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See this character here.

DON'T FUCKING PICK HIM
>TWO TIMES
>ON KING OF THE HILL MAPS
>ON ATTACK

He is useless and bad and everybody avoids le ebin dragon.

Thank you.
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>>341890247
I mean, you're not wrong. But if you're getting held back my Reinhart / Bastion / Toblerone he's useful for his Q alone.

But yeah, never pick Hanzo ever. Pharah is better in every single regard.
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git gud
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>>341890484
>Pharah is better in every single regard.
Para no shoot through wall, dummy
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>ITT : people who suck at hanzo
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>>341890589
yeah, git gud
by never picking hanzo
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>>341890247
>>ON KING OF THE HILL MAPS
>>ON ATTACK

Redundant, but also wrong. KOTH maps are most definitely defense.
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>>341890959
haha, no.
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If I pay $40 to play a video game I'm entitled to pick Hanzo every match and shoot arrows down hallways until someone gets hit by them.
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>>341890247
It's honest to assume every person that picks Hanzo has this mentality: "Dude it's just a game haha who even cares haha XD I play the way I want! You can't tell me what to do! haha (Larry face)"
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>>341890247
Embarassig to say, but I got rekt today by 3 Hanzo team carrried by a really good Genji today.
Learned everything there is to learn about simple geometry and got hit by 6 dragons at the same time at least twice.
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>>341891815
Nah, those are Tracers and fucking Widowmakers.

99% of them are pure garbage and completely fucking useless.

>but muh waifu!!!!

at least fucking Hanzos can just spam and get free kills.
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fuck you op i play for fun
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>>341891815
That's how everyone should play.
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>>341890959
He works pretty well on KOTH actually.
Enemy converges on the point, so mindlessly spamming it guarantees kills. Most points are enclosed rooms which meens easy SIMPLE GEOMETRY kills. People busy fighting at the clusterfuck are easy targets for his ult too.
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>>341890247
hes pretty shit because majority of players suck. can win games on his own if you know what you are doing. one ult clears objective and you can push uncontested or 6 on 2-3 for easy wins. shame most mercy wont dmg boost you when you say your ult is charged. i have top 500 widowmaker on maste roverwatch, but even i cant make hanzo work in most pugs. think his biggest problem is lack of mobility. he cant wall climb to get to most places and is sitting duck for people that cant aim if they get on him/flank. makes for bad kit for avg player.
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>>341892096
>playing against widowmakers with magnetic aim

Seriously, in the killcam I'll like be a country mile away, and for a tenth of a second pop between two obstacles and she'll move that reticle onto my head like Torb's turret and get the kill.

Most snipers are shit, and once you figure out where they are, it's easy to flank them due to their inherent unawareness, but the good ones are terrifying.
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>lose king of the hill match
>player is now Hanzo (was Reinhardt)
>player is now Genji (was Mercy)
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>>341893903
Maybe if you did more damage.
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>>341890247
Hanzo is good if you're good. Get good.
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Reminder, if you ever won as hanzo it's because you got carried.
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>Literally all I can play other then mercy
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OP's just mad because somebody got POTG for shooting a wall
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every fuckin game theres someone instalocking hanzo or genji

fuck off with this shit
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>>341890247
t b h I'd rather have a shitty hanzo than a useless genji widow or tracer, at least the meme dragon can actually kill shit or break a stalemate
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>>341890247
No, I will keep picking him and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>341890247
When I go Genji I don't really go for kills unless I see a sniper or if I get my ult.

Other than that when you're defending and having like 4 people chase you for a solid 3 minutes it can be really helpful.
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>>341898232
i hate teammates that fuckin chase
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>>341898420
They're fucking retards.

That's what makes it all the better, as soon as they see something they slowly take damage off of they will never stop.

I remember getting chased by like 5 people during KOTH on Nepal during the overtime while most of my team was respawning and we won.
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>>341897186
Why? I just want to play Hanzo atm, what's so bad about it? Not to mention he works on all maps, defense and attack.
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>koth
>d.va complains that our hanzo is useless
>switches to hanzo himself to prove some asinine point
>entire match is everyone on our team except for me standing a mile away from the point trying to snipe nothing
FUN
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>>341890484
I've dodged 9037 dagons trying to consume me as Reinhardt man. I'd say they're generally 33% effective at the most.
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Is scatter-shot a free kill ability? It seems to get me every time.
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>>341890247
>>341890484

That's a shame. I was thinking of getting this game because he seemed cool.
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>>341901334
It rips apart anyone with 200hp or less if shot at their feet.
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>>341901334
If he shoots it in front of your legs, like right in front, every shot will go upwards toward you so yeah against most heroes

it's also super easy to kill tracer/zenyatta with since you dont have to land it perfectly. really annoying when playing zen
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>People who play Hanzo
>AND ONLY HANZO

I will never understand what attracts people so greatly to this character. Are they all filthy weebs?
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>>341902030
People really like spamming arrows vaguely in the direction of the enemy and getting free kills because of how much damage they do.
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>>341901389
He can be very useful if you're not stupid, he's just not optimal most of the time. The main problem is too many shitters see "sniper" and think that means they should just sit back long-range and shoot arrows all game long while doing nothing else.
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is anything more frustrating than dying to a random hanzo arrow?
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I especially like playing junkrat on route 66
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>>341902030
Huntsman was fun as hell in TF2
Hanzo is fun as hell in Overwatch
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>>341902030
Along with Genji he tends to attract a lot of shitters. I don't mind having a Hanzo on my team as long as they do a good job but I think 9 times out of 10 they're complete shit and are just farting about until they can get their ult. Genjis are the same but contribute even less, most of them aren't any use and do nothing until they get their ult and then manage to kill one person with it and then get killed.
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>tfw Hanzo main
>but actually good at him
>pick him on offense
>team shit talks me
>i carry their ass
>and get POTG without even using ult

Eat shit naysayers.

Though I have to admit him and Genji for some reason attract the biggest shitters, like those people that instalock him and won't switch from him no matter what happens or how poorly they're playing.
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Hanzo's hitboxes are ridiculously broken. Either they fix this shit or they nerf his damage.
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>>341902250
>flank hanzo
>he's charging up a shot
>panics as you attack him
>lets loose the arrow randomly in your direction
>your giant head hitbox vacuums it in like a cockhungry whore
>you die instantly
>in the kill cam you see the hanzo still running from you for a second before he realizes he killed you
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>>341902250
Dying to a turret through a pixel sized opening.
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>>341902137
Like 80% of my deaths are him just shooting random arrows at a corner and me deciding to peek at that moment
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>>341902168

I play archer in Monster Hunter and people have literally said the same shit about the bow for years. So, basically he can work as long as you know how to play him right?
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>tfw you accidentally run into an arrow shot by a blind firing hanzo
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>get out of shit mmr
>maybe 1 hanzo every other game
You can tell /v/ is shit at games because of the complaints they make. It's probably the same reason sm4sh is so popular here.
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>Play symmetra on numbani
>THERE's A TRACER EVERY TIME
REEEEEEEEE
STOP KILLING MY TELEPORTER
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>>341902598
It feels like he shot you at the perfect moment, but if you watch the replay either Widowmaker used her ult so he knew you would be coming around, or he shot 10 arrows before that kill and hit fuck all
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>>341902678
>>get out of shit mmr
How do you even tell what mmr you're in?
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>>341902548
things that have never happened
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>Pick Hanzo
>Get gold medals in eliminations and damage
>Some shitter still complains and tells me to switch

How to get immediately reported for harassment.
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>>341902886
You can carry games with Hanzo if you're good, good hanzos are hard to come by but it's not impossible.

Though I imagine you being stuck in shit MMR you've never seen one.
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>>341902168
That's the biggest problem with most Hanzo players. He made for engaging at a more medium range and using his agility to be able to disengage, a full drawn bow does enough damage to make people panic.
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Can you hit with his arrows? Doesn't even have to be headshots, 120dmg bodyshots are fine.

No?

Then fuck off.
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>>341892096
mmmm Zarya cosplay please
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>>341902681
>Play Symmetra
>Zenyatta kills my TP
>No one has touched the point and we're practically spawn-camping the enemy team
I still have no idea how that happened
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>>341902768
You can just judge based on how knowledgeable everyone is, whether they play for objective, whether they actually care about team comp etc. If you ever queue with friends and notice significantly lower quality players, it either means you're significantly better than them.
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>>341902768
>Does my team refuse to have a healer/tank?
>Does my team have 2 or more snipers?
>Does my team pick champions that are not suited for the game mode?

If you answer yes to any of the above on a semi regular basis then you're playing with the shitters
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>payload game
>hanzo shoots ult
>move out of the way, and then back to the payload
>die randomly
I guess the hotbox goes back farther than I thought. Was a bit miffed
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>>341902558
disgusting
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Would this game be better if Hanzo somehow had limited ammo and had to go collect something somewhere occasionally?
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>>341902954
That's the thing though, they're hard to come by. Everytime I see a slot get taken by Hanzo, especially when we're on attack I cringe because it's basically an empty slot. Something about him just attracts far too many shitters. Even bad Widowmakers can still contribute, Hanzos' just seem to fling arrows at chokepoints and die a lot. I just wish the people playing him were worth a shit. Same with Genji players, so many of them are just pure shit.
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>>341902558

He's just that good. Learn to play.
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>>341903202
>Get Okami skin
>Suddenly start getting more kills with my ult

Thanks based blizzard for the change in voice lines.
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>>341902729
It's the latter, he's just shooting random arrows, most of the time they just look at something else right after firing in the kill cam
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>>341903409
Again I'm really good and consistent with him, and I also cringe a lot when I see a random instalock hanzo, 9/10 they're also trash.
But that won't discourage me from playing him and improving even further with him. Also whenever I notice I'm not playing well or being effective with him I just switch, which is something I hardly ever see. What I see with Genjis and Hanzos is some retard instalocks the hero before anyone else makes their pick and doesn't switch no matter what happens.

The most fun part of Hanzo though is shitting on widowmakers with him, I love when a widow thinks she can kill me by outpeeking me but she doesn't know I have a spotter arrow on her ass and I have a shot lined up for her face.
Gets me every time.
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that message that says someone switched to another character
does the other team see it as well?

would it be better if they couldnt see what the opposite team is switching to?
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>He is useless and bad and everybody avoids le ebin dragon

The game has gotten the stage where everybody's ults are easy as fuck to avoid now.

Only decent ones are Torbjorn and the support characters.
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>>341903151
>on high ground
>hanzo shoots ult
>figure I'm safe
>ult hits me from below even though not a single part of the ult shows up above the floor
ok
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>ever since the widow nerf everyone uses that piece of shit zenyatta instead of a mercy or lucio

fuck
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>>341903408
It'd be better if the game didn't reward Hanzo players for not hitting their enemies. His draw pull speed is also hella fast as it is.
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>>341903958
I don't think so but you can bring up the scoreboard to see what everybody's playing anyway
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>Competetive game
>All turnaments need to make their own "make up rules" because the game is not fair by just playing it regularly.
How long until the forced competitive scene dies.
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>>341890247
how do I git gud with this cunt?
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I haven't had too much time to play, I'm only level 31.

But of the dozens of games I've played, practically everyone picks characters that are necessary for team comp. Maybe it's a PC thing, and 12 year old cod kids are ruining it for consoles
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>>341892096

When I play tracer I half gold medals in 2/3. She's fucking insanely good if you're playing against a non-coordinated team.
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>>341902729
>>341903520
Don't forget about their massive fucking hitbox combined with your massive fucking hitbox means any arrow in the vague vicinity of your head means a guaranteed kill.
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>>341904736
Yeah I'm pretty sure there has never been a successful competitive game with a ruleset that deviates from the standard game.
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>>341905184
Tracers hitboxes are considered projectiles, no?
So the hit boxes are larger?

I mean, yeah everything is a projectile. But you know what I mean
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>>341905260
>Melee
>Competitive.
It's literally just a big circlejerk with no more than 20players in the "competitive scene."
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>>341905120
I've had a bit more time to play. Definitely not the case. People just seem to pick whatever they wanna play most of the time. That means you get no tanks and or support maybe 25 - 30% of the time. Sometimes it even works with the extra damage but most of the time you just get shit on
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I pick him because he's fun
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>pick Hanzo every once in a while when he is not instalocked
>do actually really well with him
>worried that people might think I am shitter when I pick him
I play him mostly like intended, on defense but also did a great job on payload maps.
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>>341905538
Are you stupid or are you just a memester? Regardless, I'm not going to waste any more time responding to you.
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>>341904827
The most important things to learn when playing Hanzo are arrow trajectory/speed, prediction of enemy movement and positioning.

You want to learn how fast and what arc your arrows follow with your arrows half and fully charged, so you know where your arrow will go at any distance. When you learn that you have to focus on predicting enemy movement, since arrows are a projectile and the speed varies depending on how charged your bow is predicting enemy movement is very important, you have to lead all your shots. Never aim for the head, always aim for the chest, and you'll have a lot more success than aiming for the head and missing. Also learn to outplay your enemies when they try to move erratically, practice makes perfect.
Last you want to learn good positioning, so you can engage people at medium range (Hanzo's intended range), where you can contest the point and deny people areas of the map with your arrows, as well as not get ganked by heroes like Genji or Winston.

Learn the places where you wanna shoot your spotter arrow to give your team the best information, don't just toss it around randomly every time it goes off cooldown.
For scatter arrows you can aim at someone's feet to get an instakill on almost any character including tanks, learn the angles at which the arrow scatters to kill people around corners and door frames.

His ult is mostly area denial, don't expect to get many kills with it in higher levels, however it can be comboed with stuff like Zarya's ult or Reinhard's ult so coordinate with those to wipe the enemy team if possible. His ult is best used to deny the enemy team areas of the map, it's ideal for overtime tie endings, you get the enemy team off the point and secure the win for your team.

I recommend you watch good players like A_Seagull playing him to get an idea on what a good Hanzo wants to do.

Also remember to climb walls all the time to get in better spots or to juke enemies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URiwaUX9GOs
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>>341905538
evo just broke the record for most registrants ever at 1900 im pretty sure, with 2 weeks left to register it should break 2k easy.
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>>341906151
And 1880 of those people have no chance at being a noteworthy player.
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>>341906151
>Evo
>Black people event
Please.
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>>341905552
What kind of potato bracket are you in? What the fuck.

To me it's 1/20 games that I don't have tank OR support. And I've only played a match without tank and support twice.
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>>341906249
WE
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>>341902030
They keep missing with everyone else
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>Main Mercy
>Usually stick to the tank, or if someone is clearly kicking ass I'll go stick on them
>I NEED HEALING
>I NEED HEALING
>I NEED HEALING
>I NEED HEALING
>It's always some fucking Reaper on the total opposite side of the map completely separated from the team
>The team shitter will cry at me because I'm not patching his booboos when he charges into a crowd as Junkrat
>76 getting up my ass for not healing him despite the fact he has his own heal
>Get POTG once for doing a full team revive
>My entire team is screaming and raging because hurf a durf my totally 1337 360 noscope was so much better than this, I totally hit Q better than you did

And that's why this anon refuses to play without at least two friends with me
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>>341906798
>stick to the tank

Let me guess you constantly heal Reinhardt while he has his shield up?
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>>341906963
Who else are you suppose to heal?
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>>341907101
Anyone that needs it? Why would you heal a reinhardt at full hp with his shield up?
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>>341906963
No actually, when I play with friends I have someone who mains Winston I usually stick to, and when my Reinhardt friend is playing I heal the person hiding behind his shield.

I've been playing healers for years, I know how this shit works.
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>>341907101
Lmao holy shit. How about healing the people who are taking damage and not just having your healing stream constantly on someone who's behind a fucking shield?

>>341907335
Why heal the person behind reins shield? They aren't taking damage right?

I'm not sure why you have a problem healing aggressive dps and those taking damage. That's what it sounds like from your original post.
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>>341906284
You should never, ever under any circumstances play without both a tank and support because you should be grabbing one of those two.
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"Get featured in top plays of the day mutiple times"

"Hanzo Headshots only "

Git Gud . Also learn 2 dragon. Use the walls to your advantage and make sure they're marked beforehand so you fire in the direction of where they're headed next not where they're fucking standing.
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>>341903027

It's not cosplay.
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>>341890247
Hanzo's ricochet shot is basically an instant kill on any tank if you can aim it
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>sonar shit
>people on the enemy team die because theres no counter play to wall hacks

People really underplay his sonar. It's probably the only good thing about his character, and the only counter to enemy ult ambushes
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>>341907583
Jesus faggot you want a copy of my playbook?

I heal whoever needs it when we're in huge gunfights, Mercy's dash jump thing is a godsend. Ruined TF2's medic for me forever. And whoever is behind the shield is usually getting buffed until they get a hit from the enemy Widow.

And my original issue was with the dumb cunt who wanders off alone thinking he's some badass when he's been feeding the entire time.
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>>341907881
I know, I'm just saying she needs to do it
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>>341891815
Well. So what? It is just a game. It is meant for having fun. They arent breaking laws or rules. They are playing the game legitimately. So why aren't they allowed to enjoy it how they want to?
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>>341907747
Those two single games that it happened I just didn't give a fuck cause we were winning anyway.
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I only pick him if it makes sense. He's good for zoning objectives. Rarely play the guy though.

You really should not play genji. Ever.
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>>341907881
bruh jesus christ
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>last few seconds of the matches tick
>enemy team throws everything at the payload that is basically already on the point
>everyone bodyblocks the shit out of it
>overtime goes longer and longer
>get killed
>have to watch the fucking widowmaker/hanzo who stands somewhere in cover, uselessly shooting and hitting nothing, letting the opponent finish

Why not run at the objective and body block it? Our spawn is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. Holy shit this happens so fucking often and it is always one of those two classes. TF2 wasn't that bad with fucking sniper.
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>>341906240
yeah unfortunately it would take 5 years minimum of serious grinding and study + natural talent to break into that level.. that's the definition of TOO competitive imo. also not worth the tendinitis/carpal tunnel.
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>>341908458
>The pantylines on the girl to the left
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>>341908114
>not noticing who is doing well
>not sticking to the 76, Pharra or D.Va who do their job 20x better with you at their side, singelhandedly winning games

There are too many retards in this game. The faster you take note of who is actually playing with half a brain, the bigger your impact in the game gets.

A D.Va that jumps into the backline and actually does damage/gets healer is completely terrifiying.
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>>341906798
>main mercy

stopped reading
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>>341902558
Even for hitscan weapons, hitboxes are way too big. This is to appeal to the casual audience.
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>>341908460
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>>341908996
>This is to appeal to the casual audience.

*Console audience
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>>341892096
>>341907881
>>341909062
Name?
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>>341909062
It's a shame they gave Zarya retarded facial structure. She'd be dick-throbbingly delicious if she had a good face because you KNOW she has a fucking thick body under all that armor.
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>>341908996
this almost feels like a balance problem too, considering you can headshot from a considerable distance with characters like 76, mei, or mccree
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>>341909382
The hit boxes can be a little forgiving but they do need to be reduced at least a bit.

Requesting that quake image that shows it has big hit boxes too.
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>>341909268
Google
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>>341909268
Stefania Ferrario
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>>341908293
Yea you're right. Next time someone goes and plays a team based game I guess it can be justified that they be a complete detriment to their team because they were having "fun". It's selfish.
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hes ok but the problem is weebs instantly choosing him regardless of situation just so they can ult and get a boner. really gives genji and hanzo a bad rep cause of these stupid faggots.
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>>341909337
I can't wait for Blizzard to launch the fanservice skins and everyone starts playing Zarya when they realize she looks like this.
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>>341890247
i'll pick him anyway just to spite you anon
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>>341910145
Hes also a worse widowmaker.
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>>341910439
he's not a sniper

see you're one of those shitty hanzo's
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>>341907881
whoa mama
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>>341903658
>But that won't discourage me from playing him and improving even further with him. Also whenever I notice I'm not playing well or being effective with him I just switch
This alone is the one thing that makes you superior to other Hanzo's. Sometimes I get stubborn and really want to win as a single character and I forget that there's like twenty of the motherfuckers that I can pick. Different heroes are applicable to different situations. Can't tell you how many times I've decided to unfuck my shit and pick another hero only for my k/d to drastically improve.

I reason it like this. On KOTH, right? Say I'm playing Tracer and I go 10-3 on the first map. Say on the second map I'm Tracer and for the entire duration I'm *still* 10-3. Or worse, 11-5. That's grounds for a switch for the next round because I actively contributed *nothing* to the team. I do the same with payload checkpoints on Attack Maps. If I'm not being a relevant pusher as a particular hero then I switch.

Same with on Defense.
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>>341910168
oh my gawd
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>>341910145
Genji gets a terrible rep. I've only seen a small handful of good Genjis, and they are the bane of my existence. It makes me grateful that they're so rare.
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>junkrats bomb does 75 damage when thrown
>after one seccond of arm time it does the original damage
>if junkrat gets a kill while his bomb is on cooldown it refreshes like genji

Fixed junkrat Y/N?
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>>341910168
I want beach vacation Reinhardt
>red baywatch swim trunks
>sunscreen marks on face
>shield is a giant umbrella
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>>341892096
Is there more of this set? I have never found a pink haired woman attractive until this image.
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>>341910168
I'd be grinning with a boner if they did beach skins and whatever, but they'll probably cater to the SJW's and no fanservice.
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>>341910915
pls, i came here to shitpost about overwatch not fap
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>>341910718
People in general are reluctant to switching heroes in the middle of the game for some reason, I knoww I have some "core" heroes I can always fall back to and do really well, heroes like Reaper, McCree, Roadhog, Lucio and Reinhardt.

Like ok you can be a little stubborn and not want to change, but you gotta adapt and in some situations some hero just doesn't work. My favorite heroes are heroes that sometimes don't work and I'm forced to switch. I really love Zarya and Hanzo, but they can't work at all times, especially Zarya relies on her team composition way too much and if you're solo tanking and it's not working it's just better to switch off to Roadhog or Reinhardt.

It doesn't matter which game mode you're playing, you just need to make a good judgement on what works, you may have your "main" or mains meaning the heroes you enjoy the most and generaly are most comofortable with and want to play more but you can still switch and play anything.

I've played all heroes and do decently with them, the only ones I don't ever really play are Symmetra and Torbjorn, even though I acknowledge they're great most of the time someone already picks them so I can just pick something else.

People in general need to learn to adapt to the situation and I think the higher you go in MMR the more you see that, as I've improved I see more versatile players and in general better lineups from both teams.
When I started out though it was all shitty Genjis and Hanzos that would never switch. Sad!
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>>341911325
>blizzard
>no fanservice

Pick one. Blizzard knows where the money's at.
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>>341910915
healthy.
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>>341890247
Play shitty game get shitty results
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What the fuck does Genji even do? I feel like unless there's a turret or a dumb Bastion, I would be strictly better off playing one of the other offense characters.
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>>341890484
>Pharah is better in every single regard.
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM AB---UUUUUUUUGH
Pharah is shit, and people who play her are shitters who can't aim.
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Someone really should get in contact with her about a zarya cosplay
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>>341911757
Pharah just needs ult buffs.

And fixing her E, that thing's hitbox is stupid as fuck.
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>>341911731
Hes a counter pick hero

Which is funny because how many people insta lock him at the start of a game.
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>>341911731
You reflect those my man.
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>be tank
>have 500 health
>die faster then a naked ninja

seriously why is this allowed
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>>341911974
*deflect
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>>341911928
she doesn't need buffs
>splash damage weapon
>arm wrist thingy that moves other people make noobs panic
>ult can wipe a team easily providing they're all in her retarded aoe damage range
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>>341912129
>tanks stand out
>you got BTFO'd by the whole team
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>>341910939
>one second of arm time it does original damage

Yeah, this. If you want maximum damage then his Concussion Mine has to be on a flat surface. If it's in the air then it's strength is reduced. 75 is still a sizable chunk. It's a tremendous utility weapon and having it deal as much damage as his primary fire is fucking stupid--especially considering that Pharah, the only other hero that utilizes explosive weaponry, has a Concussive Blast that does 0 fucking damage. That's just not fair. Junkrat takes off 120 damage with each bomb making him the most spammy hero ever because there's no damage fall off. Splash damage does a whopping 80 fucking damage. Pharah's splash damage fall off is in the range between 13 and 80. Despicable.

I can also see his Steel Trap getting less damage, too. It does 80 and traps enemies for 3 seconds. 80 is a fucking lot of damage. 80+120 from the Concussion Mine is enough to one-shot any 200hp hero. Jesus. .
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>>341911731
Good Genjis can fuck with anyone, be an annoying fuck that doesn't die, and clear important targets with the ult, sometimes the whole team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekXZer3lJbk
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>>341912212
Her ult is legitimately the least damaging and most predictable ult in the game. It's also slow as fuck.

It's D.Va ult tier bad.
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>>341912212
You can also use her concussive blast as an quick emergency escape midflight by shooting it against an adjacent surface i.e. in the sights of a sniper, other Pharah's ult, DRAGON etc
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>>341912559
>consistant reliable damage built on a character that can appear anywhere and when paired with team mates can be impossible to dodge

>d.va ult tier bad
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>>341912798
good tip thanks anon
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>>341906003
tl;dr
spam one spot to get headshots because of broken hitboxes and abuse scatter arrow
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>>341910915
>nipple piercings
hoyl fuck brehs wanking just won't cut it I need this woman to fucking smother me to death with her ass in real life
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>>341912559
>It's D.Va ult tier bad

Not even the fucking SLIGHTEST.

Sure, you can die easily while raining justice, but it's nowhere NEAR how bad d.va's ult is.
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>>341912986
I usually don't go for short hair but this girl gets me going so much, I literally hate my life because I'll never get to motorboat her boobies
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>>341913087

Name one damage ult that does less damage/is slower than Pharah's ult.

I'll wait.

>B-But she can do it from anywhere!!!!

If Pharah kills you with her ult and you weren't at like, 20 health, you're really bad at the game.
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>>341910915
Is that chair simulator still in kickstarter phase? I want to be her comfy surface.
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>Like ok you can be a little stubborn and not want to change, but you gotta adapt and in some situations some hero just doesn't work. My favorite heroes are heroes that sometimes don't work and I'm forced to switch. I really love Zarya and Hanzo, but they can't work at all times, especially Zarya relies on her team composition way too much and if you're solo tanking and it's not working it's just better to switch off to Roadhog or Reinhardt.

Exactly. My go-to Offensive hero is Reaper because he's absolutely braindead and when he's being a sneaky jerk he can cause alot of ass pain. But he needs to be in range. If I can't get there then there are alternative heroes I can select. I can take Reaper to most maps but some team compositions means he isn't going to be as effective. I feel the same when it comes to using a character like Mei or Winston on attack. Winston isn't build for Volskaya Industries. He'll get his shit pushed in right proper. So you have to adapt and swap out.

Can't take Symmetra to Nepal because you can't weave a cohesive web of death. Your contributions are meager and you're better off switching. Some heroes are a plus on literally any map with literally any semblance of team composition [most offensive heroes, Lucio, Mercy, etc.] but holy hell.

>People in general need to learn to adapt to the situation
Man. Sometimes I'll get stubborn. Like I'm in a pub and we'll randomly decide to run a Meme Team. Full Reaper or Soldier 76 or full Reinhardt or what have you. I will continue to play as that character while the rest of my team has logically switched because I autistically insist on keeping up the ruse. It's retarded and I've lost so many games because I insist on keeping up the full Reinhardt push while the other team has, logically, chosen Symmetra, Tracer, 2/3 Bastions and a dedicated Pharah/Junkrat to fuck Reinhardt's shield to pieces. It's ridiculous. Somethings gotta give.
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>There are people on /v/ who say don't pick Tracer for Defense
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>>341890247
Plz
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>>341912559
Poor Pharah gets it rough.
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>>341897186
The only thing that pisses me off is when people don't switch up Hero's to counter the opposing team.
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>>341907101
>Healing the person who isnt damaged
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>>341913491
>sharpshooter

fucking kek
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>>341913301
she can appear behind you, swipe her ult around your entire team and before you even killed her she has now killed three of your team mates.

Pair that with a zarya shield and you have the scariest shit ever.

Infact name an ult that can pick off this many players consistantly. the closest I can think of is tracers pulse bomb, but thats if they all clump together.
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>>341913605
>before you even killed her

Most heroes can turn around and kill her before a single rocket hits them if they're not deaf.

They don't even have to fucking aim, since she's standing still.

Her ult is fucking garbage, and if your team dies to it, they're fucking awful.
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>>341913383
What chair simulator? Can I use her ass as a bed?
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>>341913301
>>341913842
You're supposed to use your ult flanking and near the targets or supported by a zarya/mei ult, it does insane damage if you're close to them, most characters don't have time to react if they're taken by surprise.
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>>341913842
She does 1200 damage per second anon.
If you aren't ready to deal with her instantly she has already killed your team. If shes aware of the enemy location she'll prioritize the people that can deal with her first.

Name an ult better than this besides tracer's ult.
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>>341914308
>1200 damage per second
>Think Tracer's ult is good

Nevermind, you apprently play a different game.
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>>341914202
this
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>>341914463
>hasn't named a better ult yet
>is a shitter that thinks tracers ult is bad
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>>341914885
Not him but Tracers ult kills 1 person most of the time, and often is missed (even the best players miss Tracer's ult a fair bit). on the odd occasion you'll get a triple off a Zarya ult or something but its extremely rare.
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>>341914885
I will.

Zaryas ult
Lucios ult
Mercys ult
Bastions ult
Soldiers ult (sort of debatable maybe)
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>>341902030

I never wanted to pick Hanzo a lot, but I'm better with him than I am Widowmaker.

He's at about 70% winrate for me over 100 or so games.
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>>341915304
>names non damage ults
I'll give you zaryas ult because it's probably the most broken ult team wipe ability. A bastion would rarely be in the position for his ult to work, and 76 has the setup but lacks the hard damage and is required to spend the time flanking the enemy. Pharah though can easilly set it up and can adjust herself for the perfect moment for her ult to work.
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>>341916070
Except out of all the ults I listed pharahs is by far the easiest to shut down.

Why does it matter that some are non damaging? didn't realize that was a requirement

and yes soldier does less damage but the advantage to his is it requires WAY less setup and planning, as does bastions.

I even like genjis ult better than pharahs honestly.
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>play overwatch
>love it
>but I suck
>I wish I could aim

;_; anyone else know this feel?
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>>341906003
recommending seagull instead of Gods aka IM A HANZO MAIN. for shame
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>>341910168
You're gay
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>>341916570
I know that feel. It's why I took to Winston and Symmetra so quick. Don't have to aim that much.

Try raising your horizontal turn speed. That might help you.
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>>341916570
Yes, that's why I stick with Mercy, Lucio and Reinhardt.
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>>341916926
Also Reaper. He's completely braindead and thus right up my alley. Junkrat as well since you can just lob grenades and score 120 damage on full contact and a whopping *80* on splash damage alone. You're bound to kill something. It's insane.
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>>341892096

this is giving me a togelstein
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>>341916570
>play overwatch
>love it
>but I can aim
>most heroes don't heavilly reward besides boring shit like widow or 76
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>>341916570
>tfw I've only gotten PoTG maybe 5 times

rip..
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>>341910168
I'm literally in love
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>>341917162
>76
>boring
u wot
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>>341916570
Play as Reaper. He's braindead as fuck. When you get taken down by anyone outside of 5 feet, you can just ghost away from them and flank them.

Goddamn I hate Reaper. He's not hard to kill, but fighting him is a chore.
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>>341912212
>splash damage weapon

Lol. The splash radius is tiny and the damage is even worse. You have to get direct hits if you want to kill anyone, have fun doing that with her slow as fuck rockets.
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>>341917087
Oh right, forgot about them. I recently tried them both out and did alright. Most groups I end up in no one goes support so I never really had a chance to try anyone else out. Guess I could lock a character in faster but I don't mind being a support anyway.
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Why do his arrows have the hit box of logs?
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>>341890247
>>341890247
>>341890247
every day until you hate it
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>>341917887
Superior nippon arrows
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>>341890247

>not shooting the dragon directly into a wall so nobody can tell where it's coming from until it's too late

git gud

Also all the characters are balanced. Public teams just suck.
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>>341917546
He's the Ryu of the game. Jack of all trades, master of none. He's boring in the respect that he's straight forward with very little nuance.

>>341917789
Her splash damage is between 13 and 80 damage depending on where enemies are standing. Meanwhile Junkrat's is a flat 80 regardless of your positioning. If Pharah was dealing a solid 80 damage she'd be a much higher threat. She wouldn't have to accurate aim to completely fuck your day up. Wish her Concussive Blast dealt some damage. Spacing enemies just isn't enough in my eyes.

>>341917881
I've been chased down in teleport mode and gunned the hell down by Traces, Zero Suit D.Va's, Junkrats other Reapers and Genji's. While it's great to go "fuck this shit I'm out" your travel speed is fucking abysmal. In a perfect world Reaper would move twice as fast but lack the ability to pick up health until he's out of that form.

Hell in a perfect world his teleportation wouldn't glitch out on ledges and fuck you out of flanking.

>>341917908
Think I played with you. I believe you fucked my shit right up. Seen you get your share of POTG's as well. Can't hate the player, gotta hate the game.
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>>341894953

>mfw during the Super Shimada Bros brawl I won on defense with a full Hanzo team

It can be done if people launch their DRAGONS in a single volley.
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>>341910915
holy shit
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>>341910915

>mfw my girlfriend got nipple rings during the first week I dated her

I made her take them out because they are degenerate
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>>341918351
wasn't me, it was a guy I played with

I do recognize your username though
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>>341910915
I would sell everything I own right now to put a baby in her.
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>>341890247
I main him because I need to get good with him. I usually switch between him and Mercy depending on what our team needs and how good our widow is or if it's temple of anubis or not

Pic related, happened about a week ago on Temple with a bunch of scrubs who couldn't dodge the okami
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>>341918632
>seeing her nipples before marriage
Degenerate.
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>play as Zenyatta
>"96% of match on fire"
>couple of people in chat saying "damn dude"
>all the upboats
>mfw
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>>341918351
what is the MOST nuanced hero in your opinion then?
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>>341913491

>won with multi torbjorns on defense

Wow so much skill, I bet you had to build a turret. Are you MLG or something?

Also

>People still don't know D.Va is Defensive Torbjorn's hard counter

Could have been over in a single "NERF THIS"
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>>341917443
play Junkrat
easiest way to get PoTG
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>everybody avoids le ebin dragon.

you're supposed to combo it with a CC ult unless the situation is desperate
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>>341919128
I actually got one as Zenyatta a little while ago without an ult and I never play him even when I go support usually, was surprised.
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>>341918925
and then you wake up
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>consider myself a 76 main
>can't even beat surefour pocket 76

What does it take?
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>>341919518
it's very simple, you just have to __________________git gud
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>Always have a mixture of gold and silver medals
>Lose every game

What do I have to do to win? I don't think gitting gud will work because I'm always apparently the best in my team according to the medals.
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>>341919518
Peak around corners and keep your distance from tanks. Light those sons of bitches up with Helix Rockets. Soldier 70-dicks has 5 more ammo than Bastion and deals 5-17 damage depending on the drop off distance. You can really pour it into an enemy if they're stationary. I like to pepper turrets and harass Bastion's/Tanks from afar. Your rockets deal 120 damage with 80 splash so if you're not confident about hitting your opponent dead on then aim for their feet--there's no getting around that 80 damage.
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>>341919704
>I'm always apparently the best in my team according to the medals.
Man, the medals do not mean you were the most helpful player to completing the objective.
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>>341920102
>Gold on objective time somehow means you weren't the most contributing player to taking objectives

Retards need not reply.
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>>341918925
HOW DO YOU BE GOOD WITH HIM!?

>No movement abilities
>Orbs don't work it not in your line of sight
>Ulti is shit
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>shoot a rocket at a guy with 76
>shoot them in the face a few times so they stop moving to look for you
>they get hit by the rocket and die
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>>341920258
High ground, melt tanks with discord, don't pick him if the enemy team has a shit ton of enemy back liners.
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>>341890247
>Pick Torb on Ilios
>People start shitting on me in chat
>tell them watch the manlet king
>get 43 eliminations and make over 60 armor packs
>have highest damage and objective kills in the game
>people still upset I picked torb
I hate faggots like you
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>>341913416
>Pick Tracer for any defense round
>Flank the enemy team about 10 seconds after they leave the gate
>Constantly harass Hanzos and Widowmakers
>Find Bastions in corners in turret mode and kill them
>Save ults for Roadhog or Toblerone + turrets
>Easier to find teleporters and hidden turrets
>Can deal with Lucio, Zenyatta and Mercy players since they like to stay in the back and heal or apply buffs
>Constantly on fire and usually get one or two 10 kill streaks per game
>Despite all those kills, harassing tanks, distracting turrets and support players or killing Mei and Mcree shitters, I still lose sometimes because of how awful the maps are
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>Someone instapicks Widow
>10 seconds later, last person picks Hanzo
>I'm the only support
>No Tank because the other 3 had to pick Mei, Tobelrone, and McCree
>Half way into us getting our asses kicked, McCree calls them retarded for picking 2 Snipers and tells one of them to switch
>Hanzo switches to Genji
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If I see a person picking Hanzo I just insta avoid him.
>mfw
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>>341920238
He didn't mention that he always got the objective medal. Plus, it's a common correlation, but not a given that gold in objective time means you're the most contributing player. A braindead Reinhardt could stand on the cart all game and not shield his teammates properly. A Lucio dancing around on the point in a KotH map might only be a heal battery and not as effective at his role as another player that strays from the point more often.
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>>341920054
The only matchup that has been giving me problems is CQC Symmetria.
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>>341920429
>Bitches will never know the joy of having a shotgun better then Reaper, a long ranged lob shot that can kill widowmake with easy, and a mini-bastion pet that you can back you up or cover your point.
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>>341920429
Torbjorn isn't "sporting". Though one is fuckin' great the instant a team uses two or more they lose credibility in my eyes and the whole damn match stops being fun. Though props to Torbjorn's that throw up a turret, get it to lvl.2 and then sets about messing around the frontlines
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>>341920807
I just make sure the turret never dies but run up close range because his shot gun melts bitches plus that is where all the scrap is.
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>>341913594
y the fuq would I heal other baddies? it obvs tank is the best and the rest dontn't deserve healings
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>>341920792
As Symmetra I find Soldier 70-dicks is one of the easiest Offensive heroes to take out next to Genji. The S76 is always occupied with other enemies and will almost always move out of his healing circle while Symmetra is on top of him. Her gun does so much damage the longer it's concentrated on an enemy and it will bleed him dry. Sprinting away from her is pretty key since her range is fucking SHIT. As long as you're backpedaling away you can pepper her dumb ass--especially since the Symmetra player will likely pursue you. If they go too far without having anything to duck behind then they're open season. Jumping like a spastic retard won't save them from your sights.

>>341920961
The shotgun is an underestimated motherfucker.
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>>341901389
He's a pretty solid pick on control point maps (not KotH) thanks to the detection arrow, showing your whole team where the enemies are gathering before an attack can save you.
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>>341920429
You should learn how to play an actual useful character like poo in loo.

She has one of the best situational ults in the game, and if you aren't retarded and know a good place to put your teleporter, it can really keep faggots off of objectives.
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>It's a everyone is an offense hero while playing defense except for one shitty hanzo episode
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>>341921183
>learn how to play an actual useful character like poo in loo

>wait for ult meter to fill up
>put down teleporter
Congratulations, you're a master at playing Symmetra.
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>>341921106
Genji, How come? I see him either dashing away or outdpsing you before you reach lvl 3 on the photon gun.
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>>341921183
>Poo in the loo
>better then fucking torb
Nah son why the teleporter is very handy hand molten core turns both you and your turret into a team slaugthering beings. On top of giving 75 armor witch you will have plenty of scrap to make while in the front lines. As for his gun it is 140 no damage fall off M1 and then a fucking shot gun that melts tanks for it's m2.
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>>341911787
Why is her nipple pink
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>>341902558
>Overwatch
>""""skill""""

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>341920774
>Mfw the avoid doesn't work and resets every time you restart the game
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>hating torb

i regularly pick him on attack.
>people underestimate his m1
>los widow and lob attacks at her
>put turret on payload while i run around being aggressive

almost always top damage while supplying loads of armor
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>>341921408
Because the Genji's I've played will either be waiting for their dash to come back or won't double jump to get away. It's the stupidest thing. Either they'll waste their time attempting to deflect energy or--I don't know. I chalk it up to bad players. Genji is squishy but he has tools for getting out of bullshit--and tools for dealing with a bunny hopping Symmetra.

Though if a turret laser or two is on him and he can't dash out and Symmetra adds her beam to the mix he's as good as dead. Her turrets slow your movement considerably. It's like being hit with Mei's primary fire. But yeah--the overwhelming majority of Genji players I've faced I've been able to take down without doing much. That gun just bleeds him dry.
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Why is Hanzo so popular? It is the MAD SKILLZ crowd that like him so much?
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