NX news in this fall/spring, and it's 100% dedicated to it.
http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/ceo-of-nintendo-canada-nx-news-this-fall/
>>341844000
>the NX is going to be a handheld Wii U
I really don't doubt it. I think Nintendo is exiting consoles entirely and making a handheld that can wirelessly broadcast to a hub plugged into the TV. Basically a Wii U where the console hardware is inside the pad itself.It will probably be a huge dud but you all are going to get overly excited about it anyway.
Please nintendo.
No hardware gimmick.
Also make it useful for something other than games, then at least if it's a nogames it can make itself useful and this is a good way to bolster early adoption
>>341844396
Or it's a PC add-on that broadcast to a hub plugged into the TV. Basically a Wii U where the console hardware is already yours. 3rd parties will love it because it fights piracy.
If you PC is shit, you can opt in for a premade.
>>341844396
>home console
Two words. What do you not understand?
>>341844434
>nintendo
>no hardware gimmick
Snes, gamecube, gb and gba. The only non-memester consoles. Where do you think we are?
>>341844434
>something other than games
Kill yourself.
>>341844434
>implying it won't be a handheld that connects to the tv that has wiiu and 3ds backwards compatibility
>implying you won't be able to use it to control your tv like a remote
>>341844434
>Also make it useful for something other than games,
like what
consoles haven't been useful to me for things other than games since the PS1/PS2 were music/movie players
>>341844000
pls just make a phone with physical controls and put your games on it Nintendo everyone wants this.
jesus Christ
>>341844000
Could you guys imagen if it played all games from gba up and it broadcasted 4k to tv, and was fully portable. my lawd. and has the graphics of ps4 or higher.
>>341845121
A console that can only be used for games is dead in the water in this day and age.
Release games are never enough and a very expensive investment but if no one buys the no game console no one will make games for it and it dies but stuff like DVD and bluray playback carried the ps2 and ps4.
>>341845208
I dunno, i'm not a marketer, there still isn't a console that can play files off a usb semi reliably but i don't think there's enough of a market in that.
>>341844396
That's basically just the PSTV thing they came out with for the Vita. This will be the death of Nintendo.
>>341845091
What? Are you forgetting the Gamecube's lunchbox handle because Nintendo wanted you to carry the damn thing across the neighborhood to your friend's house?
>>341845404
*ps2 and ps3.
>>341845175
>implying you won't be able to use it to control your tv like a remote
but the gamepad already does this
Please PLEASE make it have a matte minish and not the glossy shit you always give us.
>>341844000
>another touch-screen controller
Will they ever learn
>>341845272
>everyone wants this
>>341845404
Both the Xbox one and ps4 play the vast majority of video files, all audio files and any image file. Fuckin ps4 can even open psd files. What do you want?
>>341845553
Touch screen a best. DS touch screen was the best thing to happen to controls since KB+M. The problem with the Wii U was having to look back and forth between two distant screens.
>>341845442
that didn't affect the gaems
>nintendo of canada
Such thing even exists?
>>341845574
>he doesn't want to get rid of the shitty controls problems phones have
>>341845442
We still did that nigga
Different age
>>341845724
>Touch screen a best.
Yeah, I love imprecise input reading and fingers/pens getting in the way of the screen, as well.
>>341845630
I have a ps4 and it cant even play half my MP4s let alone mkvs
I want it to work with everything like MPC, VLC or hell, even MX player on android can do it.
>>341845769
>he wants his phone to have a handles, buttons and a joystick
Speculations?
I think it will probably beshit
>>341845970
speculation: i'll buy it day 1
reality: i'll forget
>>341845963
>a handles
mobilefags are retards
what if they took notice of laser technology and the next console is a little box that connects to eshop and projects a laser with the option of having a keyboard or a 2 part controller (1 part with a few buttons and the other (projected where you want of course) with a ball style directional thingo) and you can connect it to tablets, pc, or tv and you can plug a controller into it if you like?
it would be around the size of the 3ds
Will the success of this console ease Gladiums persecution complex?
>>341845963
> he doesn't want something like this from Nintendo with Nintendo games on a 1080p screen
>>341846061
speculation: i'll buy it day 1
reality: i'll forget about it until Nintendo unveils it, then i'll buy it day 1
>>341846489
>Nintendo games on a 1080p
ha
also
>2 hours of gameplay
>>341846618
> he doesn't want a bigger battery
these threads are always full of fucking retarded ideas.
>>341844000
Please don't be a protable
Please don't be a protable
Please don't be a protable
Please don't be a protable
P L E A S E
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>>341846429
>caring about that tripfag
Why do console controllers cost a million dollars and they dont even have smartphone tier batteries?
>>341844000
NX reveal confirmed for their annual September event.
I wouldn't mind if instead of actually making a powerhouse console, they just made a portable wii u.
Even more props if it can also play 3DS games.
that would be fuckin rad i'd buy that shit in a heartbeat.
>>341848373
This.
I've actually heard rumours (!) that it'll be more traditional. I really hope this is true.
>>341844000
I just want it to be powerful and inspire people to make good games for it.
The gimmick:it's portable and lightweight
Behold:The GameCube2
If it is a portable then I am buying breath of the wild on wii u and playing with a pro controller. I am sick to death of these gimmick consoles.
>Nintendo NX turns out to be a phone
>Nintendo exits console race
>All games produced are phone apps
>Nintendo wants Wii audience back
>>341848919
>pro controller
why would you even think you'd be able to use that.
the gimmick item in the game is literally an analog to the wii u controller and it's gyroscope is used extensively.
>>341848373
>>341848817
If it's traditional it will fail. Can't compete with the other 2 consoles.
It better be a powerful handheld or no buy.
>>341846618
You do realize the Wii u is 1080p right? Smash 4 runs at 60fps 1080p
>>341849191
since when does 1080p mean 720p?
>>341849162
Good, don't buy it, keep with your paid online social media connected pieces of shit. We have 2 of those, we don't need any more.
We'll buy the fun one.
>>341849327
>We'll buy the fun one.
it will die. Nintendo needs to make money. It won't survive with it's hardcore fans like you. Don't be delusional .
>>341844396
>Basically a Wii U where the console hardware is inside the pad itself
So.... a Vita?
We can assume the reveal direct will be some time between september and november. I wonder when they'll drop it.
>>341846618
>>341849025
You can they confirmed it. I do enjoy the gyro for shooting arrows and such though.
>>341849162
I hope they go bankrupt if it is portable. I know they won't but fuck my ass I won't buy a glorified portable. I wan to play on my TV damn it.
>>341844762
Or it's an OS or a program like Steam or Origin, and the NX Console is essentially the nintendo equivalent of a Steam machine.
>>341849457
try google images next time.
>>341849457
https://mynintendonews.com/2014/09/14/digital-foundry-bayonetta-2-runs-at-720p-but-struggles-to-maintain-60fps-xbox-360-original-is-smoother/
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Mario-Kart-8-Confirmed-Native-720p-60fps-Wii-U-64285.html
>>341849432
The difference is that it's a handheld , and then you dock it and it becomes a powerful console. It sounds really nice and something I would get.
>>341849501
Read the details before you hate on it man, I don't want a gamecube from them, and I don't want a Wii. I want a great modern handheld with no gimmick and a nice console that is portable.
>>341849501
They couldn't have confirmed it because the gyroscope is used for a lot more than just arrows. It's how you use magnesis, it's how you use the physics hammers in the shrine puzzles.
If the pro controller had a gyroscope then maybe but it doesn't so whatever you think you know you're talking about, you don't.
>>341849570
The Wii U can only upload 720p screenshots but Smash was confirmed to be 1080 in its direct.
>>341844396
You couldn't get hardware better than a Wii U into a device small enough to be portable. And the heating issues would make it incredibly uncomfortable.
>>341849395
>hardcore fans like you
I own neither a Wii or a Wii U.
I just want a non-gimmicky normal system without social media, paid mother fucking online "experiences", twitch feeds, motion controls, login systems and hour long updates. It's really quite simple.
Perhaps the console will fail if they do this, but perhaps people are fucking tired of the shit. I am.
>>341849457
Bayo and MK8 are 720p
>>341849570
smash actually is 1080p
>>341849698
http://au.ign.com/articles/2016/06/14/e3-2016-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-will-be-the-asame-experiencea-on-nx
"Elsewhere in the presentation, Aonuma also confirmed that the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild will support the Pro Controller rather than requiring the use of the GamePad."
None of the gyro functions in the gameplay we've seen are things a stick couldn't easily replicate.
>>341849736
>the wii u can only output 720p but the game itself is 1080p u retart
>>341849752
>No login systems
So you don't want to play online or buy games online?
>Hour long updates
So you don't want updates?
>>341849743
>You couldn't get hardware better than a Wii U into a device small enough to be portable.
Phones exceeded the 360 somewhere around late 2014 early 2015 and the Wii U is slower than that.
>>341846063
I was comfy in bed :^(
Is that so wrong :^(
>>341849871
Not in graphics acceleration.
>>341849847
>So you don't want to play online or buy games online?
Nope
>So you don't want updates?
Nah, I prefer they make the game properly the first time.
>>341849871
There are phones out there that output to 4K, they can handle the Wii U.
And, even if that were not the case, the console can just output it's dedicated graphics to a phone as streaming video, this would solve the problem.
>>341849871
Are you stupid? See the power progression from DS to 3DS. Just because phones nowadays are powerful doesn't mean the next Nintendo handheld is going to be powerful.
>>341849991
>Nah, I prefer they make the game properly the first time.
This is just not viable in 2016, especially not from a company like nintendo that has such a tiny workforce as it is. Even Breath of the Wild, their baby, is getting help from an external studio.
>>341849432
Yeah, except I expect it to be a bit bulkier, possibly a little more power hungry. It needs to be powerful enough to run Wii U games, although with advancements in hardware that might not be so improbable for something the size of a 3DS XL or 2DS. It would also need to have some way of interfacing directly with a TV, which the Vita doesn't have (Playstation TV is a separate console rather than a dock for the PS Vita). I think it will either have a dock with an HDMI port that goes straight to the TV and the player can use a wireless controller, but more likely the console would transmit the video signal wirelessly to the dock, which then goes to the TV. It would basically be doing what the Wii U does, except in reverse. It'd more or less be a portable Wii U where all the guts are in the gamepad.
>>341849871
Show me a phone game that can output games that look and perform better than Wii U titles.
The functional output of the hardware is significantly different, and they have shit all graphics acceleration because it's not as important. Also, no one is going to pay the price of a flagship mobile for a console.
>>341849743
Have you seen Nvidia's latest Tegra chips?
Nintendo pisses me off so much.
Who the fuck even is in charge of their PR?
>>341850130
>This is just not viable in 2016
If it's not viable to make products that you sell for full price that are knowingly broken then your business should fail. It'll make room for people who can finish products and sell them.
>>341849991
>Nah, I prefer they make the game properly the first time.
This was incredibly difficult in the NES days. These days it's practically impossible, even with very rigorous QA testing. You're asking the impossible.
>>341850131
A dev Vita unit has HDMI output.
>People seriously thinking you'll get something handheld size with greater power than a Wii U at Nintendo's console price point
High end mobiles can't manage the graphical grunt required and they cost more than twice as much as a Wii U.
>>341850173
>>341849906
>graphics acceleration
Okay now i feel like i'm missing something.
What are you talking about?
>>341850242
They're not KNOWINGLY broken.
>>341849457
I can't tell if this is bait or if you actually used this as an argument.
You realise that the PS3 and Xbox 360 both could run at 1080p and 60fps? The majority of the games did not, but the hardware itself and select games did. Looking up "Wii U resolution" will just tell you the maximum the hardware is capable of outputing, not what it actually runs games at. The majority of Wii U games ran at 720p.
You also realise that article is from before those games came out and we actually knew any of that for certain? And now they are out we know that Bayonetta 2 and Mario Kart 8 both ran at 720p.
If you actually posted this image as an attempt to make a point then I fear for the intelligence of this board and the ability of the people who come here to actually know what they're talking about.
>>341850242
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. If that was the way that games got made these days, nothing would ever get done.
Think about the litany of games right back to the NES era that shipped with horrible bugs, game breaking or otherwise, all over the place.
Guess what? They knew. They shipped it anyway, because the return on the investment wasn't enough to continue to fix the problems.
This is the same situation we are in today, they minimize the highest priority problems the best they can, let it go out into the wild and then when they get a return on investment they can fix it.
You should be thankful that games survived to this digital age where companies can afford to patch a game, you mong.
>>341848817
Didn't they already say that they are going after Wii market again, so it probably has some sort of gimmick
>>341850331
Graphics are handled by a dedicated Graphics Processing Unit, which can handle the equations used in rendering things much faster than a usual CPU.
Phones have shit GPUs. They also have shit cooling, so even if they could cram a good GPU in with the processor, it'd be thermal throttled (slowing down to avoid melting) to hell anyway.
>>341850246
So developing in asm on the 6502 chips was easier?
>>341844396
I think it will be a handheld with an option to plug in to a TV. Nintendo have lost the home console audience but still rule handhelds.
>>341845013
They are just as dedicated to spam "it's a handheld" than journos are paid to say Uncharted is "emotional". At this point I think they believe it's their job and that one day they will get a reward for this.
>>341850504
Not at all. But the scale of games was much smaller, making QA testing to detect bugs a much easier process. Less variables = easier testing.
Modern games are just too fucking big for a bug free release to be feasible.
>>341850525
Handhelds are a dying industry.
>>341850396
>You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. If that was the way that games got made these days, nothing would ever get done.
Source? Proof? And I have no idea what I'm talking about? Wow, it's a miracle all those games that have been released without game breaking bugs and zero updates.
>Think about the litany of games right back to the NES era that shipped with horrible bugs, game breaking or otherwise, all over the place.
Some, sure, are any of those companies with game breaking bugs still around? Maybe, probably not many.
>This is the same situation we are in today, they minimize the highest priority problems the best they can, let it go out into the wild and then when they get a return on investment they can fix it.
All of them eh? eh? I could dismiss this with a "Source?" question but sadly there are tons of them now. It's pretty fucking sick. They got around that by making people buy games that customers even KNEW were broken and IGNORED that it was broke because you can slap an "Early Access" sticker on the tin.
>You should be thankful that games survived to this digital age where companies can afford to patch a game, you mong.
I am, I'd be more thankful if games survived without this bullshit.
>>341845374
:^)
>Traditional console, about as powerful as PS4 and Xbone
>Good F-Zero
>Good Metroid
>Breath of the Wild not being shitty
>Good Xenoblade
IT'S NOT THAT HARD NINTENDO
The NX will be both a mobile device made by Nintendo and a separate add-on for other smartphones with a service for buying digital games.
How can a handheld run the new Zelda?
>>341850552
They are only allowed to (and expected to) be that big because over time people allowed updates and patches to fix the broken shit instead of shunning the companies and forcing companies to make simpler but complete games.
>>341850615
Japanese people prefer handhelds/phones
This causes Nintendo to put all their best games on the handheld, pretty much leaving their home console dead in the water with only a few good exclusives
>>341850457
The GPUs on phones are fine, the development is shit.
Most games are designed with 3 year old hardware in mind and big graphics doesn't have the returns it does on consoles.
Modern combat 5 looks like a shitty vita game even though phones exceeded the vita pretty much immediately after the vita came out.
>>341850921
I wouldn't use powerful to describe Xbone and PS4. Scorpio and Neo are just a confirmation that even they aware how already outdated their hardware is. If they succeed, then flow of console generation will forever change as we know them, or to put it simply, hype between gens will disappear since there will no longer be jumps, just baby steps.
>>341850987
Well I kinda like big games. I'd rather not have everything be on the scale of Megaman 2.
>>341850921
F-Zero, Metroid and Xenoblade won't move much units.
>>341849871
>Phones exceeded the 360 somewhere around late 2014 early 2015
Phones that cost $500 and drain their battery in mere minutes.
>>341851094
I can't think of any (benefit of the doubt, many) "big" game that is (are) better than megaman 2.
>>341844396
That actually sounds pretty good though, Nintendo handhelds have had decent game libraries at worst.
And look at it this way, all the Monster Hunter fags would be pleased that they can play on the big screen and not just being confined to a handheld.
>>341844434
Herro, thenk you for your support, we wirr taek this into consideration.
People who think the NX will be handheld have clearly never tried playing 3D games on their phone for sustained periods of time while watching how fast the battery meter goes down.
Those batteries can barely last an hour while outputting 3D graphics. So logically you'd need a bigger battery, right? Batteries already make up ~40 percent of a phone's internals. You'd get impractically large way too soon.
Shit ain't practical.
>>341850615
Nintendo would rather be king of a rapidly shrinking island than try and put their toes back in the "red ocean." They have always been slow to adapt to their competition, and usually don't react until the industry has already changed dramatically against their favor.
>>341851136
Actually phones just get away with a much higher markup.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/29/estimated-iphone-6s-build-cost-pegged-at-21150-iphone-6s-plus-at-236
Also they drain their battery in like 2-4 hours under max load which is still a problem, but a more solvable one.
>>341851308
NX is a console, or else it wouldn't be able to run the new Zelda.
>>341851308
The 3DS is already pretty much dead. Pokemon will be one last jolt of life. And piracy is already killing new games anyway.
I doubt they'll make another handheld after it.
>>341851136
>>341851301
This.
Battery barely lasts for 1 hour while playing basic mobile games shit. Plus your phone turns into a microwave.
>>341849327
Sssalty sailor. Please tell me you to have a PC at least?
>>341851419
You must have a really shit phone
>>341851385
The only solution is to make bigger batteries. Batteries already take up a fucking ton of space in phones.
>>341851443
Of course, nothing amazing though.
GTX970/i5-6400/16GB/SSD
It does what I need it to do.
>>341849295
It's 1080p, you can check that out.
Of course, most WiiU games are indeed 720p, and pretty much only smash, rayman, MON3, Zelda WW and Zelda TP run at 1080p on the system and only Smash run at 60, the rest being 30ish with drops when too much transparency bullshit onscreen.
>>341851579
Thank god. If you didn't you would be a retard.
>>341850769
> It's pretty fucking sick.
It's the nature of the game industry. Games are expensive, they have to make money, QA is expensive and an undesirable job as it is.
I worked in QA for about a year, one of the games we got put on was at Rockstar North for Lost and damned. Every single issue people complained about when that was released (and it was a lot), was reported and marked as a shippable. Even though GTAIV was a very successful game the budget for this piece of DLC was very little, so despite the fact they liscened our company to do QA testing, the budget for the actual fixes were extremely low.
The reason? DLC wasn't proven at the time, they didn't know if the new protaganist would work, lots of people complained about serious tone, yadda yadda yadda, they'll fix it later.... if enough people bought it.
Now, it's easy to point at Rockstar and say they should have paid until it was all fixed and then put it out, but they had absolutely no garuntee that fans would buy into it, and Take-Two were the ones with their hands on the purse.
tl;dr: it's not the dev's fault usually, it's publishers or execs scared for their jobs. Putting it out and then patching it is for better or worse, safer.
>>341851476
You're not making a phone, you're making a handheld.
You have more room under the buttons you will need to add.
You also don't need to use top tier hardware, in fact i'd advise not to because i hate phone heating problems but for Wii u tier power you wouldn't want to go any slower than a 2015 phone.
I still think that they should've at least released SOMETHING that's running on the NX.
Like maybe they should've had two trailers for the new Zelda game. One running on WiiU and the other one on NX.
>>341851751
You know this thing has to fit in your pocket to be a handheld, right? Those buttons SUBTRACT from the room you're working with, not add to it.
The 3DS XL is the size of a modern phone.
>>341851767
Maybe it's business. If they had showed the two trailers, a lot of the people who are on Wii U wouldn't buy the game since they literally can get the better version within a month of release with the new system.
>>341845442
Oh yeah, I forgot about all the games that required you to pick the console up by the handle and swing it around while you were playing
>>341851418
I think Nintendo is too stubborn to completely give up on handhelds, the same way they're too stubborn to completely give up on consoles, but I think the NX is going to be some weird in-between platform. Sony is almost definitely giving up on handhelds because of the Vita's poor sales, and the 3DS was not nearly as successful as the DS and is pretty much on its way out, albeit with more of a bang.
The future of handheld consoles belongs to China. They got bored of bootlegging gameboys and DSes and now they've moved on to making actual decent quality android handheld consoles, and with the GPD Win on the way we will finally have a Windows-based handheld game console capable of running Steam games at a reasonable price in a 3DS XL-size form factor.
These Chinese handhelds will likely never reach anywhere near the kind of market saturation that the DS and PSP had, but they don't need to. For these smaller Chinese companies, they don't need to sell as many units to be profitable, and they make profit off of each unit sold without needing to provide the games directly. Handhelds may be on their way out as a mainstay of gaming but they will at least continue to exist in some form.
>>341851727
Yes, I know. My points is they do this because they know people will tolerate it and also because they know they can update it. If we remove one or both of these options they'll be forced to fucking make it work.
I want a basic console that is easy as fuck to use. For everything else I have a PC/Bluray/etc.
Glad you're not totally retarded and discussed it clearly with experience as well. But I'm not swayed that this is "how it needs to be", I don't think that's correct. I am a developer but not for video games but either way. We don't make broken services because we know customers will not fucking put up with it, period. We're not a small company either we have literally millions of customers, it's not an excuse.
>>341851418
The 3DS sold nearly 60 million units and millions and millions of games. It's the best selling console this gen, only the PS4 comes anywhere close. The only reason it isn't beating DS sales is because mobile market is encroaching on handheld sales.
Nintendo is guarenteed to make another handheld. Whether or not it'll be part of the NX is up in the air. Anyone who thinks Piracy is killing any new games is a complete retard.
>>341852092
If Nintendo continues to make handhelds, Sony will too. Third parties will always favor Sony anyway
>>341851861
It subtracts about the same amount as a screen does, also the 3ds isn't a good example because they could put a whole other battery in the top screen. You can also get away with making a handheld thicker
Besides the 3ds is the size of a phablet which these days are running 3200 through to 4000mAH batteries, slap that in an iphone and it will run for 5-6 hours.
>>341852228
Not when it comes to handhelds.
See: Monster Hunter.
>>341852227
PS4 came out 3 years after 3DS though and PS4 is at 40 million now.
>>341851861
>The 3DS XL is the size of a modern phone.
I don't think you've ever used a modern phone. They're nowhere near as thick or bulky as a 3DS XL. An iphone 6s or Galaxy makes the XL look like a Game Gear in comparison
>>341852228
They didn't favor the Vita
Sony's handhelds are like Nintendo's consoles. They're fighting an uphill battle with the competitor they're never going to win
>>341852228
I love my Vita and I'd love to think so, but I'm really not so sure of it. Unless they know something I don't that has them convinced that they can wrestle the market back from mobile and convince people to carry a Sony system in their pocket or bag, I don't think Sony will be that intersted.
If Sony makes another handheld, and that's a very big if, they will have to do something about the slow release calandar in the West. The Vita is pretty popular in Japan and never really had a software problem there, but in the west it was very front loaded and it's been just a slow trickle ever since. It's kind of like the Sega Game Gear of this generation-- it's got the hardware and it has good games, but it hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire.
Did you guys know they're gonna call the NX the Gameqube 2? My uncle is friends with Reggie and he told him that. Sounds like a good idea to me.
>>341852227
Rhythm Heaven Megamix is already the most pirated game in 3DS history. It's only getting easier and easier.
>>341852346
MH can just be bought. Tencent bought MH with publishing rights. But third parties favor Sony more even on Vita.
>>341852378
And?
60 is still more than 40. The amount of time is irrelavent. Anyone who thinks the 3DS is "dead" is just kidding themselves. Only thing that will kill it is Nintendo's next handheld which will make the 3DS obsolete.
>>341852462
Really? Fuck nintendo are stupid.
>>341852462
Nintendo is about as likely to make a Gamecube 2 as Sega is to make a Dreamcast 2.
>>341852462
Damn. Nintendo are retarded.
>>341852471
>Rhythm Heaven Megamix is already the most pirated game in 3DS history
[citation fucking needed]
>>341852475
Unless companies like Capcom and Squareenix don't count as third party anymore that simply isn't true. Allso that image looks like it was made straight out of Vitagen.
>>341852007
I never understood why they included that feature in Smash Bros Melee
>>341852538
Aktually, Sega is making the Dreamkast 2, and it's a software emulator that will run on the Gameqube 2 and play all of Sega games for free.
>>341848919
I think the fact that Breath of The Wild doesn't require a gamepad shows that the NX probably does not utilize such a device.
>>341849752
All of the things you describe are optional.
Why do you care so much about them?
Nintendo's online system is fucking atrocious anyway.
Why is Nintendo security so bad that I can start an illegal download from their eShop servers in the amount of time it takes the actual eShop to load?
>>341852471
Piratefags really are delusional if they think pirating is going to kill the 3DS.
It didn't kill the Wii.
It didn't kill the DS.
Hell it made the PSP sell more.
The only people pirating effects is PCfag exclusive indie devs, but who really gives a shit about them
>>341844000
>releasing before end of next Q4
>gonna be news before then
no shit
>>341844000
wait what
>this fall/spring
what the fuck
>>341844396
if ithas mon hun and pokemon on it, itll sell. which means devs will make games for it.
>>341852802
*Moralfags
>>341852642
Yeah, facts are scary. Also check out MH on Vita. Pretty neat features Capcom added.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1eKE1KxrZU
>>341852765
Not him but calling a mandatory paywall for online multiplayer "optional" is disingenous as fuck.
Motion controls are practically mandatory in some games and clearly aren't designed for traditional controls which feel like ass
>>341852765
motion controls aren't optional neither is paid online afaik. I'm pretty sure some system updates are forced by newer games too. So, at this point you're just a fucking idiot.
>>341852802
Piracy may have sold PSPs, but it killed the game market for it. Nobody wants to make a game for a system where the vast majority of people are going to pirate it.
Just don't call it something retarded like Wii Three or some shit like this
>>341852919
"Third parties always favor sony" is not a fact.
Yep, we're definetely dealing with some Vitagen autism here.
>>341852934
>Not him but calling a mandatory paywall for online multiplayer "optional" is disingenous as fuck.
I've been paying for certain online games since Ultima. I don't give a fuck. I play my games primarily on a PC anyway.
>>341852942
>motion controls aren't optional
What? What MS or Sony game forces you into using a motion controller?
>I'm pretty sure some system updates are forced by newer games too.
And? Try running any games off of a version 1.0 instance of Steam.
>>341853053
>comparing MMO subscriptions to online paywalls for ALL online multiplayer games
Disignenous as fuck.
>>341853047
Yes they do. See >>341852475. Also 3DS came out a year before Vita. Call me whatever bro.
>>341853117
I don't play online on my consoles, that being said, I'd pay $50 if it meant choosing between Xbox Live/PSN and that atrocious friend code shit. You act like Nintendo are giving it to you out of the kindness of their heart rather than the fact they've invested virtually nothing into building a real online platform in the first place.
>>341853047
Third parties favor whichever console has sold more units and therefore has the potential for higher software sales. Last gen it was the 360. This gen it is the PS4.
>>341852993
Meanwhile the Vita has less games and less sales than the PSP ever had.
The whole "Piracy killed PSP games" is a fallacy that isn't backed up by fact.
>>341853053
>What? What MS or Sony game forces you into using a motion controller?
So that answers all the nintendo questions
>I've been paying for certain online games since Ultima. I don't give a fuck. I play my games primarily on a PC anyway.
Retracts statement
>And? Try running any games off of a version 1.0 instance of Steam.
Completely misses the whole point
Jsus H christ mate, you're retarded. Please leave. At least the last guy who disagreed with me backed up points with logic and experience.
>>341853013
The problem with the Wii U is that people did eventually figure out that it was a new system, and they still didn't want it. Everyone was moving on to 8th generation consoles and the Wii U was dismissed as being a late HD replacement for the Wii in the 7th gen. It was a rushed and lazy system that just plain was incapable of competing with the much more powerful Xbox One and PS4 hardware. Nintendo was expecting a knife fight and found themselves up against army tanks.
>>341844434
They said like last year that the focus for the future of nintendo is to come up with devices that "improve the quality of life"
That makes me think that it will either have really innovative social features, or it will be something like the Wii/VR to get people moving around when they play vidya
>>341853202
>that being said, I'd pay $50
opinion discarded
>>341853132
Are we counting indie devs as third party? Because if we aren't, that library is cut in half
>>341853237
But it is backed up by fact. Look at when piracy became rampant on PSP, and then look at when the number of titles dropped off. It didn't take long for developers to abandon the platform.
>We're...We're not competing with Sony and Microsoft!
All entertainment competes with each other in a broad sense. This is a fundamental fact of the entertainment market. If games and movies were outlawed tomorrow, fiction sales would skyrocket.
And even if they're not competing in the home console market, they absolutely, 100% are competing in the mobile gaming space.
>>341853202
>I'd pay $50
And they know it, retard.
>>341853360
$50 a year is fucking nothing. It's literally less than the cost of a game.
>>341853287
>>341853360
>"Opinion discarded"
>"retard"
>*Buys amiibos*
lol
>>341853434
I don't buy amiibos though.
The fact that you're willing to pay for console online multiplayer just confirms your opinions are not worth taking seriously.
>>341853434
>*Buys amiibos*
Is this the new Sonygger cop out?
>>341844434
nintendo has already confirmed:
>it's not a normal console
which means it's going to have some new gimmick
>they're not competing at power
which means it's going to have weak hardware
>>341853434
#wrekt
>>341853432
disgusting. a true sheep
>>341853432
>$50 a year is fucking nothing
And nothing is what you recieve in return.
The real question is what is it with nintendo and their hatred for batteries?
The wii u has a battery that would be embarassing in a 4" phone from 2009, it can't even output enough voltage to light up the screen fully and the screen is pathetically small and low res.
And the new 3ds XL has a tiny ass battery that takes 4 hours to charge somehow, batteries twice as big as it from 2013 take 90 minutes to charge and don't even take up much more room.
Why are you doing this to me nintendo? I love you.
Jesus Christ for the love of God just make something simple and non-gimmicky for once.
Imagine the creative minds at Nintendo making fucking VIDEO GAMES again instead of gimmicky wii-mote/touch pad focused bullshit.
We could go back to having fun.
>>341853510
>I don't buy amiibos though.
>*sleeps on a bed made of amiibos*
>>341853525
>they're not competing at power
They never said that. They just said "specs don't matter"
>I love my 3DS and Vita almost as much as my PS2
>Their library and homebrew potential are second to none
>Faggots aren't excited for a potential portable WiiU
>>341853330
But it's not. There's no evidence showing a direct cause and effect relationship between PSP piracy and the drop off of developer support from the platform. At best it's based off assumption from butthurt fanboys who didn't get the localizations they wanted and blame pirates for it.
Remember that the Vita has less support and less sales even though it's a pirate-proof system.
>>341853510
>The fact that you're willing to pay for console online multiplayer just confirms your opinions are not worth taking seriously.
I said if it was a choice between paying for that and having Nintendo's shitty online platform, I'd pay for it.
Fortunately I play any multiplayer games I have on PC, so I don't need to. Not that the steam community is much better than Live kiddies these days to be honest though.
>>341853514
>sonygger
Just sad at this point that you flail about applying fanboy labels to anyone who criticizes your beloved Ninty. I've been playing primarily on PC since the days of P1 166mhz processors. Now go watch your Zelda vids with their draw distance and texture quality worse than 360's Oblivion.
>>341853434
I don't own any amiibos lol. You have nothing, do you? Just walk away, or keep looking retarded, whatever.
Fuck off Gladium.
>>341853432
>$50 a year is fucking nothing.
With that I agree. With everything else, you're an idiot.
>>341844000
give me back six face buttons you fucks goddamn fucking fuck hack frauds
>>341853625
>They just said "specs don't matter"
yeah that's much better
>>341853570
No, I receive the ability to play games with people.
>>341853694
That guy is a pretty hardcore Nintendofag isn't he?
I always wonder what would happen to Nintendo sales if medicine discovered a cure for autism.
>>341853679
>Just sad at this point that you flail about applying fanboy labels
You literally did this 5 seconds ago by accusing someone of buying Amiibos, you fucking hypocrite
>>341853679
>Just sad at this point that you flail about applying fanboy labels to anyone who criticizes your beloved Ninty.
It's a perfectly warranted response to a shitposter flailing about spewing memes like >*buys amiibos* to deflect from paying for online.
>>341853679
spotted: sonypony
>>341853750
An ability that is free on every other platform.
You're paying an online tax. Online paywalls are not a value.
>>341853761
the autists would just refuse to take the pill
>I DONT WANT TO WAKE UUUUUUUP
>>341853658
Vita has no sales because there are no games, and there are no games because there are no sales. It didn't even have a chance for any attempts at piracy to affect anything.
>>341853776
The difference is you actually are a Nintoddler. I'm an idort (even own a wii and a 3DS).
>>341853787
Everyone knows you faggots will eat up whatever Nintendo shits out. Not just Sony fans. Remember 8.8? Remember The Conduit?Remember when you were so starved for Wii games you started hyping things like Deadly Creatures? Remember INNOVASHUN?
Remember when you accused everyone of ripping off Nintendo and Nintendo just went and ripped off every open world game currently out there? You're the worst fanbase on /v/, you even got butthurt when Overwatch came out because it meant you couldn't spam /v/ full of your usual mix of Party Fighting Game 18 and Shitoon: 4 Maps Edition.
It's over for Nintendo.
>>341853132
No they don't. That image only shows there are more releases for the Vita than the 3DS. It does not support the claim that "Third parties always favor sony" as the 3DS recieves plenty of third party support from companies like Capcom, Squeenix and Atlus. It's not like the Wii U which has fuckall third party support.
You're simply wrong. You post like vitagen so I will treat you as such.
>>341853213
We're talking about handhelds, not home consoles. Also the PS3 outsold the 360 by the end of last gen.
>>341853761
He is the hardest Nintendo fanboy on here and constantly shitposts. If you say 1 thing about Nintendo he will straight away attack Sony. He's like on constant red alert ready to damage control Nintendo and attack Sony
>>341853974
>I'm an idort (even own a wii and a 3DS).
falseflagking.png
>>341853974
>complains about applying fanboy labels
>proceeds to go on an autism fueled rant flailing about applying fanboy labels and console war shitposting
Can't make this shit up
>>341853974
So many words, so many sonyponies tears, yet so little of value
>>341853974
Watch them pretend to be PC gamers who just happen to love Nintendo.
Funny, since growing up playing Quake 1 DM, Operation Flashpoint, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex etc, I can never remember any PC gamer rating Nintendo particularly highly. They're kiddy shit.
>>341853854
You're right, a pay wall isn't a value. Thankfully, I get a bunch of games every month for that $50/yr as well between my PS4, PS3, and Vita.
>>341853736
Why?
dual analog made C-button camera control redundant and triggers+bumpers is a more comfortable placement for 4 buttons that you can use at the same time while keeping your thumbs free.
For face buttons you either have to quickly switch with your thumbs or correct your grip sacrificing the triggers and bumpers of one side to get your fingers involved.
Current controllers are basically perfect.
>>341845091
tbf the ds gimmick is pretty awesome but ye 1/4 ain't exactly good going
>>341849809
>output
>screenshots
You knew what he meant.
You're a fucking idiot and I hope a bee stings you in a very painful area.
>>341853974
>The difference is you actually are a Nintoddler.
So much for applying fanboy labels eh?
>>341854071
Do you want me to take a picture of my 3DS and Wii with a timestamp or something?
Are you seriously this paranoid?
>>341854092
Worst fanbase on /v/. Constantly shit on other people's threads and spam the board with useless threads whenever Nintendo announces a new Amiibo.
>>341854094
>Y...You're one of those Sony fans
Just embarrassing at this point mate. Do you lie awake at night mumbling about how the "sonyponies" are coming to get you?
>>341854101
I'm sure thats true.
Whats the name (or lacations of the 2 mines you visit in BG ? Why are you going there?
Just making sure you aren't being a cheeky little cunt ;)
>>341854215
You literally went on an autistic rant over Nintendrones and attacked me for accusations I never made. And now you're calling other people paranoid.
Seek therapy. Being this fanny flustered over video games on the internet can't be healthy for you.
>>341854215
>Constantly shit on other people's threads and spam the board
Yeah, it's not like other fanboys do this at all or anything
>>341854215
Did Reggie not call back your mom after that seafood dinner ?
You seem upset. Almost autismally upset.
>>341854027
Imagine actually being in your 20s and still being a Nintendo fan. Just picture it in your head for a moment.
Now be glad you aren't that person.
- Physical DLC.
- Region locking.
- Overpriced, underpowered consoles.
- Constant censoring of content.
- By far the least frequent and least generous sales of all the major content delivery platforms on PC/Console.
- 5 hour games.
- Absolutely atrocious online platform out of the 1990s, even GameSpy was better.
- Selling half-finished games at full price (Splatoon).
I could go on, but you get the point.
>>341854215
>Constantly shit on other people's threads and spam the board with useless threads whenever Nintendo announces a new Amiibo.
I've never done any of these things
>Are you seriously this paranoid? Do you lie awake at night mumbling about how the "sonyponies" are coming to get you?
The irony.
>>341854101
C'mon, you are being slow. I'm PC and Nintendo, btw ;)
>>341854215
Been watching for a while and I really hope you're just pretty decent at pissing people off and are not in fact serious about all of this. Because if it's the latter, sorry mate, you're really stupid and there is no cure.
If the former, have a drink for me.
>>341854109
Funny how the "free" games they're giving out became shit as soon as PS4 came out and required PS+ for online. Whens the last time Sony gave out anything cool like Rocket League to PS+ subscribers?
>>341854249
>Whats the name (or lacations of the 2 mines you visit in BG ? Why are you going there?
The first game? Nashkel and something else.
The second.... Was that dungeon in the Umber Hills a mine? I can't recall.
>>341854337
>Reggie
It's funny how you guys hero worship a guy who literally shits on Nintendo's fanbase over and over again.
>>341854362
Be careful, he will go on another shitposting rampage, his persecution complex is literally out of control.
>>341854131
you don't need to sacrifice for them if you where do it right its just people don't
Anouma's comments about the tablet makes me hope they're moving away from a tablet.
I almost hope they've made a Wiimote 2.0
The wiimote is actually fun again after playing tons of Dualshock 4 gaming.
Even a shitty game like Metroid Blast on NintendoLand feels fun just shooting things.
>>341854362
>5 hour games
> Selling half-finished games at full price (Splatoon)
>By far the least frequent and least generous sales of all the major content delivery platforms on PC/Console
None of the make sense
>>341853974
>Nintendo just went and ripped off every open world game currently out there?
you had a point till here
jelly much?
>>341854362
>- Physical DLC.
fail at first "argument". It's like you are false flagging to make complainer look brain dead shit eating retarded or something
>>341854468
I like Nintendo but you're right about the Reggie stuff. The guy is an arrogant nigger full of hubris.
>>341853974
>it's ok when *I* do it because reasons
come off it
>tfw I have a Wii U still in the box
>tfw I'll buy an NX
>tfw I don't even like Nintendo outside of Pokémon
I just want them to always be one of the big three. I would be sad if they were gone.
>>341854468
Wow, you are pretty damn bad at this. Guess i did well on choosing a question thats not easy to google. Nashkell is 1st, Cloakwood are the 2nd, where you find yeslick and drown it all.
I guess expecting a retard like you to actually have played a 1998 classic was too much
>>341854568
>don't even like Nintendo outside of Pokémon
Why the fuck are you buying Nintendo home consoles then? Just stick with handhelds you twit
>>341854568
Can I have your Wii U?
>>341854568
>>341854510
I wish they kept the Vita D-Pad on the PS4 controller
>>341854629
>You don't remember all of the names of the dungeons in a game you played nearly two decades ago!
Stop trying to catch me out, I gain nothing but pretending to have played old CRPGs.
By the way, how much did the magical license from the Cowls cost in BG2?
GOTCHA!
>>341854642
But then he will lose all the great console pokemon games such as:
>>341853956
Logically it should have games because developers know you can't pirate on it right? Third parties favor Sony more even on Vita remember?
If piracy = guarenteed no games
then no piracy should = guarenteed games
>>341854642
Just to support them. I have all the 3DS versions too and two 2DS.
>>341854648
If you were my friend irl I probably would give it to you.
>>341854772
5k gold.
>more Nintendo promises
Nah.
>>341854828
Maybe we are friends irl. If not, can I be your friend?
Its very clearly not a handheld, just look at the games confirmed for it. How would u even play just dance on a tiny phone screen and there is now way a ahitty ass phone is going to run the new zelda without shit performance and draining the battery. At best its a console handheld hybrid
I've noticed a lot of girls like Zelda. It's a very casual franchise.
>>341854867
better wait for 2018 and the competition finally showing the first in game demo of this year's E3 amirites
>>341854772
>>341854838 is me. You are an idiot if you think you'll be able to stump me about bg2. Since i actually played it.
>>341854951
Alright, what's the portrait for Cid if you're already using his default portrait for the PC?
>>341854918
They find like attractive af
