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Samus is only respected for her body now?
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Every time there's a thread about Samus, people can't refrain from talking about her ass. I mean, they don't even talk about her boobs, they talk about her ass.

To make matters worse, they talk about the size of her ass and even questions whether it's plump or not.

Is this Nintendo's fault, or is it the players' fault?
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>>341761843
Well what else is there to talk about
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Samus has the best ass in vidya.
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>>341761843
i have always said that you can map several moments where they fucked up samus' characterization.

the first two are metroid fusion: her faggy reminiscing bits, and metroid zero mission: zero suit samus sequence.

unfortunately zero suit samus is too good of a design and also a bit too sexualized. its dragging her badassery levels down to bimbo levels.
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>>341761843
If you wanted a Samus ass thread then you just needed to do it.
No need in trying to hide it
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>>341762102
Don't you think it's a bit disrespectful to question whether her ass is athletic or not?

>>341762147
Maybe, but aren't there other things about her to talk about?
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>>341762102
Pipes?
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It's almost like ZSS is new and focused on heavily in Smash due to her tier (while Suit Samus is barely played cause she's terrible) and we haven't had a single game release with Suit Samus in years.

So yeah wanting to jerk off to Samus's bimbo curves is going to last a lot longer than "uh suit Samus is cool I guess"
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>>341761843
I main her in smash. She's in the top 3. Try other characters, still only like playing as her. She just has the added benefit of being the hottest vidya character of all time.

I think it works with her persona, because she is literally raised by aliens and never talks. Everyone wants to bone her but she just does not gaf and would rather fight giant 50ft space pterydactyls.

I picked up the Wii title. Still haven't played it yet because I hear shes a wuss in it.
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>>341762337
>bimbo curves

You mean she has boobs and a butt like every other woman?
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Fuck that, what about her feet?
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Because regular metroid threads either devolve into tubeposting, prime vs super faggotry, or other m false flagging

I'm a metroid fan but it is by far the worst fan base on /v/
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>>341762337
I think ZSS would have been better and made more sense if she was more solid snake-esque. Laying traps, being clever, etc. She should be faster and stronger in every way when shes in her power suit, and she should be gimped hugely when shes naked, so that she needs to use quick wits instead of brute force.

but no shes a fucking ninja and the suit only serves to slow her down apparently.
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Samus is CUTE

CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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There's nothing else to talk about. Other M is pretty much declared non-canon by everyone, and Metroid Prime is so old and done to death that no one talks about it anymore. Samus is now just a hot character in Smash, nothing more. Which is killer, since a decent writing staff and a decent studio could easily give her character a face-lift and we'd all go back to talking about how awesome she is while still fapping to fanart.
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>>341762719
>>341762750
>>341762908
But why do people keep talking about her ass, and not her face, her boobs her anything else?

Why is it her ass?
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>>341763063
arguably she's an ass first and a person second like most people
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>>341762623
You're delusional if you think that's the body of an average woman.
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Samus is just a sex icon.
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A whole game dedicated to ZSS would be the best game ever.
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>>341763063
Because 9/10 threads if not all of them are done by the same guy who clearly likes asses
It's not that hard to figure out, anon
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>>341762908
>Pregnant Samus

This is my fetish.
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>>341762314
Disrespectful to who? A fictional character can't feel disrespected.
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>>341763208
Is this what you call bimbo curves?

>>341763239
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If you haven't noticed anything remotely fuckable looking will be lusted after by a major part of /v/. People here are horny, it's not that odd.
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>>341763445
Obiously I'm talking about Smash Samus, cause you know that's what OP posted
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>>341763656
I call shopped.
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>>341761843
She is a sexual toy nothing else. When I was a kid I played Metroid on NES and had no idea it was a girl. The moment she stepped out of her armor was the moment she became a sexual toy.
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>>341763656
Sakurai did a damn good job with her facial expressions.
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>>341761843
>people who are horny tend to be sexually charged in particular ways.

Girl you need to get over your body image issues, if you dont have an ass, then you dont have an ass. If you want Johnny, and he is an ass man, then you aint got to think of another way to impress him. Try feeding him, guys love food, just look at all the samus picks where she is eating.
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>>341763239
Thick thighs and thick buttocks.

Do you think it's quantity or quality weight?
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>>341761843
zero 'samus' can die in a ditch

fuckin weeb pandering
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>>341764129
Fuck that, bitches need to do some squats
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>>341764486
>6'3''
Damn. She like an Amazoness (although not super buff for some reason)
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I want her to sit on my face!
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It's not like there is anything else to respect after Other M
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>>341764486
Compare this Samus to this one

>>341763239
OP, I think this is why people question whether her ass is athletic or not.

Because if I'm brutally honest now, it really doesn't look athletic in ZM.
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>>341761843
I'm not sure what word you were going for but "respected" sure as fuck wasn't it.
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>>341764486
People who seriously post that image are adorable
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>>341761843
>whiteknighting a fictional character

how far does the autism hole go
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Only here for porn don't give a fuck what you got to say OP.
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>>341761843
Shut the fuck up Sybb.
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>>341762102
games?
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>>341765225
It's from the Super Metroid guide, what's wrong with it?
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>>341761843
/v/ is the only place that talks about her fucking body instead of games. Everyone else just wants a new fucking Metroid game that is good.
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>>341765743
They don't even talk about her body, they talk about her ASS.
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>>341765225
Why?
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>>341765225
It's from an official Nintendo published guide.
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you know what gets me hard?

sci-fi armor and mecha designs
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>>341763239
Kill yourself
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>>341764486
This raises the question of how is she able to raise her arms
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This image has never been more relevant
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>>341766036
aw yiss fucking gets me there
bonus points for android jones artwork
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>>341761843

She is no longer a bounty hunter

She is just some barbie doll fucctoi
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>>341765848
Fuck off Sybb, we just want a new game you dipshit.
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>>341766332
Do you think Samus's ass is grabable?
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ive been asked before if i would ever stick my dick in a power suit. my answer is only if it has an overly complicated mechanical receptacle to accommodate my manhood.
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skintight suits are the best
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>>341766596
You tell me
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sometimes i like big suits.
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>>341762337
its funny that zero suit samus is strong at smash,,, its supposed to be her weakest form, while inside the power suit she can destroy planets
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Hasn't had a good game in a while so the only thing useful about this bitch is her body
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>>341767201
For some reason, that looks believable.
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>>341765225
>people think Super Metroid is cannon
>people think any Metroid after Metroid 2 is cannon

Sakamoto killed Metroid with his waifu-insertion.

Original Samus was inspired by Ripley. Samus was never suppose to be a dumb blonde.

Metroid Prime 1 Samus is the closest appropriate Samus we can hope for.

Prime Hunters the best "inbetween" choice.
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>>341767201
otp
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>>341761843
shes canonically an autistic half alien "bounty hunter" who literally DOES IT FOR FREE. Basically the only thing she ever had going for her was that shes an attractive woman.
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>>341765225
>posts something official
>faggot will literally unironically will try to argue that official stuff is wrong.
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>>341767401
Samus never really destroyed planets in Super it was a fail safe, in Fusion she change sent the BSL Station on a collision course, Prime 3 the aurora unit became Phaze's core and merged with Dark Samus.
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>>341763063
Because everyone on /v/ is a nigger who only likes asses, I guess.
I'm a tits man, myself. You can't go wrong with sucking on nipples or a good titfuck.
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>>341765713
>>341765916
>>341765971
>It's from an official Nintendo published guide.
Yeah, for the American strategy guide, which at the time was made by Nintendo Power
If you seriously take some Nintendo Power drawing as canon over material straight from the source at Nintendo from Japan then I'll just tell you that you that you are a little dumb
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>>341767774
Trying to decanonized the best Metroid game, trying to say the FPS shit is a real Metroid game that's more canon then a real Metroid game. Get the Fuck Out.
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>>341761843
Yeah, and you can blame Nintendo for that since they ruined her character in Other M.
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>>341767774
>Super Metroid
>dumb blonde
What?
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>>341765518
lol what games? Last good Metroid game was released 9 years ago. The last good 2D game was released 12 years ago.
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>>341767913
It can be pretty good
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>>341766036
>>341766335
MP2's aesthetic gets me hard in the pants as well.
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>>341769532
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Zero Suit was a mistake
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>>341769672
Can you get any cooler than this?
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>>341769852
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why did they add a mole to her face? she didn't have one for 20 years, and now she magically has one after prime 3 or something

what happened?

>2b in nier has a mole too
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>>341769825
I like it when a girl is wearing a catsuit underneath some normal clothes
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>>341769980
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>>341768210
Sakamoto wasn't in charge of the gameplay that made Super Metroid (or any Metroid).

Nice try though.

>>341768625
being illiterate
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>>341764486

This image is retarded. The fact of the matter is the power suit is not designed as if an actual person be inside of it.

Look at how stretched out her neck is just to be level with the Visor.

The width of the chest is far too great in almost all designs of the Varia suit, as if the arms were separate from the main body.

In that image she litterally won't be able to move her arms.
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>>341763292
Oh really?
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>>341768667
don't memind me!

>12 years ago
really? I'm 24, that means I'v waited half of my life for a new 2d metroid
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>respecting fictional characters

Please commit suiseiseki
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>>341770339
power suit isn't all that good, but I do like the representation of Samus
after all we know the sort of shit she does, it would make a hell of a lot of sense for her to have a highly athletic build
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>>341761843
>Samus is only respected for her body now?
Welcome to /v/. They sexualize all women, even cute ones like touhou.
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Is Samus an individualist anarchist?
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>>341770593

That isn't a highly athletic build though, you just like plain mid 30's girls like all the other people that obsess over prime Samus.
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>>341770104
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>>341770925
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>>341771045
Enough smut for now.
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>>341771190
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>>341761843
She actually has great tits and hips too, it's just that ass lovers are more outspoken.
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>>341769301
Does Samus enjoy helping out smaller guys?
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Is this an athletic build?
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>>341771794
Sure
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>>341770281
>Director of Super, Fusion, Zero Mission
>Designed original Metroid map
Fuck off Primefag, I can agree with you with Other M but you can take your FPS shit and shove it up your ass were it belongs. Nintendo should decanonize the Prime series and Other M since both do a good job fucking up the lore and not fitting. Who knew the day would come when we would have shitheads shitting on the 2D games, fucking pathetic.
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Considering how much people here enjoy cinematic experiences like Bayonetta and Xenoblade and Metal Gear, it's clear that /v/ doesn't have an interest for women protagonists, unless they're sexualized and constantly in sexy clothing. Of course, they can't have problematic gameplay getting in the way either. That's why Metroid has become hated as of late. The game never relied on 50,000 hours of cutscenes and cinematics and "plot" to get its gameplay across. So how could the fans masturbate to the fanservice with all this darn gameplay in the way?

In a way, the fans wanted a game like Metroid: Other M. They loved it. You can deny it all you want, but Sakamoto gave you exactly what you wanted: a submissive waifu Samus who stripped down every other cutscene, and they even gave you a theatre mode so you didn't have to do anything "videogamey" and you could jack off to her skintight latex.
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>>341763656
>using shitty shops instead of just modding
this is a real ingame image
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>>341765225
Especially when they're just people with an amazon fetish who try to hide behind an appeal to practicality.
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>>341771794
>>341772114
If that's an athletic body, my name is Bill Cosby.
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>>341764486
If Metroid were practical the suit would be empty.
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Not enough people draw her in her other outfits.
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>>341773173
What's wrong with it, Bill Cosby?
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>>341762908
ywn raise a baby with Samus
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>>341772998
not everything is a fetish you fuck, it would be nice to see a bounty hunter actually look the part

nintendo decided that sex sells so degenerates like yourself could whack off to this shit
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>>341773692
It doesn't matter if Samus were a 6'3 amazon or a 5'3 anime waif because she would still be 100% dependent on the suit either way.

People get too hung up on this shit.
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>>341773692
>bounty hunter actually look the part

are you implying you can't be attractive and be a bounty at the same time?

is samus suppose to be a buffed up dyke?
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>>341773591
People are just sugarcoating it because it's Samus.

She has a J-Lo ass. Not a Kim Kardashian ass, but a J-Lo ass. And everyone knows J-Lo's ass isn't athletic.
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>>341763063
Niggers
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>>341774460

>are you implying you can't be attractive and be a bounty at the same time?
Not him, but I'm just saying: Metroid: Other M turned her into an attractive, submissive waifu. Metroid Prime made her a badass warrior.

So naturally, anything related to turning a character into a waifu is cancerous poison for video games.
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>>341772474
I like making shitty shops though
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>>341774460
Not that guy, ignoring the Orime games as I always do, is hot, sexy, attractive, and toned. Samus is this in all 2D Metroids and Smash 4 whether some people like it or not(GF_Sybb)/Prime fans.
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>>341774460
Yes
This is how she should look
Thanks to people like you and your waifu pandering now she looks like shit
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>>341774460
zs looks like she'd break her ankle in battle

attractiveness doesn't matter, but at least make her have some damn muscle to show that the chozo trained her as a soldier and not a housewife
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>>341774928
that's a man, baby
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>>341774564
I seriously didn't think anything could be bigger than her gigantic boobs. But it seems I was wrong.
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>>341774897
*Prime games
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>>341774897

>Samus is this in all 2D Metroids and Smash 4 whether some people like it or not
That's why all of those games are heavily flawed, if not outright garbage, especially Super "35 dollars of DLC" brothers.
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>>341768187
>Implying
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>>341774963
That's an actual bounty hunter and not that neo nintendo bimbo shit
That is the logical evolution of her design should have gone
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There's nothing wrong with Samus being an anime waifu so long as she's an 80's anime waifu.

That's what the 2D games did before Zero Mission and everyone was fine with it.
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>>341774945
I guess this Kurdish solider needs some muscle.

I mean look at her she looks like she can break her wrist.
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>>341774667
>2D
Attractive, athletic

>Prime
Dyke

>Other M
Submissive bitch
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>>341762192
No, what's dragging her badassery is the retarded retcon they did and how they tried to shove a terrible backstory down our throats. Everybody used to know her as the kickass bounty hunter who gave no fucks. Now everybody remembers her for "THE BABY".
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>>341775234
she's probably dead
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>>341774667
Because she wasn't attractive before Other M right?
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>>341775075
>2D
>flawed
>not all of that 3D shit
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>>341775150
That's with her armor on you stupid faggot.

Now, have some ass.
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>>341775269
>>341775398

>2D
Attractive, athletic
And the more they focused on sexualizing her and expanding on her """""character""""" the worse the gameplay got. Infact, having her out of her suit at any point, even at the end of the game, was a mistake that should've never happened.

For example, Super Metroid is better than Metroid, because among other things it only has a small section at the end showing her out of her suit, whereas Metroid has that dumb Justin Bailey Code. Zero Mission and Fusion feature a hundred endings where you can ogly Samus like a sex doll, and they're both rehashed trash as a result, brimming with linearity and no challenge whatsoever. No thought put into level design or enemy AI or the equipment you find.

I don't even want to discuss the cringe-worthy metal gear segment near the end of Zero Mission.
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>>341774667
She was always attractive though, so the only thing is that Other M made her more submissive. She was probably a waifu to some before ZS became a thing and then she acquired a lot more fans.

In either case, I think the ZS or other undergarments should go back to being a reward for clearing the game - the less screen time, the better. I'm not even sure if a ZS section of a new game (like how Zero Mission handled it) would be appreciated at this point. More time should be spent trying to reestablish Samus a fearless, but highly respected bounty hunter with an indomitable will. Her physical appeal shouldn't come first in any case, although it is something that is always present albeit behind a helmet and armor.
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>>341775770

>In either case, I think the ZS or other undergarments should go back to being a reward for clearing the game
I don't think that's going far enough. It should be exorcised from the series altogether as the ugly, bloated tumor that it is. After Other M, nobody should ever see Samus out of her suit again. I consider it suitable punishment for the waifu kiddies who thought gameplay was too "videogamey" and that Samus was only there as a sex object to be gazed over.
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>>341775690
>2D
>athletic
Zero Mission Samus's ass says hi.
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>>341775591
Were we not about to have the retarded height debate again? If not, I apologize.

Have some muscles.
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>>341775150
What is that supposed to prove?
If you think I was arguing for her height then you are wrong
The fact that you focused solely on the height tells me that guy who accused people who defend that drawing of liking amazonian women is right
That other guy who posted the picture was implying that she should look like that ugly drawing because it is not weeb shit according to him
We also don't know if Samus is actually 1'90 without her suit or not, so if she really is that tall without her suit is just speculation
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>>341771365
I am erect

Those snail shell shoulder pads are sick
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>>341776180
Have it your way.

Have some more muscles.
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>>341775234
She probably does

Pro-tip: A uniform and rifle don't automatically make someone combat worthy
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>>341775591
Samus is 6"1 without the suit.
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>>341776253
The image starts an argument about her height every time it's posted. Sorry I tried to head it off early.

I have no opinion on amazons, just an autist for canon.
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>>341775690
>complaining about a code
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>341776806
>Pro-tip: A uniform and rifle don't automatically make someone combat worthy
But a magic robot suit made by the most advanced race in the galaxy does.
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>>341774928
Redesigns that remove the shoulder pads are bad and the artists should be shot.

Why are people so intent on ruining the most iconic part of the suit after the visor only to replace it with their shitty generic ideas. This one even fucks the visor up too.

orbs are love orbs are life
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>>341777257
No, her Chozo training does you fuckwit.
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>>341776905
Source? or are you just making an estimate based on sprites?
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>>341776149
Why did they make her ass so fucking HUGE?

Why did they make her thighs rub together?

Why did they get rid of her muscles?

She basically looks like a blond bimbo with an overweight ass.
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>>341777474
Girl abs will not protect you from being submerged in acid or exposed to the vacuum of space or getting shot with an energy weapon.

I know it's been a while since they made one, but do try to remember what Metroid games are actually about.
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>>341777257
>But a magic robot suit made by the most advanced race in the galaxy does.
I'd say yes
She has the most advanced technology and weapons of the whole galaxy. She will always have a big advantage in any fight because of it
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>>341776806
I guess these girls aren't combat worthy.

I'll have to call Shlomo and let him know.
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>>341768667

> Last good Metroid game was released 9 years ago.
>The last good 2D game was released 12 years ago.

My god, that's unbelievably sad.
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>>341777526
Here is your source you retarded cunt.
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>>341761843
Holy shit go back to polygon
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>>341777767
>I guess these girls aren't combat worthy.
Maybe if they're fighting other girls, but otherwise no. Call schlomo.
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>>341777767
Top left and bottom middle are the only qties.

Maybe the one behind bot mid.
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>>341777919
Do I really need to repeat my last post?
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>>341777767
Is the dude in the bottom right related to Chris Evans?
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>>341778479
idk but i would fuck both of them
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>>341777620
Training = Soldier

Suit = Supplement
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How come you always get people trying to prove that Samus being 6'3 is canon but you never get people doing the same for her 106 inch tits even though that's an official measurement from her designer?
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>>341761843
Nintendo's fault for not making a decent Metroid game this decade. Frankly at this point they'd be better off dropping hardware entirely and just becoming a game studio. They just don't seem to have any intention of making hardware on par with current gen systems or PCs.
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>>341772450
>brings up bayonetta
>So how could the fans masturbate to the fanservice with all this darn gameplay in the way?
You undercut your own argument in the first paragraph like the underageb& you are.
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>>341769301
>cropped porn
fuck you
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>>341761843
I care about Samus more than her ass but it's not like there's a new game coming out and I'm an assman. I would destroy that tight hole. Destroy. As in I would put a great big strip of tape or something over her cunt and just fuck her ass over and over and over. That's the only hole I would use.

Give me a new game, Nintendo.
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>>341778839

i don't think I stuttered. When a game focuses on fanservice and story, there is no gameplay.
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>>341778634
>inches
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>>341778870
Found it, senpai.

https://tineye.com/search/bff64ea3212749b9226cdbbc59ef435ecf7b35dc/
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>>341767201
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>>341761843
Are you not, by proxy, one of those posters talking about Samus' ass by making a thread about how people talk about her ass?
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>>341778590
But in this case the soldier would not be able to accomplish anything at all without the supplement.

The suit is the true star of the show.
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>>341778368
Do the measurements yourself I already did.
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>>341779113
already found it on gelbooru anyways, but thanks
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>>341779060
Oh shit I meant centimeters.

Well fuck there goes my NASA job.
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>>341778839

This means that people don't play those games for the gameplay. They only do it for the story. Otherwise, why would xenoblade and bayonetta threads only contain cropped porn, or people discussing the story? Not a single post about gameplay, that's for sure.
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when was the last metroid game
when was the last good metroid game
nintendo's fault obviously
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>>341779046
>bayonetta doesn't have good gameplay
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>>341779239
Samus is the suit; the suit is Samus - much like Tony Stark and Iron Man
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>>341779641

Look at Metacritic if you don't believe me. You know how game journalists like polygon and IGN hate challenging games and want things to be more "movie like"? Well, guess who gave Bayonetta overwhelmingly positive reviews?
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Both are at fault, the players for their terrible taste and Nintendo for encouraging it.
The second I saw ZSS in Brawl I knew the franchise was fucked.
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>>341779752
And the Master Chief.
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>>341779239
we're talking about her out of the suit senpai

but truly samus and her training vs her suit are 50/50 in terms of equally needing each other
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>>341772474
Too bad they can't fix the hexagonal fucking ass or blurry textures
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>>341779752
Counterpoint: The only good Iron Man story is Hypervelocity and that was about the suit realizing that it didn't actually need Tony anymore.

The human element needs to be removed from Metroid.
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>>341779768
You are seriously making this argument?
I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it for myself. That said, yes, you can beat the game easily enough on normal/easy mode. Just because a game doesn't start at a brick wall like DMC3 did doesn't mean it doesn't have good gameplay. It's why Bayonetta was a staple of the CURAHZEY general's skill vids.
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>>341779985
not falling for your shit clanker scum
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http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=18620.0
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>>341779985
Good thing Samus isn't entirely human
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>>341779985
>The human element needs to be removed from Metroid
at this point I wouldn't even care

Samus' mind inside a fully cybernetic body? yosh!
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>>341780073

You still didn't address my argument, which is something /v/ universally agrees on.

game journalsts, aka the people who can't even play doom properly, were about to beat Bayonetta on its hardest difficulty settings. So how is it not a movie game?
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>>341780320
I haven't played much Bayo so I don't remember but if it's like other platinum games then dying isn't actually punished much outside of the rank you get.

Just "beating" it doesn't mean shit.
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>>341780320
>beat Bayonetta on its hardest difficulty settings
Cite that.
Show me a review that said that the reviewers could be the game on the hardest difficulty (that needs to beaten on normal first).
I don't see a reviewer beating the game on infinite climax unless they were actually good at the game, regardless of whatever meme website you decide to spout out.
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>>341780156
I am totally fine with some alien material floating around inside of an empty suit.
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>>341780579

>Just "beating" it doesn't mean shit.
Then the game isn't worth it. Relying on extras and achievements and gamer scores just means that your game is weak and might as well just be Uncharted or Call of Duty.
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>>341780715
How about Earthworm Jim?
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>>341780579

>dying isn't actually punished so you can experience the "Story" and "cinematics"

Hmmmm..... where have I heard that before?
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>>341780779
You are outing yourself as a hardcore games for hardcore gamers like myself memester.
>>341781147
DMC has no penalties for dying either. Your time continues to rack up tho.
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>>341772248
How does Prime fuck up the lore? It's set between 1/Zero Mission and Return of Samus in a big empty zone where more games can easily fit. It never did what Other M did and retcon/ignore every other game in the franchise to push Sakamoto's personal fanfiction.

Seriously, you people are the ones who need to calm your tits.
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>>341781298

>You are outing yourself as a hardcore games for hardcore gamers like myself memester

What is wrong with that? Being hardcore is good for a game.

The problem is when you discard a game because it looks too "kiddy". Then you risk being a "mature games for mature gaymers" fella. But I don't have a problem with the graphical style. I just have a problem with it being a cinematic experience.
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>>341781298
>DMC has no penalties for dying either
Aside from lowering your score in DMC1 and DMC3 yellow orb mode if you die you restart the whole chapter
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>>341777767
Show me a video of one completing a one hundred meter dash in full plate and combat load with a loaded rifle and I'll care.
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>>341761843
I want to rim samus asshole
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Outside Smash, has Samus had anything decent in recent years, in an medium at all? It's a damn shame. The Prime series got me into Metroid, and the old games are magical, and for all its sins, even Other M lets us see more of the Galactic Alliance and the setting with some pretty CGI scenes.

To this day, one of the few Figma models I own is Samus in the Varia suit. Shit, she deserves better than being sexy, sexy fanservice in a fighting game.
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>>341774928
Go back to NeoGAF and take that shitty pic with you
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>>341775161
>I'm unable to accept that a FICTIONAL person in a VIDEO GAME can be both attractive AND badass, only ugly people can be badass!
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>>341783391
This so much. That Eroquis doujin only heightens the urge to tongue punch her in the fart box.
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>Samus will never make fun of your tiny penis
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>>341785689
Samus isn't the type to do that.

I swear waifufags just want a prostitute in a mask.
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>>341784842

>I'm unable to accept that a FICTIONAL person in a VIDEO GAME can be both attractive AND badass,
Again, look at Metroid Other M and tell me that Samus "Crybaby" Aran is badass in the slightest.
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would all you anons cum inside a zero suit so I can wear it...
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>>341786757
How about you look at all the other Metroid games instead of doing what Sakamoto did and completely ignore them while obsessing over the character assassination fanfiction.
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>>341762314
>disrespectful
Stop being autistic
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>>341785689
Pretty sure there's a cucking Samus that loves to do this in the Trash ERP threads
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>>341786757
Nice cherrypicking. Zero Mission Samus is the same Samus as ever, except now you can see her good looks.
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>>341787089

>How about you look at all the other Metroid games
Okay. Let's see; the best Metroid game to ever exist was the first Prime game, which completely got rid of the Zero Suit, even as an ending treat.

So that tells me with 100% certainty that sex fanservice ruins gameplay, and the absence of it leads to a better game. Not even Super Metroid is as good because of that disgusting bit at the end of the game.
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>>341787135
Dammit, I fell for the bait.
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>>341787424

>uh oh, I have no rebuttal! I'll call it bait so I don't have to think up a counterargument
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>>341779046
>bayonetta
>there is no gameplay
This epic image again
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>>341787135
So the only Metroid game where Samus is both attractive and a badass is the one where you barely see any of her because if you can see any part of someone's body then they're no longer badass.

You're a very special kind of retard, like that guy who goes into Kingdom Hearts threads and rages about women being shown as anything other than weak breeding tanks who need to be in the kitchen and silent.
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>>341784486
>rape
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>>341784486
>same artist that did erosuit samus
gonna rip my dick so badly because of this
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>>341783391
don't we all?
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>>341787546

If it supposedly had good gameplay, then why does it have hour upon hour of cutscenes? Surely the gameplay would speak for itself and wouldn't need this cinematic taint ruining it, right?

>>341787570

>So the only Metroid game where Samus is both attractive and a badass is the one where you barely see any of her because if you can see any part of someone's body then they're no longer badass.
That's not what I'm saying. The argument is that your game is only good if 100% of it is dedicated to making the gameplay good, having a good payoff, and etc. When your game is pushing cinematics or sex fanservice via CGI and flimsy costumes, that's money and time not going into the gameplay. You can see this in the stark contrast between Metroid Prime (no cinematics and no sex fanservice) and Metroid Other M (a mode dedicated entirely to skipping the gameplay and watching the cutscenes).

With the amount of hate /v/ throws out against """games""" like TLOU and The Order 1886 for being cinematic experiences, I figured more people would see eye to eye with me here.
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>Ctrl+F
>tube, 1
>tuu, 0
TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES
MORE STEAM FILLED CORRIDORS
MORE PHAZON FOR THE DEADLY LIFE-DRAINING ORGANISMS
ANIMATE THE ROCKS WITH PHAZON
MORE DOORS THAT WE CAN'T OPEN
TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES
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>>341787896
no, I want her to rim mine
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Why can't Samus be a guy?
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>>341787937
It just has cutscenes in addition to it. The fact that you're just throwing out vague conjecture makes it obvious you haven't played it and are simply reposting an old shitpost image.

"Cinematic games" is more than just "lots of cutscenes" it's the bullshit lack of gameplay and walky-talk sections with boring ladder puzzles and such. Bayonetta 1/2 has fantastic combat with great enemy designs and cool weapons to switch between with a variety of movesets and sweet bosses. You can't just point to the amount of cutscenes and go "therefore the gameplay is bad!"
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>>341787937
Ah, so what you're raging about isn't what the subject of the thread is and just you venting about a personal issue that annoys you.

>if a game has cutscenes then it has no gameplay!

Maybe you should actually play those games before you start spewing verbal diarrhea from your face hole.
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>>341788084
There should be a man option for the next metroid
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>>341761843
Zero suit was an unequivocal mistake. I will brook no argument.
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>>341788302
>>341788281

>Bayonetta 1/2 has fantastic combat with great enemy designs and cool weapons to switch between with a variety of movesets and sweet bosses.
If that was true, then game journalists would hate it for being "too video gamey". Yet it has the exact same score as TLOU on metacritic, and we all know how bad that game is in the gameplay department. Besides which, if you ignored the game journalists, you'd still find both games laden with cancerous game design, be it quick time events, flashy action finishers, parts where you're not even playing the game and just waiting for the over-the-top action scene to finish, button mashing at random points, and overall things just dedicated to anything but the gameplay.

I'll say it again: if either TLOU or Bayonetta were good, they wouldn't have such long stories. An elongated plot is for games that need a crutch for their bad gameplay.
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>>341788620
Stop posting anytime
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>>341788620
So, according to you, games don't need stories at all, any story of any kind automatically means a game is bad, and any kind of story means no gameplay. Have you been raging about this state of affairs ever since the NES came out?
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>>341788620
I love how your argument is that the better it is, the worse scores it should get.

Yeah, games journalists are shit, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Sometimes people can play a good game and actually realise it's good.

Yet again your entire argument is based on conjecture "well if it WAS good them these people would hate it" and NOTHING to do with the actual gameplay. Stop chatting shit, you can be part of the conversation when you've actually played the gameplay.
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>>341761843
>Samus pre-Zero Mission
Wait, Samus is a girl?

>Samus post Zero Mission
Omg Samus so hot

Really the inclusion of zero suit in smash is what turned it but Nintendo isn't helping because the only games that have Samus in them now are ones where she's in a skintight leotard and not in her badass suit of armor.
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>>341788620
>Bayonetta 1/2 has fantastic combat with great enemy designs and cool weapons to switch between with a variety of movesets and sweet bosses.
>If that was true, then game journalists would hate it for being "too video gamey"
Your argument is "well uh that's not true because I don't know but they'd probably hate it"

You're fucking retarded.
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4chan does that with every female character. Even unattractive ones. You are just complaining about nothing.
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>>341788620
I didn't play bayonetta 2, but 1 has some of the better combat in the industry.
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>>341788862
>>341788934
>>341789201
>>341789090

Let me try and put this more simply: The only thing gameplay needs is CONTEXT. And that can be made pretty damn well with contextual clues and gameplay. Remember when games told the story THROUGH the gameplay, instead of interrupting the gameplay for an intrusive 10 hour cutscene?

>Have you been raging about this state of affairs ever since the NES came out?
I've found it true that the more story a game has, the less replayability it has. Let's see... ah, take Final Fantasy 6 for instance, and let's compare it to Gradius 3. One has unskippable cutscenes, several hundred thousand text boxes of dialog, and as a result has buggy and bland gameplay ruined by several hundred exploits and bugs that they never bothered to fix because they spent their entire budget on the story. The other is a nice little sidescrolling space shooter with almost no story, but infinitely replayable gameplay. No cutscenes to skip, no dialog to mash through, no voice acting, nothing. You tell me which game is better on both a technical level, and a gameplay level.

The point here: your game has no gameplay if it has too much story. Watching a cutscene is not gameplay. Skipping a cutscene is not gameplay. Asking me to button mash through a quick time event is technically gameplay, but by that logic a DVD menu would count as a game. Do you get it?
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>>341789548
And all of that is your persional opinion. I've played story-heavy games like Mega Man X Command Mission and any Final Fantasy game you can name start-to-finish many times because they're fun and I enjoy the gameplay. The stories may not be good sometimes but as long as it's fun and has good gameplay I don't care if the story's bad.
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>>341789548
Holy fuck try actually commenting on the gameplay. Go on, make actual criticism about the gameplay in a timely fashion.
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>>341789548
If pressing start a couple times a level to skip the cutscene is too much a price for some of the best combat in the industry then I just don't know what to tell you.
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>>341789548
DMC4 has two hours of cutscenes yet the most deep character kit for any singleplayer character ever.
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>>341789548
I'm with ya anon, but that's where games are heading desu
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>>341789847

>I've played story-heavy games like Mega Man X Command Mission and any Final Fantasy game you can name start-to-finish many times because they're fun and I enjoy the gameplay
But how can you enjoy the gameplay when half the games have unskippable cutscenes? Skippable was bad enough, but tolerable to a point. But you want me to unanimously praise games like FF10 when it has 10+ hours of cinematics, AND they're all unskippable? And for no reason, I might add?

I don't find that fun, and infact it's counter-intuitive to a VIDEO GAME, which involves interaction. When I'm spending large segments of time not interacting with your game, then you've made a severe miscalculation in what a GAME should be.

>>341790136
>>341790172

Button mashing, quick time events, flashy action finishers where you do nothing but watch the game play itself. Just to name a few problems of the first Bayonetta.

>if pressing start a couple times a level to skip the cutscene is too much a price for some of the best combat in the industry then I just don't know what to tell you.
You'll have to forgive me if I don't consider quick time events to be good, let alone "the best combat in the industry". I remember when that was called a gimmick crutch for games that didn't know how to have good gameplay.

>>341790275

>DMC4 has two hours of cutscenes
Completely unnecessary to the GAME, especially to someone who likes videogamey things, and not movies. So you can see why I find that wasteful.

>the most deep character kit for any singleplayer character ever.
I've seen far better in even indie games like La Mulana or Dwarf Fortress. No cinematics too.
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>>341788620
>>341787937
>Soulsfag tries playing other video games besides Souls games
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>>341790553
>La Mulana
>deeper character moveset than DMC4 Dante
You can stop talking out your ass now anon
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>>341790647
Soulsfags aren't like him, that guy has autism.
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>>341790553
Oh for fuck's sake, THERE IS GAMEPLAY IN ALL OF THOSE GAMES, BEING INTERRUPTED SOMETIMES BY CUTSCENES DOESN'T MEAN THERE ISN'T ANY AT ALL.
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>>341790553
Ok nevermind. You don't even know what makes good action combat. Fucking la mulana are you serious. Dwarf fortress? What the fuck man.
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