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Who's the bigger icon right now?
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>>341823905

Probably Drake at the current time.
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>>341823905
Technically Lara still because of how long she's been a brand, but Drake probably sells more units currently.

So Lara if we're going long term, Drake if you want modern only.
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dude raider never would have happened without the original
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>>341823905
Dude Raider is a bigger icon now in my opinion. Everyone knows triangle tits, but she's not interesting anymore. Microsoft killed whatever hope of Tomb Raider being relevant ever again by making the second game of the reboot an xbone exclusive for a year. She's not even Tomb Raider anymore, I bet she's more known as the chick version of Uncharted now.
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>>341823905
Link.
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everybody knows who lara croft is. even people who don't exclusively play games.

nathan drake on the other hand, is only really known throughout the gaming community.
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Lara died with the reboot. Drake is the bigger "icon".
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>>341823905
Depends on who you ask really. I never played uncharted and know who Nathan Drake is but I'm sure more people know the name Lara Croft
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>>341824168
Indiana Jones?
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Drake is a lara croft rip off

And she's not even original
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>>341823905
we finally get decent Indiana Jones games
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No one plays Uncharted for Drake.

The vast majority of people who play uncharted dont even give a shit about him

He'll be forgotten in game history except as a premier generic action man while Lara Croft will always be remembered and jerked off to
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>>341823905
Literally everyone knows Lara from Tomb Raider, even people who have never touched a video game. Drake is just a generic looking douchebag.
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>>341826690
>Lara Croft will always
nope, millennials probably were jerking to minecraft shit
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Drake because his game just came out
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Who killed more people?
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>>341827085
What's sad is that is probably true according to Pornhub.
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>>341827614
In the PS1 era Lara killed everything, because everything wanted to kill her.

She also killed gods back then as well.
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>>341823905
just curious, what's the lastest game real Lara was in before the new girl replaced her? was it Tomb Raider resurrection ?
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>>341828048
There have been 3 Laras over the course of the Tomb Raider series.

The first was from the first game till Angel of Darkness.

The second one was from just in third games from Legends to Underworld, Anniversary was a remake of the very first game, but was remade to fit in with this version of her.

And now we have the newest more realistic version of her.
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i would say more people recognize lara croft than drake but right now drake is way more popular than lara
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>>341824525
only because of the Angelina Jolie movie. Lara's entire popularity just stemmed from the fact that she was the first sexy female 3D protagonist. In the new games she's still sexy, but nowadays there are many other games with beautiful women so it's not a big deal like it was back in the day.

Not that Drake isn't sexy too. Stupid sexy Nathan
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>>341823905
Lara is the bigger icon, but Uncharted is a more popular franchise currently.
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>>341827614
Lara for sure
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>>341829073
is that picture in-game?

that lighting on his face is incredible
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>>341823905

When will they team up and fuck?
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Lara Croft is still the go-to character for larger than life theatrics and emotional sensitivity in vidya.
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>>341830505
>larger than life theatrics

Not these latest two games.
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Lara. Tomb Raider is more recognizable overall
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I wouldn't say Drake is iconic at all. There's nothing particularly unique or striking about his design. Lara Croft is no longer a video game icon either, since they drastically altered her design to be almost unrecognisable. They're both just average human heroes, like Jason Brody from Far Cry 3, or Lee Everett from The Walking Dead.
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I dunno who's the biggest icon.

But I think we can all agree that Tomb Raider 1, 2 and 3 are better than Uncharted 1, 2 and 3.
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>>341826840
This.
Also new lara>old lara
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>>341828023
Lara killed what was basically a god in the reboot for ps3
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>mfw Uncharted 4 is a better tomb raiding game than the new Tomb Raider reboots
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2,3 was perfect modern indiana jone game

4 was "over dramatic emotional" bullshit.
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>>341823905
did they finally give lara her boobs back?
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>>341823905
Still Lara Croft
Nobody cares about Nathan Drake unless you play in Sony ecosystem.
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>>341823905
I guarantee you more normies know who lara croft is than nathan drake
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>>341831924

Aren't they pretty big in the reboot?
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>>341831993
i actually did some little silly poll for my stat class 2 years ago and result is
>most normies recognized Drake but not new Lala.
>they recognized old Lala model(ps1) but not her name
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>>341832105
no, everything about her is super average now so they don't offend anybody
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>>341824731
it's nothing like Indiana Jones, It's more of a Mission Impossible movie with a James Bond Villian.
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>>341823905
The one they both ripped off.
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>>341832659
Temple of Doom is the worst one.

and see >>341832507
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>>341823905
I still can't believe his real last name is Morgan.

Uncharted: Morgan's fortune

Yeah. I can see why he changed it.
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>>341826840
>>341826690
And yet people know what The Last of Us is.
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>>341832919
They changed it to Drake because they became runaway kids.

Drake's fortune was referring to Sir Francis Drake.

Drake's Deception was referring to Nate.
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>>341833148
Wait, wasn't the plot of the first game kicked off because Nate believed he was Francis Drake's kid and had some secret knowledge of his life after he disappeared from history?

I mean, it was always kind of played as Nathan not really being on the level there, but he was also completely correct about where Drake's shit was, so I figured that was true too.
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>>341824109
yeah. more people have heard of lara croft/tomb raider than literally who/literally what.
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>>341833330
>Francis Drake's kid
Descendant, I mean.
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Drake is generic as fuck. 0 movies too.
Lara got more years and her tits are a cultural icon. 2 movies.

Both are being raped by SJWs though.
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>>341833330
In Uncharted 4, Sam says that "who's to say Sir Francis didn't have heirs" and from then on they changed their names to Drake and promised to find his treasure one day.

Their Mother died searching for it I think.
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>>341833601
Yeah, that makes sense. I sort of realized right after I posted that it would also make sense if Drake's descendants didn't actually still have his surname. Thanks anon.
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>>341833564
2 dogshit movies..
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sonpony here. fucking how is drake more popular? he's on ONE console this gen (i don't mean xbone). is it because people had a PS3 as well? i've never played a single uncharted, gow, or ratchet game
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>Laura Croft is known for big tits
>Pick an actress who removed every single last cell of breast tissue from her body due to terrible genes
>lol we'll just give her prop tits
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>>341836089

was meant for

>>341833805
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>>341823905
Who the fuck is the guy besides Lora?
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>>341836089
You know she did the surgery after the movies right? Years after.
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>>341836531

She got them removed in the 90's, they were props in the movie.
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>>341836879
Might want to do a fact check there friend.
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>>341836089
it don't matter, the movie was bad anyway

the script was dogshit

makes Uncharted's script look like The Godfather.
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>>341837051

>2013

No way, they were huge in the 90's, she must have had a prior reduction unrelated to the cancer.
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>>341832659
When did he have a machete?

I don't remember him with one at all
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>>341837549
The bridge scene where he cut the rope, aka the only good scene in the movie besides the opening dinner fight.
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>>341830373
It's a bullshot, iirc
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>>341832105
They're big for a female with her bodybuild but small when compared to what she used to sport.
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>>341838328
I still want to bury my face in them
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>>341823905
Lara Croft of course, my parents know Lara Croft, every normies know Lara Croft, even someone who never touched a video game know Lara Croft.
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>>341830373
>>341838142

it's in-game graphics, photo mode
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>>341838142
but its not
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>>341832498
(you)
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>>341838809
I hate the new one.

She does have that Angelina Jolie face, she doesn't have massive tities. And she always acts weak as fuck but somehow shes supposed to be STRONK.

Lara Croft the old one was like Neo from the matrix. Just pure cool and sex.

The new ones are like some shitty white/asian mix with no boobs, no cool and very little sex.
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>>341840505
I mean she doesn't.
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>>341840307
>>341840387
>photo mode
Yeah, not exactly in-game
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>>341827164
>stupid sexy nathan
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>>341840595
that "recent" tomb raider pic is a shit example of new lara
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>>341840505
The Tomb Raider-series failed when they built the entire game up around a character story, which the games never needed.
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>>341840702
photo mode doesn't affect the lighting

this one was not taken in photo mode; it's from a cutscene that was rendered in-engine at 30fps
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>>341827085
Thats sad man...
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>>341840307
Nate almost looks real here

the dynamic lighting when using torches, flares, flashlights and lighters is the best looking part of U4's graphics IMO
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>>341840702
way do people think this
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>>341841479
Uncharted 2 was a very influential game, it proved a video game could have a entertaining story that's also pretty good.

I like the new Tomb Raiders but they are a bit too dark if I'm beign honest.

Uncharted is very lighthearted so I don't know why they went dark when copying UC.
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>>341840702
it literally is
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>>341840709
What the fuck is this cutscene? I don't remember it.
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>>341843756
Next you tell me the cutscenes are not prerendered.
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>>341843951
not a cutscene, just walking up to an npc in the marketplace area and zooming in with photo mode
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>>341832659
I would love if they actually made a really good Indiana Jones game before Harrison gets too old and quits acting for good. A new game being a sequel to the movies would have been better than Crystal Skull.
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>>341844025
http://gamerant.com/uncharted-4-seamless-real-time-cutscenes-110/
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>>341844354
>he thinks the cutscenes are ingame graphics
Cute.
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>>341844197
Indy 5 is being made right now by Disney

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462764/
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>>341841479
Probably

We never question Lara's badassedness in TR1-5 because it's demonstrated. It never needs attention drawn to it because it's nothing to do with the game.

New TR is about Lara first and the plot second.
I can picture them all sat around a table asking
>How can we make Lara a total badass?
And they focused on her character instead of her actions.
Classic Lara takes on an entire mob and guns them all down in cold blood to get her hands on a dagger artifact, and she didn't need to repeat "I can do this" every 12 seconds to herself.
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>>341844443
>“We’re actually doing real-time cutscenes in Uncharted 4, which is a new step for us. You’re not going to see those black bars that we used to have in between gameplay and cutscenes. That’s going to let us be so much more expressive and really get that seamlessness between the storytelling and the gameplay. Which we already do very well, but it’s going to allow us to take it to that next level.

>“That super great-looking Nathan Drake that’s in the cutscenes–that’s going to be the guy you have the whole time. The lighting model is nearly identical. All of that emotion you get across in the cutscenes, you’ll have in gameplay all the time.”
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>>341841479
>>341844487
why would you want a shitty Mary Sue main character?
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>>341844547
Compare the cutscene fire with the ingame fire for example.
Should be obvious for fags like you.
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>>341844609
>>>/tv/
if you're serious, I'll tell you why
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>>341844679
Burden of proof is on you friend.
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>>341844547
>The lighting model is *nearly* identical
They do scale down the poly counts, shaders, and other things a bit in gameplay from cutscene. If you watch closely at the end of certain cutscenes you can actually see it fade from the cutscene stuff to the in-game stuff.
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>>341844942
I don't have screenshots where you can see the fire
But it definitely didnt look like that.
http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/349/3494045/2912108-2320125555-Color.gif
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>>341845051
All i got was he multiplayer fie but no it does not.
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>>341845008
I don't care about irrelevant details when I'm shooting people.

You were still factually wrong, those were not pre-rendered cutscenes like 1-3.
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>>341844802
Games these days should have compelling characters and a decent story alongside the gameplay, it's no longer 2002.

Anything else is just lazy.
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>>341845313
>>You were still factually wrong,
Not the same guy
But to clarify there are a few prerendered cutscenes. Most of them aren't though.
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>>341845413
Yes, but a majority are in-game.

You can tell by switching the gameplay render modes, the cutscenes use those render modes. Why would they rerender a cutscenes into like 7 or 8 different video files just to accommodate the diverse render modes?
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>>341845398
I don't believe in just injecting something into a game because you can.
That's what you do for the third sequel when you've nothing new to offer.

TR can stand without a protag backstory.
If they made a telltales TR game, fair enough.
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>>341845398

Funny you say that, because when people refer to Lara they most certainly mean the titty monster from 96, and not the "compelling writing" one.

Games are no longer about icons because they are not allowed to have larger than life character. Last one was Kratos and look at what they did to him. There was Master Chief and they made him cry because a buttfugly saggy tits AI turned on him.
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>>341845641
It's what the market wants these days, you can't really get away with just gameplay anymore, it's considered barebones, just look at Nintendo.

Plus, Lara's backstory and characterization had a lot of thought put into it and was handled with the right amount of care. People really seem to like it with the last 2 games.
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>>341845870

TR2 bombed and faded away, the series is dead now, for good.
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>>341845870
I know what you mean.
So many games do it now that it would be odd to not include it.
We like to joke about games becoming too cinematic, too movie-like but it's become a staple now.

Of course once in a while, a game will come along and shake up the formula and remind us why we still play them.
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>>341845996
that's not the games fault
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>>341832659
...Who then proceeded to rip off Tomb Raider later on. So it's all fair.
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>>341843359
>Qt raider
>Has no ass, tits, curves
>Has a butter face
>Constantly relies on others
>Not the brightest
K
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Why aren't people posting more tomb tits?
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>>341845398
>Compelling characters
>Decent story
>Good gameplay
Classics all had that. Might want to rephrase that too "games these days need to be Cinematic Experience shooty-shooty bullshit that makes sure my ADHD is taken care of. Oh and don't make games too hard XD!"
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Neither. Both are highly irrelevant.
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>>341845996
the name is still just too big to let it rot, they will probably try again with something different

it's not the first time TR dies
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>play nu-raider
>bored after a few hours and never go back

>play uncharted
>bored after a few hours and never go back

i am not about this hand holding plays itself gameplay at all
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>>341846330
Because the current "Lara" a.k.a the only one the underage faggots on /v/ are aware of, has none.
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>>341823905
>Lara's gone from being a sexy, smart and badass adventuress to being a stupid kid who keeps hitting her face on stone cliffs and iron rods, and doesn't even know ancient Greek.

Why
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>>341833050
literally who

TLOS has no standing in pop culture at large. Lara was a pop icon. You'd know if you had been around in the 90s
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>>341846907
they also removed the butler and the mansion
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>>341846907
Not to mention they made her smaller, shrunk her tits and ass, and made her less curvy. AND THE GAME HAS IT'S OWN TUMBLER. I think that says everything about who their trying to aim the game towards now.
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>implying tanned Lara from TR2 wasn't the best
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>>341845398
>Games these days should have [...]
Source: your ass
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>>341823905
did you see how spectacularly the last Tomb Raider game bombed?
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>>341847134
That was covered under "sexy."

The best part about the remake is that the new Lara Croft is really incompetent (by video game standards obviously)
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>>341847202
Literally no one plays it anymore, and it only came out under half a year ago.
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>>341823905
People know Laura Craft from the movies. Nobody knows who Nathan Drake is.
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>>341847404
>Literally no one plays it anymore
Why would they? It is a single player game.
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I like Lara's butt, so her.
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>>341847545
>I only play games once!
You wouldn't be if you were playing good games anon.
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>>341847661
Kill yourself retard.
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>>341847635
She has literally zero ass and you have shit taste.
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>>341847709
Not until you start playing good games anon.
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>>341847798
Ebic

Go ahead and show us a AAA single player game that still has loads of people playing it 6 months after release.
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>>341847545
>>341847709
The problem here is that games that get released are Cinematic Experience trash, basically a somewhat interactive movie. Watching a movie once is understandable. But if you ever bothered playing games that were released before 2000 or so, or whenever the >make games into movies shit started to happen, you might get surprised at how much you want to replay them.
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>>341847891
Skyrim

Also Rise of the Tomb Raider has MP like the first game
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>>341823905
lara was in way more influentual games and has the better anus.
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>>341847742
You're mean, anon!
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>>341847891
>It needs to be a AAA release for completely arbitrary reasons I'm pulling out of my ass to justify myself
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>>341848086
>Liking a girl's ass
>When she has none
>Liking a girl's ass when her tits are the main attraction
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>>341847981
>The problem here is that games that get released are Cinematic Experience trash
There is no problem you dumb shit, people don't continue to play single player games once they have finished them.
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>>341848270
Actually they do, if they enjoyed it. I've played every single Tomb Raider game multipled times - at least three in the case of TR13 - and have played all of my other games at least twice as well. Because I enjoyed them. The fact that you treat games as a one time throwaway experience saddens me, and makes me pretty angry that publishers release games that promote this thinking style.
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>>341823905
Well Lara certainly has bigger icons, if you know what I mean!
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Uncharted the Tomb Raider rip-off
Tomb Raider the Indiana Jones rip-off
Indiana Jones the Tintin rip-off
where does it end?
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>>341848456
You are retard.

Show me one single, singleplayer game that had a large amount of people playing it 6 months after release. Shit like Skyrim does not count because that is kept alive by the modding scene.

http://steamcharts.com/
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>>341833148
What exactly was Drake's deception, anyway? I played that game and I don't remember him really deceiving anyone.
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>>341848831
Well would you look at pic related, it's a single player game people are still playing! What?
Also as >>341848030 pointed out Rise of the Tomb Raider also has MP modes, so you're points are moot anyway, since the game can be classed as multiplayer and thus should still be having people playing according to your logic.
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>>341844487
Did you miss the part about the reboot being new Lara's first adventure?
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Here's the pic.
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>>341823905
Literally plated only 2 Tomb Raider games, but Lara is a bigger icon. No one even knows of fucking Drake besides actual gamers.
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>>341823905
Both games are irrelevant interactive movie garbage
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>>341849117
>Tomb Raider game
>Suddenly becomes a third person shooter
>Treats tombs and raiding, the shit in it's title, as optional filler side content
>It's just a reboot guys! XDXDXD
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>tfw there hasn't been a real tomb raider game in years
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>>341849357
Classic Tomb Raider was never interactive movie bullshit, it's literally the fucking retards over at Crystal that have turned the series into that.
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>>341843359
UNCANNY VALLEY
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>>341849187
>that add on
How can you not be embarrassed by this kind of shit?
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>>341849114
Why do you pathetic assholes have to be dumb fucks arguing for the sake if arguig?

People do not continue to play single player games 6 months after release, it is a fucking fact.

You can keep pulling your shit out of your ass to try and argue otherwise but all you are doing is being a fucking twat.

People play single player games, finish them and the move on to playing the next single player game.
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>>341849507
Because it's funny as hell? And the extension triggered a lot of people of the SJW type, so I wanted to show my support.
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>>341849459
nope
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>>341849521
>it is a fucking fact
Oh shit I must have somehow entered a parallel universe! Someone help me, I need to get home!
>People play single player games, finish them and the move on to playing the next single player game
Yeah if you're a dumb shit millenial playing the latest AAA crap.
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>>341849521
>People play single player games, finish them and the move on to playing the next single player game
It's okay Crystal, maybe you're next game will sell better and be more popular ;^)
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>>341843359
Seriously, when is this shit coming out for PS4? Might as well just buy the fucking 360 version by now.
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>No SFM porn of new Lara being impregnated by another human

why live
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>>341849843
>human
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>>341849680
Why do you continue to post shit?

People do not continue to play single player games 6 months after release. People might come back to them every now and then but people do not continue to play them.

The only people that continue to play single player games are poorfags who can't afford to buy another game to play.

You can keep trying to argue all you want, you are just a dumb motherfucking twat and you know it.
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>>341845870
Look at doom. That doesn't have deep characterization. It focuses on gameplay and it's doing great.
I'm not gonna be like Carmack and say games shouldn't have any story, but it shouldn't be all about the story either. When you make a game all about story you lose what made it great. New tomb raider and God of War for example.
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>>341849772
It's not worth it bro. Wait for it to go on sale for a few bucks first.
>>341849843
No one likes her except for you, and shills. Not that I'm saying you're one.
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kinda sums up sony threads

literally who cares

seriously why would you care. neither one is particularly relevant to anything except ps owners.

whos the bigger icon of gaming? neither.
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Neither
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Lara Croft from the old TR games.

Nobody remembers Nathan Drake. He's the same guy as in every game and Hollywood movie. Lara Croft is recognizable and unique.
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>>341849910
Enjoy your summer elsewhere faggot ;^)
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>>341850068
>Lara Croft is recognizable and unique
>bimbo slut or crying baby
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Lara Croft's tits meme gets finally killed when pic related got role of Lara.
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>>341850068
>Lara Croft is recognizable and unique
Crystal seems pretty hell bent on changing that though. At the rate their shrinking Lara's assets and making her look more generic, a few games from now she'll look like some random average high school girl who hasn't gone through puberty yet.
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>>341850257
>mfw the movie bombs
>mfw the last Tomb Raider game bombed
>mfw at this rate Square is going to fire Crystal and sell the IP to another developer
>mfw literally any other developer would be more competent at making an actual Tomb Raider then Crystal has tried
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>>341850068
>Nobody remembers Nathan Drake
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>>341850595
Who?
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>>341850595
Lara is up there with Mario
Compared to these, Nathan Drake is a nobody
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>>341850068
>western protagonists.jpg
Naked Snake isn't western
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Nathan Drake will be forgotten after this gen if there are no more Uncharted games. Idk why they have slated the Uncharted movie for 2025. NO ONE will remember or care about Uncharted by then.
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>>341850956
it will be in time for the reboot
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>>341850501
I liked 2013 Tomb Raider game. It brought something new to series and reboot was in place. It was actually quite satisfying to have dual pistols at the end and it gave that "I want moar!" feeling. Too bad they decided to fuck shit up with sequel.

I have no idea what upcoming movie is about but choosing Alicia Vikander as Lara is weird. It's like putting Jesse Eisenberg role of He-Man.

They are lost with this brand.
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>>341850956
>they have slated the Uncharted movie for 2025
Jesus christ, what's the point of even telling people about shit that far away. Fucking Marvel hasn't even made their plans public beyond, what, 3-4 years?
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>>341850956
>slated the Uncharted movie for 2025
Source?
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>>341823905
Drake, i'm sure. He's attached to Naughty Dog and those guys are the big meme in the business right now with The Last of Us still being thrown up to anyone who'll listen.
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