I don't get it.
Skyrim remaster, Are they only remastering it because of the new engine or is it because more people know about skyrim than previous games.
I just thought they would remaster everything at once then allow you to move your player from game to game like the tale of the two wastelands.
>>341716547
They're remastering it because it;s cheap to do and people will actually buy it on consoles.
It's as close to free money as they can get, why do you think the PC version will be free to current owners?
They just want to sell it to the idiots on the new consoles again - and that with the absolute minimum effort.
They're doing it because they're going to make a fuckton of money for very little effort.
>>341716547
>Are they only remastering it because of the new engine
same old engine, just new middleware stuff+console mods
>>341716547
They're running out of ideas and talent, so they're selling the same popular game twice.
money
>>341716784
>why do you think the PC version will be free to current owners?
Source? If true, I am 100% okay with them charging consoles a peasant tax.
64-bit will allow me to uše shitloads of script-intensive mods so I dont care. I want enhanced version of NV next
>>341717197
Todd Howard announced it on stage during E3
>>341716547
>new engine
people who think that this is a thing are the reason why game companies get away with making shit games and rake in trillions
>>341716784
>>341717197
Its free IF you have all the DLC
>Oblivion is 10 years old
>Would have made a much better candidate for being remastered
>"Fuck that noise people want the Elder Scrolls where being out in the wilderness is an ordeal, not because it's dangerous but because dragons take fucking forever to do anything"
>>341716547
>because of the new engine
It doesnt have a new engine you moron, it has new effects.
>new engine
Hahaha
They're pushing their paid mods in console again, that's all this is.
>>341717197
>>341717374
So? Why not just make skyrim remaster free then but..
Campain DLC's you've gotta pay for? Like War campains in the civil war and smaller dlc's?
>>341717507
Fallout 4 engine. They've updated it alot since skyrim.
You don't count the original id engine as the same engine that runs doom 3 do you?
>>341716547
Remaster with mod support, then release paid mods
>>341717436
You would need to remake the game idiot. With this they just gave their new studio a job to upgrade the engine and fix bugs that the swap caused.
>>341717507
It's 64-bit, you retard
>>341717749
But Skyrim isn't receiving an engine update.
>>341718541
http://archive.is/b5TMl
>>341718475
You're the idiot.
You can upgrade Oblivion's engine to Fallout 4's just the same as you can upgrade Skyrim's.
Just like Fallout 4 uses an upgraded Skyrim engine, Skyrim uses an upgraded Fallout 3 engine, which uses an upgraded Oblivion engine. It's literally all the same engine.
So it's free for PC but are they going to resell us all the DLC? Because fuck that
>>341718692
Yes, and?
Modders have already accomplished making the game 64bit. That doesn't mean modders gave the game a new engine, now does it? And neither has Bethesda.
>>341718541
>>341718692
They are and its simple to upgrade, you remove the code that references to an old engine then recompile for the new engine references.
E.g Lighting, the new system is better and produces a more realistic lighting and is faster than older lighting models.
>>341717749
They want to bring modding to console Skyrim. Console players are dependant on PC to create these mods.
>>341718707
So UE4 is the same as UE3, UE2 and the original Unreal Engine? Just like the Q3 engine is the same as the Q1 engine?
>>341716547
For easy money
>>341719176
Yes and No.
I'll explain why.
Unreal engine is kinda similar to UE4 engine however it lacks certain things like references to the original engine.
This may be but not limited to..
>Lighting
>Particles
>Brushes
>Etc
Now, They updated the file structure which means that things from the orginal game will need to be re-imported and then the scripts will need to be updated for things that are reference.
Particles will work as they have an older option.
Most things will, you've just gotta update those which don't.
>>341718915
>Modders have already accomplished making the game 64bit.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you? You just repeat what the other dumbasses on /v/ are saying to fit in.
>>341716547
>i just thought they would remaster everything at once
you can't possibly think like this right?
It's 64-bit, it has volumetric lighting and it also has physically based rendering
This is good for PC users because it'll remove modding restrictions/enhance vanilla graphics (meaning modded graphics will be even better) and console fags get it on current gen and receive modding support
>>341716547
probably moving it to the updated engine and making minor changes etc
the real reason is so they can sell it again on xbone/ps4
>allow you to move your player from game to game like the tale of the two wastelands.
how fucking stupid are you
>>341718915
>the /v/ experts in action
screencapped
>>341719626
>physically based rendering
What the hell does physics have to do with rendering.
It's free on PC, because it's no more impressive than a bunch of mods.
So wait, hypothetically I could just buy all the DLC without purchasing Skyrim itself and get Skyrim Remastered for free?
>>341720058
The dlc individually cost more than a legendary edition on sale.
>>341720058
Are you retarded?
>>341719920
And that's pretty much what Todd said to Sessler. Even he admits this thing is just for consoles.
>>341720108
>>341720125
I just wanted to know if that was the case for shits and giggles.
>>341717431
All the DLC for a 5 year old game that despite what /v/ more people enjoyed than disliked.
Also the DLC that is still pretty cheap to pick up and will without a doubt be on the steam summer sale soon.
Jesus you're such a fucking jew.
>>341720383
Or if you live in Israel you could just pirate the DLC since they are basically mods
>>341716547
its a new engine, yet its almost the same.
They should had ported/remade oblivion and morrowind in f4 engine too.
being able to complete all of the quest with the same character, traveling between provinces would be really cool.
64 bit and DX11 paves the way for even better looking mods
But they're mainly releasing it for consoles for easy money
>>341716547
cuz PC modders did all the work for them.
>>341720536
Seeing this kind of makes me wish they'd remaster the first 3 Elder Scrolls games into one convenient package.
"Elder Scrolls: Beginnings" or something.
Seriously, You faggots will cry that getting to use more than 4gb of memory is a bad thing? FUcking cyncal fags
>>341720695
Why would you want to play Arena, it's not good
>>341720383
>Also the DLC that is still pretty cheap to pick up and will without a doubt be on the steam summer sale soon.
Except when they do a switcheroo on Legendary edition, into the remaster edition and treat it as it's own title.
>>341720809
They could always remaster it to be bearable.
They are remastering it because it's extremely cost-effective and a guaranteed seller, OP.
>>341720919
You mean remake it you stupid fucking American. Learn the goddamn difference between remaster and remake
>>341720809
Arena isn't THAT bad.
It's generic, the story is barely interesting and the movement and combat are slightly atrocious, but it could very well be remastered.
Daggerfall on the other hand is 10/10 perfect as it is, they don't have to do anything to it.
>>341720919
There's nothing special about it. Except that technically it's all of Tamriel I guess
>>341716547
I honestly am happy they do and everyone and their dog has skyrim on fucking steam already so its pretty much just an upgrade
the better ram support etc is probably the best and not the updated vanilla graffix
Meanwhile on PC
>>341720383
That Skyrim is so highly regarded just tells me there's a lot of easily impressed people on this planet, who must be incredibly fucking boring people at that, to be entertained by a product so irredeemably soulless and mediocre.
>>341719513
Oh look at mister self aware know it all redditard here.
Go suck Howard's balls dry you faggot.
>consolefags have to wait 5 years and spend full retail for mods
loving every laugh
>>341721159
with 9 loaded Ugrids and LOD is still ass even with dyndolod. 64bit will actually let you increase Ugridstoload and have satibilty
>>341721007
>9 loaded Ugrids.
What do finnish people have to do with this?
>>341716547
>Bethesda
>new engine
Don't tell me you fell for his lies
>>341720695
we have a product for you, it's called Xbox 360.
>>341721415
>stability in a bethesda game
suuuure
>shadows most likely won't be fixed so that they're done by gpu instead of cpu
>>341721159
>1 fps
>>341722317
T. a meme connoiseur that does not actually play bethesda games.
>>341720871
Huh?
Just get the game and dlc separately, then...?
>>341722478
>>341719885
>What the hell does physics have to do with rendering.
Over-simplifying here but PBR is just a term for a standardized method for Materials (the relevance there being that a Material designed in Substance Designer or the like will look the same in UE4, Unity, etc)
>>341722658
>having fallout installed
>not launcing skyrim through steam
Thanks for proving me right dickwipe
>>341722579
>Huh? Now that you've already bought the Standard + DLC plus Legendary, just go ahead and buy Remastered + the DLC again
You disgust me
>>341716547
They started fallout 4 development by porting skyrim to the new consoles. So now they have finsinshed porting it since they decided to sell as to make profit and not let that time porting akyrim to current gen go to wastes.
So it really is just easy money for work they did in modfying the engine they have used since fucking morrowind to sell off to dumb nerds.
>>341722965
You're a bit of a retard, aren't you?
Special ed. done early today?
>>341722965
Why the fuck would you launch through Steam if you're using Script Extender?
>>341722379
wat
So when is the PC getting the remastered version?
>>341723482
in 2011
>>341721159
looks shite, mate
>>341723216
Because it works if steam ingame community is turned on you stupid fucking asswipe
>>341723669
Shouldn't you be getting ready for work or something, American?
>>341721159
cool, could you record it in action?
>>341723526
>>341723004
You stupid fucking whore. You just need one or the other. Base + DLC or Legendary. It's not hard you dumb slut.
>tfw I can get it free on pc
>tfw I'll still buy it on console because console gaming is more comfy
>>341716547
>Skyrim remaster
Stop calling it a remaster. Not even Bethesda is calling it a remaster.
>>341719480
and also update an entire massive game's worth of art assets as opposed to just re-using the hires texture pack you already have on hand
I actually thought they just upped the graphics a bit for the new consoles. Didn't really look much different anyway.
>>341721290
Dude chill, not even him, you are wrong, just stop
>>341716547NEW ENGINE PLUS DX12 PLUS MODS = WHO GIVES A FUCK ANYWAYS
>>341724570
retard maximus
>>341724957
I know I'm retarded, but money is no object, it's like a days wages for me.
>>341720383
The legebdary edition with all the dlc was like 20 buck a year or two ago that's worth it
>>341724735
>same game but ported over to fallout 4's upgraded engine
>upgrade is unchanged. in fact its so similar that the saves from the old version should workhttps://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/743170497752371200
It's a remaster fuck off.
>>341724570
Nigga just fucking plug your computer into a TV with a controller. You can have comf + computer + couch
>>341716547
it's probably to get their team accustomed to making a Skyrim scale game on new console hardware. they're working on TES6, more than likely this is a test run of sorts to see what they'll be able to do and what consoles can't handle.
>>341722658
These are stable though
Fallout 3 and NV had issue same with oblivion
Not STALKER issue but still
>>341725040
>i'm a retard with money
you know those poorfucks at the streets asking for money because they burned it in shit?
well. enjoy your future
>>341716547
ES6 is 10 years away, they need quick cash to fund their incompetent development.
Praise Todd.
>>341725219
>Buy one game
>future ruined
great meme
>>341724937
DX12 IS SHIT
>>341725181
>I know jack shit about game development: the post
>>341725346
>tfw i bought 5 MHU and 4 psp
my future must in ruins
>>341725181
>a skyrim scale game
>>341716547
It's a business strategy called "Ever Greening"
You take a piece of intellectual property and re-sell it under the pretext you have a new or superior product.
Thus you can continue to extract monopoly profits.
>>341725359
>i have no argument: the post
>>341725474
wow it's almost like game development is different now than it was nearly 20 years ago
>Want to replay Skyrim again.
>Now have to wait for this come out or I'll replay it all over again in a few months.
Isn't it free anyways for people who already bought the dlc and the game
>>341721159
I always want to get skyrim and mod it to that level, but then I remember how annoying the process is and give up. Plus, I got a shitty 660ti, so I'd probably get around 20-30fps. I'll probably do it once I get that new amd card for $200 :D
>>341718707
They already explained that they literally already had the game ported to the new consoles when they were developing FO4. Not to mention that Oblivion would be a much bigger undertaking even if it is the same engine. They'd have to redo all the animation, every texture and every model would have to be done from the ground up, remaster the audio and maybe hire more than 6 voice actors, etc etc.
>>341726186
>around 20-30fps
>660ti
You'd get 7
>>341726186
the only real pain is installing dyndolod
>>341725636
I don't have to make a fucking argument when it's evident to every mongoloid how wrong you are. They don't need to make a full release game to discover console capabilities, they are a AAA developer with a lot of resources and can make a game on next gen consoles just fine. They have enough internal testing and resources to discover this without making a full game (that ISNT tes6) and fucking releasing it. You are clearly just young and don't know enough about how video games are actually made. Anyone with a brain can see you're wrong and I just didn't feel like explaining it to you. 2/10 made me respond.
>>341726257
Most likely haha
i bought skyrim on xbox waaaaay back then, and probably bought it for ps3 again when i got rid of the box. I have it on PC now and I never play games on my pc anyway, fuck skyrim. i thought oblivion was better
This game isn't even 5 years old
Why is it getting remastered?
Why are remasters the new 'thing' for developers to do?
It's barely even a change.
>>341717197
>Peasant tax
I wish I was 12 again...
>>341727478
Build a time machine and go back one year then, faggot
Skyrim the the most popular single player game out there. Not making it available for the current gen consoles would be just stupid.
>>341727478
i was actually going to reply to him saying i laughed at that, even though i'd buy it. i never take shit seriously here
>>341727478
Time flies when you're a faggot.
>>341717749
War campains in the civil war and smaller dlc's?
what the fuck does that mean? there are only 3 dlc, none of them are about civil war and you can buy them for pennies on steam sale or any keysite.
>>341727557
savage
>>341725181
fallout 4 is that game, dumbass.
>>341721159
realer then real life
>>341726186
You can make it look nice with a 480 but you're not going to make it look like that at a playable frame rate. Also get 8 gigs.
>can run skyrim
>can't run fallout 4
banic
>>341717431
How have you not gotten it all on a steam sale yet?
>>341717436
Oblivion and morrowin would be terrible. It would be a remake instead of a remaster because they would move it to the current engine and not care about staying true to the original.
>>341718710
No dlc is included but you only get it free if you bought the dlc for the original skyrim. Otherwise you get nothing.
>>341720173
Is the HD going to be any better then the community HD textures? Or the custom lighting effect available? Are they honestly just going to copy the community shit and sell it?
theyre just exploiting console babbies
make it look better and add the ability to use mods and sell it at $60 again - instant goty
>>341721159
Looks nice. Too bad the game is shit.
>>341722658
>playing the two worst games in the two series
(w)ew
So this remaster is basically a mod with better graphics and mod support?
>>341727557
Well done for being part of a corporate tactic that plays on your need to feel superior to other consumers, simply because of the system you choose.
Screen Grab from the Remaster Trailer.
>>341730925
Just imagine fighting bandits in piss.
>>341730925
ahahaahhah petty
>>341730925
My game at the same location without an ENB.
>WITHOUT
>ENB
Let that sink in. My game from 2011 that runs at 60 FPS with no dips looks better (and judging by FO4) and will run better than the Remaster that adds Brown, Bloom, Volumetric Fog, and God Rays. What the shit was Bethesda doing?
>>341731058
>only 1080p
>all that aliasing
>>341716547
They remastered it because it was cheap and easy
All I remember from the trailer is New Shaders + Console Mods
Oblivion or Morrowind would need a complete overhaul and a ton of work done, but you can slap a fresh coat of paint on skyrim and still make profit because of how little it cost to refurb
>>341716547
They're remastering it because there's a new console generation
PC is getting it too because why not? They're not even charging people who already own it
>>341718915
Yep, this is the most retarded thing I've read all day
>>341716547
Remastered implies you mastered something.
Kek
>>341730634
If you own a console you deserve it. Especially if you want to buy a shitty game that doesn't even look better than the pc version did 5 years ago.
>>341732472
Look's aren't everything, friend. Anyway I never said I'm going to buy it. I only made a comment about the childish mentality of thinking you know best how others should play.
Whats the fuckin point, im completely done with skyrim now, it was fun for a while but the thought of playing through it again is just awful
Like I said in another thread
I loved skyrim despite it being very unfinished, so I'll give the remaster a playthrough to see it with new graphics and maybe some new content, though that's unlikely.
Skyrim was very expensive to make. Bethesda is reluctant to invest even more money making another tes game as big or bigger than skyrim. So they're hoping this will keep fans happy for a couple years while they figure out what to do.
