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>Current Skyrim players
37,941

>Current Witcher 3 players
29,010

>People would still rather be playing Skyrim than Witcher 3

According to /v/, a bad game like Skyrim should have lost its appeal a long time ago. How come that isn't actually the case, and can someone explain this phenomenon? But more importantly, how come Witcher 3 doesn't have as good mod tools as Skyrim?

All this and Witcher 3 has an expansion pack out
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>>341870871
I think this is the more appropriate picture.
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whats with all this witcher shitposting theres like 5 threads
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>>341870871
>game with a thriving modding community versus side quest bloat: the game
Hmmmm
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>ever playing The Witcher 3 on Steam
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>>341870871
Because skyrim has more fun gameplay, more content, and a fuck ton of mods. Witcher just has a better variety of enemies and depth to choices. People tend to prefer gameplay in a video game despite what Neo /v/ seems to think.
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>>341870871

Mod tools.

That is the simple reason behind the metrics. Good, or even just easily usable mod tools can keep games going on for far longer than you would initially think. This has been the case with every Beth game since Morrowind. I mean, I get that you are pretty salty that F4 wasn't GOTY, but Witchershitposting is still pretty 2015 fampai.
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>>341870871
>using a platform infested with DRM to play a DRM-free game
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>people would rather be playing a game where they can mod the fuck out of it and be a little girl getting gang raped by the entire village

GEE I WONDER WHY THEY'RE STILL PLAYING SKYRIM
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>>341871186
the new zelda game copied the witcher, so nintendo fans have just learned that the witcher exists and are now swarming to attack it like a wasp colony
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>>341870871
Because there's 30.000 pedophiles out there who want to fuck their virtual 10-year old waifu every day, it's as simple as that
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>>341870871
Difference is that Skyrim actually has amazing gameplay whereas Witcher 3 is only popular because it was heavily marketed as a video game novel. Once you read witcher 3 through it once, you'll never want to come back while Skyrim has unlimited replayability due to the depths of the gameplay.
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>>341871186

It died down during E3

Than Sonyggers started making Zelda shitpost threads

That started comparissons between Witcher 3 and Zelda

That started the shitposters about Witcher 3

Now we have this thread
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>>341871819
Filtered
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>>341871795

Don't kid yourself. Skyrim was so widely hated here when it came out that you might as well say that /v/ collectively hates it, and be absolutely correct in your assesment. Anime tiddies notwithstanding the base game offers nada.
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>>341871186
The autist forgot to take his pills.
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To answer OP:

1. Skyrim sold more copies overall, because its older and was on sale for 5 bucks like 8 times
2. Skyrim has an active ( autistic ) modding scene , in other words they are playing a Skyrim now thats maybe 10% original Bethesda content and 40% futanari and 50% new content
3. The Witcher 3 sold a truckload of Pc copies on GoG, more units were sold on GoG than on Steam
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>>341870871
>Nobody whatsoever bought it on gog
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>>341870871
>implying people are playing and not just debugging mods
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>>341872195
Shut the fuck up tripfag

>>341872204
>muh gog
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These people on this thread are the same ones that scream to mods when someone say "sonygger"
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>>341872316
Not an argument.
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>>341872204
>>341872195
>THE GOG MEME
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>>341870871
I don't really care about the witcher but how the fuck does Skyrim still have so many players? Mods can't fix everything, I hardly reached 100 hours. I know about all the sex mods but I doubt 40k people are starting the game to jerk off at any given time
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If Skyrim is so good, why is there not a Skyrim 2 coming out?
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>>341872409
Not an argument
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>>341870871
Skyrim has enjoyable gameplay, a good loot system and rewarding exploration.

Witcher 3 has none of those, and once you finish the story there is zero incentive to play anymore.
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>>341872316
>>341872450
>>341871962

All the same
ID's would be awesome chinese m00t if you can hear my pray
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>>341872472
Not an argument?
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>>341872316
>>341872450
>>341872472

>most people bought the game on GOG
>1 year + of obsessive shitposting and still no proper counter argument to this
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>>341871494
This, not even going to say Skyrim is a good game but at least the gameplay isnt horseshit which already put it miles ahead of all Witcher games combined.
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>>341870980
Kekarooni
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What should we call this guy, autisticunt? sperglord? cucking?
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>>341872815

A shitposter perhaps? He has done nothing to warrant any special treatment. Anyone can post the same thread multiple times.
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>>341870871
Unlike Skyrim, W3 isnt a steamwork title so you have to add phys copies and GOG to that
And it still have a higher peak than skyrim, shit's impressive

>someone explain this phenomenon?
Healthy mod community keeping it alive
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>>341871186
>whats with all this witcher shitposting theres like 5 threads

Autism.
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>>341871186
The new Zelda is a Witcher ripoff so Nintencucks are going to shitpost from now until the end of time.
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>>341872450
Game was heavily marketed on GOG, because no-DRM and exclusive quest

Sorry, guess reality get in the way of narrative once again
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>>341870871
and what's ds3 at? under 10k yet?
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>>341872669
>tripfag is retarded
Who would've guessed
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Lewd mods are the best reason to play Skyrim in 2016.

Other mods are a decent excuse, just because of the ridiculous amount of customization you have available.
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>>341872537
>Skyrim has enjoyable gameplay, a good loot system and rewarding exploration.
You're right about the Witcher 3 having no incentive to play when you've done the story and sidequests but Skyrim has none of these things
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>>341873043

Well when you are an autistic NEET without any accomplishments in life, you try to find solace in that someone somewhere would remember your oh so original shitposting and thus live forever. When your life goal is to be the top autist on an anonymous video game imageboard you know you should just kill yourself already.
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>>341873159
>implying people care about DRM
>IMPLYING this isn't just a pirates excuse and a neo /v/ meme
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vh5mxm5Jy8 watch this vid
GOG 693,000 at launch
steam + origin 613000 at launch
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>>341870871
well its literally a fucking movie game, I feel bad for pcucks.
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Contrary to what /v/ beliefs. Skyrim is an amazing game that a shitton of people love.
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>>341870871
I play Witcher 3 with GOG Galaxy

Why do you even buy Witcher on steam, when CDPR is literally behind GOG.com?
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GoG

>>341871186
>assblasted Fallout fans
>assblasted Bloodborne fans
>assblasted MGSV fans

take your pick
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>>341871186

Success breeds jealousy.

Shitposters essentially admit both Skyrim and Witcher 3 are better than their favorite games.
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>>341878660

>"Haha Witcher 3 is one of the most successful games ever but its not as successful as the most successful game ever BTFO"

Shitposters are funny, if only Japan could make a game that could be held over Witcher 3 but it can't.
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>>341873920

7/10ths of the people who bought TW3 are on console.
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>>341871494
You would think Witcher 3 would have been latched on by the PC gamers and modded to hell and back. Why has it not gotten the mod attention that Skyrim has had? Because it isn't in 1st person?
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>>341873242
Don't try to reason with him, he's a pony fucker faggot.
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>>341879478

Lack of mod support. CDPR has spent the better part of the last year improving TW3 with community suggestions and creating DLC.

Maybe they will release the RedKit soon, it'd be nice, but its still pretty cool all of the stuff they added to the game that people asked for.
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>>341870871
Because its good? Fucking /v/ has the worst collective shittaste I have ever seen, if you need proof, go check the active threads right now, I bet at least 50% of them are either weebshit, 3ds/vita weebshit and Nintendo crap no one past the age of 14 gives a shit about, the other 40% being Overwatch threads. Why would I care about the opinion of people that buy their games for the single purpose of jacking off to them? You would think they would like Skyrim since you can pretty much mod whatever fetish you have into it, but I seriously doubt the current casual playerbase here knows how to mod anything at all, find it hard to believe that majority of /v/ are pc gamers when theres nintendo threads 24/7.
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>>341879981

>I bet at least 50% of them are either weebshit, 3ds/vita weebshit and Nintendo crap no one past the age of 14 gives a shit about, the other 40% being Overwatch threads.


That weebshit is all terrible too with some of the worst gameplay ever created but these people only play it because they like to jerk off to work out the frustration of being kissless virgins.

Pretty bad. And they call that "high standards"
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>>341875919
What's even the difference? It's not like it changes anything, might as well have it in your preferred library.
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I wonder of the Witcher 3 shitposter is the same dude that shitposted about The Bindings of Isaac for like 3 months straight every single day.

That's some dedicated autism.
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>>341872450
>Payed the preorder 35 euros
>Payde the season pass 25 euros
>Total of 60 euros for all the content ever released
>No DRM
>No internet connection required
>Exclusive content
>I can import my directory files from another pc and install the game by telling GOG where the files are
>No annoying "dude is playing something" pop-up while playing a single player game without having to go offline
>I get e-mails with news about retro games I missed and I can now buy for cheap and play on my PC without owning a shitty 200 years old console
Why are you so butthurt about GOG being good?
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>>341880307
Because it's cheaper, it has Steam integration (so yes, you'll have it in your steam library), it lets you install from any folder if you copied the game from another machine and has lots of great deals for lots of games.
GOG could use some work and polish (kek, Polish) but it actually outclasses Jewsteam in many aspects. If it were more popular a lot of people would buy their games exsclusively there.
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>>341878660
Thats the problem with /v/, they cant fucking understand that a game can be popular and good at the same time, look at the souls series for example, retarded fuckers would say its a shit series and that it died with souls 1, fucking bullshit, I fucking imported the Demons soul korean edition back when it was first released in Japan, if anything the series has gotten better, butbof course, some contrarian retard which probably hasnt even played half of the games shits on it like id he somehow knew more about the game than you, the only reason I still visit this shit board is cause I filter the words Nintendo, Zelda, Overwatch and sony.
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>>341872450
How is this a meme? It's a fact but lol ok w/e floats your shitty boat lad
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>>341879478
>Why has it not gotten the mod attention that Skyrim has had?

Probably because it doesn't need it as much.

Compared to Skyrim where you play it for the first time and immediately think 'this game could be way better if they just changed x,y,z'
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>>341870871
Millions of people tune in to reality tv every single day. In case you weren't aware people have fucking terrible taste. I saw a few people in this game say Skyrim has amazing gameplay. In order to call Skyrim's gameplay amazing you would have to have played only Skyrim and Superman64.
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>>341880479
>Steam is bad meme
Maybe for you americans, wanna know how much I payed for the Witcher 3 back in its initial release? 25$, every expansion cost me around 10$ each, id you are an americuck maybe, but you literally wont find cheaper games anywhere if you live in a thirdworld shihole like me, why do you think theres so many russian players? Their games cost around 15$ or some shit, thats why steam bans people who gift non american copies to other playera.
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Include GOG player numbers if you want me to respond to your shitpost next time.
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I only played a bit of Witcher 1, am I missing out?
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>>341880942
Every Souls game had a major problem after Demon's.
DS1 was good only until the lordvessel. It was rushed afterwards.
DS2 was great, but there were too many bad bosses and the areas and lore were incoherent.
Bloodborne only lets you make 1,2 builds maybe, only one playstyle is available unless you rely on gimmicks and has 0 replay value.
Dark Souls 3 has shit tier online play under every aspect, the PVE relies too much on "2 hits you're dead" and "get stunlocked bitch" memes, making giant dudes in armour a joke to defeat and dogs a nightmare to beware.
It's not about popularity, it's From that fucked up a lot of things.
My personal favourite will forever be DS2 for the amount of choice you had while playing the game, under every aspect, but I can't deny it has major problems that other games in the franchise don't have.
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Thanks guys, finally convinced me to buy the game since it was on sale.
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>>341881228
Maybe if you played it for the first time now but I was pretty immersed when I put it in 2011.
>Skyrim was my first Elder Scrolls game
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>>341881450
Good point, but I live in a second world country (Italy) and still I'd rather use GOG because it's cheaper, so your argument is invalid.
I wasn't even talking shit about steam, I was just saying GOG is good. But steam is a dictatorship filled with illiterate passive aggressive eastern europeans like you, so yes, Steam IS bad.
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>>341881341
>in this game say
Like, npc or what? Its a single player game mongoloid
>amazing gameplay
Bullshit, I like Skyrim, Its by far the most immersive game I have ever played, with FNV and the Stalker series behind it, I would never in my entire life say the gameplay is amazing, shit, I purposly only run archer builds to avoid having to use melee combat, however, most true rpg players can overlook this aspect, shit, if you think Skyrim ganeplay is bad, how did you even stand playing Morrowind or Oblivion?
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>>341881671
How do you like it?
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>>341870871
>I can't play a game that has less players than this other game
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>>341881665
I think it's interesting to see which games people prefer when they explain properly. Clearly builds and choice etc is important to you so you like the game that offers the most of that.

I really liked the gameplay and atmosphere as well as level design so Bloodborne is my favourite and DS2 my least favourite.

I played them as action games with slight rpg flavour.
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>>341881450
>He's Russian
>Probably a rage-filled teenager playing CS:GO 24/7 and wastin his dad's money on steam
>The only 2 words he knows in his mother tongue are "cyka" and "blyat", occasionally "hui"
>Thinks he has a say in any conversation between civilized people
Fuck off this board, faggot
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>>341882097
Its 38 gb and I have rural internet so I'll get back to you on that in about 3 days.
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>>341882053
I meant in this thread sorry. I see people in this thread saying Skyrim has amazing gameplay which is absurd to me.

I played morrowind because it was new at the time and I enjoyed the world. The quests were more interesting than follow the arrow to the draugr cave.

Oblivion was ok I guess.

Skyrim was pretty shiet.
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>>341881450
>Doesn't read a post
>Replies to it missing the point
>Call people americucks without knowing their nationality
>Uses the term "americuck" because he has no fucking money and he's salty
Stop embarassing yourself.
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>>341870871
Witcher 3 = interactive movie
Skyrim= real videogame
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>>341882463
Fine bait, I rate 0/you tried
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>>341870871
mods saved this shitty game
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>>341881731
I feel bad for you man, not because of Skyrim, its a great game, but it will probably be hard for you to get into the previous games in the series.
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>>341882732
CDPR had the opportunity to let mods save their shitty game too, but never took it, unfortunately.
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>>341870871
>not counting GOG

more people buy Witcher 3 on GOG than on Steam
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>>341882463
Calling TW3 an interacting movie is like calling LOK an interactive movie. Or any game that has a meaningful plot an interactive movie.
There's good news for you tho: you can go play Quake 1 with absolutely no clear context or interaction with any characters right now and brag about it on arena shooters threads, so hurry up and fuck off.
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both are meme games but skyrim happens to be a little more engaging, especially with mods
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>>341882829
Both your statements are false. There are good official modding tools for TW3, lots of mods have been made and they can improve your experience with the game.
Also, if TW3 is shitty, then Skyrim is a rock and not a videogame to begin with.
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>>341870871
How about all the DRM free version on gog?
Only retards take it on steam.
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>>341872071
SKyrim is hated here, because it's so popular and replayable, just like overwatch it gets hate for it's success alone.

There's like 500 people on this board, a very tiny shitty, vocal minority.
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>>341871742
fuck off pedo faggot

leave my futa giantess alone
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>>341873354
Skyrim has all of those things, don't let your bias blind fool you.
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>>341882969
>Combat is shit
>Graphics were bad even for 2011 (TW2 looked better and was from 2010)
>No freedom of choice besides "muh shitty character creation with 2 options in it"
>Mods are for literal manchildren who need to man up and ask a woman out instead of jerking off to succubi pixel genitalia
>This nigger calls the game "engaging"
check your shit taste
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>>341883032
Skyrim is hated because it's part of a genre that has been hostage of a shitty studio like Bethesda for way too long. It's good to see games like TW3 having their take on a genre that would otherwise be a collective shitfest of illusion of choice.
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>>341882462
$1500 PC autismo friend, so you tell me.

>>341882227
>Doesnt know how to fucking read
What makes you think im russian? Read the post again moron, if you had put half the effort you did into that shitpost on reading, it would be pretty obvious im not russian since I speak of "their games" in my post.
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>>341883032
>SKyrim is hated here, because it's so popular and replayable
No, I hated it because it's Wasted potential: the game. It's the epitome of mediocre.
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>>341870871
>doesn't understand what mods do for a game
>makes posts anyway
wew
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I'd be hard pressed to find combat worse than skyrim I think. How can you release a game like skyrim in a world where Dark Messiah of Might and Magic 5 years old and feel ok with your work.
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>There are good official modding tools for TW3
>>good
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>>341883356
This.
Everyone played TES and Fallout because they were the only open world RPGS that had a little bit of fun in them, and everyone loves the genre.
When TW3 came out I guess a lot of people were upset it wasn't a fucking Skyrim copycat or some shit, but it's good having an open world RPG with its own mechanics and that actually lets you roleplay in the actual game and not just in your head and with mods.
Skyrim is too much of a glorified shitty D&D campaign with Todd as your dungeon master and not enough of a videogame to be compelling when games like TW series and Deus Ex have great stories and have been on the market for a while.
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>>341870871
>skyrim sex mods
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>implying I bought it on steam
What is GOG?
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Reddit loves Witcher 3.

In case you Polish faggots have been living under rocks.
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>>341870871
By your logic League of Legends is one of the best games ever made.
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>>341870871

Those are PC statistics. PC gamers only play GTAIV and Skyrim, it is known. Maybe GTAV since it got ported.

All the AA games come to console, leaving PC gamers playing the same two games for years and begging for ports. If I was in that situation after spending a cool grand on redundant hardware I'd just kill myself.
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>>341883782

I didn't know that Reddit. That's nice.

You have to go back though even if we agree on this.
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>>341883190
I didn't call it engaging you mong, but compared to the Shitcher it is
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polack shills absolutely BTFO
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>>341883618
It's only harder because TW3 is not a mess of loose files and random content put into a folder.
Skyrim is literally all the assets in the game put in a giant lazy compilation, ready to be replaced and modified. If they made the game like 90% of companies do it would have probably been more scripted and less buggy, but it wouldn't have had that freedom of modding.
Which brings us to the fact that all of the games after Oblivion are just the Oblivion engine with some tweaks, an ENB and replaced files in the directory folder.
Skyrim is so easy to mod because it's a half-arsed game.
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>>341883890

>skyrim and gta v combined don't have 1/7th of the playerbase of two pc exclusive multiplayer games
>all pc does is beg for ports

Skyrim is more of a port from PC than it is to console, anyway. That shit was so broken on PS3 it put TW3's 10FPS PS4 performance to shame.

I imagine way more people played Skyrim on PS3 too, and the rest have similar numbers for top played games except for CoD
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>>341883987
Based on what exactly, you provided no fact, arguments nor proof of your statement, you just said "Skyrim>TW3" and expected people to agree with you based on nothing but "muh shitposting memes"
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>>341884094
Skyrim is so easy to mod because Bethesda know what mods do for them AND released proper mod tools.
Witcher 3's modding is insanely restricted because CDPR never released the goddamn RedKit.
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>>341884362

>Bethesda know what mods do for them AND released proper mod tools.

Well Bethesda has been using a licensed engine for 15 years and never had the god damn respect for their audience to even try to do better despite being a financial giant.

CDPR had the self respect and courtesy to at least try to make their own and with that comes with some understandable difficulty regarding mod tools.

Hopefully this success will give them the capital to not only make meaningful mod support, but also to increase the quality and performance of the engine that they themselves made for their games.
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>>341883890
>PC Gamers only play GTAIV and Skyrim
Have you been living under a rock for the past 5 years?
Because in the meantime
>CS:GO became a meme-game
>LOL and Dota2 became meme-games
>Warframe became the next big F2P game
>TF2 got a shitload of updates and for a time it was really popular again
>Dark Souls became one of the most popular series of all times
>Still plenty of people are playing COD and Battlefield
>Overwatch came out and took over the entire multiplayer scene even before its release
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>>341884362
Must be fucking nice to release a shitty game and let modders make it worth playing for you.
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>>341884334
Based on the fact that Skyrim has mods and Witcher doesn't?
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What the fuck did you expect?

The only people still playing Witcher are people that feel obligated to collect gwent cards. The idiot's Magic.
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From what I've heard about witcher 3 anons keep saying gameplay it's mediocre with the best vidya story ever told. I'm guessing everyone finished the story and wasn't left with much.
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>>341884779
>The Witcher 3 does have mods
>The Witcher 3 mods literally add the only 2 things that could make this game better if you have a certain taste
>Combat system doesn't need much modding because it's not a pile of trash
>Game looks really good even after downgrade, one of the best looking games out there to be frank
>Most of the games in the industry don't have mods, does that put TES and Fallout above all of them? I don't think so, nigger.
>Skyrim with mods is still a lesser game than TW3 vanilla
When you install a Skyrim mod you play with it for 20 minutes, then you're forced to install another mod to suck some fun out of it. How is that engaging? That's delusional and desperate.
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>>341885128
Let's compare them to the educated gentlemen fapping on midget loli porn who are still playing Skyrim then, shall we?
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>>341870980
>censoring anybody's name
Fucking pussy.
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>>341885138
The game is so big and it has quests so well written that playing it twice would make almost no sense unless you really want to.
But a single playthrough could last you a good 400 hours with both DLCs if you want to 100% the game.
The combat isn't exactly mediocre, it's more of a "it's fun to fuck shit up with my swords and signs" on easy mode and "I have to be careful with my passive bonus choices" on hard mode, but it isn't tiring at all and I just love to gut people and saw monsters in half, then burn a guy with a shield and blow him to icy bits with my powers.
You have to consider this game didn't have a monstrous budget and it was done by a company who took 15 years to make the first entry in their series, and they're still trying to make a name for themselves. If CDPR had Bethesda's resources and more years of experience this game would be impossible to top under every aspect. That's why I'm waiting for their future games.
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>>341885128

>goes through facebook clipping anything he sees about witcher 3 to scoff at, like thats normal
>acts like these people hes meticulously stalked for hours are worse than some faggots talking about which cartoon prepubescent girl they'd most like to masturbate to in some shitty JRPG on /v/

Yeah, man. People who like Witcher are just the worst right.
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>>341885449

Well its his own username. You'd see what games he spends his time on if he outted himself.
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>>341872706
I sure hope this is bait
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>>341885820
>>341885314
When will /v/ get this
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>>341886103
No. He's truly a mongoloid.
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>>341885154
>game looks great
Skyrim remaster looks better and will have DX12 compatibity.
>muh gameplay
MSGV and Skyim are better in that regard
>muh story
Who the fuck is autist enough to give a fuck about video game plot?
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>>341870871
Reminder that this dumb as fuck retard has spent over a year all day everyday shitposting about TW3.
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>>341886510
Skyrim does not have good gameplay. End of story. It's two retards hitting each other with foam bats until one drops. Alternately you can crouch 2 feet away from someone and pepper them with arrows while "invisible".
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>>341886697
>gameplay is combat
This is how I know that you are a mouthbreathing retard.
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>>341886510
>Skyrim remaster looks better
The game isn't out yet and it looks worse.
>MGSV and Skyrim are better in that regard
Of course, let's talk about a stealth TPS about tactical espionage and sabotage missions in the desert with a fantasy RPG, sure makes a lot of sense. Also, Skyrim is literally "Get in the enemie's face, tank the damage, drink potion, spam R1", same gameplay as TES Arena, since Bethesda is incapable of making a game with decent combat
>Who the fuck is autist enough to give a fuck about video game plot?
Everyone who played a videogame other than the first Doom and normie cellphone game, my dear nigger.
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>>341885820

Hoowee, that's some nicely grilled butthurt.

I bet you're one of the people in the photo.
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>>341886697
you're thinking of morrowind
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>>341886510
why do people thing shitposting is funny
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>>341870871
More people have seen the Transformers movies than the Godfather films

More people have read the Twilight books than A Confederacy of Dunces


Stay mad, your logic is laughable
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>>341886824
>combat is not gameplay
But it is, nigger.
The game is slow, UI is messy and sucks, it's all easy as pie until you activate the "enemy is a a bullet sponge" mode from the difficulty menu, riding the horse feels like having diarrhea in India, dialogue is managed like shit, magic is all the same, progression system is retarded and I could go on for hours.
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>>341886920

Good taste anon.
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>>341886879
I said hitting with foam bats not missing with foam bats.

>>341886824
What the fuck else does skyrim have? Walking at map markers to kill draugrs. Talking to npcs to be sent to go kill draugrs?

Playing pretend isn't gameplay, if roleplaying isn't supported by the game in some way you cannot consider it gameplay, and Skyrim does absolutely nothing to facilitate roleplaying.
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>>341886879
You never played morrowind.
Morrowing is the same, but you can walk into the stratosphere with a potion and if you attack a crab at lvl 1 all your attacks are a miss.
So he IS talking about Skyrim.
BETHESDA CANNOT MAKE GOOD COMBAT MECHANICS, PERIOD.
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Great, so a watered down game appeals to a wide audience

This game is popular with casual faggots, what is the surprise here? The Witcher is bit more of a niche audience. Skyrim and Fallout 3 are the only RPG I've seen my dude bro friends play
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>>341887494
Everyone I personally know who loves Skyrim plays 1 game or less a year.
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SKYRIM'S TYPICAL QUEST AND EXPLORATION:
>Talk to NPC
>NPC says there are draugrs in a cave on the other side of the map
>You ride your horse who disappears into a tree 5 times until you reach the cave
>20 minutes loading time if on PC with mods or on console to enter a 4x4 meters cave
>The dungeon is like the one you visited an hour ago, and it will be like the one you'll visit the next hour. Same enemies, same enemy placement, same textures and objects placed in the same rooms
>You kill the draugrs by "hitting each other with a stick and chugging healing potions contest" rules or hiding and oneshotting everything
>You kill the boss, who is a draugr with 30% more HP who has one more spell
>You get your generic enchanted axe as a reward
>Go talk to NPC
>NPC wants to marry you\be your companion
>If not, you will never speak with them again, so you kill them a loot their corpse
How can any of you defend this pile of crap?
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>>341887790

You forgot the 20 minute loading time to leave.
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How the fuck does Skyrim have so damn many people still playing it? Explain it to me!
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>>341870871

but only contrarians on /v/ think Skyrim is a bad game. Everyone else thinks it's an amazing game, and will be considered a classic decades from now.
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>>341888147
Mods, and Normies replaying it to get hype for Remastered.
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>>341887790
No it is more like

>talk to NPC
>he/she wants you to fetch X from a dungeon and kill someone
>fast travel to nearest town/place of the dungeon
>walk to dungeon
>kill everything inside
>collect X
>fast travel back to NPC

Rinse and repeat
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>>341888315
As in they are playing it on PC to play it later on consoles and supposedly with better visuals?
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>Want to play the witcher 3
>haven't played Witcher 2 though have it in backlog
>haven't played Witcher 2 because lost Witcher 1 save and want to play Witcher 2 with Witcher 1 choices made
>Witcher 1 is so fucking miserable to play can't force myself to replay it.
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>>341888147
The same way Football Manager has 50k+ players
clueless people with no preferences and giga casuals
also lots and lots of furries/loli lovers
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>>341887790
you haven't played skyrim. it's ok. there are games I haven't played either. I'd tell you which ones, but you'd start assuming things based on which ones I chose to mention.
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>>341887790

You also forgot the

>Surprise! You're now the head of the guild!

at the end.
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>>341888486
Yes, Normies can't into mods unless Uncle Todd puts them on that console's store with a pricetag.
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More people enjoy Adam Sandler films than Bergman films.

I guess Sandler is a better filmmaker than Bergman.

Seriously kill yourself proles.
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>>341871186
It's probably one guy who tries really hard to fish for attention. It's also probably the same guy who spams threads about upcoming games that dislikes the looks of.
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>>341888634
His statement is pretty accurate. He must have missed all the epic roleplaying going on in your head that makes it seem like something it's not.
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>>341887162
But the TES franchise is the best roleplay available as a video game. You can't deny that. And Skyrim is the plateau of that phenomenon. And if you can't do something you really want to do chances are there is a mod for that.

Compare that to Witcher where you have this preset and scripted playthrough where choices don't even matter. I mean fucking eroges have more freedom of choice than witcher outside of potion and fluff that no one cares about.
>>341886849
If you want good stories you either read books or watch movies. Plot in videogames suck dick unless it is something you craft on your own.
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>>341888640
>be a level 1 tard that knows one novice spell
>join wizards guild
>kill some dude
>fetch a book from a bandit dungeon
>kill another dude
>you're now the archmage and the guild leader of the thieves guild and the dark brotherhood simultaneously
beautiful
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>>341888634
>Oh shit he's right
>Better say he hasn't played the game
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>>341889178
>can't argue without showing I'm a mouthbreathing retard
>better shitpost with memes
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Nice meme op. 1/2
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>>341889020
>If you want a story go read a book
Then if you want combat enlist in the army and get killed by a 12 years old sand-nigger babysoldier.
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>>341872182
Autists don't take pills
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>>341889020
Yes I can are you high. Baldur's Gate is good roleplay. Party members and npcs to interact with. Actual decisions to make that can reflect on your character, etc etc.

How the fuck are you supposed to roleplay in a dead world with no decisions to make or npcs to interact with. You companions are basically just robots.

If the game world doesn't support roleplaying and it's all in your head you might as well just play with legos. BG supports your roleplaying.

It also sucks you right out of it if you're some magic hating barbarian and you get made the fucking archmage for no reason.
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forgot pic
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>>341889559
continue this embarassment?
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>le epic Skyrim sucks meme
Gee, something popular is hated by the community of this site, what were the odds?

Off yourselves.
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>>341889020
>Plot in videogames suck dick unless it is something you craft on your own.
You either have shit taste or you've only played Skyrim and that's it.
What about Deus Ex? KOTOR2? Splinter Cell? Metal Gear Solid? Heavy Rain? System Shock? Even Halo 1 has a good plot. Don't forget TW3, the game you are shitposting about and didn't even play.
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>>341870871
INFINITE

QUESTS

YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A LIE, DREAMBOY? NOPE. SKYRIM HAS INFINITE REPLAY VALUE!
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>>341889686

>haha witcher 3 is one of the most successful games ever but not THE most successful games ever LOL owned fag embarrassing
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>>341889694
Yeah dood transformers is the best movie skyrim is the best game and nikki manaj is the best singer. If you disagree you're just contrarian, everyone else agrees with me.
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>>341889432
I didn't tell you to write a book or imagine it in your thick head. Videogames aren't the """"""""""meduim"""""""""""" for imaginative stories because literally all the decisions in worthwhile games are made by a committee not by someone creative.
I mean even the greatest videogame creators laugh at videogame plot.
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>>341870871
Its nit /v/'s fault there are so many reddit fags in this world
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>implying the only Skyrim players left aren't just fapping to sex mods
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>>341889868
>go to X
>collect/steal/kill Y
>return to Z and collect reward

I sure do love doing these "infinite" quests.
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>>341889945
Dude, literally 99% of popular games (or anime, or movies, or TV series) are looked down on here.
You can't deny this place is full of hipsters.
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>>341889945
>this popular thing is bad
>why?
>because it's popular
>that doesn't make sense-
>oh, so I guess everything that's popular is good then, that's what you're saying???

False dilemma. Stop baiting
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>>341889837
The only game that I didn't play from your list is Kotor. All of these games had B-tier movie plot. I mean come on MSG and Splinter Cell are known for the so retarded it is laughable plot. The last 3 SC games I just rushed through just to get my fix without cutscenes.
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>>341890238
People have given you plenty of reasons why skyrim is bad. You're choosing to ignore them and post player numbers instead.

>>341890212
Probably is, but I don't think Skyrim is being hated on for that reason. Witcher 3 is wildly popular and people here like it. Darksouls is really popular and people here like it.

Maybe, just maybe, skyrim is shallow trash.
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>>341886552
He is still there and spams his shitty OC whenever someone says something positive about GOG.

That guy has fucking autism.
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>>341870871
Comaring the two games is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. Skyrim is more akin to Minecraft, than it is to Witcher3, because Skyrim's "gameplay" is to be modding the shit out of it, instead of actually playing it. But you can't mod all the shittiness out of it, so you're never done and keep playing. Witcher's strength is the narrative. Once you're through everything, you're less likely to revisit the same story, even though you may have enjoyed it more while you still haven't seen all the content. Thanks to the lively modding community fiddling with it, Skyrim is always baiting you back in with the promise that the next mod will make it awesome, until you drop it again without even finishing the main quest, Then the next mod comes out and it's rinse and repeat.

tl;dr Modding community is keeping Skyrim alive. If it wasn't moddable, it would be dead in the water by now.
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>>341889926
because skyrim was made for casuals.
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>>341890139
Yes, I love them, too, fellow anonymous. Radiant Quests are truly a next-gen technology, far ahead of their time. I'm so glad I bought Skyrim, now I can't wait for the Special Edition, I've already placed two pre-orders, one to play and one as a collector's edition.
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There's no reason to play Skyrim when Mount and Blade exists.
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>>341870871
Skyrim has better scores, sales, more awards.

WITCHER SHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>341890003
> Videogames aren't the """"""""""meduim"""""""""""" for imaginative stories because literally all the decisions in worthwhile games are made by a committee not by someone creative
CDPR hired people based on creative skills to work on quest design.
Kojima designed MGS1 levels by building them first with Legos.
Halo had such a good lore that they manage to make books out if, and said books are actually good.
Plot is so important in videogames nowadays that even games like TF2 and Overwatch have writers and creatives who create a lore behind the characters.
People who work on character design are often guys who have an art degree and are nothing short of cultured people who take inspiration from painters such as Schiele.
If you take off your horse blinders and stop sniffing your own shit you'll see that you are wrong.
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>>341890439
I'm not even the guy posting player numbers and I think Skyrim is a boring game unless you gut it completely and remake it with mods, I just hate when people use the argument you were using and think it makes any sense.
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>>341870871
I played it on GoG as did many others so
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>>341872458
If your wife is so good, why don't you marry your daughter who is an even younger version of your wife and much more corruptible?
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>>341890790
I made plenty of more coherent arguments and they were ignored, so I just shitposted a bit. Not my finest moment but whatever.
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>>341890003
How far is it? Your head, up your own ass, I mean. Have you ever even played a game?
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>>341873506
Wait, you don't care about DRM?
What kind of a cuck are you?
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>>341890914
Both your and his argument make 0 sense.
I suggest you finish high school without failing your english class if you wish to make hyperbolic or metaphorical statements, and that's coming from someone whose mother tongue is completely fucking different.
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>>341890836
because witcher 3 sold 75% to consoles, 25% to pc, 75% of this 25 % was on gog, so it means Witcher 3 sales were liek 5% on steam,
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>>341890914
Because your daughter is half you and fucking yourself is gay. Technically double gay since you're fucking yourself and getting fucked by yourself, but your daughter is only half you so it's 1.5x gay.
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>>341890974
He's basically climbing a mirror trying to escape from how much he's wrong on an internet anon board.
If you read this anon, you can still leave the discussion. Luckily nobody knows who you are here and nobody can label you as a retard irl for the shit you've been saying.
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>>341870980
>peak today
>128 MILLION players

WTICHER 3 BTFO
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>>341891265
>tfw the banter is so good I actually want that autism plagued moron to respond.
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>>341891441

128 million people arent even ON Steam
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>>341870871
here use the new one
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>>341889402
here's that reply you wanted
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>>341891265
>Luckily nobody knows who you are here and nobody can label you as a retard irl for the shit you've been saying
Solid advice, I suggest half of the cancerboys in this thread take it.
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>Skyrim is toaster friendly
>Witcher 3 requires a beast of a machine to run at decent settings and decent framerate
>Skyrim has shitloads of mods
>Witcher 3 is harder to mod
It's pretty easy to see why so many people still play it
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>>341891590
That's the part that tipped you off? I think Sherlock's job is safe.
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>>341891620
see >>341891129
>>341889686
witcher 3 sold 5% overall to steam, 95% to Consoles and GOG
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>>341891620
You have to multiply that 29,452 by 5 to get the number of people playing TW3 on PC.
147260 people. That's more than Dota 2.
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>>341891759
>>341891868
Read the filename next time.
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>>341883435
And that's why so many people are still playing it.

Keep telling yourself that, we both know it isn't true at all.
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>>341891868
>Thread starts saying TW3 is less played than Skyrim
>Thread ends up stating that TW3 is more played than Dota2
Literally wot
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>>341884334
I can roleplay and get immersed in Skyrim
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>>341891621
ty ty. Here a (you) for you too
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>>341870871
>It's a single player game
>With no replay value
>And that's OK
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>>341892270
>I can make up shit in my head and pretend the game is something it's actually not
Well, that just means Skyrim is void of any true content, doesn't it? You're basically playing minecraft in the middle ages.
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>>341892270
>I can get immersed in Skyrim
I can get immersed in The Witcher 3, so what's your point? You actually end up playing dad in that game, and at least for me I had to make a lot of choices that were really personal. In Skyrim I was forced to pretend that it was so.
Also, what kind of immersion can you find in a game that hasn't got anymore hints of its vanilla state because of mods and crashes\glitches every 5 seconds?
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Have it on GOG,
skyrim is overrated
lul
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>>341892337

If you 100% this game and its DLC itll take like 200 hours dude what the fuck do you want?

That said, replaying is pretty satisfying with runewright enchantments, extra mutagens, NG+ and level scaling.
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>>341881228
This.

Skyrim is shit unless you mod it into something that is unrecognisable compared to the vanilla game

Witcher 3 is actually a good game straight off the disc.
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>>341891868
>anything has more players than Dota 2.
LMAO
>>341892410
Minecraft in proper rp servers can provide a proper rp experience even more so than tabletops.
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>>341892270
>I can imagine I'm actually playing an RPG and not a fantasy sandbox, so the game is good
>Oh what is this? An RPG with a fantasy setting? Bah, the stuff I make up in my mind is better than what happens on screen, I better shit on it and go back playing with legos
Kys
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>>341870871
>Getting witcher on steam

I shiggy diggery doo, Cantstandya
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>>341892410
Oh just fuck off. Go play casual shittier RPG's.

If I want to roleplay as a paranoid mage who has gone insane and wears heavy armor I can do that.
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>>341892095
So Popular == Good? Is this what you're saying? You're saying popular things can't be bad? Or that somehow all the people still playing it aren't using mods to try and fix some of its flaws?

Keep telling yourself that, we both know it isn't true at all.
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>>341892674
>you have to chase wild goose for 180 hours to make the purchase worthwhile.
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>>341892758
>Minecraft in proper rp servers can provide a proper rp experience
No, please, I can't read this anymore, my eyes are bleeding. How much juvenile and retarded you have to be to saying something like that?
Do you also hang around minecraft sex servers by chance?
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>>341892883
Good things = good.
Popularity has nothing to do with other qualities.
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>>341892849
That's not roleplaying, it's playing pretend.
If you want to roleplay like that play D&D with some friends, but I guess you have none.
What you describe is literally my fantasies when I'm taking a shit and I'm bored, it's not what the videogame was serviced as.
You're rating videogame based on what you can imagine about it and not about what it is. That's just retarded.
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>>341892945

>you have to make dumbass analogies to justify your retarded opinions

Even if you only do the quests itll take around 100.

I've beaten MGS1 like 10 times and I guarantee that I haven't played over 20 hours of it.
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>>341892951
>sex play online
Please die
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>>341892945
Nobody said that, don't make shit up now.
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>>341893163
>playing minecraft like a manchild
You die first
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>>341893034
Exactly, so people still playing it is completely irrelevant to its quality. Skyrim is a mediocre game with repetitive quests that sometimes make no sense, repetitive enemies, an awful magic system, shallow combat, bugs, etc
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>>341893104
I honestly didn't finish the game. I quit after 40 or so hours. If you want good replay value then play MGS3 on euro extreme.
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>>341893034
You're basing how good a game is based on how many people play it right here >>341892095
You're not basing how good it is on any objective qualities.
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>>341893091
It's creating your own fucking story dumbass.

But I don't need to explain this to you. There is a reason Skyrim has higher ratings and a much better and more active fanbase than games like the Witcher 3 which have no replay value.

Go watch someone like Gopher play fallout and Skyrim. He does exactly what many of us do.
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99% of gaymers don't have good enough pc to run witcher 3, while skyrim can be ran on potato
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>>341893445

You'd be hard pressed to reach 40 hours beating MGS3 4 times anon.

Trust me, I know, I have beaten the fuck out of them repeatedly they are incredibly short.

I have 200 hours in TW3 and I am still having fun doing HoS.
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>>341870871
how can witchercucks even live with themselves
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>>341893308
The same can be said about W3. I mean the best W2 quest were better than the best W3 quests.
>>341893282
>dissing minecraft to integrate into a tibetian cave painting imageboard
Oh im laffin
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>>341893608
You're not as bad as me in MGS. Also I feel that difficulty setting in W3 has no meaning unlike that of proper games.
>>341893454
I'm not the same person. I started with the post saying with saying good games = games.
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>>341893680
>The same can be said about W3
So? I'm talking about Skyrim here, not The Witcher. Glad you agree though
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I bet that no one playing Skyrim is playing the vanilla version, only modded, which is the only reason the game is even playable, it's a mess of a game.

The Witcher 3 is a better game overall with more depth and better story, while it doesn't need mods, it's a limited experience, if it had full mod support I could see it getting as big as modded Skyrim easily.

tl;dr: People are not playing Skyrim, they're playing 999 mods over Skyrim, making it almost a totally different game.
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>>341870871
Skyrim has mods with nearly endless shit to do, Witcher 3 is story-driven and gives you a hell of a ride with actual depth but little reason to go back.

Apples to Oranges
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it's ridiculous how much /v/ overrates the witcher 3
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>>341893680
Minecraft is shitty because make your own fun games are shitty. I'm paying you to make the fun you fucker. When you buy a book they don't just hand you some paper and a pen and say "make yer own story".
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>>341893881

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6KJ9P46ac

I don't get it, MGS is pacman except with Rambo.

You just run around guys its not that hard.

I still like it though.
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>>341894148
the same could be say of any game that /v/ likes, the only reasont to suck the dick of something in here is that to not be popular, now they're hating the souls saga after the third one
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>>341879478
>Why has it not gotten the mod attention that Skyrim has had? Because it isn't in 1st person?
Because the modding tools aren't available. I also remember hearing that it would be hard to mod in things like character customization and different classes and abilities.
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>>341894245
Different strokes for different folks. Open canvas games can be engaging for me. Minecraft and Just Cause 3 are some of my faves.
>>341894049
I'll assure you that if W3 had proper mod support people would be modding the fuck out of the boring ass game to have more rp experience.
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