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Kamiya is done. His career is over. He should have not spend
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Kamiya is done. His career is over.
He should have not spend so much time on twitter, what a fucking idiot, seriously, he was such a great director in the past generations.

YOU SCREWED UP KAMIYA.
How did you get from Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, Resi2,3, and Bayonetta to this fucking piece of average shit with ass shit animations and dialogues?

Fucking over, I give up my hopes on Kamiya.
He is like the video game version of Brian DePalma and Francis Ford Coppola.
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>>341713732
QUE TE JODAN
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>>341713797
fuck you too
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>Forgetting W101

Also the game isn't out yet.
>b-but you just know!
Yeah, like with Doom?
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It's all JP Kellams fault, he's in charge of localization and awful dialogues of Kamiya games. Since bayo 2 his writing has decayed to unbearable levels.
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>>341716392
I'd believe it. Drew was fine in the first gameplay demo but he literally won't shut the fuck up at the E3 demo
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>>341713732
I thought this looked fun...
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>>341713732
Promotions in the videogame industry have been a problem for decades.

The reason Platinum even has a Z team is because nobody had to compete with Kamiya. The more time he spent away from game design, the worse he became.
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>>341713732
BLOCKED
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>>341717238
But all his games are good, though
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>>341713732
>Implying that Platinum aren't just making this game for the sweet Microsoft dosh they're getting
>Implying that they give two shits about this turd
Did you not see how incredibly bored Kamiya was when he was presenting it? He clearly doesn't give a fuck about it.
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>>341713732
Why does he have the JUST hair?
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>>341713732
>Making a bad game means that the Director is bad at making games
No, that isn't necessarily true. Use some critical thinking, my man.
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>>341714865
>the wonderful 101 copies
LOL fuck off nintenbabby.
The next thing you are gonna say is "sales=/=quality"
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>>341717238
he's had a consistent 3-4 years between projects, and each one is of comparible quality
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BLOCKED.
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>>341717729
He has stage fright.

For the W101 directs he just had to speak to a camera and wasn't forced to speak in English.
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The game is an Open WORLD Action JRPG.
SO the combat is not as good as in other games because its now more about exploration and capturing monsters.
In the original concept for the game there was no combat for th Player character he was a little girls and you could only command monsters like in digimon world.
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Never fulfill your dreams.
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>>341718101
Fuck that sounds better than what we got.
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>>341717975
why do people who've never played W101 think that they can make any comments with regards to its quality and not come off sounding like a naive ass?
the use of buzzwords in lieu of actual points only makes you look more idiotic
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>>341717729
Or he's been turned by Microsoft into a corporate zombie...
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>>341718169
Of course it does. Microshit probably forced him to put in an edgy coolguy protagonist to appeal to the GAMERZ.
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>>341718260
Based Phil would never do such a thing!
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>>341718169
>what we got
What, a MP trailer with a piss easy boss?
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>>341718310
No shit, because female protags don't sell to the modern demographic.
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>>341713732 (OP)
His presentation of the game gave away how much he cares.

He seemed devoid of passion.
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>>341718397
>set difficulty to easy
>play with 3 other people
>WOOOOOOOOW WTF THIS IS SO EASY
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>>341718310
Some people actually prefers to play with characters of their own gender. Not every game has to be turned into waifubait.
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>>341718310
The protagonist isn't the problem, the unexciting gameplay is the problem.
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>>341718506
Exactly. People jumping the gun on this game because of one trailer are being silly.
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>and dialoges
welcome to vidya shitposter
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>>341718584
Did you fucking see the gameplay?
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>>341718526
It needs some work, like bow animation and impact, but there's nothing wrong with it not being yet another Bayonetta or DMC clone.
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>>341718513
It's not about waifubait, it's about the fact that the game was originally just about controlling dragons using a helpless little girl and now it's about Donte the Dragon Knight shooting arrows and using swords and stuff. And it shows that it's all shoehorned in, because the core beat'em'up gameplay is unpolished, slow AND doesn't seem to be all that meaningful compared to the whole dragon thing.
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>>341718526
The unexciting gameplay is there because of the protagonist. If the protagonist were a little girl, you seriously think the game would play anything like what it does now?
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>>341718792
Why not make it a little boy though?

Also if you were just controlling dragons then where would the gameplay come in if you were leaving it up to the dragon AI?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_MZ-MmyIbU

Just in case you forgot here is an old game play video.


The game has more in common whit FFXV or Xenobalde than platinum brawlers.
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>>341718101
Problem is, Nier automata is an open world action JRPG as well as well, and appears to be handling combat far better then this game is.
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>>341718912
>Why not make it a little boy though?
Did I SAY it couldn't be a little boy? Why not be an old lady or an old man or an amalgamation of hatred and envy in the form of a single thumb? The point is that they changed it from what it was to become yet another generic edgy manfighter protagonist, with permanent effects on the gameplay.

>Also if you were just controlling dragons then where would the gameplay come in if you were leaving it up to the dragon AI?
I don't fucking know, I'm not Hideki Kamiya.
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>>341718930
Kamiya also made Okami, which had nothing in common with VJ or DMC.
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>>341718101
sounds like a fucking Monster Hunter chinese clone.

rest in peace kamiya.
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>>341719048
Yeah but does it have dragons?
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>>341719048
Nier automata on the other hand has no Giant monster mechanic and while i agree the combat is much better that is because nier was never a real JRPG in the first place considering how each dungeon was literally a different genre.
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>>341713732
Luckily, Nier looks great.

At least Platinum is pretty okay. But Kamiya is going into HACK territory.
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>>341719048
>slap Bayonetta engine onto existing IP
>call it a day

I mean, I guess. Anything is a step up from the first nier's gameplay
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>>341719239
>One bad game
>From 5 almost perfect games
>And it's not even fucking out yet
>Hack
Kill yourself I want sonyggers to leave
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>>341713732
JUST


that's what you get for writing to idiots on twitter every day instead of actually working on games.

he is one of us now,

this is the type of game we would make.

our shit low class taste
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>>341719048
Nier 2 won't be an open world RPG. It will probably be doable to complete in less than 5 hours just like the first one.
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>>341719387
Have you even played it?
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>>341719239
Kamiya is anything but a hack.
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>>341719387
Unless you skip fucking everything there's no way possible you beat Nier in 5 hours you clueless fuck
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>>341719131
At least someone is doing a Monster Hunter Clone for a proper hardware.
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>>341719362
That's interesting.
Call me an autistic faggot but I actually calculated the amount of work Kamiya spend on this game based on the amount of tweets he made every week since the development of this game started.
It was lots of math work but
long story short.

He spend 20% of his time on this game and 80% on twitter and social networking.

I would say he is an idiot like the FEZ guy.

This is his downfall,

why do some game creators die because of social networking?
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>>341719512
>He spend 20% of his time on this game and 80% on twitter and social networking.

I actually want this to not be true but I believe this faggot.
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>>341719458
Of course. There's an achievement for beating the game in 15 minutes.

The game is padded with repetitive dungeons and quests.
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>>341719512
The game isn't even out yet smartass. Stop judging this game from a 5 minute gameplay video
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>>341719512
Did you consider he spent the same amount of time tweeting while making Wonderful 101?

The BLOCKED meme was before W101 even released. You're not autistic, just stupid.
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>>341719678
He's both only a retard wouldn't have faith in based Kamiya he's incapable of making a bad game
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Random question.

Do Xbox fan(fags) even exist?

Who fucking has this console for real here?
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>>341719610
Oh never mind, it's 15 hours kek

But I'm pretty sure you can do it in 10h or lesd. Still, it's only that lengthy because it forces you to go through the same repetitive dungeons many times. Including an area that forces you to defeat hordes of robots to unlock the gates every time.
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>>341719801
what is that faggotry millenial jacket he is wearing?

That zipper, fucking get out

those jeans, those faggot shoes

that faggot haircut

fuck off idiot
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>>341719131
How they fucking compare it to Zelda all the time are you retarded
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>>341719842
No one owns an Xbone this board is just 90% Sony shills who think everyone else is out to get them
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>>341719725
There's always a first for everything, however.

Scalebound looks better than at gamescom but it's still not much and we don't know if it releases in the spring or fall of 2017. The game may have changed in development but is still at its core about you and your dragon bonding, so they should show off that stuff instead of set pieces that don't translate so well into action.
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>>341719842
I do and know at least 3 dudes I've added from 4chan.

Pretty comfy console
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>>341713797
NOT LIKE YOU
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>>341719057
To be fair okami did kinda have DMC like combat.
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>>341719512
>Call me an autistic faggot but I actually calculated the amount of work Kamiya spend on this game based on the amount of tweets he made every week since the development of this game started.
Math and stats major here. Literally how, I'm so curious. 99% sure this is impossible to determine.
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>>341719842
It's coming to W10, it's ok to talk about Xbox games now.
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>>341713732
> and dialogues?
This is one thing I'm not worried about. It's a E3 demo often have some retarded overdone dialogues for plebs. Look at shit like rainbow six siege or the latest one, they had E3 gameplay trailers where every action was described just like this shit
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I think MS had a hand in it and told them to make the game more multiplayer focused.
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>>341720176
The only thing that isn't part of the game I don't think is the intro before it cuts to gameplay. It's literally the same dialogue and animations from the end of the Ganescom showcase when multiplayer was revealed

The rest I'm sure wasn't added just for the demo.
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>>341719960
>comfy

What does this buzzword even mean?
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>>341714865
Nudoom is shit you underaged subhuman.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moFpyssHL58

What the fuck is this shit? Also:

>XBOX ONE ASS

Lmao.
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>>341720176
I don't know why the fuck they keep doing this. Appearently Recore is the same and the girl doesn't actually narrate every damn thing. It's better than the presenter slowly walking through the motions, but it just sounds so poorly written and scripted. Just play the damn game for fuck's sake.
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>>341720271
Most likely the reason for its delay, to not only port it to W10 but also implement multiplayer and allow crossplay.

Wouldn't be surprised if the bosses are total pushovers with co-op like in souls games, but they said in an interview there's incentives for co-op
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>>341719512
>>341719362
Were talking about the kind of guy who fucking sleep in his office for months working.

Scalebound on stage demo is as awful as FFXV on stage demo because M$ choose an awful big boss to represent the games.
They thought they could reel in people with proportion when we all know that huge gigantic boss battle is always shit for action orientated games.
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>that whole demo
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>>341720339
You won't understand because you got a PS4. Starting by the controller absolutely no comfort in that console, just angery and disdain.
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>>341721178
But Scalebound wasn't shown at the Unisoft conference
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>>341720515
I hope there are many more dragon customizations and weapons than it looks like. We've seen very few types of dragons so far.
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>>341716628
>2016
>being a funfag
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Nothing triggers me more than medieval setting with modern bullshit in it (weapons for example)
But in this case, he fucking wears FUCKING HEADPHONES.
Jesus christ this shit makes me want to bomb some developers. Absolute shit tier design
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>>341721409
We've seen 4 total, also the dragon in the E3 demo now has an axe tail, dunno if it's armor or part of the breed, but it didn't have that in the 2015 demo
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>>341721557
Because the protag is from modern times and also because kamiya wanted to pay homage to Nero's design
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did those soldiers in the second combat from the trailer do anything wrong? they just seemed to be good guys defending their posts before that faggot donte rip off came along

i honestly dont mind the soundtrack while i watch my dragonhusbando break shit apart
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>>341721593
I wonder if the main dragon is the base and we go from there to obtain different dragons or if there is a character creation menu for the dragon.
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>>341721924
Their diplomacy had failed
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>>341713732
I'll have to see more before I make the call. But I remember Kamiya being really angry with Microsoft on twitter for some reason a while back
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>>341722341
Because the game wasn't in a presentable state but MS wanted it shown at Gamescom last year.
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>>341713732
>tfw the MC has an arch enemy with a red dragon and every time you fight him the music turns into heavy metal
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>>341713732
Japs hate americans and xbox. He is making a terrible game on purpose to make some money, but he doesn't want to waste good game ideas and his a team on a game that is exclusive to the bone.
Wait for him to do another game for a jap console and he will bring his a game again.
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>>341723350
Fuck off you weaboo.
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>>341722508
>the game wasn't in a presentable state
>in development since 2006
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Can't wait for Bayonetta 3

NX exclusive
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>>341723614
How else would you explain the situation?
He is taking that sweet sweet MS exclusivity money, and does a lot of prototyping for good games he is going to make another time. No one in Japan even owns an Xbox, so there is zero reason for him to waste the good stuff on a platform that is absolutely dead there. He is still bound by contract to actually deliver a game, so he shits out a stinking turd and hands it over to MS and then has a big laugh with his colleagues at the office.
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>>341713732
bashing a game you have no interest in playing let alone you weren't going to buy in the first place.
you should go play some video games maybe you'll feel better.
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>>341720416

>shit taste: confirmed
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>>341719842
>>341719960
Same,

I mostly own it because my brothers and friends i play games with refuse to buy PCs.

That entire E3 show was amazing for me just because of all the games coming to PC
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>>341724287
i don't think an artist would bring a stain to something they love.
he'd would quit before he does that.
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>>341724306
>posting neofag-tier """""arguments""""" on /v/

Kill yourself fruitfuck.
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>>341714865
>>Forgetting W101
hello smashbabby, still gripping on nichetendo games again?
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>>341719992
>Math and stats major here.
nice try, armchair analyst
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Guess im the only faggot who is interested in this game.

Action RPG game with loot that'll be playable on PC.
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>>341718584
>>341718712
These responses are why I come here. Thanks /v/.

Scalebound looks like hot fucking garbage. Anyone who is still looking forward to it is insane.

>worst protag design in recent history
>beats headset
>annoying as fuck in game dialogue
>cringe DURING COMBAT. At least that shit stayed in cutscenes in Bayonetta 2
>no weight to combat, just use these attacks vs a moving hp bar that doesn't react or try to kill you properly

Even the first gameplay trailer looked like a bad FFXV ripoff, and that game will be shit, and looks at least twice as good as Scalebound
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FUCK YOU
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>>341727591
JUST YOU
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The real question i need answered here is that common xboxfag is honestly going to play this?

Their fanbase don't play games like this at all.

It makes me wonder why they also bothered showing FFXV in their conference to when we all know hardly any of the people on xbox will play that shit.
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>>341727804
>Their fanbase don't play games like this at all.
we're not into weeb shit
this game doesn't look like weeb shit.
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the e3 gameplay looked awfully boring,
i'll never get why people keep adding bow weapon on console, it's even more awful for aiming since there's a travelling time
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>>341727953
Xboxfags don't play no ARPG's regardless if it's weebshit or not.
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>>341728195
i don't think you're telling truth here
skyrim sold big on xbox and so did a bunch of other arpgs just not the japanese looking ones.
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His hair look like JUST.
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>>341713732
>working with Microsoft

They are 100% responsible for this.

"Too japanese"
"Too fats paced"
"Not marketable"
"Where are gun?"
"More dragon"
"Less combos, too complicated"
"More wubstep"
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>Platinum's B-team is making a game that looks miles better than the game A-team is making
You can't make this shit up
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>W101 is good
Wonderful meme.
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>>341717975
That's literally every sonyggers fall to argument thou
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>>341713732
Literally the fuck is going here?
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I was honestly surprised at the backlash towards this. I thought it looked great! It looks incredibly retarded, but in a good way!
>super enthusiastic show off protagonist that doesn't take anything seriously
>dramatic orchestral music and modern electronic rock? music mixed into the same fight
>boss battle has several phases that involve completely different styles of gameplay
>Melee combat, magic attacks, dragon riding
>boss fights are sort of like Lost Planet
My only issue was that they showcased a water part of the game and had very little melee combat save for the end of the boss fight. It took away any sense of control and freedom and wasn't good for showcasing combat. I thought it was rad though.
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>Scalebound
>No combos seemingly - just mash that button
>Slow-ass bow and arrow combat
>Fighting on dragon is just spamming projectiles
>The boss they showed off barely attacked and wasn't a threat at all
>Retarded damage numbers
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>>341717975
>Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber are the best musicians in the world.

How do you live with yourself?
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>>341727804
Xbox is the same as the PS4 though?
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>>341713732
>he was such a great director

He really wasn't. Okami is the single legitimately great thing he made, and even that one is arguable since it's just such a blatant Zelda ripoff. Everything else he worked on was either mediocre or nowhere near the height of the franchise. RE2 and 3 were nowhere near as good as 1 and 4. DMC was just merely okay until 3 came along and made it the best combo based action game. Bayo is a poor man's DMC, with a protag that could only appeal to pubescent teens. VJ is literally who the game, mediocre. He's better at being Phil Fish than making video games.
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They shouldn't have shown the boss fight. I'm sure it would have been a great surprise in 4 player co-op. But the major complaints are coming because it was shown as a demo.

>Talking too much
Obviously won't be in the official release. That was to show off communication via multiplayer. Why they didnt use headsets and other people I have no idea

>shitty combat
Most of the combat was on the damn dragon. The combat itself looks like it could be something like the new Nier game which looks pretty cool.

>Dragons can't do anything
Since it's an RPG I'm sure you will get new upgrades with your dragon for it to do certain stuff

>Protag looks retarded
This is subjective. I think it's a fun kind of 90s design and I have no problem with this

Of course I'm saying all of this because I'm an idort and I want to justify my purchase of both consoles. All-in-all I'm still looking forward to it.
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>>341719842
I've added 20 people on here. There's more xboner on other websites desu
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>>341730094
The way I see it that's it's more monster hunter then dmc. The problem with most anons on here is that they're looking for Bayonetta x dmc with dragons
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>Yeah it's bad everyone, I saw 6 minutes of scripted gameplay!

I mean I'm not looking forward to the game that much but you guys never cease to amaze with stupidity
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>>341731946
People are talking shit about the new God of War, too.
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>>341730885
But monhun has satisfying animations for its melee combat, and requires you to constantly be repositioning yourself. The combat we've seen in videos so far looks like fucking western action rpg tier.
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>>341731946
Scripted gameplay is supposed to look cool however.
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>>341732269
I mean I can't really comment on that either since I haven't played all the originals but it's different enough to look interesting, dad Kratos might be fun
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>>341714865
W101 was barely worth a pirate and Doom 4 was quite literally ass. I've played better Doom 1 wads made by 13 year olds.
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The fact that this game has Not-Dante as its protagonist is just super fucking misleading.

I think it's safe to say everyone just assumed this would be Dragon May Cry when it was announced, hell people still do. But it's obviously way more of an RPG/Monster Hunter game. Not to mention Co-Op, which had a bunch of clones running around.

It feels like this game should have had a character creator. Nothing about the MC or story actually seems to justify it.
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Microsoft can't handle game development. They would have micromanaged and changed goals many times.

>Make a kinect game where you shoot dragons!
>And it needs smart glass support.
>Kinect support? We don't need that.
>This game is too hard!
>We need multiplayer.
>It needs to run on DX12
>This game needs to target hardcore gamers like phil spencer!
>Port it to the windows 10 store.
>We need VR support start working on that.
>Make a version that runs at 4k on this half finished dev box.
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>>341713732
Why is he wearing headphones? Looks pretty impractical to wear them while fighting or if youre together with other guys.

Why are headphones in general now considered an accessoire? Shit like pic related triggers me so fucking hard.
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>>341733616
Fuck you, sonygger. Don't you dare shit on Based Phil.
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>>341734909
because it means you're different, you're in your own world separate from everyone else
and you look like a cool dj
woah
100/10 character design
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>>341713732
Yeah yeah, you don't like the game but where's the porn? That guy looks hot
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>>341713732
No, seriously, the game was pretty much:
>character say some douche bag shit
>shoot big enemy for 5 min
>proc enemy animation
>shoot big enemy for 5 min
>characters say some douche bag shit
>proc enemy new mode, can now get on top of hit
>smash X
>proc cutscene
...
Is anyone really excited for this, huge fucking disappointment. At least it's on PC now.
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>>341729359
Nah, I'm generally a sonygger and this guy is a retard, W101 is fucking great, and honestly I prefer it to both Bayos.
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