it will literally put babies on your team and gregors on the other team.
everyone should have as close to a 50% win rate as possible or the match making algorithm is failing to match people of equivalent skill against each other
>>342045273
I just want to pubstomp and feel powerful, is that so much to ask?
>forced 50%
Did I accidentally open a Dota thread?
>>342037356
It's just a casual game, it's made for casuals and that's alright.
>>342045273
Except that's not it at all. You get put with literal retards on your team that are either brand spanking new or horrible and get put up against people with over 30x as many hours or more. It might work if you have a pre-made of 6. But solo or even with 2 or 3 other people it's rigged in a really shitty way.
>>342037673
Excellent job Anon. You triggered the shit out of the objectivists and tryhards.
>>342037804
This. Matchmaking in every fighting game is like this.
>>342037356
Isn't that how SC2 has been working since the beginning?
I don't understand what's wrong with this, do they force the 50% winratio by some shady thing instead of pairing you against better players or something?
>>342040876
It's a team game you fucking idiot.
>ITT: people playing their first competitive game and discovering they're shit
>>342045058
>Being this dumb
See
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