Oh, great. This is going to be yet another poorly written, hamfisted, convoluted piece of shit with a "deep human meaning".
Bravo Kojima.
Also the first human tools were stone edges.
>GRABBUH THE BABBUH
>W..Why?
>GRABBUH THE BABBUH
what is kojima even now right on
I'm convinced this guy is an idiot. I fail to see how anyone can be a fan of this guy.
>>341770808
Really makes you think
>>341770808
he's a dumb hack, only fedora tier redditors take him seriously
But that's what Kojima does. Why are people expecting different?
>>341771329
Before MGSV, he just made video games with dumb plots.
Now he's all about this arthouse post-modern imagery. He fails hard at it.
>>341770808
>Also the first human tools were stone edges.
>something you have to make came before something you pick up and use
uhhhhhhhh errrrrrrrrrrrr no.
>>341770808
>the first human tools were stone edges.
oh really, were you there?
real talk though, we were using fairly sophisticated tools before we were even technically human.
>>341770808
I get he is trying to be deep but his broken english makes it so hard to take seriously
>>341771415
MGS has been "convoluted" and tried for a "deep human meaning" since the first.
>>341770808
humans really didn't "invent" sticks they fall off trees and we pick them up
You don't invent a stick you fucking retard.
I'm starting to believe he's the Kanye West of videogames.
His work can be taken as genious shit, but everything he says sounds stupid and pretentious as fuck.
>>341770808
If you don't like Kojima games don't olay them, retard
And are you implying that sharpened stones were being used before sticks? That's retarded. Sounds like you just googled some shit in an attempt to seem knowledgeable.
>>341771481
sticks came before stones.
modern gorillas have been using sticks and only recently started using stones for things.
Thing is, we don't ACTUALLY know if Kojima is shitty. Yet.
You can't judge him on previous games (MGS) because he was working for Konami, and they sometimes had people getting in his way here and there.
Now he has full creative control, so this is basically THE game to finally judge him for real.
>Chad sits at home eating PIZZA while you hit the gym HARD
>>341771760
he said "invented" you dipshit
>>341771760
Sticks may have been used as weapons, but stone hand axes were the first tools. Faggot
>>341770808
>Oscar Winning
Kek. The oscars would laugh him out for making art school level shit
>>341771890
>weapons isn't a tool
>>341770808
This not even funny anymore. This man need help.
>>341771998
A weapon and a tool are different things dipshit
The oldest human tool in the world is a handaxe from Olduvai gorge, not a fucking stick
>>341772201
What is he even talking about?
>>341771832
Are you implying CP?
>>341772201
>ape evolve into man
>>341771758
He really is the Kanye West of videogames.
>>341771781
MGS2 is already a masterpiece.
Kojima is retarded fuck him and his sticks and ropes he's a nutjob.
How could they make sticks into weapons without sharp edges from stone hand-axes to sharpen them?
Also, check this shit out
>>341772371
The important difference is that Kojima is likeable.
>>341770808
twitter was a mistake
>>341770808
And the last one of some
>>341772540
The internet was a mistake
after mgsv, this 'philosophical' kojima just makes him retarded
>>341772420
Snap a stick to a sharp edge? File the stick on a stone surface?
>>341771683
Yeah but MGS was always coated in humor and it was all tongue in cheek with some deeper meaning scattered through the blunt long winded dialogue dumps from the characters.
This is Kojima trying to seem more capable than he really is. Last time he tried to seem completely serious we got MGS 4 and 5, arguably the worst MGS games and they were goofy as shit. There's nothing to show us he's learned from his mistakes so far but I do hope I'm wrong.
t. Kojima fan who doesn't suck his cock at every chance
Kojima has slowly circled the drain for a long time now, he's completely lost it at this point.
>>341771740
POWER OF STICK BEATS HAND
EVERY DAY
YOU BREAK STICK, NOW YOU GOT TWO STICK
>>341772667
So a "stone surface" would be the first tool, then? Incorrect but that is what your post would imply if true.
A tool is something you use to make something into something else
>>341772648
the world was a mistake.
>>341772420
so kojima's game is about DAY OF THE ROPE
RACE WAR NOW
>>341770808
It's a stick Kojima.
You didn't invent it.
>>341772810
I was a mistake
>>341772201
>human came from apes
>>341773085
Are you implying that isn't true?
Human beings didn't invent sticks they fell from fucking trees. Does Kojima think he's smart doing this?
>>341772797
For something to be a tool it would have to be used for or created with a purpose.
But I think this argument about what was, or could be said to be, the first tool used by modern man is a bit daft.
Kojima has chosen the stick because it fits his metaphor. Whether he's technically correct doesn't matter.
>If I write these things in caps they will seem to have more of a coherent point.
>>341773276
Human beings didn't evolve FROM apes, they both shared a common ancestor. Otherwise there would be no apes today because they would have evolved into humans.
>>341770808
Literally 2deep4u
>>341773285
It matters because an analogy or metaphor needs to rely on what is true to be valid.
Also stone hand axes were created with a purpose; they were used for many things, chopping wood, chopping meat, for weapons, sharpening sticks etc.
Then. they were definitely the first tools by your new revised definition
>>341773068
Nice.
>>341771481
A rock isn't a tool.
A stick was the first thing to be fashioned for a specific use.
Which do you think happened first a sharpened stick or a sharpened stone?
>>341773398
Why does it fucking matter?
He was still getting his point across.
Jesus fucking Christ you manbabies will say anything to criticize Kojima these days.
>>341773398
Human beings ARE apes.
There was a common ancestor but we're still a branch of the ape family.
Theory/evidence dictates beings evolved from a common ancestor.
If you say otherwise you're a fucking dumbass and you need to go back to school.
>>341773445
Maybe it was stone axes, I don't know, I'm not an Anthropologist.
All I'm saying is that once again /v/ has jumped to pointless shit and just ignored everything else to focus effort on hating.
REMOVE CORD
ADD STICK
So, Kamiya is the eastern Phil Fish.
Who is the western Kojima? Todd?
>>341773398
Were you there?
>>341773979
It was stone axes, I've read about it
Pic related, it's the oldest one, a stone chopping tool from Olduvai gorge
Someone post Konami Ideas Factory
>>341773992
>Kamiya is the eastern Phil Fish.
That's a disingenuous comparison and you know it.
Also a western Kojima would be less Todd and more David Cage.
>>341774290
Don't be stupid.
You think people found out how to sharpen stones before using a sharp stick?
>>341774415
All you have to do is bash stones against other stones
You would be very surprised how easy it is to get a sharp stone
It's a leap for mankind because it was the first time humans actually had the forethought to create something from what was around them
Thus the first tool
>>341770808
>>341772201
As you come into this world, something else is also born. You begin your life, and it begins a journey towards you. It moves slowly, but it never stops. Wherever you go, whatever path you take, it will follow - never faster, never slower, always coming. You will run; it will walk. You will rest; it will not. One day, you will linger in the same place too long; you will sit too still or sleep too deep. And when, too late, you rise to go, you will notice a second shadow next to yours. Your life will then be over.
>>341771890
Wow, you sure got him. Guess his career has a anthropologist is over and we'll just play his videogames then?
>>341772445
Nah, he's cute and awkward in an adorable way because he's Japanese.
Kanye is just black.
>>341772289
gameplay mechanics, his game will use a tethering system to either objects or NPCs rather than conventional direct hitpoint damage weapons
>>341774473
If you are an amalgamation of your parents why are your parents still alive.
>>341774841
If you are going to make your game or whatever have a deep artistic statement, at least make sure that it's fundamentally correct
Otherwise what's the point? You're just creating a fictional world and attributing it with meaning like every shit writer does
It's like if I wrote a book about a dragon and told you the dragon represented love. I can't do that. That's just baseless, crap writing.
>>341774274
yes.
#BTFO
>>341770808
That's a reference yo. To a Japanese story.
Also he barely speaks English.
>>341775280
>That's just baseless, crap writing.
It could be baseless, good writing.
Believe in yourself anon.
You can do it.
Stick = Drum
Cord = Guitar or Bass
It's a rythm game.
>Stick
>cord
>stickord
>sticker
MARIO STICKER STAR 2 CONFIRMED
>>341775565
I don't have to because the Japanese are doing it for us
>people blame kojima for MGSV and not konami limiting him
>Konami being notorious for being bad to all their employees, that kojima wanted them to change
>even unfinished MGSV made twice back its money
>Konami only firing Kojima because he made PT demo under the guise of an MGS3 like mini game for MGSV, instead was used to prove a damn good point his concept of a silent hills would work
>lel kojimbo hak XD
HOLY SHIT
KOJIMA, YOU'RE SUCH A GENIUS LITTLE YELLOW MAN
>>341771683
All of Kojimas "deep and meaningful" subplots like genes, memes, the times, etc. have all been garbage but he managed to make up for that by making the main stories be direct rip offs of movies he likes
Ever since he stopped doing that in 3 and tried creating entirely original stories its just been disaster after disaster
>>341775748
Kojima has never written a good story
Wait what the fuck is he even trying to say am I retarded.
>>341772386
thanks tto fukushima. let's face it kojima is a talentless hack
>>341775981
>Cock Dirts
>Doc Tricks
What does it mean?
>>341776294
Boktai is the best spaghetti western nordic Vampire hunter story ever written
i'll keep coming
>>341772201
>Part 7 of 9
Should have just linked to a blog instead.
>>341772682
Youre a fucking idiot. Kojima has always been trying to insert deeper messages in his games. MGS4 was perhaps goofier than any other game in the series, and MGS5 only felt serious because theres little exposition.
The only reason you faggots deny it is because youre retroactively trying to distance yourselves from the fanbase that used to firmly believe that he was the most talented and creative game director in the whole industry because hes failed to live up to your very unrealistic expectations.
Of course, this can only be a good thing. The less morons there are to hype up his his next game, the best it can be discussed after it actually releases.
>>341770808
Y-Yeah! The STICK! The cord!
Kojima is BACK BABY!??
>Kojimadrones will defend this.
Why can't I babble on about batshit insane concepts and get paid millions of dollars for a living? Is it a Japanese thing?
>>341778092
Good fucking job ignoring everything he says, he wasn't denying that Kojima put shit to attempt at being deep or meaningful, he is saying that it was behind the goofy shit in the games, something that since GZ has been sorely lacking in his games, take that Kojima cock out of your mouth, the lack of oxygen is killing your brain
> Implying it won't be a rehash of MGS1 plot starring cleetus reedus
>>341772201
>7 of 9
Star Trek game confirmed?
>>341771758
Nah, he is George Lucas.
Did something cool a few times in the past
Fucked up everytime he tried again in modern times
>>341776883
And that was the work of Ikuya Nakamura who was both the director and the writer of the story, now what is the next game you will attempt to rewrite history?
Dog = Konami
Chocolate = stick
Woman = us
BRAVO JOKINMA
GUYS YOU REALISE THAT BY STICK HE MEANS A WEAPON/ A WAY OF ATTACK RIGHT.
YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY THIS STUPID RIGHT?
>>341781512
The Hayter one is better.
>>341779236
No, dude. Kojima is finally doing what he wanted: movies. That's why he went with Sony. It explains MGS4.
What a pretentious idiot.
>>341770808
He literally said he's going to make a new genre, so who the fuck knows what this will be
>>341781794
Kojima was never friends with Hayter. The picture makes no sense.
>>341782064
Ironic kusoge
He's taken inspiration from 4chan and anthropology textbooks
>>341770808
actually the first human tools were hands.
>>341782181
I'm not even mad. Just impressed. You took the essence of a shitpost and made it fit this context.
>>341771182
>basing someone's intellect off of tweets
really? show me profound thought provoking twitter posts. hell, show me anything remotely intelligent on any social media site.
>>341782294
it's true. depends on what your definition of "tools" is though really. but anyway, it's not really important.
>>341770808
Hideo was always a pretentious art homo, he's only trendy to like because he's Japanese, nobody else has played his games except dumb weebs that can't tell a story is shit. He's irrelevant in general
>>341782064
>"Watch, I'm gonna make a new genre."
>Pisses half of Sony's generous budget away to make a fucking teaser for a game without a real concept
This can only go well.
>>341773398
You're still wrong, we ARE apes today. You're thinking of monkeys.
ITT: contrarian /v/ hating a usual
This is reddit
>>341770808
You fucking what?
>>341771760
>if your opinion is in opposition of what I believe, you have no right to complain!
Do you know who you remind me of? Those fanboys who have 20,000 posts on the forum of their favorite game.
Why don't you just go back there, faggot. It's obvious you prefer places with one sided fanatical views as opposed to one with with varying opinions. There's also no post counts or signatures here, so you're wasting your breath.
>DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T PLAY IT
>IT WORKS ON MY PC
>MAKE A GAME, THEN YOU CAN COMPLAIN.
Fucking crybaby.
>>341771740
At the heart of invention lies the power to create purpose. A stick was never a stick until Man came to it and picked it up.
>>341782943
nah man i don't have any idea what you're talking about because i have no metric of reddit to measure against as i don't go there
you should go back there though
>>341773617
>A rock isn't a tool.
get a load of this fucking retard.
Yano is a bigger threat than Kojima, and the worst part is he's the co-writer for the game
Yano is a literal hack in Japan. Just look up his works and articles other than MGS. I'm convinced Fukushima left because Kojima kept putting the guy down. If you don't agree with Kojima then you're fucked. If you do, you get a lift from them to a good position
reminder that his take on linguistics and philosophy of language literally was parasites inside your body lmao
>>341779135
I'm not sure. I often ask myself why Japanese writing is, on the whole, shoddy shallow crap that tells instead of showing, but I think it might be a "lost in translation" kind of thing. Not sure.
For all I know it's perfect literature in the Japanese language
Huh.
>>341781512
>>341781794
>>341782124
Why not add born Keifer and Hayter you chuckle fucks? No one has done so yet
>>341783298
Yeah he's too busy spending his $100m on designer pieces of arthouse furniture for his new Tokyo studio
>>341783298
afterwards he says he's doing audio commentary for the trailer
>>341783185
>Just look up his works and articles other than MGS
Can't find anything besides that TPP interview.
>>341783294
It's why I can't watch anime, the writing is just absolutely awful.
>>341782743
the capture equipment used to make that trailer is absurdly high end
>>341770808
Kojima is turning into the jap jaden smith
Imagine a collab.
>>341783369
Cause Kojima wasn't friends with Hayter and tried to get rid of him a bunch of times
>>341783294
Much of it is lost in translation. For one, they have a completely different grammatical structure to English, so translating it necessitates re-writing.
>>341783469
Yano wrote the MGSV novelization under the psuedonym of "Nojima"
Nojima is also writing (co-writing) Death Stranding with Koj
>>341783185
>Fukushima
He left because out of all of them he had the worse working conditions by far.
>kojima makes reference to japanese literature
>EHL OH EHL, WAT HE SAY XD
>>341783635
So I guess what we're getting isn't the work of an author. The author's skill never really shines through in translations. It takes a rare person to be both a good author and translator.
>>341783643
Yeah I know. So he has written the novelizations for
>Peace Walker
>MGS1
>MGS2
>TPP
Has he written anything else? Why is he a hack?
>>341783553
How can Metal Gears be real if submarines are real?
>>341770808
>stone edge before stick
People know the whole sticks and ropes thing is a reference to The Box Man right? A Japanese story he loved when he was young. He's using this to make a point about how his game is trying to be as much about the ropes that connect people to the things that's important to them as the sticks used to protect themselves. It's not hard, just actually read the tweets and get the context. Oh wait, it's /v/ and you're just being an ex-girlfriend because MGSV wasn't all you wanted it to be.
>>341783468
>H-herro Internet. This, uh, com-... commu~, uh sorry hehe. Comentury on D-uh, trailer offu Deth Sturandingu. Prease Enjoy.
>>341783810
There is such a thing as a good translation, it just takes time and money and the willingness to piss off the creator. I quite like the current No Longer Human translation. Arguments around the idea of not getting the author's intended experience are moot. Even if you share the same language you aren't getting what the author intended and literature is better for it.
>>341772682
>t. Kojima fan who doesn't suck his cock at every chance
t. not a real fan
>>341784120
For all the shit I've given him ITT, I do really love Hideo. I don't know why. He seems like such a nice guy. For some reason I really enjoy hearing him speak and present things.
>>341784202
>if you're a fan you must praise the person every chance you get!
Kojima is the Lucas of vidya.
He's surrounded by yes men and with nobody that will challenge his ideas, which are often nonsense convoluted "deep" garbage.
Being limited and challenged is what caused him to make such great stuff, which isn't happening anymore.
>>341770808
Its like he doesn't know we used out teeth to do that. Monkeys still do it in the wild.
>>341784226
>>341784567
>watches red letter media reviews once
>>341784567
This and Fukushima was the one behind all the perceived genius in his writing hence the sharp drop in writing quality 4 onwards.
>>341783994
You're right, how foolish of me not to basically worship this stupid slant that makes shitty games with ridiculous plots and characters.
I will begin assembling a shrine to him immediately.
>>341784697
I'm gonna be honest, I'm fucking jealous of how good he is at twitter. Like if he only tweeted about his lunch and nothing else, it would be a 5/5 account. Those angles, that unified subject matter. Kojima truly is an artistic soul.
>>341784567
Yes we all read and later listened to the interview with his original localizer.
>>341785030
Jeremy Blaustein, right?
It was a good interview but I kind of get the impression he was bitter and he kind of came across as an ass
He was also drinking during it lmao
>>341784567
What hurts me is that he managed to snatch Shinkawa. Imagine that godly art with Platinum or someone that makes actual games.
SOMEBODY OPEN UP A WINDOW
>>341784697
He's probably taking the piss out of American culture and cuisine, the Japanese do it very subtly.
>>341785124
It was a fantastic interview but people take the word of a talented but disenfranchised man talking about his former employer as the word of god. There's probably a lot of truth to it, but it's definitely not the whole picture.
>>341770808
>Also the first human tools were stone edges
So you're saying you don't believe humans picked up a stick in self defense before they crafted stone edges?
Because I think that's absurd.
>>341770808
>a stick is a tool
A stick is a stick until you fashion it into a tool.
>>341785417
Yes but you don't MAKE a stick. You pick it up. you FASHION a rock, and make it an artificial man-made tool, for a purpose. That is what we mean when we say it is the first tool.
HOW CAN ONE PERSON BE SO FULL OF HIMSELF???
HOLY SHIT SENPAI
>>341785286
Except it's well documented that Kojeemer is a certified westaboo. And what's more American than fucking hamburgers.
>>341785527
Then you should be upset with his english and misuse of the word "invented" rather than the sentiment of what he said.
>>341785286
>taking the piss
Kojima is a huge westaboo he genuinely loves burgers and American culture (tv shows, movies etc, comics etc)
It's why his writing is so shit
>>341785527
Or perhaps the incogruency you perceive is thepointhe's trying to make. Tweet Philosophy 101 sempai. Observer Master Trump do it all the time.
>>341785680
His meaning would still be the same. That mankind used a stick for whatever reason does not make it the first tool. Stone chopping tools were.
>>341770808
But a stick is from a tree. It's not a tool until you actually make something of it?
>>341785680
It ruins the meaning because of a fundamental misunderstanding, much like the misuse of "quantum mechanics" in Bioshock: Infinite.
>>341772201
What the fuck? Like I know I'm not retarded, but is his English the problem?
>>341783994
>>341783994
This my fucking professors, he said he's playing with the concepts of STICK (violence) and ROPE (protection) in the gameplay this time
>>341770808
I fucking can't stop laughing at that tweet
>>341785830
>>341785951
Sometimes I forget that /v/ is populated by invalids.
"Kojima is a talentless hack!" wheezed the Anonymous poster who has never achieved anything of note in their life.
>>341785835
Natural selection will take care of you, anon. It'll be over soon.
>>341786076
You just don't understand what the meaning of a "tool" is. And no; this time it isn't you...
holy shit there's so many low IQ shitters on /v/
did we get raided by reddit or something?
It literally doesn't matter what he said but the sentiment he's trying to convey through apt symbolism. Sticks and ropes were also probably man's first tools, Kojima knows his history better than any of you basement dwelling nobodies.
>>341786076
Why are you defending a man who didn't make a simple Google search before shitting out a fan-theory-tier explanation about his latest pseudointellectual movie?
>>341786272
>Ropes were mankind's first tool
HOLY FUCKING SHIT OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>341771758
>does not speak native english
>hurr he sound dumb
and you sound fucking retarded every time you go on about your anime waifus and baka gaijin too
Doesn't Kojima's assistant run his English twitter account? I remember hearing that somewhere.
>>341770808
>but you get disconnected your umbilical CORD when you are born
Huh, makes you really think about things. Seems like Kojima might be on to something and the only way we'll get to know is when we play Death Stranding.
>>341786323
Why are you even here talking about it if the very idea of people enjoying his work infuriates you so fucking much?
OH, RIGHT! You don't have a life and you take it out on others through shitposting and b8ing.
>>341784697
How does he still manage to look young when he eats all that shit? He must have good genes.
>ITT people who don't know the difference between a tool fashioned from intelligence and forethought and a fucking stick
>>341770808
>Using convoluted as a strict negative.
Just because your pebble brain can't follow something doesn't make it bad, doofus.
>>341786272
Holy fuck, take an anthropology course.
STONE EDGES were man's first "tools" and knowing this damages the "symbolism."
>>341786445
No. You fucking read it on /v/ and not "somewhere".
It's bullshit you fucking gullible idiot fuck.
>>341786484
Or, you know, he exercises and doesn't eat it ALL the time.
>>341786517
Metaphors are just statements if they're not based on truth
>>341770808
what the fuck is this shit
>>341786480
I'm mad because people are agreeing with a statement that is demonstrably disproven by anthropological studies.
>>341786076
>>341786191
>>341786272
>>341786480
Why do you fags keep sucking his cock so defensively? This is so fucking pathetic. Kojima hasn't even written anything "deep" or "meaningful" since MGS 2 and even then it was ripped almost word for word from other works of sci-fi from actual writers.
>>341786517
Man's first "tool" was his feces, which he would fling at others.
>>341771207
hahaha got me in tears
>>341786540
Actually he's right. I don't have time to post the proof right now but I'll be back soon.
>>341786649
199 posts of pure bullshit my friend
STOP MEMEING OH MY GOOOOOOOD YOU ALREADY MADE EVERYONE MAD
A HUMAN BEING PICKING UP A FUCKING STIIIIIIIICK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUURRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>341786636
It's a metaphor for Kojima's lack of research.
Reminder that most of /v/ does not even have a college education or job.
>>341786691
that's a nice opinion
it doesn't change the fact that Kojima is successful and has made games of note while you are an Anonymous nobody
>>341786694
Just like modern man. We used to fling at each other. Now we do it with words. This is deep.
>>341770808
Classic Hideo boys.
>>341786827
It also doesn't change the fact that you would eat up anything he shits out without question.
>>341786719
The thread will be gone and archived by the time you grow some balls, anon.
Make your point now or get fucked boi.
>>341786959
that's a strawman and you can't refute my point about you being a loser
strike three, thanks for playing! :)
>>341786827
Take that gook cock out of your mouth son, and quit projecting while you're at it. It's still fucking pathetic.
![[Mori] Wakako-zake - 06 [16FA8E2B].mkv_snapshot_01.37_[2016.03.25_20.05.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ftZ4sdG.jpg "[Mori] Wakako-zake - 06 [16FA8E2B].mkv_snapshot_01.37_[2016.03.25_20.05.26].jpg")
Did Jaden Smith take over Kojima's twitter account?
>>341787039
>strawman
No, it's a valid accusation based on your relentless defense.
What if the teaser has jack shit to do with the game but they had to put something out for E3 so Sony wouldn't pull their funding
>>341787209
>implying Jaden Smith reads Kobo Abe
>implying Jaden Smith reads
How could he read if his eyes aren't real?
>>341784821
Who said anything like that? You're exactly what I'm talking about.
>>341774743
Heh.
With what we know so far, this could very well be a game version of Heaven Sent with nekkid Reedus replacing Peter Capaldi.
>>341786827
>opinion
That wasn't an opinion, it was a statement.
>made games of note
If that's your measure of success then I failed at life. Should have made more video games I guess.
Besides the sad ad hominem you should really stop being so defensive over criticism meant for other people. It's unhealthy.
>>341770808
>humans invented sticks
Kojima is a fucking idiot
i think /v/ is retarded, which is probable due to how many people here spend their time playing mind numbing games
mankind "invented" the stick, because the stick is an abstract concept in our mind. we don't actually imagine a branch off of a tree, we instead imagine the "stick" itself: some wooden, rather straight instrument. it looks very much in our mind like a spear without the sharpened bit. mankind also invented the "rock" as much as mankind invented the wheel, but it's more probable for me that early human ancestors used sticks considering our origin in ethiopia.
>>341770808
I don't understand what he means
>>341788208
No, sticks are natural, labeled or not.
Sticks naturally fall from trees. We only named them.
We, in no way, invented the stick.
>>341788392
A stick is not a tool until a human uses it as such.
You are most likely autistic if you cannot understand what Kojima means.
>>341772419
i hope this is real and i don't even like rape porn
>>341771728he is right you know
>>341788208
I just invented my dick in your mom lol
It's literally an abstract concept I just invented :^)
Kojimas great for the vidya industry. Pretty much the only guy thats really trying to make games you would never see anywhere else. He's succeeded and failed but the wild rides are always fun.
Is /v/ still that salty over mgsV?
>>341770808
no Del Toro no buy
>>341788764
Or bird or gorilla or...
>>341788764
But humans did not INVENT sticks, nor were they the first invented tools.
As it has been repeatedly stated, stone edges were.
>>341771182
you do realise no one thinks this is some groundbreaking deep shit people just like his games
>>341788392
The stick is a tool, and a cord is like a stick.
>>341788764
You discover nature, you don't invent it. You can discover tools in case of sticks or stones but you invent a stone axe. Hiow is this a hard concept for you to grasp?
>>341788392
yes, the very name of "stick" is an invention, an english name for an abstract concept. do we have a different name for every type of stick? everything is limited by our human nature and perception. the very moment our early ancestors invented the "stick" was the moment we used it for some utility, for whatever purpose; where it no longer exists in just a natural state but has an eternal human concept attached to it.
i.e why do young children pick up sticks and swing them around, imagining them as swords or other weapons intuitively, without anyone teaching them this manner?
>>341789043
see image
>>341789102
humans did invent sticks, though. it doesn't matter if someone repeats something wrong, it doesn't make it true.
>>341770808
why doesnt he just go to hollywood and make a movie.
>>341789427
But humans did not invent sticks. They can be used AS tools, but are not man-made tools as stone edge tools are.
>>341770808
You're telling me they were capable of making stone tools before carrying sticks? Fuck off.
>>341789545
Because people like him are a dime a dozen in film. Kojima can't do much outside of good game design.
>>341789513
Your ridiculous mental gymnastics could be used to render literally anything true.
>>341783049
This is beyond stupid.
Tool usage and invention are two different things.
Animals have been using tools (including sticks) long before humans have. Also, nothing is arguably ever "invented", but merely discovered. The practical uses for a stick still exist even if they aren't known.
>>341770808
https://youtu.be/w_RaPOOVX1Y
>>341789513
>to create or produce (something useful) for the first time
>humans created sticks for the first time
You're stupid, and I don't even want to get started on your weak ass linguistics. Also, stop using semi-colons and id est. You don't understand either.
>people actually arguing over such retarded semantics
holy shit you Kojima drones need a life
stop giving this retard attention
>>341785528
So you can view without downloading? How does that work?
Prease enjoy
Who was babby?
>>341788839
Explain.
>>341789662
i'm not "rendering literally anything true", what i am saying is not a novel nor absurd thought.
>>341789770
the moment our early ancestors picked up a stick and used it was an act of invention. you're saying nothing of value and are probably a retard and my use of i.e and semi-colons are completely valid.
if your retarded reply to this is going to be that i didn't use a comma after i.e. you can fuck right off
Well considering people spent this whole thread arguing back and forth about it, thats a successful marketing ploy.
>>341789770
Then what do you call a chunk of wood lying on the ground? Before we named it, it did not exist. It was merely "there." Once we became aware of it, then it came into existence. In this way, human invented everything around us by naming them.
>>341790343
You're saying "everything is a human construct" which is an absurd idea.
Jesus fucking christ.
Main protag is obviously going to have some sort of sword for attacking and like a whip or rope to bind to shit to climb ledges and jump gaps. Are you guys seriously too retarded to understand this shit?
>>341789636
Yes they were capable of making stone and flint flakes and simple stone-chopping tools for meat, bone, wood etc.
>>341772420
>Le human race
Can this cancerous Jewish meme die already? Humanity is a species, not a race, the races are caucasians, niggers, mongoloids and those subhuman austrialian niggers.
>>341790427
So the first thing humans ever saw was a stick? Good job tying yourself in all this retarded mental gymnastics Kojicucks.
You guys are a whole bundle of sticks.
>>341790343
>it was an act of invention
It wasn't.
>my use of i.e and semi-colons are completely valid
They aren't.
>>341790427
>Once we became aware of it, then it came into existence.
You are so stupid it hurts. Maybe instead of being aggressively dumb on 4chan, you could spend your time reading the definition of invention or just brushing up on grammar.
