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I'm mad.
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I was always proud when I go back to the games after months/years of not playing and I can still remember the type advantages off the top of my head. No more
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>>341771114
why? Your win ratio is only high because you win against kids that don't know their type chart?
If your build is shit, it won't help you to know nothing works.
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Just makes the game a little more accessible for more people nothing wrong with that

More importantly
What end game content are we getting?
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>>341771265
Talk about low life standard. I bet you have a food instagram.
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>>341771114
>being mad about a feature that only helps shitters and doesn't affect anything else
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>>341771317
the artificial island in the middle of the area is probably a battle chateau sort of thing.
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WHAT THE FUCK PICROSS DS GREYS OUT SOLVED NUMBERS INSTEAD OF LETTING ME KEEP TRACK OF IT MYSELF? FUCKING CASUALIZATION

THIS GAME USED TO MAKE ME FEEL SMART BUT NO MORE, FUCKING NINTENDO AND THEIR CASUAL BULLSHIT
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>>341771265
Thats an incredibly sad thing to be proud about. Someone with half a brain could remember type advantages.
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>>341771476
Why do you think shitters need or deserve help?
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My Twitch stream fucked up around the rival battle and came back halfway through the free for all demonstration, so I didn't get to see this until it was on Youtube. This is just fucking embarrassing. Pokemon is literally designed to be accessible by children. I really don't want to believe today's kids don't understand the concept of fire burning grass, grass feeding on water, and water putting out fire
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There is literally no point in playing the game if it tells you what moves are effective.
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>autists mad their autistic memory isn't useful anymore
I had a friend like this and he was the biggest autist I ever met >>341771265
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I don't mind showing type effectiveness in real time but this looks a little cluttered, especially with that yellow colour.
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>>341771114
Its a game make for children, what did you expect?
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>>341771401
>>341771612
>thatsmypoint
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>casualizing a casual game is bad!

I bet you talk shit about smogon and/or competitive Pokémon in general, being forever stuck in that pretentious retarded state, where you're too old to be challenged by ingame, but too shit to man up and play competitively.
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>>341771643
>oh fuck a steelix
>so, uh.. metal conducts electricity!
>no, that's not it
>water rusts metal?
>fuck that isn't it either
>Kenshiro once punched the shit out of a tank?
>yep, that's the ticket

>oh, a sneasel
>uh
>uh
>uh
>fighting and bug?
>yeah, fuck off

It's not the basic shit that trips people up.
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>use move
>doesn't work
>use another

Wow, HARD.
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It's incredibly easy to remember the typing in this game. If any of you seriously think that it is autistic to remember what, like 20 something types then you need to visit a hospital. I have no idea why /v/ loves making everything so casual these days. Kids are getting no fucking challenge from anything anymore and it's not a good look at all. Anyone who disagrees is just fucking wrong or spoiled.
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>>341771114
You're retarded.
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>>341771114

>You've played pokemon so long you remember every types strength and weakness
>You're mad only because you've been deprived of the moments where you're trying to determine a new Pokemons type through trail and error or capturing it.

Nostolgia fags are the worst
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>>341771114
Fuck off. As someone who had a hard time memorizing the Gen 5 & 6 typings, I found myself looking up the Pokémon I was fighting against on Serebii constantly.
Practical features are not a bad addition. In fact, there's now a section in the battle menu that shows you the stat changes of each Pokémon in play, and that's fucking great because players don't have to write them down anymore.
Besides, as a game targeted for children that haven't learned the multiplication tables yet, they should have added a feature like this ages ago.
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>>341771613

Because that's the primary audience of kiddy games like Pokemon.
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>>>/vp/
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>>341771114
I hope this can be turned off. Then it would be win/win for both autists and children
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>>341772206
I was 8 when I played Blue and 10 when I played Gold. I did fine. My friends did fine.
Now actually answer the question: WHY do kids need help with Pokemon? Kids aren't getting stupider, just nobody actually makes them learn anything anymore.
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>>341771970
>oh, a sneasel
>Kamen Rider kicks evil's shit in
>I guess bug will work!
>It does
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This is a good change. It used to be simple enough to guess what type a pokemon was, but it has gotten worse and worse, not to mention dual types making remembering every single fucking pokemons weakness a pain.
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>>341772189
>You're mad only because you've been deprived of the moments where you're trying to determine a new Pokemons type through trail and error or capturing it.
Not even that since the first time you meet a pokemon it doesn't show how effective moves are.
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This only comes up after you've fought against that pokemon before, thought I should mention that since nobody here actually watched the stream and just got mad at this picture.
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It gets more and more pathetic to play Pokemon with every gen. You get older while the games become easier and more child friendly. Just stop right now. Start being a little less pathetic.

At this point the Pokemon games play itself. You just press the button once in a while.
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who fucking cares? all this does is remove the need to memorize or have a chart, its not like this shit is a secret
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Why should you be mad? I wasn't mad when Super Mystery Dungeon highlighted type advantages.
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>>341772538
Exactly how does this make it any better?

>see new pokemon
>try to guess its type
>attack non-effective
>next battle, I magically know all its weaknesses
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>>341772447

Because kids are dumb.
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>>341771114
>still caring about Pokémon
>still caring about Nintendo
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Other games have been doing this for a long time. You fight an enemy once and every fight afterwards show you the weaknesses and strengths. Why are you people getting buttmad over this now..?
Is Pokemon the only fucking RPG you faggots play?
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>>341772519

Then why is he upset?
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>>341771114
Good, my little cousin can enjoy the game now.
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>>341772873
Is that how it works though. I figured it would do like the million other rpgs and just save the info on what type of attack are how effective against each enemy.
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>>341772467
I laughed, I wish I'd thought of that

>>341772890
>When I was a kid I wasn't dumb enough to not be able to play Pokemon
>Kids today aren't any dumber
>Why do you think kids need help?
>"Because kids are dumb."
Wow, fuck off.
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>>341771671
>I was just pretending
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>>341772873
I think the idea is that your character uses the PokeDex or something? Once you encounter a new Pokemon, it is registered in your PokeDex, something that was made to recognise and categorise everything you encounter, so you don't have to keep it all in your head.
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At this point it's more pathetic and embarassing to play Pokemon games than fapping to the furry porn of the series.
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>>341772934
I think the much more obvious answer is they are not that stupid and its just shit posting.
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So am I. A water/fairy type? Fucking awful.
Fuck off back to /vp/.
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>>341772873

You could look up pokemon by type since gen 2 and there was a weakness chart included with the game in gen 1.
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>>341772447
>It's a "In le old times we did stuff in harders ways, even if it was about something annoying and irrelevant, and that somehow implies we are more resilient than today's kidz hurr durr" episode.
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What's wrong with knowing an enemy's weakness?
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What Pokemon would you marry and impregnate?
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>tfw type effectiveness indicators, exp share and an escort Rotom will allow the devs to give experienced players a more challenging game or let them roam around the world more freely
>mfw the game is full of piss-easy battles and endless gating despite all these things

The thing about crutches is they allow you to make the basic game harder, but you just KNOW GF will miss this point and put in more gates than Rock Lee.
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You're autistic.
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>being mad over a design element implemented in a game for children
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>>341772934
There's more depth to other RPGs. Picking the correct move is literally the only part of Pokemon that requires the player to find 2 brain cells and rub them together for a second. The game is practically on auto-pilot now
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>>341771114
this is some next level autisming shit, op
how can this bother you?
it took them 20 years to let you USE THE POKEDEX WHILE FIGHTING
ash did that in like the 2nd episode of the anime in 1996
it should have been there since the first game
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>>341771716
""""""""""competetive""""""""""""" pokemon

lmao
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>>341771114
GF just wants to cater to the Chinese audience who will have Sun Moon as their first game

Can you blame them?
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>>341771114
>not mentioning that it only shows up after you have fought that specific Pokémon once
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>>341773443

You're acting like looking up the typing and weaknesses, which you could do in game, took a third brain cell. That's not a decision making or intelligence, that's just tedium.
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>>341771114
What's bad about this? Sure it sucks if you have an esoteric typing like Grass/Rock or Bug/Rock but you shouldn't be relying on your opponent being stupid.
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>playing Pokemon with 20+
>you play pokemon since the very first game and continue to do so every generation
>all your former friends dropped Pokemon after the first or second gen in their childhood while you kept playing them
>not only do you continue to play a super simple baby JRPG to this day but you even enjoy to play rehash after rehash
I can't imagine another game series that is more embarassing to play as an adult.
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>>341773371
People buying pokemon for the "base game" are retarded anyway. Pokemon will never be a challenging rpg with good AI, since even though a large portion of it's market are college autists Nintendo will treat each game as if they introducing pokemon to a new generation of kids.

The only appeal to the games is "competitive" which in of itself is an immense brand of autism but it's the only satisfaction people can get out these otherwise piss easy games when they're adults rather than back when they were a kid and were entertained by the simplistic mechanics.
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Every RPG with an enemy analysis system does this, so why is it a problem when Pokemon does it?
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>>341773825
From all games to play competetively you pick Pokemon. How pathetic can a human being get?
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>>341774004

Are you illiterate?
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>>341773941
Every other RPG is at least 10 times deeper and more complex than Pokemon to begin with.
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>>341774004
Show me a game with competitive multiplayer that plays like pokemon and I'll play that instead.
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>>341774120

What does depth have to do with removing tedium?

Or are you actually telling me that looking up a weakness chart is depth?
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>>341773443
Ironically, Pokemon is the JRPG with the most competitive scene.
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>>341774326
its the only jrpg with anything resembling a competitive scene
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Not like it matters to me. I always know the type I'm against anyway.
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>>341774194
>JRPG
>competetive multiplayer
This shouldn't exist to begin with. I bet there are tons of mobile games that do dumb shit like this though.
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>>341772538
why does it always take so many posts before this is pointed out?
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>>341771265
>remembering water puts out fire is hard

What's it like being that retarded?
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>>341774120
Okay? What does that have to do with this mechanic that's being added?
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>>341774418

How many JRPGs actually have PvP in the first place?

>Dragon Quest Monsters.
>Mega Man Battle Network at an incredible stretch.
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Depth and skill are different things. EVs, IVs, and nature add depth but for most people they are tedious hidden bullshit. There's no skill in hiding values because it's based on knowledge instead of execution.
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>>341773751
>>341774004

The core idea of pokemon, the idea of a turn based rpg where you build teams from capturing enemies, each with their own distinct value reminiscent of a trading card game is ultimately appealing for all ages.

Pokemon just isn't the best for such a concept for it with it's simple mechanics, priority meta game and piss easy core game designed for children.

The fact that pokemon has a number of autistic mechanics (EVs and shit) has sustained it's adult player based but it's ultimately a game of autism.

If someone came out with a less child focused game with deeper mechanics it would probably steal a good chunk of players outside of the nostalgia fags.
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>>341774635
>Dark beating Ghost
>Rock beating Ice
>Poison beating Fairy
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>>341774635
what does the most damage against a fairy/steel pokemon?
not as easy as GRASS BURNS LOL
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It's not so much the feature itself (or even the zealots defending it) that bother me, it's the mentality behind adding it. GameFreak thought telling players exactly which attacks to use was necessary, and based off of these threads, they were absolutely right. Even with something as simple as Pokemon, people still struggle.

I hope I'm wrong, but after this, I think any chance of Gen 5's "hard" mode returning is completely gone.
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>>341773363
That one.
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>>341774802
>what is Steel weak to?
>Fire, Ground and Fighting
>oh wait, Fairy resists Fighting
ggez
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>>341774817
Are you fucking serious? The trainer schools do the exact same thing and the game even says how effective a move was right after you use it. This is the exact same thing but it tells you the effectiveness before the attack instead of after.
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>>341774817
>GameFreak thought telling players exactly which attacks to use was necessary

Yes, which is why they've had this feature since Gens 1 and 2.
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>>341771114
i dont get it, why cant water gun be super effective?
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>>341775064
but the logic of those combos doesnt exist outside of pokemon so the only way to know would be to memorize it
no one loses on having them easily accessible
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>>341772873
If you can't figure out the type from one battle you're very stupid and this new feature is designed for you.
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>>341774741
95% of the competetive scene just looks up a build and breeds and trains his pokemon like that.

Trough the international trading center it's easy as fuck to get any Pokemon you desire too.

Where is the fucking appeal of playing this game competitively? There is barely any customization. After you breed your ideal Pokemon it's just about giving him the EVs and 4 attacks, maybe one item and that's it.
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>>341775546
Shut the fuck up. I'm so tired of being disrespected on this goddamn website. All I wanted to do was post my opinion. MY OPINION. But no, you little bastards think it's "hilarious" to mock those with good opinions. My opinion. while not absolute, is definitely worth the respect to formulate an ACTUAL FUCKING RESPONSE AND NOT JUST A SHORT MEME OF A REPLY. I've been on this site for 4 years: 4 YEARS and I have never felt this wronged. It boils me up that I could spend so much time thinking and putting effort into things while you shits sit around (probably jerking off to Gardevoir or whatever furbait you like) and make fun of the intellectuals of this world. I've bored you? Good for fucking you. Literally no one cares that your little brain is to underdeveloped and rotted to comprehend my idea...MY GREAT GREAT IDEA. I could sit here all day whining, but I won't. I'm NOT a whiner. I'm a realist and an intellectual. I know when to call it quits and to leave the babybrains to themselves. I'm done with this goddamn site and you goddamn immature children. I have lived my life up until this point having to deal with memesters and idiots like you. I know how you work. I know that you all think you're
"epik trolls" but you're not. You think you baited me? NAH. I've never taken any bait. This is my 100% real opinion divorced from anger. I'm calm, I'm serene. I LAUGH when people imply I'm intellectually low enough to take bait. I always choose to reply just to spite you. I won. I've always won. Losing is not in my skillset. So you're probably gonna reply "lol epik trolled" or "u mad bro" but once you've done that you've shown me I've won. I've tricked the trickster and conquered memery. I live everyday growing stronger to fight you plebs and low level trolls who are probably 11 (baby, you gotta be 18 to use 4chan). But whatever, I digress. It's just fucking annoying that I'm never taken serious on this site, goddamn.
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>>341771114
I like it. The basic types make sense, but other types (especially newest one: Fairy) don't. Add to that the multiple types pokemon increasingly have, and that their design hardly ever communicate their type anymore, and it not only becomes annoying to think about what type is effective on what pokemon, but it also becomes impossible to learn the mechanics. The earlier gens had discovery-based learning, the new gens make that impossible.
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>>341774779
Doesn't take a genius to memorize those pal
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>>341775130
There is actually a big difference between active memorization and instant recovery. If you remember a telephone number you did a lot more brain work than if you just look it up every time.
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>>341775626
>posted one minute after
could have atleast tried
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>>341772320
please shitpost in the shitposting board
thank you
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Quick reminder that the hardest Pokemon game of all time had the exact same feature.
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>>341775890
he did
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>>341775963
top meme
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>>341775640
To add to my comment, I do think there are better ways this could have been implemented. For example, you would have to catch or own the pokemon first to know what's effective or not. Or, at all times you could look at a type chart. Even remembering the effect of moves would be cool (though perhaps a bit difficult to implement).
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>it's a /v/ misinterprets unpolished design as hardcore gameplay episode

Fuck off. Transparency is a good thing.
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>>341775937
>hardest Pokemon game
>not Pokemon Puzzle League or Pokemon Stadium with rented Pokemon only
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>>341771114
You're mad about a thing that JRPGs have been doing for ages?
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>>341775606
The fact that shitters just look up builds doesn't mean that there's no customization.
Also the game is not just one pokemon, it's a whole team of 6, it's different to build a single pokemon than a team which works well together.

In higher level competitive play you usually see come weird shit, which is nice.

I remember the first baton-pass team i played against, before it was even a thing, man it recked my shit.
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>>341776097
Pretty sure the Stadium games outright cheat.
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>>341776097
rng isn't difficulty anon
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>>341775606
Most games that have build diversity funnel down into a rigid meta. People are skilles and unable to experiment and explore build potential on their own so they look shit up because they believe it's "mathematically perfect" and that to not do so will gimp you. This is until someone finds a new exploit and the meta changes.

It's a major flaw of build diversity in that you can place all these freedoms to play a certain way or use a certain strategy but there is always a funnel effect.

The players simply do not care.
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RBY's manual included a type chart.
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>Ash used the pokedex while fighting in the first episodes of the anime
>takes the games 20 years
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>>341771970
Water is super effective because Steelix is part Ground, but I see your point.
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>700 pokemon
>with dual types
>being mad of something so small like saying that move is "super effective" or not
Many rpg do this. Even characters warn you or teach you how to do shit even mid-game. But when you reach 700 different pokemon with shitons of combinations, with new more pokemon coming out in each game, with new type changing things, it is normal for they to do that. And Pokemon is focused for the kids. When you started pokemon you were probably 6, but shit changed over the years with the types, breeding and the number of pokemons. Why do you think there were even guides for this shit for decades? With the pros and cons?

I usually play one of the Pokemon games every 3 years and I forget some pokemon types, sometimes they look Dark-type(like Luxray) and they are just electric, or how some are normal type which I completely forget about those. I would say 80% of the pokemon I can't even remember when they will get a certain move unless I read a guide.
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>Oh fuck they cut out the middle man of googling a pokemon for its weaknesses now, how dare they!?
You do realize that said info doesn't show the first time you face a pokemon, right? All it does is makes it easier to remember down the line and is perfectly alright.
Pokemon is already easy as fuck anyways.

>>341776097
>Pokemon Stadium with rented Pokemon only
Dude, the rented Raichu in 1 was kickass. His Thunder would one-shot Alakazams.
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I would understand in many other games, but Pokémon is actually for little kids. Maybe up to 14. There's nothing wrong with still liking it, but you've gotta be aware of the target audience.
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>>341776259
>>341776192
Ok keeping the simple gameplay aside, how is it fun if you mostly only get shitters as enemies? A competetive game is only as good as the general skill of the playerbase. I'm absolutely sure most people in the competetive scene are build shitters or downright shitters and you will never go to "pro tournaments". There isn't even a ranking system to determine good players.
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How could nintendo betray us like this? Me and my friends are all in agreement that nothing feels better than figuring out a pokemons weakness. When you finally crack the code you feel like some sort of rocket scientist or evil genius. Now you are forced to play the game and have your held throughout the entire ride. This was supposed to be the last bastion of hope for us, the last game that didn't treat me as a child making me actually learn. Well thanks gamefreak, time to wave goodbye to critical thinking in these games.
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My only problem with it is you won't be able to fuck around with Shedinja that often anymore.
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where you this fucking salt about supertraining too?
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>>341771626
Tbh there are matchups that makeliterally zero logical sense.
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>>341776687
People were salty about exp share for all Pokemon. Of course the fanboys kept defending that too. It's literally impossible to have a voice in this threads as a normal Pokemon fan. Fanboys always find some excuse for every flaw.
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>>341776879

EXP share for all Pokemon is a flaw?
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The only people mad about this are idiots who think better of themselves and feel that this is a personal attack on the nonexistent intelligence that they must have to ever have any problems remembering the type chart.
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>>341776879
The new Exp Share was fine for postgame training. Just turn it off for the main game.
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>>341776562
I play only in my local scene, because is fun playing with people that knows how you play, and smogon, which has a proper ranking system.
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>>341776879
exp share is a quality of life addition. It is 100% good
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>>341776879
You can just not use it though. Youd literally have to be retarded to complain about it and keep using it.
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>>341777070
This is fucking bullshit. It shouldn't be there for the main game and for post game you should be able to put the Pokemon in a machine to make them auto level 100.
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>>341774004
Bro competitive pokemon is fucking to get into, it has a shit load of content you wouldn't imagine
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>>341776879
I actually didn't mind the EXP share, partially because Y was the first game I was constantly trying new pokemon out, so it helped grind my team up to a usable level quicker.
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>>341777263
It's not just for levelling, it's also for EV training.

Again, you can just turn it off.
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>>341777313
Who cares about the content. It's competetive. How exciting is a fucking Pokemon match gonna be?
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>>341776562

Pokemon meta isn't actually well defined. The Smogon community is where most builds are taken and they focus immensely on singles which is incredibly imbalanced compared to doubles (which is why official pokemon tourney). Pokemon is an RPG based on priority and RPGs alone imply a lot of luck mechanics which is uncompetitive. So smogon removes things like double team and has things like the sleep clause to prevent sleep abuse and shit. Certain abilities are removed as well (yet for some reason sneaky pebbles is retained despite being the largest factor in singles that gimps half of otherwise usable pokemon).

Doubles is far more balanced and free, to the point where there doesn't even seem to be a tier system for it.
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>>341772467
laughed my butt off
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>>341777263

>Lead with a weak pokemon.
>Swap it out.

Are you seriously upset that this "challenging gameplay" was removed by using the exp-share?
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I like it, losing because the opponent is using some unknown pokemon that looks like he's made of rock but is in fact some fire pokemon or something is not fun.
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>>341771970
>>Kenshiro once punched the shit out of a tank?
>>yep, that's the ticket
I chuckled.
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>>341777701
By the end of X all my Pokemon were 80+ without any grinding. I felt like a cuck playing a 12 year old shitter who never bothered to train once in his life and defeated the strongest veterans in the region in the pokemon league. There is no value in something that is easy.
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>>341777680
it's because Smogon has this unreasonable boner for defensive play. Try stalling in doubles, see what happens. Yeah that's right, you're gonna get obliterated.

That's why they can't handle the format
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>>341778057
>There is no value in something that is easy.

You're playing Pokemon, for Christ's sake. None of them were hard.

Even if you were expecting some sort of challenge, that's not the fault of exp-share but Gamefreak giving you too much exp in general.
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>>341778057
Then don't use it
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>>341771114
>pokemon continues to be a casual shit series
wow
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>>341778057
Sounds like every Pokemon game.
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>>341778057
>Not changing your team up at all
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>>341778057
They should just increase the AI difficulty. Have them actually swap out Pokemon based on what types you're using. Force the player to take coverage into consideration.
Pokemon has always had a problem with difficulty curve. It starts out on medium and just gets easier as it goes on. Never challenging the player and making them play differently. It's just a matter of using the right type. X/Y did a decent job with the gyms having some odd types that could counter your super-effective Pokemon, but it wasn't enough. The E4 should feel like the culmination of everything you've gone through, making you use all the knowledge you've acquired throughout the game.
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>>341778057
I bet you felt like the King of the world beating this guy though
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>>341771583
Underrated post
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>Hidden Power will still list as ??? Type
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>>341778518
You raise a good point, but perhaps consider that Pokemon has never been good?
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>>341778518
Makes me laugh every time.
Beating cynthia was the greatest feeling with beating N and Geistis close behind.
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>>341778482
How about they just have a hard mode from the very beginning? I get it that Nintendo doesn't want kids feel like shit for playing the normal or easy mode or getting overwhelmed by the hard mode but for gods sake just shit on the children and throw the long time fans a bone once in a while.
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>>341779367
Maybe so. I don't know how that would affect the online multiplayer or something, but I don't really think the inclusion of a hard mode would be detrimental to the game.
What I'm butthurt over is the lack of a Battle Tower like challenge towards the end. Something that really pushes the player's skills.
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>>341779363
I'd say Gen 5's final boss marathon was better than Cynthia, but just marginally.
You get a legendary, rival/champion, and villain leader fight all in a row and it's great. until you learn the legendary's catch rate is higher than Bidoof
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>>341776742
>Bug resists Fighting
>Rock super effective against Ground
>Ground resisting Rock
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>>341780318
>Rock super effective against Ground
Other way around lad.
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>>341778219
>None of them were hard

Gen I Sabrina, Whitney, and Gen II Lance
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>>341773737
I hate knowing the typing well enough to quickly be disencouraged on newer pokemon because they get completely atrocious typings.

Like, Grass and Rock will never not be shit tier for me ever again.
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>>341771583
You're smarter than me - I suck at Picross
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>>341780539
Shit, you're right. Those two types always confused me. I blame Onix and Geodude.
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>pokemon includes information about weaknesses, something hardcore games like the megaten franchises have been doing for centuries
What a tragedy.
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>>341780318
Tough Caparace. It's more effective to stomp them with overwhelming force than to pierce their shell with precision jabs
>>341780539 Earthquakes can destroy mountains
Sand grain physics absorb kinetic force by shifting their position and accommodating the intruding object. So kind of like China and the Mongols.
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post yfw the reason we have this is because Pokemon can have 3 types now, which would make it difficult for children to calculate type disatvantage without the casualization
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>>341778057
That's why you upgrade to the big boy version of Pokemon if you have Custom Firmware.

https://mega.nz/#!NUggVAQL!nQYqzPa7QBJ3Fq98QjNJGuBk9wY_7T-677I2jgrR414

http://pastebin.com/ra7bcpN1
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>>341781818
It's probably because we have a backlog of 800+ Pokemon and not all of them wear their typing on their sleeves
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>>341771265
They are all faggots, you can be proud of it.
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>>341781818
What pokemon could have three types? 2 I feel is enough types for most of them.
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>>341782547
I meant like they'll introduce it in the new games.
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>>341774779
>Can't see ghosts in the dark
>Rocks smash ice
>AIDS kills faggets
Not hard to remember
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>>341773102
It's not wrong. Be more mad, you dumb virgin.
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>>341772924
Caring about video games in general is better?
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>>341774779
>Ghost aint got shit versus real evil
>Ice is brittle, it loses to anything hard (rock, steel, fighting) or hot (fire)
>STDs kill the gays
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>>341771114
Why?
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>>341779617
I think Cynthia herself was a bit harder though.
Although, Ghestis' Hydreigon was absolute ass to fight.
To be fair, said legendary is required to catch to advance the story.
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>>341783256
Is it required though?
I mean I never skipped catching it but what happens if it faints?
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>>341781035
I did too, but Pokemon Picross made it easy to learn.
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>>341783256
>>341779617
They also force you to use them, not matter the shitty, Levels moves, IVs, Nature, lack of EVs.
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>>341783528
Now I know that's a load of shit, because I didn't use it in my run
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>>341771114
FUCKING GAMEFREAK TELLING ME IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE LIKE I'M A WORTHLESS BABY. FUCK YOU GAMEFREAK.
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>>341778604
REDDTORS OFF MY BOARD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>341771114
This
Thread
Again
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>>341783694
What? I am pretty sure they made you use the legendary and they put it as your point unit to boot. Am I rememberting things wrong?
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>>341772873
Because it doesn't, you need to have the opposing pokemon already seen for the reminders to show up.
And Ledyba in the showcase was already marked as seen
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>>341783431
He remains standing there and you can talk to it to restart the fight.
Only way to actually skip it is to not having a single open slot in your party or boxes.

>>341783528
I don't recall if he was actually forced in, but it was level 50 and I think it naturally has at least mid-high IVs.
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>>341783961
They let you poke around in the PC [somehow] if you caught the legendary with a full party, and they tell you to use the legendary you just caught

You don't actually have to
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>>341771114
more hand holding? doesn't nintendo know that much of their fans are over 20? more out of touch than vince mcmahon
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>>341783718
but that's after you've done the right move. it's to make the player feel a sense of pride going "Yep! you made the right choice. now watch his health go flying down".
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>>341785932
>manchild playing games meant for children
>others are out of touch
nintendo is creatively bankrupt for more than two decades but you're a pathetic weeb neet so you don't deserve to have an opinion
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>>341772723
this i agree with.
cant they just stop already
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>>341786306
the latest nintendo game i played was oot. i only said most of them are in the 20s is from my browsing of /v/ all the time. dont blame the messenger, you retard
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Haven't played since 5th gen, have they finally made it so you can see natures durring battle? That's the only shit I care about and been needing it for a long ass time.
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>>341771114
>Water/Fairy confirmed
Guess which leak was right :^)
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You can look this shit up in five seconds on your phone or even the 3DS' Internet browser. There's no way to fuck it up anymore unless your incredibly, incredibly lazy or stupid, so you might as well save people's time. Even more "hardcore" games like SMT tell you type advantage in-game.
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>>341786215
>Showing the enemy weakness beforehand is bad
>being congratulated like a child is ok
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>>341771114
>Oh no, this casual game for 5 year olds I should have grown out of decades ago is becoming easier, FUCKING NINTENDO
Truly the tragedy of our lifetimes
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>>341787034
>Torchic learns Peck
Fire/Flying CONFIRMED11!!!1!
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>pokemon is now as casualized as SMT
FUCK
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>>341776586
Impressive bait.

But not as good as:

>I've learned alot from games like ace attorney series, which has taught me to be intuitive, spot lies and contradictions when people talk to me in person.
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Every year games get easier and easier, every year people who remember how games used to be complain about it, every year people respond with ad hominem arguments, change the subject, and berate the people for pointing out how the games are being made easier.
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>>341771317
Nothing or a copy of the Battle Maison in Hoenn, which is a copy of the Battle Maison in Kalos.
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>>341771114
This is actually a good thing.

Casuals will always just pick the super effective move when there's actually a lot more variables if you're in a higher difficulty battle.
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