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>edgy, overpriced TF2 clone with no content, shitty match settings and made for 12-year-olds

Why are we excited about this game again?
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>>341992223
People are playing it, but on the other hand people were playing FO4 too, saying it was good even. I haven't gotten around to touch OW but from what I've seen it looks dumbed down and plain, like I'd rather play some other shooter if I was up for FPS. Also things like the abysmal FOV seem jarring.
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reaper is the only edgy character

also because its fun, go to a friends house and try it out
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>>341992570
>Friend
Anon, I think we both know why OP can't do that
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>>341992570
But seriously can it be better than good ol' TF2 or quake? It looks visually cluttered and overall chaotic.
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Why TF2 felt fun and comical when Overwatch seems really childish? They're both pretty same in terms of design and art style
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>>341992223
>I don't like popular thing!
>Why do people like things I don't like!

Grade A autism right here folks!
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>>341992742
No, it felt sluggish and slow as fuck. Also it doesn't have different weapons or abilities, just the handful you get to know and get bored of in a day
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>>341992745
Uh no, totally different styles. TF2 also is self-aware unlike OW
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>>341992825
Your first day on /v/?
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>>341992852
Yeah that's what I've been thinking from what I've seen. I'm kind of just bummed how popular it got here since it doesn't look like it's anything special or new in the FPS genre, like I have better choices available
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>>341992742
It's better than what TF2 has become, I suppose. And the only super edgy character is made fun of by the characters in game for being super edgy.

I dig it. I'm more a single-player dude, though.
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>>341992980
It's babby's first fps game, perfect for casuals. They don't know any better so they love it. Also Blizzard is good at making addictive games + all the marketing and hype = everyone plays and likes it except some people on here
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>>341993040
Jesus christ
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>>341992223
>edgy

Reaper is a parody of tween fanfiction edgelord characters, it's fucking hilarious

>overpriced

Seems comparable to other titles in the same quality bracket

>TF2 clone

I don't really like TF2 at all, but I've been playing this game for days now and still having a lot of fun. Sure there are similarities, but this game is just so much better.

>no content

There are a lot of characters with interesting designs that all play differently, the maps are solid and it's fun

>shitty match settings

What do you mean?

>made for 12-year-olds

I love this game and I'm 27. Sure there are 12-year-olds playing but there's nothing stopping you from playing with friends if that bothers you
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>>341992980
>I'm bummed something became popular in my super special image board :(

Grow up
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>>341992223
we're not
most of /v/ agrees that it's dogshit
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>>341992570
>what is Widowmaker
>what is Reinhardt
>what is Roadhog
>waht is McCree
There are tons of edgy characters in this game. And even if there weren't the game still tries to take itself way too seriously.
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>>341992223
Me and all my friends stopped playing it after a week.

We all fell for the meme.
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>>341993457
>most of /v/
>millions of threads daily
>I don't like it so that means nobody does

Summer /v/ ladies and gents.
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>>341993459
>Reinhardt
>Edgy
What?
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>>341993459

Lmao, how is Reinhardt edgy? Amongst others you've mislabeled.
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>>341993658
stop shitposting
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>>341993240
>Reaper is a parody
S-sure he is
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>>341993459
>girl who whispers
>guy who shouts and makes jokes
>guy who makes pig noises
>cowboy with BAMF on his belt
>edgy
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>edgy
i don't think you know what that word means.
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>No content
>21 heroes and twelve maps

How many classes and maps did TF2 launch with? 9 and 6? Thought so.
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>>341992223

Legend of Titan is better
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>>341993040
>Jizzdragon
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>>341993240
>Reaper is a parody
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>>341992223
>1 character ironically designed
>LOL EDGY GAEM
>Twice as many maps as TF2 at launch
>LOL NO CONTENT
Fuck off faggot
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>>341993973
>>341993814

Fun fact. The reapers voice actor name is Ferguson.
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>>341993240
>Sure there are 12-year-olds playing
For some reason I get random friend invites
And it's always a fucking 12 year old
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>>341993475
I don't believe you stopped.
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>>341992223
because /v/ is absolutely filled with shithead little kids since about 2011
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It's weaker than TF2 was in 2007.

But what else is there to play if you want a team based online game with classes? Fucking Battleborn?
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>>341992223
>I hate popular games because memes

You're worst than the cod haters on this board
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>>341994115
sadly, /v/ has been the worst board on 4chan and the laughing stock of everyone else for a long time now
it replaced /b/ as the gateway board and has been shit ever since, I blame fappening and gamergate
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>>341993240
>Reaper is a parody
No, he's edgy and the game takes him seriously.

>Seems comparable to other titles in the same quality bracket
It lacks content and there have been other similar games that have been the same quality.

>There are a lot of characters with interesting designs that all play differently, the maps are solid and it's fun
21 heros, 4 abilities. That's 84 different abilities. 12 maps. You play through those in a day or two. You can't change the guns or abilities or even alter the playmodes that much. That's way too little content

>What do you mean?
Can't leave matches without being punished, only 6v6, no custom server browser and so on.

>I love this game and I'm 27.
Everyone has their taste but that's what ruins it for me. The game takes itself seriously + made for 12 year olds = no gore or adult themes. Also it allows bunch of kids to play with you at the same time. It's not like they didn't play Quake or CS back then but at least it felt you played an adult game made for adults
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>>341992742
of course its not as fast as quake however it becomes very easy to understand visially after as little as a few matches

its hard to describe, it feels casual but still very good to play, largely because of the fantastic animations and effects that give almost constant player feedback. say what you want about the balancing, network and things of the like, but the way the game physically feels is phenominal. probably the best an fps can feel without insane mobility or deadzone aiming, and the style of this game doesnt really call for either of those

if youre on the fence because of how casual it appearsx, wait till competitive mode comes out in a week or so
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>>341993040

>cummies

what the fuck
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>>341992223
I'm tired old man and enjoy stomping pubs.
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>>341994269
>I love popular games because memes

Who's the worst one here?
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>>341994353

>Complaining about being punished for repeated leaving

Lmao, stop posting. You're an embarrassment.
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>>341992853
how is tf2 self aware?
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>>341992223
>TF2 clone with no content
It's like you never played TF2 at launch
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>>341992223
>doesn't reload
>has bullets on body
i don't get it
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>>341994353
>84 abilities
>12 maps
>Not enough content for more than 2 days

People on this board don't even play video games anymore, do they?
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>>341994468
>every other game ever
>you can join and leave the match anytime you want
>no problems

Why did Blizzard think it's a good idea to force it now in OW?
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>>341994353
Now the real deal... you need mature game for mature gamer as yourself... kill yourself and make the world a better place
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>>341994353

>WHY IS THIS CHARACTER EDGY!
>BUT ALSO WHY IS THE GAME NOT EDGY! WHERE'S THE GORE?!

Retard.
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>>341992223
>TF2 clone
>clone

It's pretty much based on it and similiar but not a clone.
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>>341994497
It knows is a comedy game. It has tons of fun weapons and characters who never go "Come play with us and save the world!"
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>>341994564
best part is that they conveniently forget tf2 ACTUALLY had less content on launch
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>>341994565

Dota, League, Street Fighter and CS aren't part of every other game ever?
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>>341994565

MOBA emulation. Same with MMR based matchmaking instead of dedicated servers.

>>341994703

TF2 was a far better constructed game though. It was also a lot fucking cheaper since it came in the Orange Box.
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>>341994703
because tf2 cost 40/60 dollars right?
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>>341994615
blood in a game =/= edgy
A person wearing only black and literally having a skull-shaped mask who yells "DIE DIE DIE" = edgy

The problem isn't if OW is edgy or not. It's how it takes itself seriously while having these edgy characters. TF2 had gore and blood everywhere but it wasn't a serious game so no one calls it edgy
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>>341994697
comedy does not equal self aware

you just confuse the two because its dark comedy and somewhat cynical

if anything you could argue overwatch is more self aware by having all of these rediculous character archtypes fighting for no story related reason.
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>>341993973
Just an excuse from Blizzdrones.
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>>341994810

Hence why it had even less content, kek.
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>>341993459
Rein is goofy and campy as fuck.

McCree is literally just a cowboy. Roadhog is a parody of Mad Max along with Junkrat.
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>>341994353
Kinda sad how you wasted so much time posting such a shit opinion
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>>341994765
>TF2 was a far better constructed game though

lol

>It was also a lot fucking cheaper since it came in the Orange Box.

Tossing shit games in with a game purchase doesn't make the purchase cheaper.
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>>341994703
1. TF2 cost less
2. People complained about it back then too
3. Most of the gamers just had fun and the community was great, now it's just bitching /v/irgins or casuals and women
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>>341994810
way less content for about 20 dollars cheaper than overwatch
>>341994661
how is tf2 better constructed?
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>>341994910
TF2 has a bunch of lunatic mercs fighting over gravel. Doesn't get more self-aware than that.
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>>341992948
I don't think you have to be new to expect better of the board. Quite the opposite, actually.

This is a shitposting thread, plain and simple. It adds nothing to the board except to rile a few people up, it prompts no real discussion, and it should not have been made.

"/v/ hates video games" use to be kind of an in-joke until newfags started taking it seriously and trying too hard to fit in. We really don't need 24/7 console war threads, nor do we need threads like this one that are just pointless, poorly-supported bashing of [Popular Game].

If you've got any real criticisms to make, go for it - I'm not saying you're not allowed to complain. But buzzword-riddled bullshit like this accomplishes nothing. People who already agreed with you are going to say "YEAH, 12-YEAR-OLDS, UGH" and people who didn't are going to either ignore you or call you a fuckup. So what's the point?
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>>341994810
It cost $50. You were forced to buy 2 other games with it.
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>>341993459
wait a second, i just realized

why is something being edgy a bad thing in a videogame? does every character have to be happy?
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>>341994703
>>341994528
>le launch xDDD
I wish kids stopped bringing this irrelevant point up. 2016 is now. TF2 has content now, Overwatch doesn't.
The game OW is competing with is current TF2.
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>>341994703
It was also not advertised to death by Valve as the next coming of FPS jesus, like Blizzard is doing with OW.
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>>341995107
no, there was a standalone for 20$
try again, child
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>>341995186
I think it's more about the game design. Before characters were badass and the games were made for fun. Nowadays the big devs try to shove serious games down our throats
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>>341995232

Current TF2 is a fucking joke. It's a huge piece of shit and even people who love what TF2 was hate it.

It's laughable that you think modern TF2 wins a comparison with Overwatch.
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>>341995319
Not until later.
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>there are people on /v/ who believe overwatch to be a better game than team fortress 2

this in particular really puts things in perspective for me
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>>341995232
>"stop bringing up launch"
>proceeds to compare a freshly launched game with promised content to a game thats bern out for years with hundreds of content updates

are you retarded?
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So in summary OP is probably a dirty foreigner who cant afford the goty of 2016 and has no friends. Also probably mad tf2 is a dead game so his hats lost value.
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>>341995429

That's....unusual.

>>341995495

As it is now, Overwatch is better. But it's a weaker, shittier game than what TF2 was in 2007. If it was 2010 TF2 there's be zero contest.
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>>341995495
>everytime someone makes a WoW thread people rightfully bash Blizzard
>everytime someone makes an Overwatch thread people praise Blizzard

what happened?
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>>341995239
>succesful company with lots of money decides to advertise their game

more at 11
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>>341995352
>no swearing until the 05's
I've seen this in other media too. I really like books and movies and games that are serious without yelling "FUCK" and "SHIT" and "PISS" every time someone edgy character talks. Think about it, what if Saruman had sworn all the time, LotR-books had been terrible
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>>341995232

Is not a competition. Overwatch already has 10 million players in less than a month. It took years for TF2 to reach that number. Game is so big its killing League of Legends in Korea. Overwatch already won. It stomped everyone as expected from based gods Blizzard.
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>>341995232
That's not how it works. Please just leave the discussion if this is the best that you can do to support your argument.
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Reaper is most certainty a parody of edgy and the fact he takes himself seriously is the cherry on top of the whole thing.
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>>341995352
i could understand the argument in regards to overwatch if EVERY character was like reaper but thats far from the case
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>>341995536
>dont_just_stand_there_and_throw_me_a_spear.webm
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>>341995429
I noticed this too with hanzo
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>>341994353
>No, he's edgy and the game takes him seriously.

Characters literally mock him with "Death comes!" and "I don't even think children are afraid of you."

He will say "You've got to be kidding me" when Mercy revives all those mooks he had an aid in putting down.

Game doesn't take itself super seriously. At least not yet. I approve until that point.
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>>341995601
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>>341995640
>a title that wasn't meant to be a super big hit and was even bundled with other two successful games to make people buy it had less content than a title that was advertised to death by Blizzard as their next coming of Jesus
Gee that's surprising
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>>341995186
it's a meme that people have been brainwashed into thinking is bad
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>>341992432

Didn't know 100+ FOV is jarring.
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>>341994564
he only likes those movie-like games anon
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I still don't understand why the heroes of Overwatch are fighting each other. In TF2, the reason why everybody was "fighting" was because they were generic soldier classifications in the Red and Blue faction. Why exactly is my Roadhog fighting the opponent's Junkrat? Why is my Mercy fighting an opposing Reinhardt? Why is my Widowmaker sniping their Reaper?
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>>341995601
Except the huntsman is a joke weapon that nobody actually uses.
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>>341995703
>Is not a competition. Overwatch already has 10 million players in less than a month.
yeah just like titanfall
or evolve
or battlefront
or division

get real, bub
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>>341995836

I-it's okay when TF2 does it!
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>>341996048
TF2 is objectively older and the hitboxes are fucking terrible, OW has no excuse imo
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>>341996024

You mean like how Mei is the least used character in comp? Bordering on never being used at all?
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>>341993040
>Cummies
>Dickeater
>Jizzeater
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>>341993040
>SUCCGOD
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>>341995708
That's exactly how it works. Please just leave the discussion if a "but that's wrong" is all you can come up with to support your non-existent argument.
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>>341992742
better than vanilla tf2? no
better than what current tf2 is? yes, by a shit load

it reminds me of playing vanilla tf2 and my friends i played vanilla tf2 with are enjoying it a ton
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>>341996124
>>341995836
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>>341996028

None of those games reached those numbers in less than a month. Are you retarded?
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>>341996118

Did you ever consider that both games do it for balance purposes?

You're the kind of retard that complains about hitboxes and hurtboxes in fighting games not being accurate to the model.
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>>341995601
There are two weapons (three if you count the flames of the flamethrower being one) with noticeable hitbox problems in TF2. In OW nearly every single weapon has fucked hitboxes.
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>>341996184

Oh yeah, that mercy pistol that people almost never use and nobody has ever even thought to complain about, nice.
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>>341996124
more than half the weapons in OW are projectiles and even the hitscan ones have ginormous hitboxes
don't try defending it
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>>341992570
Reaper is the funny kind of edgy.
Widowmaker is the one I can't take seriously.
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>>341996219
lmao you can't make this shit up
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>>341996219
only blizzard already talks about competative tournaments of Overwartch when the game is fucking aims for you so you could feel like a pro geymer.
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>>341996118

Easy

TF2 - Incompetence from Valve
OW - Design choice.

It is better in Overwatch because its an actual feature.
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>>341996219
Why in gods name would someone make botched hitboxes on purpose?
For whatever reason you feel having a head hitbox the the size of 8 heads = balance, you know what's an easier fix to this issue, aim
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>>341995603
TF2 has only gotten better with time, but remained the same game it has always been. Name one bad thing that changed the gameplay.

>normal mode: no "HATS" or "FURRIES"
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>>341996462
haahahahahahaha
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>>341993459
>Reinhardt
>McCree
>edgy
What
Reinhardt seems like a cool guy. I'd like to have a few beers and exchange bants with him and Torbjorn.
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>>341996462
> its an actual feature.
do they say it on a cover or in the description about it?
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>>341996462
problem is the hitboxes are fucked

>TF2 = to incompetent to fix it
>OW = we did it on purpose

You tell me which one sounds worse
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>>341996462
...so you're saying they purposely made their game as bad as the one they're copying?
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>>341996152
Alright, since you're apparently not seeing where you went wrong, let me help you:

You don't get to make arbitrary "Rules" about what people are allowed to bring up just to blatantly favor your side of the argument. You are criticizing Overwatch in its launch state, so it makes perfect logical sense to compare it to Team Fortress 2 in that game's own launch state.

What you're attempting to do by insisting on comparing Overwatch to current-day TF2 is like comparing a freshly-planted acorn to a 100-year-old oak tree and saying "SEE? MY PLANT IS BIGGER!" Right now, that might be true, but my plant is going to grow too and yours was an acorn once.

The comparison is also stupid because of the present-day state of TF2 not living up to the game's legacy at all, but that's another issue entirely.
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>>341996562
The flooding of weapons and trading in general.

I'd imagine Overwatch will start weapon flooding as well if it's around for long enough.
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>>341995536
maybe its just a smart gun? Helping you out. Have you thought about it? Its the future afterall
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>That one idiot saying the game takes itself too seriouly
>Widow and Reaper working with Winston and Tracer
>Being able to choose 6 of the very same character
>PotG where torbjorn dies
>Those hilarious ragdolls

The fuck are you even talking about?
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>>341992223
Well, it's a shooter with fanfic characters and that don't try the moronic and nonsensical "muh gritty realism" that other shooters try to, but fail.
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>>341996192
Division sold 5.5m units the first week of release and had 1.2m concurrent players retard. Now it's sitting on 10k as the shit game it is.
Meanwhile OW is probably sitting on 50k players while Blizzard employees shovel ambivalent shit like "10 MILLION PLAYERS" into the shareholders mouths to please them.

Just how old are you?
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>>341992570
It doesn't have split screen, it's not made for playing in the same room as people. Fuck modern fps design philosophy, I miss games from 10 years ago where only one person had to actually buy the game
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>>341992570
Reapers just chuunibyou
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>>341996791
>the flooding of weapons
The fucking what? More options for gameplay is bad now?
>trading in general
you didn't even pass normal mode, lmao
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>>341996978

5 million is not 10 million retard. And Division is mainly a PVE game with no content. Overwatch is competitive only with a high kill ceiling that people will play for years. Dumb fuck.
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>>341996791

They have already stated trading won't happen because then you get a dumb community giving prices to items while greedy idiots try to steal accounts.

Also, gold weapons got confirmed a few days ago.
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>>341996753
Your comparison is stupid and makes no sense. Would you rather sit under an oak on a hot day or a little sapling? An oak is most likely not going to get any bigger either, so the sapling would eventually catch up to it. TF2 is always going to keep growing and in 9 years when OW catches up to current TF2 TF2 will already be 9 years of content ahead. Sorry, but you're retarded.
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You can get gold weapons if you perform well on the competitive ladder.
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>>341992745


I feel like people saying TF2 is cartoon and comical is an overstatement, at lest for when it first came out.

Vanilla TF2 was more like something of a comic book. It has style, it had jokes but at it's core it was still serious game.

You didn't have pies being thrown at your face with characters spouting memes in horrible accents while wearing over the top costumes.

TF2 is clean and very much a game first that lets the jokes come naturally and more so unitentionaly. OW you can clearly tell that they had a team of writers trying to come up with funny jokes and lines.
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>>341997324

TF2 hasnt been updated in a year. Game is already dead.
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>>341992223
Play ET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBKJXnd84E&pxtry=1
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>>341992223
cause it's fun
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>>341996673
both is shit and so none is worse
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>>341997449
>You didn't have pies being thrown at your face with characters spouting memes in horrible accents while wearing over the top costumes

Yeah lets ignore the Meet The Pyro video that even had MLP references and memes in it. How convenient.
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>>341997179
>Overwatch is competitive only with a high kill ceiling
pressing Q to make cool stuff happen is so skillful kek
try this argument again when rocket jumping is 10+ inputs like in TF2 and not one button
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>>341997093
>More options for gameplay is bad now?
When it's poorly thought out, yeah. I think you might be trying to bait me with the 'lmao', though. I don't think you could be that booty blasted from that post alone.

>>341997180
I knew they said no to trading. That's why I didn't include that bit.

This gold weapons thing is concerning. I'm cool if it's just stupid skins, but if there is any stat difference...
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>>341995072
Fucking this. Make shitposting "great" again
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>>341997449
Tf2 art design is complete trash. This is coming from somebody who played tf so its unbiased
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>>341997180
The reason it won't happen is it would devalue boxes and make Blizzard less money.
They want you to buy 50 boxes and get jackshit, not spend 5 cents getting the skin you want.
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>>341997468
>tfw we will never get an enemy territory remaster
fuck you for making me think about it
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>>341996562

For every fucking update, they"fix" something while fucking up some other shit.

Even today the fucking quick fix doesn't block air blasts.

The engie got shat to oblivion while also getting no new weapons at all.

The demo nerf was perfect but they listened to shitters instead.

Killing community servers because quickplay now directs all players to valve servers.

There was a mod that acted like a hack and VAC is not able to detect it, so they just sv_pure'd they servers.

Now before you go full retard with

>caring about mods

I am talking about the ones that help fix the game's problems.
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>>341993040
This is one of the most beatifull things ever.
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>>341997625
>VANILLA TF2
vanilla tf2
>VANILLA TF2
vanilla tf2
>READING COMPREHENSION
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>>341997625
Yeah let's also ignore how Meet The Pyro had the most gruesome scenes seen in TF2 to date
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>>341997587
TF2 is around 9 years old and if given the power to avoid these issues I am sure Valve would've resolved them, but Blizzard literally fucked there hitboxes up on purpose.

You can clip and glitch through things in watch_dogs but that's okay because you do shit like that in the LoZ OT and everbody loved that game!
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>>341997449
>characters spouting memes in horrible accents

I feel like you are baiting with this. The sniper video starts off with the "Boom headshot" meme in his australian accent.
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>>341997817
But atleast there are still full servers
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>>341997682

Already confirmed as well. Gold weps are purely cosmetic.
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>>341997453
You mean 6 months without content. Bugfixes and small changes have been happening many times.
Anyhow, the biggest update ever is coming in less than a month, competitive mode included. It's also 3rd most played game on steam so nowhere near "dead".
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>>341995232
>2016 is now
t. trudeau
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It's a solid game. Nothing more, nothing less. It's getting a lot of hype because the last AAA game that came out similar Overwatch was TF2 and that was nearly 10 years ago, so there's a whole new generation experiencing this game that never even played TF2 or if they did, it was already a hat collecting simulator by then.
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>>341997179
Please don't delude yourself into thinking overwatch is a high skilled video game. the engine & server settings don't allow for such a thing. no advanced mouse settings, horrible input lag unless you're running completely bullshit system specs which makes no fucking sense at all.
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>>341998062
>3rd most played game on steam so nowhere near "dead".

Idling for hats to sell is not really playing the game.

>Competitive

Took them years and years to add this but Overwatch is shit despite adding the mode in the first month.
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>>341997817
ET:legacy is kind of a remaster
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>>341998229

>horrible input lag

Is this a new meme?

I am on a 650m and the game runs flawlessly.
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Is it literally impossible for you babies to just play the games you like and ignore the games you hate instead of making a thousand threads a day whining about how games you hate exist?
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>call a probably the most politically correct game available on market an edgy game

nice try fag
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>>341998229
The game doesn't even have raw mouse input. It's ridiculous.
This shit is also laughable >>341995429 If they try to make it into an e-sport it's going to be on the same level as Hearthstone, a joke
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>>341998417

They are pissed they can't play the game so they try to convince others it sucks so they won't be left behind.

Just start a denuvo thread and see how denialfags will tell you every denuvo game is shit.
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>>341998417

Arguing is half the fun.
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>>341995352
>Spec ops the line
> not "The truth, Walker, is that you're here because you wanted to feel like something you're not, a hero."
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>>341992980
Try Battleborn. LOL :DDDD
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What's the point of this shitty thread?
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>>341992745
TF2 is better grounded, as crazy as that sounds in spite of the animations OW has released.

Take Widow, for example. Kind of a no-nonsense character, right? Except she's 100% nonsense. Her skin is purple because she doesn't pump blood or whatever. Her sniper rifle transforms into a full automatic weapon. Her butt looks like it has implants in it or something. She's wearing an open-chested latex suit.

How can you do that? Say, "No, I never smile", and then give the character that many hilarious, stupid, jokey designs.

Meanwhile, you've got the scout. Arguably the dumbest and most comical character in TF2. He's got an obvious accent, but he's not running around with a Boston team on his hat or anything. His design sticks to the character, blends in with everybody else, and his quips are fast, scrappy, and reflective of his play style.

Even when TF2 does funny, they do it with a sense of internal consistency. Overwatch is sort of doing any fucking thing. Tracer is nothing but a mobile catch-phrase distributor, and try as they might to make her cute, it's really hard to imagine anyone actually BEING like that. She'd be so annoying, so many people would be telling her to shut up. Tracer would have zero friends, yet everyone in OW acts like Tracer is this lovable scamp and not one of the dumbest people on the team.
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>>341998406
fuck anon i had no idea about this.
does it support 1080p because this is my biggest problem with et.
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>>341997982
Good. Good. Was scared there for a minute.
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>>341997449
>>341998682
>TF2 is clean and very much a game first that lets the jokes come naturally and more so unitentionaly. OW you can clearly tell that they had a team of writers trying to come up with funny jokes and lines.
>Even when TF2 does funny, they do it with a sense of internal consistency. Overwatch is sort of doing any fucking thing.
These. TF2 had good and well written characters and jokes, OW just tries to be funny even if it doesn't make sense
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>>341998682
Gotta love how so many /v/irgins think that the entire world is like them when it comes to hating someone. Then they act like they're all alone in a mean cruel world when talking about something they like.

Also,

>waaaaaah why isn't this video game grounded in reality?! I can't enjoy a game unless it's as realistic as possible!
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>>341997324
I don't think cuckwatch can ever catch up to tf2 since blizzard has the game on lockdown. No community mods or servers.
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>>341998761
Yes, they fully fixed some engine issues and legacy supports every resolution (even 2560x1600)
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>>341998414
how is this a meme, the game suffers from massive input lag, normal fps games have around 0-5ms ow has 5-20 average, just look at the in game netgraph. its something to with the engine itself, which can hopefully be fixed.

If you played fps games you would feel it instantly.
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>>341998971
>This nigga spent $40 on a TF2 clone and now feels like he has to defend it from the meanies at /v/

Why don't you go buy more day 1 loot boxes anon?
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>>341998971
To be honest, before the casual-invasion of /v/ we were mostly unanimous and hated and loved the same games. We still do but there are 10x more casuals and women and kids and normies here who just come to the threads yelling "angry /v/irgins just can't enjoy games ;)"
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>>341998414
No, he's not wrong. There are two issues, one is that high settings bog the GPU down and the frame ends up being drawn later as a result. The fix for this is to play on low settings to speed up frame time.

The other issue is that Blizzard's engine has a frame buffer much like Unreal's oneframethreadlag, which, as you can imagine, adds a huge amount of input lag. This can't be turned off, which is sort of weird because most of their other games have this option.
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>>341999064
>20 tick
>no community servers
>no mods
>limited to 90 FOV
>no raw mouse input
>auto-aim, aim correction and worst hitboxes in any game ever made to date
how could anyone ever take this game seriously?
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>>341996753
comparing cuckwatch to tf2's launch state doesn't really help anybody though since tf2 at launch state doesn't really exist anymore.

I think a better comparison would be to how content is being made. WIth tf2, the community is making half the content, with cuckwatch, blizzard is going to make all the content.
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>2009 was 7 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geNMz0J9TEQ
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>>341998761
>>341999225
downside is that Legacy doesn't support the competition mode (etpro)
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>>341998971
If you seriously think you could handle interacting with Tracer on a daily basis, you are delusional or a young guy dazzled by Tracer's ass. Tracer is loud, stupid, and incidentally her accent comes from a part of England with a reputation for being lower class. She doesn't have a personality that would merely be hard to tolerate 24/7. She has a personality that would be hard to deal with at a 9-5 job. She talks, and talks, and has nothing to say.

And it would be fine if other characters in the OW animations and so on were frequently asking Tracer to shut the fuck up, but nobody does. They act like she's this cute person with a funny, lovable personality.

When Scout runs his mouth, the other mercs find the energy to put him down and tell him to shut up. They express clear annoyance with him. When Tracer runs her mouth, they smile and roll their eyes, like, "Oh, you!"
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>>341999312
I know how it feels. Rainbow Six Siege has a similar problem, even on PC. Aiming is a chore, it's like you're fighting against your own mouse.

I replayed Painkiller recently and the game runs like a dream. Controls and aiming are butter smooth, I wish modern games ran this well.
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>>341997324
>TF2 is always going to keep growing, and in 9 years...
Anon, I'm sorry.
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>>341993457
Wtf are you talking about delusional fuck?

I bet you think that /v/ is your friend
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>>341997924
Pretty sure there is just no talent left at Blizzard. Thats what happens to these companies who grow too big and popular. The talent gets forced out over time and mediocrity sets in.
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>>341999430
>limited to 90 FOV
>no raw mouse input
>auto-aim, aim correction and worst hitboxes in any game ever made to date

then it isn't even an FPS desu

PLAY ET[/Spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeA9gPAmY0
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>have fucking hand tremors
>can still snipe with ease in this game

why

>>341993040
>tfw I'm on this list and you only played Reaper once during beta
ggwp
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>>341995601
this is fucking with my brain, why is it noticably easier to hit people in overwatch if this gif is true.
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>>341999357
>This nigga spent $100 on TF2 keys and now feels like he has to defend it from the meanies at /v/
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>>341997625
Yeah let's ignore how the poster you replied to was talking about the launch state of TF2 and how you're talking about a video that came out five years later.

Let's also ignore how you apparently beleive that anything cutesy is automatically a "MLP reference & meme."

Get some reading comprehension you chump.
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>>341999947
Not him but I've spent $0 on TF2 and $0 on Overwatch and TF2 is/was a better game in every aspect
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>>341999912
This is just a collision box, so it only applies to projectiles. its actually simpler to hit people based on which directions maps face and some other stupid shit because valve. hitscan uses another set.
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>>341997632
Anon, you're allowed to prefer TF2, but hyperbole is not a good way to support your argument. Rocket jumping is "Run forward, aim down, jump, fire." That is 4 inputs, not "10+," and even that's being generous. In fact, it's exactly the same as Junkrat's mine jumping, which is "Run forward, throw mine, jump, trigger mine."
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>>341992223
>$40 for a game with endless replayability is overpriced
t.Poorfag
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>>341999947
$500 actually. Never unpacked an unusual item. FeelsBadMan
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>>341999686
Blizzard is just a soulless corporation now. Look at their facebook integration announcement, it's filled with plain corporate talk the kind you would write only as a suit to other suits, the company is completely dead.
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>>341995938
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>>341999580
>if you were me you'd think the exact same way

God thing I'm not you, then, throwing this much of a shitfit over a fictional character in a fictional game.
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>>341999713
because the game was designed with you in mind
they can't let their players feel bad, can they? everyone has to be recognized!
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>>341999713
>That image
Bruh
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>>342000328
>tfw i have an unusual just rotting away in my inventory but i never want to sell it
I know its not worth a ton either but i think i'd regret it instantly if i got rid of it.
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>>342000516
You're ok with silly people running their mouth? Good tastes. They're actually fun as characters as they are irl.
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>>341997625
>even had MLP references and memes in it
so why is this bad?
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>>342000304
>endless replayability
>12 maps
>3 game modes
dude you can see everything in a day
i can spend the rest of my life throwing a ball at a wall and catching it over and over again but that doesnt mean the ball has endless replayability
it just means im a fucking idiot
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>>342000748
spotted the horsefucker
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>>342000632
I stopped playing TF2 a long time ago. Had tons of stuff, not unusuals though but hats and old weapons. Sold them all, got about $30-40. Felt good man
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>>342000297
It's not hyperbole.
Rocket jumping in TF2 is more than just "go up" like in OW. You have surfing, pogo, crouching, wall jumping. And you need many inputs to pull these off.
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>>342000635
No, they don't bother me. Imagine that, other people are different from you.
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>>341997625
>meet the pyro has rainbows and lollipops in it
h-haha, m-mlp references, a-am-amirite guys?
fucking retard
why didnt you mention the ACTUAL mlp references that were added in that halloween update
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>>342000304
I played it during beta and for a couple hours on a friends account after release and I got bored.
Shitstomped every game because it takes no skill and saw every map.
>endless replayibility
yeah just like Skyrim amirite?!?!
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>>342000551
Except I've come to terms I will never be a godsniper again. I'm fine being a close quarters or trap guy to compensate for my shaky hands. Some days when I don't have a lot of shake I'll jump into a game of UT and fuck people up with the shock rifle. Playing Widowmaker feels like a hollow victory since I can headshot even when I'm at my worst.

Nothing is satisfying in this game
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>>342000831
okay, so?
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>>342000632
Why would you regret it
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>>342000942
I'm agreeing, mon ami. Because I'm someone like that and it works great for me. You're cool.
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>>342000994
>shitstomped low MMR people that were just starting out
>somehow thinks this is an indication of skill
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>>342000867
Explain to me how one rocket jump can take ten plus inputs in TF2. It's entirely possible that I'm a scrub, but I have a feeling that you're just full of shit.
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>>342001112
I'm a weirdo hoarder.

I don't like getting rid of anything ever. Physical or digital.
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>>341993040
I bet if you do this with Diva mains they are all called animeslut69 or kawaiigirl or whatever the fuck they are.
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>>342001197
He was exaggerating, but even still you use all of WASD, R, Ctrl, M1 and mouse movement in the same instant. At this point all the rocket jumping and surfing etc. are more complex that anything in OW
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>>341995927
This misinformation is a big reason you blizzcucks are looked down upon. The sliders number is not actual FOV. Max FOV in OW ends up being closer to 75 which is 25 too low for people who actually like playing FPS.
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Hey guys, here's a crazy idea

what if

stay with me here

what if both Overwatch AND Team Fortress 2 are good games?

what if you don't need to pick "a side" to shitpost endlessly on behalf of, and can just continue to enjoy

are you sitting down?

can continue to enjoy BOTH GAMES for what they have to offer?
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>>342001197
Here you go scrub
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>>341992223
Reminder that you are literally playing on a Corpse of a scratched game named Titan.
This all is just a rehash.
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>>341999713
Is that you cummies
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>>342001197
the most inputs for a rj in tf2 would be direction>jump>crouch>fire so 4. the other stuff is the exact same shit+strafing and timing.
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>>341999225
fuck anon this is fucking great how come things like these go under the radar.
we should meme this hard enough to get more people playing imagine a wolfenstein et /v/ server,there is so much fun potential in this.
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>>342001489
You're dealing with poorfag Valvedrones.

Literally nothing is good but Valve games
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>>342001603
it's funny because the Pharah one isn't even practical. You damage yourself way too much for very little extra air.
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>>342001242

You and the majority of idiots playing this game have this mentality so you're not alone.

Sold my shit for around 2000 dollars.

The only thing I regret is not having it done sooner.
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>>342001489
impossible, this is /v/ after all
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>>342001751
Reminder that devs reuse assets from failed projects all the fucking time.
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>>342001382
I don't know; that sounds about the same as Overwatch to me. Mine jumping involves WASD and mouse movement maneuvering, space to jump, shift to throw mine (which you also have to adjust the trajectory of with mouse movement) and right mouse button to trigger the mine. You can set this up in advance ( and do double mine bounces if you do) or you can do it all in one instant as a quick reaction to something.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why "ROCKET JUMPING IS HARDER" is the first thing that TF2 fanboys run to when trying to "prove" that Overwatch can't be competitive and has a low skill ceiling. Even if it were true - and I really don't think that it is - that's ONE MANEUVER out of the entire game.

I say this as someone who purchased TF2 when it was still in The Orange Box and continues to enjoy both it and Overwatch. I'm not trying to shit on TF2 here; just to point out that it's a shitty argument.
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>>342001812
>jump crouching instead of crouch jumping

Noob alert
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>>341992223
its a fun party game. fun with my IRL bros.

all content will be free as well. eat shit op. im having fun
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>>342001489
You could say this about literally every game ever, and there would be no need for this board.

"Atheism and Islam both have good things to offer guys! We can enjoy both for what they have to offer!!"
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>>342001860
Yeah the momentum you gain from self-damage in OW is almost non-existent. The webm could go with just pressing shift without shooting and nothing would change.
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>>342001762
No, and I changed my name on Battlenet to trigger neckboars and landwhales.
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>>342001951
Reminder that it's Blizzard who did it which automatically makes it bad. When any other dev does it we don't care.
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>>341992223
Cause it rekt battleborn and the retards that wasted money on it.
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>>342000829

Fun is objective you retard.

Some might find that activity appealing while others don't.

Why can't you grasp and understand the simplest of concepts? Are you fucking 12 or something?
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>>341992825
>>341992223
this
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>>342001603
generic rocket timings, holding crouch wow, tf2 rocket jumping is hard!
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>>342002004
It seems like people here who play it with friends like it, but the ones who play it alone see what it truly is and dislike it

So please leave to /r/Overwatch
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It's not fucking FAIR BROS
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TORTANIC 2.0
BROS
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>342001603
Here's your mistake; you're comparing Soldier rocket jumping with Pharah because she has rockets instead of with Junkrat's mines, which are actually a much more analogous maneuver.
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>>342001967
It's not "rocket jumping is harder", it's that OW doesn't have rocket jumping at all.
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