are we looking forward to Bannerlord /v/?
>E3 footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObwq1WaxQ8 [Embed]
I'm waiting.
gameplay is cut & paste from warband with shinier graphics, and I'm totally OK with that. It's all I wanted.
I hope we get a second ladder at least.
That ginger guy is a fucking liar, just like Todd.
>>341990763
bro did you watch the vid?
>>341990826
>>341989987
>copy and paste
>whole new engine
>new sieges
>influence mechanics
>new factions
>expanded map
>criminal stuff
>expanded town/village management
>etc.
The only thing that is possibly copy & paste is the basic four-directional combat system
All I want from butterlord is better seiges, and better diplomacy.
Also better combat strategy. The tactics you can do seem to consist of lining up and thats it, and even those lines completely dissolve and turn into a random scrum when an enemy gets near.
>>341991234
>expanded town/village management
More overhauled than expanded really, if not both
>>341989987
>sieges
>troop placement
>all the new features and gameplay elements talked about on the blog posts
Do you mean it has the same core gameplay?
>>341991234
>>341991357
I mean the actual fighting. Just watch the vid. It's even a lot of the same animations from warband.
Obviously the game is expanded in many other areas, but the core combat is exactly the same.
>>341991754
As someone who never played mountain blade but is interested in butterlord, what prevents someone from getting a bunch of horse back archers and just well, kiting everyone? Even if they have cavalry can't you just shoot their horses?
>>341992071
The horse archer AI is fucking retarded
And if you don't know what you're doing you'll get shot up yourself
Also it's boring as hell
>>341992221
Okay, but just from theory's sake, assuming you field an entire army of actual mounted archer players, not AI, and you guys are coordinating on vent or some shit and have enough team work and discipline to not fuck up, you would be utterly invincible in field combat no? Well at least until you run out of arrows but that's what the back up weapon is for yeah?
>>341989637
The AI is still utter dogshit, I see. I was hoping they'd make it in a new engine. It's abysmal.
The game is going to be completely open source. The devs are not retarded, and understand people buy their game mostly for mods.
>>341992486
Congrats, you've just figured out how the mongols and any nomadic tribe really, conquered vast swathes of land
>>341992486
I guess so. You could practically do the same by just going heavy cavalry though, there wouldn't be a need to put in that much effort.
Also if you bring arrows in your inventory you can pick up more ammunition in your baggage in your starting corner of the battlefield
>>341992486
Yeah, you can steamroll in with a pure mounted army but good luck in siege battles
>>341992486
No, if the enemy has a decent archer line you will be dehorsed/killed before you fired 3 arrows, and at that point you're a normal archer, ripe for the taking by enemy armored infantry/cavalry.
>>341992701
so it's free?
>>341992803
This, it's just that the AI doesn't aim for the horses
>>34199282
I'm not sure if you're being a smartass or not. But no, it's not a free game. If you purchase it though, you'll be able to have complete access to the code to do some real big overhaul mods and such.
>>341989637
I am a little sutistic about it, but I would really like if Talewords would bring back Black Knights as late-game challange and bring back Zendar :/
>>341993117
>10fps
What the fuck are you running on?
>>341993117
*autistic fml, I cant write fast
>>341992071
You run out of arrows and lose because khergits sucks ass at anything that isn't being an annoyance.
>>341993198
That's not my pic, just found it on google. Couldn't find better one with Black Knights
>>341993306
Best tacit is to spam swadian knights
>>341992824
You will be able to pirate it
>>341989637
that trailer cracked me up
but really im so fucking ready
I love how it looks now, I just hope they add more commands. There werent enough things you could order your troops to do in the first game.
>>341993551
How are they gameplay wise? I haven't played as a dwarf because they can't use mounts.
>>341993551
which LOTR mod? The Last Days?
Why haven't they bothered to give it an actual combat system?
>no rolling
>no parries
>no dual wield
>no dismemberment
>no combos
>no stances
How can anyone find this spam attack combat enjoyable is beyond me
>>341993786
>rolling
>duel wield
>combos
pure fantasy
>>341993786
There is parries
Kill yourself tho
>>341992071
having shields and armor
most of them dont have terribly strong bows, each one only gets around 30 arrows.
>>341993786
When you mash mount and blade with Dark Souls you'll get something that looks like Dynasty Warriors...
Let it be like it is. One, similiar combat system for all games would be no fun.
>>341992712
Yeah but rarely do games allow it to happen.
>>341992715
Well the big advantage I would assume is that you can kite the heavy cavalry, and still have superior mobility to infantry.
>>341992737
Hence I said specifically field combat. There's no way this would ever work in sieges, though I guess horses help pull siege weapons? I dunno how the game works.
>>341992803
But can't you just stay out of archer direct fire range, and utilize mobility to outmaneuver the archer lines while you shoot your arrows in arches for longer distances? Basically if you go skimming around max range of arrow fire so long as you aren't trying to kill a 10 archers running and ducking spread out but an actual entire line your arrow showers will more than likely hit more than theirs do no? I don't know how arrow mechanics work in the game so maybe it doesn't work like that, though I guess if the archers swapped to shields it'd be easy pickings.
But it sounds great that you can't cheese it even if you bring together an entire army of players.
>>341993786
Rolling is for anime shitters
Parries exist
Dual wielding is worthless and retarded
Mods
Attack more than once at a time and you have a combo :^)
Some weapons have different stances
In short: Kill you're self sempai
>>341993551
>>341993728
Yes TLD for warband with the patches.
I enjoyed playing dwarfs, they're little tanks when they get up close to the action. Hired elven archers for range and use dale troops for horese troops at the start.
>>341994258
Cheers mate, I played it with 0.808version of original m&b.
Shit was broken but also fun as fuck. Those spider mounts that could turn almost instantly, but you couldn't buy them in the shop, only start with them in inv as orc raider.
My guess is it's more playable right now?
>>341992486
The heavy cavalry the enemy utilizes counters light mounted archers. You need like 20 arrows to down a fully armored horse.
Also everybody and their mom has shields and getting behind the enemy line to shoot them in the back is a chore with your idiotic AI troops behind you.
Also mounted archer AI thinks he's heavy cavalry so your shitheads will charge instead of kite.
>>341993786
>spam
>get killed by a looter
>>341991754
They are obviously not the same animations from the Warband.
I think you meant that the same core 4-way attack/defense gameplay is the same. However there's additional factors in play: you can hit more than 1 target, and you can hit someone with the lower part of your sword now at the very beginning of your attack.
>>341992824
No, it's just semi-open, and there's probably still shitty stuff hardcoded like their shady netcode bullshit.
>>341989987
>new editor, engine and shit
>you can mod EVERYTHING
You thought you had seen the peak of modding with Warband?
Think again.
>>341994707
Isn't it more than 4 way attack/block combat now?
>>341994585
Yeah it's in a pretty good state. There's the odd bug here and there but nothing game breaking.
Latest version & patches here
https://tldmod.github.io/
>>341992701
>The game is going to be completely open source
This is not true. They clarified that the source code will not be released.
http://www.pcgamesn.com/mount-blade-ii-bannerlord/mount-and-blade-2-mods
However they will release this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM
>>341993981
>>rolling
>pure fantasy
>>combos
>pure fantasy
Not really. Just unnecessary fluff in the 4-directional combat system. There's no room for grappling and dagger finishers either, even though those were used too.
The similarity to Warband is vomit inducing, I expected something really new and all we get is Warband on steroids. I put so many hours in this game that even hearing the same scream sfx in this Bannerlord footage hurts me. This shit reminds me of all drawbacks and clunkiness of Warband and that's not good, let's face it.
>>341995068
>daggers
>in a military sim
pure fantasy
>>341989987
Cut and paste? What?
>>341994707
>They are obviously not the same animations from the Warband.
Have they balanced out how 2h animations have the shortest fucking chamber segment of any weapon class?
>>341989637
OF CHWOURSWE
>>341994885
Can't wait for mount and musket 2
I am. Got a singed poster from taleworlds for my birthday
Honestly the sieges were what I wanted most, followed by diplomacy and then more things to do in the world, which they seem to be covering well.
Can't wait senpai.
>>341989637
>[Embed]
Go back to /mbg/.
>>341995187
Now you're just tugging on my greaves, peasant.
>>341995026
oh, well damn. Thanks for the heads up. Atleast they're still giving us stuff to make modding easy.
>>341989987
God damn Warband has fucking amazing mods.
>ACOK
>Warsword
>That Japanese Feudal Mod
>TLD
I can't fucking wait to see what modders can do in Bannerlord. I just started playing Warsword now and the amount of effort put in is absolutely staggering. I love it.
>>341995301
have they settled on a release date yet? or at least a quarter?
>>341994989
Thanks, gotta try it out. I'm still stuck with Prophecy of Pendor. It's so much bigger than vanilla and I still haven't finished it.
>>341992486
There are spears and pikes so youll lose your horse pretty often in a charge. Arrows also are 1 shot head shots on horses.
Horses are not tanks in the game so you often wont be able to kite them as much
>>341995374
>can't wait for Viking Conquest-tier autism
Me neither, friendo
>>341995436
There was a tweet about late 16 for "getting it in to players hands", whatever that actually entails. If they hit that mark, I'd guess q1/2 release, but it's all pure speculation.
>>341995374
>warsword
>good
Does anyone knows how much money they made with Warband?
Where are they taking cash to finance the Bannerlord development? It takes years and it's still not finished.
>>341993786
>how can anyone find this spam attack combat enjoyable
You can say this about any game though, including the jedi knight games which have the best sword handling.
>>341995436
Never ever2017
>>341995545
The fuck did I just read?
>>341989637
>one of the best series of all time
>with a sequel that looks perfect
Na, not really.
>>341995545
What the fuck. Is this real?
>>341995712
Warsword's autistic old man dev ramblings.
>>341993786
>actual combat system
so uh any other games with awesome cav gameplay like warband?
>>341995545
Didn't one of the people working on the mod go into an autistic rage this week? Threaten to quit because someone asked him a simple question?
>>341993981
>>341994165
HEMA here. Dual wielding happened in Europe. We've got a few books that cover it. It also exists in Kali notably, the stick fighting system that stems from Spanish fencing. It covers two sticks, knives, machetes, and swords.
Personally I'm highly excited for the modding capability of the game. Having separate sword, axe, mace, hammer, rapier animations will be pretty neato. Being able to create new animations will allow for dual wielding finally. Now I can get a good renaissance period mod, and wield a pistol with a sword. Always wanted to do that.
>>341995549
They've sold somewhere between 6,000,000 and 7,000,000 copies at $5 to $20.
That's plenty to fund a small studio. I think they're also supported by a local university in Ankara.
I hope they add damage modelling to the castles because that castle looked like it hadn't just taken a bunch of hits.
>>341996091
>We've got a few books that cover it.
Which ones?
>>341996253
it would be dank, but they'll probably leave it as a healthbar
>>341996091
>fencing
>>341996301
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Giacomo_di_Grassi
Comes to mind. Lots of work has been done on his text, and it's fairly extensive.
>>341996450
>you can drive villagers into virtual slavery
>>341996474
Is the historically accurate term to refer to a system of defence, whereby weapons are used.
>>341993551
Atrocious design. What fucked up in the head sick fuck of a "human" being came up with that?
>>341996904
>>341995301
From your gf?
>>341996450
>Populance
wot
>>341989637
>shoots three arrows several feet over the ballister's head
I ended up shouting at the screen the moment his reticle was wedged that high up.
>>341997570
>turkroaches in charge of english spelling
>>341994589
>You need like 20 arrows to down a fully armored horse.
That sounds awesome, but does that mean the armored horses are fully protected top to bottom, no weak point what so ever? I mean when I see heavy cavalry I rarely see the lower parts of their legs covered, but maybe that doesn't matter in game.
>Also mounted archer AI thinks he's heavy cavalry so your shitheads will charge instead of kite.
Yeah, my theory was based on pure players, but it does seem kinda silly for the AI to be so backwards. Not being able to punch through armor is one thing, but charging heavy cavalry as light cavalry sounds like something you'd want to fix.
I just hope the tool kit allows for more basic moves like tying ropes to trees and stuff and baiting cavalry charges into them. It wouldn't even have to be part of the base game, just somehow workable kinda like how Skyrim modding is.
>>341995374
>A cock
>good
hope you enjoy the game completely shitting the bed because wars need to be canon, so let's gut the diplomacy features
>>341996961
Don't do this to me. Quality is so inconsistent in this mod. Rhune is ok. Elves and arnor are pretty great. Orcs and goblins are fantastic.
>>341989637
>mfw seeing the siege video
>>341997570
Yes?
