>gorgeous graphics
>world feels rich and alive
>memorable sidequests and main story
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
And you still talk shit about the gameplay?
Time to get off your high horse. This isn't a Souls game. The gameplay serves the game just fine and you know it.
>>341903706
I wish everyone put the dedication and effort into their games that TW3 has put into it.
If they put even half the effort the industry would be pretty amazing.
>>341903920
Agreed. Just started Blood and Wine, and I can already tell that this is going to be one of my favourite games of 2016.
The last patch added level scaling. The game is officially trash now.
bb-bb-but the combat is so c-c-lunky compared to blood souls
a-a-nd skyrim has s-s-ssometimes more players on steam online than w-w-itcher 3
> Find Ciri
> Find Yen
> Find Baron's wife and kid
> Find Triss
> Find Dandelion
> Find the Doppler
I love this game, but the first main quests are so boring.
>varied playstyle
>>341904560
>level scaling is a bad thing now?
Pretty sure you can turn it off if you dont like it
>>341903706
A lot of the sidequests in Bloodwine are pretty damn funny. Like the statue missing balls or the one where Geralt meets the red tape.
>>341904771
Doesn't matter, game balance is ruined.
>>341904852
>>341904970
Nice ancient meme dip, these are the people defending this game. I bet you applauded when CDPR consolized the interface in the last patch as well.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
No
>memorable sidequests and main story
No
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyles
No
>>341905147
Debate Club Champion 2013 right here
>>341905142
>CPDR adds OPTIONAL content
game is ruined now
logic.
>>341903706
>$0.35 has been deposited into your account by CDProjektRed
>>341904757
>not loving being a fantasy Columbo
>>341904757
>Barons quests were boring
Get fucked.
The problem is that it is way too easy. I've tried a multitude of builds during my playthrough, which was on Deathmarch. I didn't have any issues at any point.
There is simply zero challenge.
>>341905147
it's nice how you can just look at facts, say 'no', and the facts aren't true anymore
i guess that's why climate change and evolution aren't real
>>341905346
They're pivoting to consolefags, how else would you explain the tranny-centric DLC? Shit there's even a crossdresser in the main game.
>>341903706
maybe if the combat consisted of more than
10 Quen
20 Roll to back
30 Attack
40 Evade
Goto 10
I would be impressed.
>>341903706
>this thread again(you)
>>341904757
Novigrad was the best part in witcher 3.
Blood and Wine and the countryside expansion to Dying Light are the best modern add-ons. This is how it's done people. I wish GTAV had proper add-ons instead of boring multiplayer trash
>>341905603
fucking hell, 1 tranny ingame?
brb uninstalling
>>341905603
back to your containment board, kid, nothing polsonell
>>341903706
It's true, the gameplay is serviceable.
However, I prefer my games to be gameplay first, story second.
Open the option and turn off level scaling.
>>341905692
>No San Fierro or Las Venturas
>Just more SHIT for an MP worse than GTA IV after sending C&D's to people who could have made V MP actually good out of their basement for free like they did with SA
>>341905603
>$0.01 have been deposited to your Uplay account
>>341904757
it's literally so fucking shit, just finish Baron's quest, end to main menu, start new save and play through Heart of Stone's main quests. Then do the same for Blood and Wine.
Literally everything else is fucking shit. Like yeah, the side quests are better than the side quests in every other fucking game, but basically only because the side quests are actually voice acted, the core mechanics are still identical.
>>341905539
I never played the game from this viewpoint. I actually kinda enjoyed it not being much of a challenge because I enjoy the narrative and I'm always wanting to get on with the story compared to a game like oblivion or skyrim where I didn't really care so much about the story and I just wanted to get cool swords, armour and kill monsters in caves etc
But the gameplay is still shit.
>>341903706
>varied gameplay
>quen
>mash light attack
wow
>>341905892
Why would they put it in the game if it wasn't the intended way to play?
>>341906040
autism
>>341903706
Gameplay is literally the most important part of the game.
That being said the gameplay isnt horrendous and its kind of a given that RPG's have mediocre gameplay.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
Not as good as it should have been, but okay.
>world feels rich and alive
I will say that the main cities looks great and actually alive, but the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back.
>memorable sidequests and main story
I honestly done multiple sidequests and I cant remember a single one right now. The main story is easy to remember because its literally just "look for Ciri"
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
I just put everything points on fast attacks, equip strenght mutagens, upgraded Quen and I never had problem with any enemy.
I enjoyed the game but its extremely overrated around here.
>>341906158
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>341906279
Nice name, fag
>>341906040
Maybe people asked for it so they added it for people who wanted it?
I don't get it, gamers are so jaded from being fucked by games in the past that when one actually listens to things some people ask for and adds an option for them free they become confused and angry.
>>341905608
every single book ever made sucks
it's just
>move your eyes to read the black text on the white/gray paper
get it together, bookfags
>>341906279
>the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back
but it isn't
>>341904584
BloodSouls has the clunkiest combat Ive ever played. Nothing is fluid in that game, hell Castlevania had better combat.
>>341906279
I haven't used Quen in like twenty levels
>>341906279
actually, you are wrong with the
> but the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back.
the world map is VERY detailed and handmade. just go to some random location and check those roads, on which carts and horses have been going. every rock is different size, roads twist and are very realistic.
some youtuber actually made video of him walking around witcher world for 30mins and explaining how well made the world is
>>341905571
you came first by saying etablishing on your own those facts, therefore you need to argue first.
HOLY FUCK GERALT IS A FUCKING MADMAN
HE TOTALLY TOOK GAME OF THE YEAR
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>341906304
No, he's saying you have autism. And you do.
>>341906820
NOT AN ARGUMENT NOT AN ARGUMENT
I don't think so OP.
I respect the studio, but I think they miss the mark on that one. And it has to be said and discussed. How do you expect the studio to get better if we don't discuss what we thought didn't work (not that others have to agree, but at least they can take the decisions with better perspective).
Twice I rebounded on that game, and now that I've put a bit more thought into, I think the game systems in place detract from one another; there are conflicting designs at works, and it diminishes the game in the end. And that's before mentioning issues of game play and narrative as they intertwine.
>>341906481
It's a decent analogy but what anon is trying to say is that he wants to read Fahrenheit 451 and the Witcher 3 feels more like a See Spot Run
>>341907049
>>341906279
>>341906772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BsJ1TRMh8
>>341907240
Just because I want a reason to post this
>>341907701
Thanks, really interesting.
>>341906520
You're a legitimate retard
This board never gets better. I'm going back to playing Total War: Warhammer. I wish there were more than 4 factions.
They fucked up the potions with the strong alcohol bullshit. If they want to auto refill potions have them come from the actual ingredients. Otherwise like twenty five percent of the game is thrown out of the window.
Maybe I'm the only person who likes to harvest shit to craft stuff.
>>341906034
Dark souls.
>Parry, stab, roll, repeat
>>341908306
Me too. I hope they announce something soon.
Enjoying B&W for now though.
>>341907191
thisI think witcher 1 had the best combat since it was more multifaceted and you had to think a little more regarding prep time. I played on hard mode though
>>341905939
>its literally so fucking shit
if this is how you express yourself you dont have the right to have an opinion , kill yourself
>>341907240
Yeah, nah fuck you.
Just look at the contrast between the pseudo-realistic world and then the player economy and what it entails for loot and item creation. There's a complete disconnect between the two.
Friend of mine jokingly refers to this as "post-scarcity medievalism". And that's a real problem. You have too much of everything in a world that's supposed to be be in crisis, you can sell basically anything whether it makes sense or not. There's too much loot and rotation of gear, in order to accommodate the leveling I gather. Which makes sense from a purely systemic point. The problem is that the system does not mesh all that well with the narrative that supposedly informs it.
There's the problem of density of event spreads to keep things interesting, repetition and verisimilitude.
There's the UI. And I'll just leave at that. The UI. Across all games, that clearly hasn't been CDPR's forte and I think they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology.
The combat itself could get a part all its own, but it's as if you cared, isn't it?
>>341908717
Did you never have to go buy ingredients for crafting whatever armor you chose? I did. I feel like it would have been an awful lot of berrypicking to have a constantly deflating resource pool making you have to search out random individual ingredients.
Even something subtle like a hunger/thirst mechanic would make economy pretty rough I think.
>>341905473
I don't think Columbo follows a colored line from one checkpoint to another.
>>341908719
>dark souls
>light attack
>heavy attack
>roll
>parry
>riposte
>backstab
>block
>countless magic
>handful of pyromancy
>bows and arrows
>countless movesets for different weapons
>witcher 3
>quen
>light attack
>>341909085
>they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology
>>341909276
can you name a game where investigative segments didn't use some sort of gimmick to get people to go from point A to point B? Even LA Noire does this, and it's basically Detective: the video game
>>341903706
I will always remember this game as the overrated game with mediocre gameplay. So bad, in fact, I had to uninstall sometime after the Bloody Baron quest line.
If only they had put as much effort into the gameplay as they did with everything else.
>>341909314
don't be an autist. 95% of people who played DaS just roll and smash either light or heavy attack then roll again, an maybe drink a flask or 2. The other combat features are so redundant and not viable
I beat my first blind playthrough of Dark Souls w/o any attunement slots. Never casted a single spell. Never riposted or parried any enemies. Whereas in The WItcher 3 some encounters do require you to use your auxiliary attacks and combat mechanics like bombs, signs, oils, decoctions, and potions (see? i can do it too, the last 3 things are literally the same thing)
>>341904584
Wait, people say the combat is clunky in TW compared to Souls?
This game is lightyears better than Souls, but it's still average at best. The gameplay is really fucking boring.
>>341905608
Why are you listing 10s?
>>341909314
Sure if you wanna play that game:
>Brew potions
>Apply Oil
>Quen
>Strong attack
>Parry
>Light attack
>Roll
>Bombs
>Light attack
>Aard
>Arrows
>>341909376
Not him but I can't- It still doesn't excuse the shitty investigative mechanics. It just means that there aren't any good investigative mechanics. Maybe they should have focused their efforts on something else.
>it's a Souls vs Witcher thread
Wow, thanks guys!
>>341909375
Well, if you wanted some good UI work to be done in my time, that's definitely the background you were looking for.
I guess nowadays they have "UI people" which, on top of the top-down standards imposed by hardware manufacturers would explain the overall homogenization - and sometimes misuses.
Given you haven't bothered to discuss the rest, I guess there's no point in adding to it.
>>341910367
Souls games are centered around the combat/gameplay, which is what Witcher does not excell in (not saying that it is horrible), thats why soulsfags find it easy to shit on.
>>341910087
Still worse lmao
>>341910676
Neither games excel at gameplay.
I guess that's why TW is at least a little tolerable, it has some substance where as Dark Souls is a clunky, console button masher with nothing else going for it.
>>341910905
I wonder what electronic game this anonymous internet poster purchased?
>>341909376
Sam & Max
>>341911226
Pirated both, uninstalled both well before finishing. Made it a little further in TW3 though.
>>341903706
Funny thing is that the same people that shit on this is now out i full force praising the new Zelda.
>>341906520
So you've never played Skyrim? The combat is maybe a little clunky if you compare it to Bayonetta or something...
>>341904331
>>341903920
>>341903706
>game play is not important in a video game
You're what's wrong with the industry
I agree it's a great game. just wish people would stop calling it a great rpg. it's rpg elements are as weak as some Bethesda or bioware game
Daily reminder that Witcherfags thrive of haters posts.
If you anti-Witcherfags don't post this Thread would drop down the pages faster than their player count.
Stop giving them (You)'s and just enjoy as they get mad over having zero discussion of their game.
>>341912987
Avatarfags are worse then anyone else.
>>341903706
I kinda forced myself to love the game because everything is nice ...Except the combat. He moves like a fucking truck and fighting 4 wraiths in death march is harder than any boss.
>>341912623
it is
but if the game's focus is EVERYTHING else it still can turn out really good
also in my opinion TW3's gameplay was good, slightly above average, not the best certainly but good
>>341913419
This pretty much, I put in 200 hours into the game mainly because it was so detailed and I wanted just to SEE everything and I always had this hopes in the back of my head that the gameplay would get better at some point but that never really happened. Mostly the new things like the Runewright and the new Mutagen things were interesting to hear about and then you feel excited about getting it but then you do and it's nothing that special. The game just needs more balance really, it has a lot of elements but is doesn't balance them well it just seems like they threw them in there for whatever reason and just put most of the effort in graphics and story detail.
>>341904584
this so much, yes in the witcher you can drink pots use oils and whatnot but you are always doing the same fucking attacks over and over. at least souls has rolling attack, jumping attack, plunging attack, running attack, light and strong atks, weapon art light and strong attacks. fights just feel so much more varied and more options as to how you actually fight, where as the witcher has more "pre fight" options rather than actual combat options
>>341903706
The combat ruins everything, because everything leads to combat, you cant avoid it. I spent more time running around playing card games and avoiding everything because it was that clunky. Everything feels like a dps check, dodge a hit 'take 0 dmg' it still hits you just does nothing because crappy mechanics for 3 games and nothing learned.
>>341903706
>memorable side quest
Yes, I loved the one where you followed the red line
>>341911760
wow what a savvy consumer :)
>>341903706
>This isn't a Souls game
In all honesty. Souls gameplay ain't that great either.
>>341915141
What can I say, I vote with my dollar.
>>341908717
There's a mod for autists like you, makes every item single use.
>>341915429
>you have to download mods to make the game playable
I can't think of a single good game where you had to do this.
>>341915407
All you can do these days
>>341915535
>implying the alchemy system is broken
His case is an extreme. Normal people don't want to spend hours running around collecting herbs.
>The Witcher 3 looks gorgeous
When will this meme end?
It literally looks average. When you bring this up people say it's somehow justified because "THE GRASS MOVES".
So fucking what if it's open world, doesn't make it look any less average.
>>341912987
This to be honest.
>>341915535
>autistic berrypicking mods are the only thing that make a game playable
>>341915759
it looks great when it stands still
there are so many little animation glitches tho
>>341912987
>trying to rally a personal army against a video game
>>341915741
Except you get ingredients thrown at you. Why even have fucking harvestable shit everywhere with map markers and shit and you don't even have to fucking do it after the first time.
>>341903706
>WE HAVE TO FIND ____
>BUT TO FIND ____ WE NEED TO FIND ____
>GO TO _____ AND FIGHT TEN DROWNERS
>THEN COME BACK WITH ____ AND THEN WE'LL FIND ____
>BUT THEN IT'LL TURN OUT THAT FIRST WE NEED TO GO FIND _____
>[Witcher Vision]
And that concludes our overrated narrative slog for the day.
>>341905603
>pivoting to consolefags
>tranny-centric DLC
How does that even compute?
>>341909002
>kill yourself
>if this is how you express yourself you dont have the right to have an opinion
>>341918034
Everything that's wrong with the games industry, according to soft, shitty PCucks sitting in their armchairs, is because of Consoles and the people who own them.
Don't even respond. It's not worth engaging this shit-tier demographic of sex-mod neckbeards and degenerate thieves.
>>341903706
Witcher was never about gameplay (combat), faggots that complain about it never played 1 or 2 that's for sure. Witcher 3 improved it, but it's still subpar, I agree that's not what makes The Witcher 3 great.
Even the Mass Effect sequels have more variety in play style than W3.
>>341917943
I can't think of one side quest, or even a Witcher contract where any of that happens. I actually don't even remember doing a kill X amount of Y then come back to me type of quest.
>>341904331
I also started the lasted DLC. The first DLC was so great, that feels and the "party" were just great. How the fuck can DLCs be so good?
I am so hyped for Blood and Wine. The Witcher 3 is the game I ever wanted and now that I have it, I can't even believe it.
>>341909646
So you're admitting it's a shit tier RPG. Lmao
Let this game rot on /vg/ where it belongs
![comment_8hMz7ZQJLYJJBoXLIqXYWKkt07SzZuNB[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1ZrydTO.jpg "comment_8hMz7ZQJLYJJBoXLIqXYWKkt07SzZuNB[1].jpg")
Just finished the Blood and Wine main story. Pretty fucking neato - especially the bit where yougo to fucking fairytale land.
I'm wondering what endings everyone got? I got the ending whereeveryone dies.
>>341915759
its the best looking game ive ever laid eyes upon
you must be some jaded fuck to think that it doesnt look great
I just uninstalled TW3.
this game is so fucking boring, i'm about 2 hours in, when does it get good? I got out of the starting area.
>>341921376
ending to the dlc or main game?
>>341921583
I'm a jaded fuck to see that many other great looking games look better than an oversaturated (and overrated) game?
It doesn't even have good textures!
>>341921761
It doesn't.
It's length is it's only selling point.
>>341903706
gameplay is the key component of a video game
>>341921790
For the DLC, Blood and Wine specifically.
I got the worst ending for the main game because I fucked up a conversation option somewhere. Feels bad man.
>Want to discuss Witcher 3
>"Should I just start a Witcher 3 thread?"
>"Nah, I'll just bait some shitposters, that's sure to create good discussion"
>>341920047
I just started playing Blood and Wine myself, and holy shit, CDPR managed to capture Not-Italy perfectly, and I just LOVE the vibrant colors Toussaint has. A DLC has no right in being better than the main game.
I'd also fuck thatbird girl when she's a bird.
>>341912623
luckily TW3 has good gameplay
>>341922870
Works for monster hunter
>>341903706
Don't forget HOT AS FUCK main character.
>>341922980
To me, the main thing that makes the region look more vibrant is the lighter shade of green used for the grass and the lighter shade of blue used for the sky. It's a subtle change but it really makes a big difference.
I got more of a French Riviera vibe personally, but I think Toussaint is an amalgamation of all those wine-making regions so calling it not-Italy is a fair observation.
>>341923596
I did notice this as well, though my initial feelings felt it was more Italy, so I just ran with that for the most part. But French Riviera definitely fits very much as well.
>>341904560
TW3's leveling system is absolute garbage, though.
>>341913419
What's hard about wraiths? The only dangerous thing they can do is their stealth teleport bullshit and you can avoid that entirely by backstepping twice or rolling on reaction.
Shit, I don't even think I got hit once by the wraiths when I did the Penitent fight on death march
>gorgeous graphics
>downgrade grass to the most shitty shader
>>341905603
>Shit there's even a crossdresser in the main game.
No he isn't nigger. The elf wants to be a doublegangger. He likes the idea of changing his identity. If you do the fight club side quest he's actually the champion of his city.
Come back on. Still the same people shitposting about TW3
>>341909085
>There's the UI. And I'll just leave at that. The UI. Across all games, that clearly hasn't been CDPR's forte and I think they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology.
1.21 completely changed the UI and it's much better.
>>341909314
>>countless movesets for different weapons
I love Souls and this is bullshit. Weapons in souls have mostly the same moves that are mixed around for different weapons. Occasionally you'll have a single unique move for a handful of specific weapons.
>>341926714
That's fucking awful.
Honestly people who are having problems with the combat should just play an alchemy build.
Bombs become ridiculously powerful and you become near invincible once you have Enhanced potions and are able to max all the necessary skills. It sounds OP but I love it because I think it's the closest to actually feeling like Geralt would actually fight. It allows you to be graceful in combat, capitalize on the insanely good effects of potions or even decoctions should you choose, and allows you to use bombs situationally for crowd control. I love the game for everything but the combat and going alchemy made playing the game fun for me again.
Almost 200 hours into the game. Started a NG+ but I think I'm just done with this. No RPG can satisfy me like this one did. Gonna have to just wait for Cybepunk 2077.
>>341907240
>>341909375
You're the worst kind of person.
End yourself.
>>341926824
>cutscene lighting mod
>>341904852
>>341904560
>>341905147
>>341905608
>>341918289
>implying it isn't mustard race fags who shill this shitty game over actually good games like Bloodborne
>>341920047
>How the fuck can DLCs be so good?
Because it's DLC in the sense what Command & Conquer titles had. Not some shitty ten dollar horse armor.
>memorable sidequests
>>341920047
Because CDPR has amazing writers and game planners.
The writing in Hearts of Stone is better than most other independent RPGs. Blood and Wine is great but it doesn't reach as high as HoS did.
It's the only game I've been genuinely into in the last 10 years. I've spent 3 or 4 months on it, and I still haven't explored even 1/3 of it.
Each time I play, I discover something cool and new I never knew was there. And I'm still shit at mixing potions, but just finally fixed up my house and discovered the new lab.
Whole thing is so fucking cool.
>>341928463
Even that had an underlying mystery that you slowly uncovered while completing each task. No sidequest in The Witcher 3 is cut and dry, there's always a twist and something you never really expected that you find out over the course of the quest. It's even as little as completing a simple witcher contract and the guy going "sorry I don't have the money right now." It may not be profound but its something, enough to make it even a little interesting and worth the time it took to do it.
>>341928463
And? It's a series of quests specifically designed to tie together points of interest instead of just having a million distant, otherwise content void ?s strewn about the map.
>>341928463
Oh fuck off.
>>341928502
While I'm here, I've spent literally entire weekend trying to beat "The Frog Prince" and just cannot do it.
I have watched videos, I have spent hours trying (which blows bc each time you die, takes 5 mins to reload).
Does anyone have any advice for how to beat the fucking Frog Prince? Yes, I have googled it, tried everything. and I'm fucking suicidal at this point but still won't reduce difficulty bc that ruins entire thing.
What am I doing wrong? Please, this is literally making me lose sleep, any advice...
I literally have no idea why people shit talk this game. It is hands down a extremely well developed title and should be taken as an example for how dlc should actually be done, too. It's probably one of the best games I've ever played, and I have no idea how it got so much funding in the first place, the witcher 2 definitely pales in comparison.
>>341928463
>The tale of two warring vineyards fighting to buy the lands of a Count killed during the main plot; each of them secretly sabotaged in a plot that you piece together as you go along and depending on your actions can either conclude on injustice or an awesome little ending.
Fuck off nigger.
>>341928985
trap it with the yrden
>Assassinate Radovid
>No one in Novigrad notices
CDPR didn't think this through
>>341910087
nobody uses any of the shit you just listed faggot
>quen
>mash light attack
the fucking end.
it's pointless to brew.
it's pointless to make bombs.
everything other than light attack is useless.
>>341929168
>rap it with the yrden
have tried. What potions do you use, and do you just keep using Igni and different bombs and just not even get close to it with sword?
didn't have anything like this with other "boss" characters in the game.
Have gone and done a bunch of the new one, leveled up and gone back, and still just failing.
At this point, wish I knew someone IRL who had done it bc would pay a nigger $50 just to do it for me.
>>341929208
Yo what where are you?
>>341929501
visiting based Ge'els in Tir ná Lia
>>341929262
>I play like a retard, that means everyone does!
Why wouldn't you use things that help you fight better.
>>341929476
It's honestly frustrating as hell. You really just gotta get it with Yrden and poke it while it recovers from its attacks. You obviously cant get near it often because it does its overpowered body slam attack too often but if you use Yrden you can usually dodge roll in range fast enough to get a few swipes in.
As far as potions go just use the basics, Swallow, Thunderbolt. Golden Oriole if you're poisoned, and you will get poisoned.
I would never actually defend the design of this boss fight. It's not fun.
>>341929673
Ooooh wow. It's been a long time since I've played that section of the game, I completely forgot.
>>341929501
Tir ná Lia, home of the Aen Elle
>>341928985
Roll around a lot.
Literally hit it once, then start rolling until you can get close again to do it all over again.
>>341912521
Skyrim has top tier combat.
The magic system is unique and nuanced.
>>341929801
>I would never actually defend the design of this boss fight. It's not fun.
I feel like all encounters could be fixed if the enemies had more than 2/3 moves that they spam over and over again in the same exact pattern.
Yeah, I sure love spinning around like a retard in combat. White-haired protagonist who gets all the girls, is great at sword fighting and magic and oh he hunts monsters too in a suuuuper deep and gritty fantasy setting based off Tolkien Template #123553 Why does no one call it this anime-tier garbage?
>>341929801
How many times did it take you, curiously? It's like no other "boss" in game. It esp sucks to make a "boss" that hard when it blocks access to rest of the DLC until you beat, and you wait 5mins for it to reload each time you die.
Do you hit it with a lot of bombs or just Igni?
Much as I love the game, this has me suicidal.
>>341929949
The problem with this boss is all of its attacks are unfairly powerful, they all put you in that annoying stun state and they all poison you.
>>341917943
Why is Witcher vision even a thing? Why can't Silver the Hedgehog just notice footprints WITHOUT me holding down a key?
>>341903706
>isn't a Souls game
why do people talk like souls has the best combat of any game ever?
by what metric did they come to this conclusion?
>>341929871
>Literally hit it once
So no ignite or bombs? Also, which sword and which oil? I keep applying hanged man's venom, just doesn't seem to be doing it.
I know, I'm being a douche bag, but have never had a "boss fight" make me this crazy before. Took a day off from work last week just to do it, played from 8am to 7pm and could not do it.
>>341930073
Maybe two or three but that's because I make myself deliberately overpowered in nearly all of my playthroughs, and I was still getting my ass handed to me. I was being really impatient because I don't particularly enjoy the combat in this game, but once I learned to slow down and play methodically and I finally got the build I wanted I started to appreciate it more.
>>341921761
I'm 20 hours in, and I'm still waiting for the point where I actually start to have fun.
>>341903706
>Witcher 2 is on Linux
>Witcher 3 is not
>I couldn't play it on my computer anyway, only have a 560Ti
Might pick it up if I ever get a ps4 when the next generation comes out.
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 comes out on Linux.
>>341921761
>>341930306
Maybe there's a chance that its just not the game for you. If you don't fall in love with the world and its characters then there isn't much for you.
when do i get to kill that one witch that flew off with vesemirs medallion?
>>341930289
>make myself deliberately overpowered in nearly all of my playthroughs,
Ddi you use the beehive cheat with blacksmith to get monies and power up? I've kept to version 1.2 in case I need to do it, about to bc want better armor to just beat this motherfucking frog.
>>341921761
>>341930306
>>341930426
if you haven't read the books, or care about the world, or played any of the previous games, you won't care for witcher 3. It does a poor job of introducing the returning characters, which makes up 99% of the cast, even those taken over from the books. CDPR just assume that you're familiar with them and there's constant references to events from the books.
>>341929690
Because the dominant strategy of
>Quen
>light attack
is literally all you need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZmTEtLs8A&feature=youtu.be
>>341921761
>when does it get good? I got out of the starting area.
Once you get into the other worlds and see just how big it is and how all the people are different, you'll probably like it more.
I didn't really get into it until I got into choosing to fuck Triss (even though she then backstabs you) and all the shit with Yennifer, definitely the only "hot" animated character I've ever seen.
Give it time and be ready for anything and take time to explore. I haven't played video since I was 14, got this after a friend recommended it and was best (or maybe worst) thing I've done n a while bc I'm obsessed with it to where I actually bought the guide book.
>>341904757
>not loving the baron
Fuck off to back to the sludge you crawled out of.
>>341922870
This board is solely made of hipster shitposters anyway
Skyrim and the Witcher 3 are the best games ever created so far and /v/ can't stop shitting on them
>>341930835
The problem isn't the world or the story at large. Hell, I could see myself getting into the series if I started with the books first. But the crux of it all is that I hate the gameplay. And since it IS a game, I do think that's a bit of an issue.
BANANA TIGAH
>>341930693
I usually level myself to the point where I can unlock the skills I want for the build and then use console commands to give myself the Witcher gear I want. I didn't do that on my first playthrough, though, and every playthrough after that has been to explore the world and experience the story again. I went through all the tedium to craft the shit I wanted and boy was it tedious. I'd rather just enjoy myself.
>>341903706
Don't waste your time anon. You've played it, you know it's an amazing game, most everyone agrees with you, everyone who shits on it are just contrarian fags who are a VERY vocal minority. Is it perfect? No, no game is, and no game will ever be loved by everyone. So enjoy your game anon, I just finished blood and wine, and I thought it was awesome.
>>341931126
Do you identify yourself with him?
>>341930835
Except that's wrong retard. If you read the books you'll be super butthurt about how different everyone is. If you haven't then you'll only care that Triss and Yen are hot and Ciri is your daughterfu.
>>341931048
I have never seen him behave like this in the five or six times I've played this section. It shouldn't even be happening. Geralt's attack should be bouncing off his axe.
>>341921376
>everyone dies
Well,you fucked up.
>>341921761
(You)
>>341928235
It's called expansion.
Felt so good killing these sluts.
It's one of the worst games I've played in years that has received the most critical praise, I honestly don't understand why.
The looting and crafting systems are one of these awful staples of modern games, and these are about as much irrelevant and useless padding as any others. Whenever I want to get healing or buffing items I have to go out into the vast and totally empty open world and collect a bunch of shit, with no effect but to waste my time. There really are no redeeming qualities to this system. Found loot is nicer, except when you get gear that is a number of levels higher than is required, even though the requirement is completely arbitrary and only serves a game function of balance.
As far as combat, it's as disappointing as everyone has said it is. I started off on the hardest difficulty and had to progressively go down to medium several hours in. You have on the one hand monsters that deal massive damage to you because they have an arbitrary red skull over their heads, even though they look and behave exactly like their non-leveled equivalents. Most of the fighting is simply tedious on higher difficulties based on arbitrarily puffing up monster stats, but what truly infuriates me is the animation and hit detection. Every fight feels like a struggle with input lag and a morasse of overly long animations on both the player's side and every NPC. The whole thing just feels exceedingly clumsy compared to any other straightforward action games like MGR, GOW or DMC.
I threw in the towel yet again when I got into a fist fight with 4 or 5 other npcs. They each dealt a third or fourth of my health bar, even though I was dealing much less to them. It just doesn't make any sense, a fist is a fist.
I'm 26, maybe I've played too many games at this point, but I just don't have any patience for gamey shit anymore.
>>341930450
The only way to kill her is to have Ciri die when she confronts the White Frost.be a shit dad
Thread begins :"I like witcher."
Ravenous bloodsouls fans: "REEEEEEEE"
TW fans: "Stop it! You just say the same thing each time!"
Thread ends.
>>341931182
>But the crux of it all is that I hate the gameplay
The fighting might not be great, but the graphics and getting to actually pick which way things go while you explore the worlds...
I actually stood up a girl for a date so I could stay home and try to fuck Jennifer for the first time.
I guess you either really get into it or don't. Also, I'd argue it's better played on PS 4 with a 65 inch 4k TV and speakers to really enjoy the graphics and story.
This game just has me hooked in a way no other has. I can't stand edge lords here who pretend they are somehow "above it." It has a few flaws, but the fun is to go into it blind (not knowing spoilers) and just see how your different choices impact what happens.
Then play over again and make different choices and see what happens.
>>341903706
What surprises me in Witcher 3 discussions is people really take the "cinematography" in the talking segments of witcher 3 for granted.
Compare most of the talking scenes in Witcher 3 to the talking scenes in modern Bioware and Telltale games and you can tell the quality isn't even close. In Witcher 3 there are a variety of different shots used in a single scene and there is good usage of blocking, spacing and depth of field. Not only is the base game good they double down on the cinematography in the expansions, every scene you have with Regis and Gaunter o Dim looked great and plenty of thought was out into scenes with them. The closest competitor CDPRD has in that department is Don't Nod with what they did with in Life is Strange.
>>341931048
>level 4
>in that section
>AI behaving in extremely odd ways
Gee I wonder if this slav is being honest.
>>341903706
eh maybe.
I'll never find out because the 1st game is so fucking terribly awful though.
>>341931725
Lower the difficulty
The combat of the game is ass and increasing the difficulty just increases frustration.
>>341903706
So a GAME with bad GAME play is good now?
>>341931984
Yeah, other story driven RPGs seem to make almost exclusive use of shot/reverse shot for dialogue, probably out of laziness. Bioware is the biggest offender.
When will /v/ admit Witcher 3 is the pinnacle of what modern AAA strives to be? It has all the hallmarks of an AAA game from quest markers, to cinematic storytelling. Witcher 3 at it's very core is a a cinematic story driven fetch quest simulator with bad gameplay and a broken combat mechanic. It is basically a AAA game done right.
Meanwhile games like Nioh and From soft games are olden games brought into the modern era. They look like modern AAA games but remove the veneer you realize that Nioh/Fomrsoft games are designed like how older games were designed to be. Gameplay focused, great art that emphasis gameplay and the difficulty level while not as bad as NES games is still present. Basically Nioh/Fomrsoft games is an old school game with a coat of modern paint and it seems a lot of people have been really casualised by modern easy games and no longer appreciate challenge and/or difficulty in video games which results in the Witcher 3 fandom that is destroying video games.
The police re going to find my corpse eventually with a controller in hand and notes and google videos all over on how to defeat this fucking frog prince.
>MFW everyone is talking about cool shit that comes after this frog that I can't get to. I just lowered difficulty to "just the story..." and still lost to him.
Why didn't they put it a cheat? There was one hard boss early on with Triss, but you could sit back and just shoot arrows at the nigger for 20 mins until he died.
I'm at wit's end with this. Going to be in a psych ward mumbling about "the frog prince" soon...
>>341932576
Lower the difficulty and start using bombs
>>341932550
>implying that we cant have both
>>341932550
Kill yourself. People like you would have us go back to Space Invaders and Pac-Man if they involved more skill than a modern AAA game.
Can you understand how absurd your position is to anyone who doesn't get a sense of achievement from playing children's and young adult's entertainment?
>>341931356
Except it isn't wrong, retard. The only differences are Emhyr, Eredin and the Hunt's motivations you shitskin.
There's plenty of references to the books and events that transpired in them.
>>341926714
I'm on a relatively high end PC but the grass density/view distance kills my FPS
I can't imagine actually having to render good looking grass. The game would run at sub 10fps on a 970/290x
>>341932167
>>341931725
>a-artificial difficulty
>i-it's not hard I'm just too good for it! haha!
t. scrubs
>>341931760
>tfw didn't realize that I was being a shit dad until my daughter died
>still the best ending
Playing through the game again so I can change a bunch of decisions I made and the ending, but the 'bad' ending is still my favorite from a storytelling standpoint.
>>341931725
>I have to go out into the vast and totally empty open world and collect a bunch of shit, with no effect but to waste my time
you can buy all that shit from merchants, most materials you'll get naturally by fulfilling contracts
>crating systems are about as much irrelevant and useless padding as any others.
literally all the best gear is obtained through the crafting system
>morasse of overly long animations on both the player's side and every NPC.
you can literally cancel every single one of your actions with a simple dodge, it's what makes the combat so easy
>input lag
literally never noticed any
confirmed for either not playing or not paying any attention
>>341932907
So you admit witcher 3 is a cinematic story driven experience with bad gameplay?
>>341930267
chivalry medieval warfare has the best sword based combat in a game, idk where these fags are getting their boner for the Souls series
>>341903706
My name is /v/ and I hate everything and witcher suck!
>>341904560
it a toggle you big retard.
>>341931760
>>341933274
who is that werewolf at the end anyway?
>>341933320
Sure, it has bad game mechanics. It's still a good game, though.
>>341904560
it added level UPSCALING, retard.
it's a toggle and it barely works
Why is TW2 so much shittier than TW1?
>>341933320
>story driven
Kind of like how every CRPG from the early 2000's like BG2 and PS:T were story-driven, right? Except in this case reading text from a box constituted good gameplay whereas choreographed/acted/voiced semi-cutscenes are more boring exposition used to entertain 12 year olds, right?
>>341931725
You want an action RPG heavy on action, the Witcher is RPG more than anything else.
>>341931725
look at this faggot. look at this faggot and laugh at his shit baiting/shit taste.
>>341932576
Frog prince is gay, but I managed to beat him on death march
It's weak to fire if you have an upgraded igni or those fire and gas bombs
Otherwise cursed oil and continually roll towards it. Roll can be timed so that you're still rolling when he lands from his jump and take no damage. Then you have 1-2 strikes until he jumps again
Wait till the final boss fight from that dlc you will get your ass munched 10 times before you even begin to figure out what's going on
>>341933493
see thats the thing, i dont understand how you can call it a good game despite the fact that the gameplay is bad. this is what I mean about casualization.
>>341933728
quote my whole post next time instead of strawmanning and taking posts out of context to built a nonargument.
>>341903706
combat sucks. gameplay in a video game. learn it.
>>341903706
>gameplay is irrelevant in a video game.
The combat is shit, the world is shallow and empty, you can interact with nothing, and 90% of the content is MMO quest tier bad. Only main quests and contracts are good.
>>341933415
As far as I know Morkvarg is just a chillbro werewolf.
>>341903706
>And you still talk shit about the gameplay?
Talking shit is the meaning of /v/
>>341934031
>i dont understand how you can call it a good game despite the fact that the gameplay is bad. this is what I mean about casualization.
That's because you're autistic, and you can't appreciate that a thing is the sum of its parts.
Your proposition is equivalent to saying you don't see how the Mona Lisa could be considered a good painting because it has a shitty frame.
A game is entertainment, like movies, books, and films. Get it through your head.
>>341931126
hurr he has a different opinion, fuck off!!!! XDD
>>341934181
Yeah but they modelled real medieval wheat and tons of shitty village you'll never bother remembering
>>341905603
I guess it would blow your mind Ciri's first sexual encounter in the books was homosexual, Philipa is homosexual, so are many others.
This may blow your mind, but many straight men cross dress. Gender is not the same as your sexual orientation. Hobbies aren't reflective of your gender either. Why give girl straight tomboys a pass and metro straight boys not?
The reason I brought this up is because if you fucking talked to the character, you'd find out the character is as straight as a 2-by-4, straighter than Dandelion.
I loved how Witcher treated it's homosexual and female characters so much better than Bioware and never used it as a marketing ploy.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
they're good yes
>world feels rich and alive
it seems that way at a first glance, but as soon as you attempt to focus on any one element of the game you notice how empty and dead everything feels. All of the NPCs are literally just pieces of cardboard outside of cut-scenes.
>memorable sidequests and main story
Kinda. The illusion of choices being meaningful makes it hard to be immersed in anything. I'd rather just watch a mini-series desu.
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
No. The combat is completely shit and completely lacks depth. Nobody plays Witcher 3 for the gameplay, though, so it's fine really.
>>341905539
Did you do NG+ Deathmarch in the expansions?
It's like CDPR looked at Dark Souls boss fights and went
>fuck yeah
>waaaa i want to pick up any random garbage and put buckets on npc heads
>>341934974
>making enemies HP sponges and change nothing else
>this somehow makes the game like dark souls
wew lad, ive seen alot of retard, but you top them all.
>>341905603
>tranny-centric DLC
what
>They're pivoting to consolefags
I'm like, 99% sure the enemy upscaling was added because people kept complaining about being way too overleveled.
>>341935246
that's literally dark souls 3 NG+ though.
>>341934974
The boss fights in both expansions are much better than any in the main game, yeah.
>>341935538
unfortunately the boss fights in both expansions still have only 3 moves that they use in the same order for the entire fight
>>341903706
Bloodbornefags are STILL mad that Witcher 3 was GOTY
That's why they shitpost about Witcher 3 all the time
>>341934974
>mfw elffags thought this was Iorveth after the trailer
>>341935523
Its cute how you ignore the fact that dark souls combat is completely different and actually interesting and difficult, which results in increasing HP and dmg on enemies making the game legit harder.
Whereas in W3, making them into sponges changes nothing because the combat is so terrible, that you're just gonna be mashing X for longer.
>>341935956
it's cute you don't notice the hypocrisy in your statement.
It will never stop being funny how /v/ constantly praised Witcher 1 and 2 despite both games have abhorrent combat.
Witcher 3 arguably improves upon both games' combat, but suddenly /v/ hates it with the excuse "it has shit combat".
Uncharted 4 has more gameplay than witcher 3
prove me wrong
>>341931578
There need to be more games with skyclad witches.
>>341923596
>>341924024
Yeah entire expansion is a whole french reference
French song, french movies, french painting and even the grave of jim morrisson
>>341936851
it's a matter of simple mathematics
uncharted 4 is a 15 hour game with 7 hours of cutscenes whereas The Witcher 3 is an on average 150 hour game, with 2 expansions which add on another 40 hours, make it a 190hour game with 12 hours of cutscenes.
