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What's the appeal?
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Fast flashy action can be fun. If you don't like that, look elsewhere.
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>>341701376
Its flashy and has a different combat system than most action games.
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They used to make good games, so there's hope that they might start to again (they won't).
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>>341701376
>>341702109

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVUIUnbIBE

This is not good enough for you faggots.
I think you guys can just go an hero immediately
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>>341702109
Man, I do miss God Hand. Their current stuff just doesn't click with me.
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>>341701376
Fast pace and silliness.
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They make no pretensions about making the same kind of cinematic artistic BS being put out today, instead excelling on action game systems that offer obscene amounts of depth and replayability. Bayonetta offers near-DMC levels of combo development, and Vanquish's eschewing of cover oriented shooting for the sake of balancing accuracy with high speed movement made it easily the best TPS last gen. Everything else they've made is varying degrees of enjoyable maybe not Madworld, but it had more style and flash than the games that actually try for that nowadays.
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>>341702109
It's just Bayonetta with slightly better normal movement/jumping.

Still not nearly as good as anything they made while they were still Clover. Except maybe that VJ Smash rip-off.
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>>341702682
no pretensions about not* making
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>>341701376
Cheap labor that shits out reasonably decent games that you could sell for almost full price
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>>341701376
funky action game
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>>341701376
High skill ceiling for single player games, rewards for perfection
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>>341701376
combat design and polish
fast action that makes you react to incoming threats dodge them get some hits creating an exhilarating feeling
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>>341702332
that looks fun af
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>>341702682
>They make no pretensions about making the same kind of cinematic artistic BS being put out today

Inaba during his speech on GDC said as much:

> *some* developers think that game are not supposed to be fun... i don't think so...

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1023581/Action-Games-Without-Borders-Making
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Kamiya and Mikami. But Mikami left, so just Kamiya.

Still triggers me that newfags think Kamiya is the CEO and works on every game, or that he's not allowed to make something that isn't Bayonetta with a different skin a la most things platinum has made
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>>341703517
>posts the only platinum game almost as bad as ninja turtles
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>>341704014
>I was too casual to get used to the controls the post
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>>341704014

The shit pushed by Kamiya aside, the combat was pretty good. And no one can hate that final boss either.
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W101 > Bayonetta > Vanquish > Bayonetta 2 > Mad World > MGR > Transformers > Korra > TMNT > Anarchy Reigns

So far nier looks like another MGR and Scalebound is more of an RPG adventure thing over action. Both should be ok though, but Platinum really needs to diversify their genres. Make a racing game, RTS, something else like Vanquish did and Scalebound is attempting to do.
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Deep, fast paced combat, and challenging gameplay. That's all one really needs to say.
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>>341704308
>really needs to diversify their genres
I'd agree with this if they weren't pretty much the only company making worthwhile games of this kind.
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>>341702332
>amazing story
>amazing gameplay
>amazing music
>amazing art

They could've picked anyone to develop this game and yet they made the right AND the smart choice.
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>>341704308
Well, this was one of their first games.
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>>341704014
If you finished the game, you wouldn't post stupid shit like this.
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>>341704498
They're kind of forced to do so because of their reputation though, and I think that squanders the talent somewhat.

But whatever pays the bills I guess
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>>341704308
>there will never be a 60 FPS Vanquish

I'd buy a PS4K/Scorpio/whatever, just please give it to me already Sega.
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>>341704308
NieR has some genre shifts if you want to see Platinum trying different things.
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>>341704840
I entirely forgot about that. Didn't they only work on it as much as they worked on the new Star Fox, or am I wrong?
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>>341704308
nobody is asking Obsidian to make racing game
nobody is asking Bungie to make RTS

These studios don't even produce multiple games on yearly basis and hasn't deviated from their niche for decades now

While Platinum does and even still diverges with occasional Scalebound and Vanquish
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>>341701376
Flashy fun
Expects you to learn the game and don't handhold you.
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>>341704928
It still boggles my mind that SEGA hasn't tried to innovate their huge library of games that they haven't touched, same thing with Capcom. I think it's because they fear losing money from it and the fact that reviewers are so shit with video games that they'll shit on any game that they aren't good at (The Wonderful 101 and Lost Planet 2 for starters).
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>>341702332
>swords floating almost a whole foot behind their back

The one thing that bothers me
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>>341705121
Sega, Capcom, and especially Konami have squandered some fucking fantastic IPs. It gets frustrating to think about.
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>>341701376
Fun games. Went downhill with Korra, Star Fox, TMNT, and Scalebound. Hopefully Nier redeems them.
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>>341704902
Treasure (the company I see them compared the most to) didn't really diversify their style that much, either--shooters and platformers were pretty in line with their usual action games more than a hypothetical Platinum RTS or racing game would be. Maybe it doesn't need to be a straight character action game next time, but I think the rule changes between Bayo, W101, and Anarchy Reigns make them unique enough experiences.

Of course, if they want to make one of them, then of course I'd prefer that--they shouldn't be squandered on something they don't want to do. But I think they're just happy and good at making action games.
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Well done boss fights
gameplay that actually teaches you the game as you play
Good feedback on attacks
A fuck ton of replayability

Basically a complete understanding of games
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>>341705326
Funn enough, I was thinking of mentioning Konami too. But they're literally a lost cause:

https://youtu.be/idsOFdZ8X54
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>>341702332
>That skidding technique
Oh god yes.
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>>341705037
because Bungie had already made a couple good RTS before Halo, which was going to be an RTS itself originally

I just want action games that feel different I guess.
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>>341704308
>bayo 1 better than bayo 2
>w101 top tier
what!
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>>341705786
>tfw we'll never have another Myth game

It hurts. And, even though it's not an RTS...

>tfw we'll never have another Marathon game
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>>341705872
>w101 top tier
Nothing wrong here.
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>>341704308
Vanquish > Bayo 2 > Bayo > MGR > Anarchy Reigns > W101

Never played the rest
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fun action games

rising was fun. also i liked w101.
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>that E3 scalebound gameplay

So is anyone gonna get this?
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>>341705872
Top three order are debatable but Bayo 2 felt like a step back in some parts. Not bad, just not as good.
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>>341701376
button mashing
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>>341701376
Memes.
>LE CUHRAYZAY
>UNCA DAWNTAY
>MOOOOON RIVER
>MOTIVATION xD

They make the same game time and again, reskinned and slathered with new QTEs and minigames, with about 2 hours worth of content. Their fans eat it up, everyone else just shakes their head.
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>>341701376

It's played by children. That's why you will always see some stupid preteen on /v/ saying "I want X game to be made by Platinum with Souls-like combat in an open world" followed by posting a stupid anime girl.

Avoid those kids at all cost.
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>>341706232
Platinum didn't make DMC you stupid fuck. Also Bayonetta 2 was rated 10/10 by most sites.
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>>341705249
It's a feature.
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>>341706232
>>341706306
Then tell me some better action/adventure games with boss fights and fun gameplay. Honestly I want to know so I can play them myself.
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>>341701376

Pretty colors and button mashing. It's the video game equivalent to jingle keys. I hate Platinum fans so much.
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>>341706061
>MGR above W101

Diplomacy has failed

>>341706082
The more I watch it the more I like it, to be honest. I feel like it looks dull because of the co-op and maybe being on lower difficulty for demonstration but my only real complaint is how the bow has no weight to it

Also, could just be me trying to cope internally but I feel the game is more like Okami than DMC, and that because it's Platinum, MS wants to show off the combat when that's not the real draw, if you get what I'm saying? I really just want to see a full 18-30 minute demo and not short 5-9 minute snipets of combat.
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>>341706556
That's too video game-y.

Grow up and try playing mature stuff like God of War: My Wife's Son Edition already.
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>>341705872
>>w101 top tier
a slight mistake indeed

W101 is god-tier over all top-tiers
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>>341706613
I just didn't like the gamepad sections.
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You can always tell the kids who can't get their nintengoggles off because they'll put W101 before Bayonetta and MGR.

W101 wasn't bad, but it doesn't stand up next to Platinum's good games.
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>>341705326
>Maximo
>Ghosts n Goblins
>Castlevania
>Lost Planet
>Asura's Wrath
>Vanquish
>Binary Domain

Oh trust me I know.
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>>341706734
Theres only a few in the whole game though.
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>>341706660
>I don't like video games with my video games

You're right, might as well play The Last Days of Gone
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>>341706751
>Platinum's good games
>MGR
You seem to be mistaken.
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>>341706883
Still ruins the experience when replaying
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>>341706556
The first two Ninja Gaiden games are the only games that come to mind. There's really not anyone else making the same stuff Platinum puts out. It's almost mind boggling how this genre has become so niche when it's so rewarding and well developed.
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>>341706751
> MGR
> good

> silly console flameposting

MGR is okay if you like songs but it's a failure as an action game (retarded and ourrightly borken lock-on and camera)

> W101
stands tall way above

it's way up there with Bayo 1
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>>341706751
>You can always tell the kids who can't get their nintengoggles off because they'll put W101 before Bayonetta and MGR.
>MGR
It's the exact opposite: people are letting their attachment to a popular franchise inflate their opinion of a clearly rushed and shallower game.

Bayo is better than both
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>>341706556

Devil May Cry 3. Also I hate how people think that bald faggot Hideki made the whole series when he only did the first one which aged like milk. Also he almost ruined Resident Evil 2.
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>>341706751
>nintengoggles
>when both Bayo 1 and 2 are also on the Wii U
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>>341706751
You can always tell the plebes who have never touched action games because they consider MGR a good action game, but given how /v/ is full of casuals pretending to be hardcore it's easy to se why MGR and Dark Souls are so loved
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>>341706751

Platinum made good games?
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Confusing controls, qtes, terrible stories and characters that somehow never fail to have 2+ hours of cutscenes dedicated to them.

These games bomb every time and for good reason. They suck ass
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>>341706989
> Ninja Gaiden II
> fun bosses
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>>341706751
>MGR is a good game because they say the word "meme" in it!!

Truly, these plebs will never understand the likes of us.
*tips respectfully in your direction*
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>>341706989
Exactly. And what's even more mind-boggling is the fact that Western developers aren't jumping on this shit. The only Western hack and slash games I can think of are God of War, Ryse: My Wife's Son of Rome, Darksiders, and Dante's Inferno.
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>>341707165
IT'S LIKE THE DARK SOULS OF DEVIL MAY CRY.
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>>341706984
I liked them more on the replays, except the power grid right after you meet Vjonne but >opinions

>>341707037
>implying
RE2 is the best in the series though
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>>341707225
>Darksiders
there was one developer in Darksiders II team who actually knew his action games and he wanted to add more depth to the combat but was constantly blocked by game's director and producers who kept saying: "this is too hard and completely uneeded"
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>>341702332
nice defintely gonna pick this up for PC
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>>341707471
>games shouldn't be challenging
It's shit like this that makes me pity the Western AAA industry. Because Dark Souls wasn't a prime example of a good and challenging game since it sold well. IT'S STILL SELLING FUCKING MILLIONS AND THEY STILL DON'T SEE IT.
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>>341707165
>get to the werewolf fiend
>no potions
>1/5 life
>can sometimes snag a blue orb from those armor worm fiends right before him
>finally beat him with a sliver of life left
>NOW FIGHT A HORDE OF WEREWOLVES
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>>341707020
I played MGS1 and the Demo for 2.
I have no meaningful attachment to MGS.

W101 was simply an uninteresting world, sloshy combat and obnoxious shoehorned gamepad bullshit. Good music though.

Like I said, W101 isn't a bad game. It just doesn't live up to the experiences Platinum has delivered in the past. It's not as good as either Bayo, MGR, or even Vanquish.

It gets inflated praise because all Nintendo exclusives do. The notable difference being Bayonetta 2 deserves the praise beyond it simply being a Nintendo game.

I played ZombiU on my WiiU, then got in on PS+ a few months back. It's a better experience on PS4 without the game pad distractions, and it straight up runs better.

ZombiU - metacritic 77
Zombi - metacritic 71

There is a pretty sizable portion of Nintendo players who are just, for whatever reason, incapable of taking a step back.
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>>341701376

Hideously deformed characters I guess? And the action.
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>>341707792
Honest question, did you finish W101?
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>>341707018
Being one who enjoys action games and yet saying MGR failed as one, you have truly missed out

Good luck
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>>341707792
>obnoxious shoehorned gamepad bullshit
Discarded. Anyone with half a mind uses the right stick for drawing the unite morphs.
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>>341702332
"Finally, something that looks like a fucking videogame" what the first thing I thought.
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>>341707442

>RE2 is the best in the series though

Agreed, but it was Shinji Mikami that made Resident Evil 2 was great as it was. Hideki Kamiya kept on fighting him which they called it "creative differences".
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>>341707792
>an uninteresting world
lel

>sloshy combat
It has a bit higher learning curve than usual, but is perfectly playable. If you had said framerate, that'd be different.

>gamepad
Completely optional.
Honestly, everyone else has already explained through the thread where the merits of the game lie. You probably would've seen this is you weren't so concerned with making some shitty blog post about irrelevant and blatantly false company wars shit.
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>>341702332
>bullet hell part starts up
>"oh this looks kinda dumb, you can just shoot the bullets"
>indestructible bullets come out
>"oh fuck that's pretty cool I guess"
>bullets start flying upward too
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>>341702332
this looks rad as fuck, too bad its ps exclusive
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>>341707792
I hate Nintendo and woukd regret buying a Wii U if not for Tropical Freeze and W101. It could be on any system and I would still think it's one of the best games, if not the best gamethis generation.

The gamepad segments are few and sparce, but also more creative than most of Nintendo's own attempts, and the combat is very responsive. The game is jam packed with content and currently the longest Platinum game out at around 18 hours for the first playthrough You really don't know what you're talking about if you put MGR or Bayo 2 above W101.
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>>341708001
>you have truly missed out
i am literally two levels away from S-rank on revengeance

This game is a shitfest when you apply the same requirements than say Bayonetta 1 and W101 pass with success -- as in game should only get better and opens up new mechanics as you go deeper into difficulty modes

MGR ([and Bayo 2) only gets worse as you keep playing it because you find more and more gaping mistakes of combat design and get frustrated
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They know what a video game is and what they should be.
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>>341708118
What did Kamiya want it to be? More like what would become DMC?
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>>341708442
Not that guy but the camera issues alone put W101 below Bayo2 or MGR for me.
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>>341707945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqjEBuXUwo
Yes. Still listen to this occasionally.

>>341708129
Clearly I didn't like the combat because it has a "higher learning curve". There exists space for opinions other than yours. I finished the game and didn't find it all that difficult, but I've been a fan of that sort of game for a long time. DMC is one of my favorite series as is Ninja Gaiden. I didn't say the combat was difficult to learn, or difficult in general, I called it sloshy. It felt looser than I'd have liked, and I imagine it's because there isn't one central point to the animations. It was a stylistic thing, not a functional one.

>>341708442
You guys are a really reactive defense force you know that? I've been told several times I'm inciting "company wars" when I was saying Bayonetta 1 and 2 are better than W101. I guess some people don't see the problem there. It got better reviews than it deserved, because it just wasn't that interesting a game.
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>>341709078
The only time I had trouble with the camera was in act 2, in the turbine. MGR had some camera issues as well
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>>341708674
You mean they know how to copy paste the same game over and over?
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>>341708791

Probably. It would have gone the action route way earlier than intended if he had full control.
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>>341709163
>There exists space for opinions other than yours.
>but if you liked more than MGR, you're a nintenyearold

IRONING
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>>341709163
I never said anything about company wars, its also underrated if anything. Got worse scores than it deserves because most reviewers couldn't grasp the tutorial
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>>341701376
MGR is the best Metal Gear game. #kojimacucks
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>>341709596
That's MGS2 but MGR is a better MGS game than anything Kojims made since 3
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>>341702332
So, are they doing any damage at all?
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Spam square to win is the appeal
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>>341709508
I didn't call anyone a nintenyearold, but look at all these people come out of the woodwork because one person didn't like W101 the most.

I've said in my post I liked the game and it was good. I just liked Bayonetta 1 and 2, as well as MGR better. Apparently this is a mortal wound to it's honor.
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>>341709163
As long as you finished it, I'm fine with whatever you opinion you have, even if I highly disagree with it. Because the entire final act of the game really just made up for any and all misgivings I may have felt about the game. Also, I love that music (I don't even have to look at the link to know what song it is).
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I've only played Bayonetta and MGR:R, and was disappointed with the latter.
I find it worrying how Automata is apparently being worked on by the same people as Rising. Nier's gameplay was rough but fun, and I think there is definitely room for improvement. I just don't want it to be Nier flavored MGR. Not to mention that their last couple games have not been received too well.

What Platinum game do you think best demonstrates that they are competent developers?
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>>341709163
I highly disagree with you calling it "sloshy". The combat is much tighter than MGR. You have options for days unlike MGR. You can use almost any unite morph in cooperations with each other thanks to being able to draw morphs to attack using a different or same weapon with your unused Wonderful Ones.

I'm not sure if TW101 is the best game in the genre, but it sure as shit is better than MGR.
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>>341709807
>I didn't call anyone a nintenyearold, but look at all these people come out of the woodwork because one person didn't like W101 the most.
They're coming out of the woodwork because your argument was founded on console war faggotry.

>>341706751
>You can always tell the kids who can't get their nintengoggles off because they'll put W101 before...MGR.

If you had just come out and said "well it's my opinion" no one would give a shit.

Why am I even explaining this? You know it already. Have another (You).
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>>341709953
I would say vanquish
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>>341709696
>but MGR is a better MGS game than anything Kojims made since 3
and it is still in a low tier of Platinum Games mainly because it was a very rushed job and lots of things were left woefully unpolished
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>>341709953
Bayonetta 2, Bayonetta 1, W101, Vanquish and MGR.

In that order.
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>>341704308
MGR>Bayonetta 2>Bayonetta>W101>Vanquish>Infinite Space>Madworld>Transformers
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Why are people so hard on TMNT MiM? It has issues, but people act like it's an outright bad game, when it has a lot of good points to it.
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>>341710698
No local coop is a big reason for me.
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>>341710169
Yeah, which speaks volumes for MGS :^)

>>341710654
BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT
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>>341710698
>ps3
Nigga what are you doing. At least get it on 360 if you're not on the current gen.
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>>341710698
I heard a lot of people call Devastation mediocre but I thought it was fucking great.
If TMNT is what I assume it is, basically the same but with the turtles slapped on top, I'd play the hell out of it.
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@341710654
>MGR first
You don't even get a you surrounded by parenthesis.
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>>341710783
>>341710820
How's it bait? I really liked it.
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>>341709953
Vanquish, being the best TPS ever, comes to mind.
Also Bayonetta, because it's one of the best stylish action games ever, even if it's not as good as DMC3 and 4.
Wonderful 101, because it's really solid and unique.

Most everything else they've made ranges from above average to good, but nothing to remember. But I think Nier Automata might be their first actual fantastic "commissioned" (if you will) game. It looks really good.
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>>341710804
I really enjoyed devastation, but I imagine much of that comes from my nostalgia for G1 transformers. I couldn't in good conscious say it stands up to the polish of something like bayo.
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>>341710794
Free online. Nothing against the 360 version though. And yeah, no current gen systems yet.

>>341710779
Fair enough. Maybe if they do a sequel on stronger hardware they can incorporate that. The game ends in a way, where they can definitely do one with them showing Shredder is still alive at the last cutscene.

>>341710804
It doesn't play like Transformers admittedly. It plays something more like Anarchy Reigns and is more of a traditional 3D arcade like beat em up in comparison. But it does play solid. It's not full price and it's cheaper depending on what version you get but all versions are less then $60.
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>>341710783
>BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT
>>341710820
>MGR first
>You don't even get a you surrounded by parenthesis.

See this kind of reply kind of has me siding with the guy who called you all nintenyearolds. People are entitled to their opinions. MGR was a legitimately fun game. And it beat W101 on metacritic so your indignation and incredulity are either intentional and false, or outright ignorant.

I like W101 better because I thought it was charming and the music was top notch, but this kinda shit makes even me mad.
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>>341711345
Damn dude if you played bayonetta on ps3 over 360 my condolences my man
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>>341711345
Frankly when they announced it I was hoping it would be closer to devastaion, and be the first series of turtles. I think they could have done an awesome light hearted beat em up. Think 3d turtles in time.

I feel like Transformers and Turtles both were done a disservice when they tried to make them "cooler and darker". That's what the comics were for. Devastation showed well enough that you can use the G1 designs and make them work in a way that is fun and cool. These new turtles look like they're trying too hard to be hip.

Though I can see lacking local coop being a huge hit.
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>>341711426
I didn't. Played both Bayonetta 1 & 2 on Wii U. But I did hear the PS3 version of Bayonetta did have a lot of issues. I should have said no PS4 and Xbox One at the moment.
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>>341711405
Not either of them, but I rarely listen to reviewers anymore because I just can't trust the shit that they do is legitimate and unbiased. So, I wouldn't base W101's "fun" based on some hack reviewers ideology of what an action game is supposed to be (not saying that you did). That's just me. I loved MGR too and I love W101 equally, but they're both different games that accomplish their games in different ways.
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>>341711659
That's what happens when you work with craptivision. Korra was crap too.
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>>341702332
Love the clean transition from cutscene into fight. Looks so dope. So excited for this game.
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>>341701376
They consistently make solid games.

But they've literally become a meme at this point. Which is good for them because now they get a lot of requests to make videogames in their style, but it's really annoying to hear "X by Platinum XD" all the time, because they're not always that great especially with side projects like that.
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>>341711897
This. Star fox should've been done by Treasure instead. What happened to Treasure anyway?
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>>341711769
>craptivision
This. The documents leaked about Destiny's "super-cut" and other artistic changes when related to Marty's termination proved that Activision had any and all artistic control when it came to their licenses (though, Bungie was as shitty as they were at the time), so I'm almost positive that they had a hand in whatever shit was in the game.
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>>341711405
>See this kind of reply kind of has me siding with the guy who called you all nintenyearolds.
That was trolling/unecessary console warrior shit that he started. "Not deserving a you" is really just typical 4chan bantz.

Also
>metacritic scores

>>341710903
MGR was rushed, and most importantly it feels rushed. It doesn't have nearly as high a skill ceiling as Platinum's other games, exacerbated by the over-reliance on slash-parrying. People here are also more than likely only taking gameplay into account, so if you liked it for your favorite MGS story tropes/setting/what have you than be aware that other people aren't looking at this.
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>>341711659
Perhaps a future game. But the game does have a lot of light hearted moments and cartoon like moments. Mikey being the comic relief, the way Bebop ends up hitting his head as he runs away complete with cartoon sound effects, and a lot of the moves they can do are very over the top in general.

>Though I can see lacking local coop being a huge hit.

Yeah. They should have made that bigger priority. Perhaps next time with stronger systems.
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>>341712003
Pretty sure they disbanded after their last XBLA title didn't sell well. At least I remember hearing that somewhere.

Platinum's involvement in Star Fox is also overstated. The core game was mostly Miyamoto.
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>>341712192
MGS does happen to be my favorite series, that's why it put it first. I really liked how they vindicated Raiden and the gameplay to me was pretty fun, with the zandatsu and all.
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>>341707037
DMC1 has actually held up pretty well. It's archaic in some ways but that's simply because it's the archetype/foundation almost every single third person action title has used as a basis since. I recently went through it again in the HD collection and enjoyed it aside from some fixed camera issues.
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>>341712287
That's a damn shame, they were the kings of shoot em ups.
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>>341712192
>That was trolling/unecessary console warrior shit that he started. "Not deserving a you" is really just typical 4chan bantz.
It's not even the same guy, his list is different.

>metacritic scores
I wasn't agreeing with metacritic. If you'd bothered to read my post I told you outright I liked W101 better. I was saying that you guys acting like it's unbelievable and silly that anyone could have that opinion is completely retarded when you all know that MGR did better with reviewers. AGAIN I'm not saying it's better, I never even finished it. what I'm saying is that pretending everyone knows and believes W101 is better when it didn't do as well critically is typical consolewar type bullshit in and of itself.
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GIVE ME MGR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>341712803
fuckonami
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>>341712448
I get where you're coming from. Not a big MGS fan, so all the bells and whistles didn't do anything for me, but the game wasn't braindead or anything.

But comparing to their other, more fully realized games, it just doesn't stand up.

>>341712618
I do think they weren't as perfect as some others find then, but what they did get right they knocked out of the park.
>Bangai-O
>Sin and Punishment
>Alien Soldier
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>>341709716
I thought that too, they probably just removed the HUD for the E3 show. Odd decision.
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>>341712618
>Treasure
>The kings of shmups
Ikarugafag!
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>>341712847
Fair enough, I'm probably not the best to ask for an opinion though anyway, since MGR is the only one I've actually finished fully. Also Sin & Punishment and Alien Soldier were amazingly fun games.
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>>341712910
Radiant Silvergun mah boi.
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>>341706556
Onimusha
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>>341713121
Darius is better~
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>>341713536
I tried playing darius on my tg16 and I hated it.
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>>341713024
If you liked MGS (as well as those Treasure games) I'd suggest going back and finishing/putting in some real time with their other titles. Given how much more complex they are, you'll need to dig a bit deeper to get as much enjoyment out of them as you did MGR. All of the games mentioned were designed with multiple playthroughs/mastering the controls in mind; they don't have that same sense of immediate satisfaction of zanbatsu without properly learning the mechanics.
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>>341713678
I was planning on finishing Bayonetta 1 and 2 and Madworld soon.
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Does anyone know if Anarchy Reigns is any good?
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>>341710698
can someone show me high level tmnt gameplay? I want to buy it but if I can't do autistic shit like pic related then I'll wait til it goes on sale
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>>341713486
>another squandered Capcom title

Why the fuck did you remind me, you insensitive anon?
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>>341713626
Well, it's extremely hard. But I was mostly thinking Darius Gaiden, G.Darius and Dariusburst anyway.
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>>341708791
it was a really early version of RE4 that became DMC later, but maybe elements of kamiya's RE2 were used during production unitl it was completely shifted to another direction
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>>341714056
I won't suffer alone.
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>>341714158
I think i played the one on Saturn too, and afair it wasn't bad.
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>>341701376
short, high-octane games with lots of replay value
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>>341713975
Bought it for 5$, was pretty ok but the Bayonetta DLC being absent was fucking annoying. Top tier waifus anyways though, damn. Plays like a faster paced MadWorld with no wagglan and it has weather gimmicks/super enemies that start raining out of the sky after awhile. Pretty fun/10.
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>>341701376

Good gameplay and fun characters.

Now go back to playing your cinematic experiences fag.
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Should Suda51 and Platinum ever team up to make a game?
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>>341712803
Sure, enjoy your MGR2 pachinko game
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>>341715264
Only if it's a Liberation Maiden sequel that isn't a VN.
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>>341715264
Suda has literally nothing he can add to Platinum
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>>341701376
Dont play it unless youre sure their style appeals to you

They don't appeal to the lowest common denominator but at the same time their games can be awful if you don't like their ideas
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>>341715264
BTW what suda is doing after his xbone game flopped hard? How was it called?
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>>341715264
What Suda51 needs is his own budget and a decent timeframe to work with, pretty much every game the poor bastard worked on is a butchering of his original concept. Not a team of mid-tier developers.
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>>341715595
I think his style would translate but not necessarily like gameplay style, more like art direction and themes.
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>>341715264
no, suda is dead
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>>341715683
Are you thinking of Swery and D4?
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>>341715713
Just make a game called Suda is Dead. Have it be a sequel to Killer is Dead.
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>>341715819
Oh yeah, it was swery, my mistake
What is swery doing at the moment?
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>>341715264
I always imagined a team up with CyberConnect2, Platinum, and Grasshopper Manufacture since they make the craziest games imaginable.
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I hope they don't fuck up NieR Automata
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>>341715690
>more like art direction and themes.
which would be useful but unfortunately Platinum already has these elements downpat

he is just outmatched compared to them
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>>341715969
http://www.accessgames-blog.com/swery65/2015/11/post-8f7d.html

He got sick and took a break. I don't think it's something serious but it must be stressful for him since his game flopped both on XB1 and Steam.

I actually enjoyed D4, hopefully season 2 will happen.
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>>341715969
He's on a dev hiatus because he got the diabetes
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Press x and cool flashy stuff happens
No story or any kind of attention requiring feature required so you cant turn off your brain and feel good about the combo meter filling up


Its for add manchildren who are bored of videogames
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>>341716561
Replace the phrase "videgames" with "movies" and you would go from being the wrongest post in the thread to being the rightest one/
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