1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz for gaming?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10505416
I've only ever played at 1080p 60hz TN so which is more mind blowing? From what I've read both offer huge differences for gaming and even normal Windows use but what is your opinion?
And no I can't afford a 1440p144hz IPS monitor like pic related.
I value frame rate more than a higher resolution. I'll happily play a game in 720p if it means I retain 120fps.
>>341680053
1080p 144hz all the way. I can't go back to 60fps now, it makes the same difference as going from 30 to 60.
>>341680053
120/144hz monitor over 60hz anon
Higher res isn't really a big deal if you just play video games and shit post where as higher refresh rate is fucking incredible
1080p 144hz
>buy 1440p 144hz monitor for $800 over a year ago
>only use it for youtube, irc and web browsing
at least my mouse movement looks smooth right
>>341681931
Would you say the same for someone that MOSTLY plays singleplayer games?
I've been told the smoothness only really helps people that play games like CS:GO
>>341682275
>>341682554
What kind of games do you guys play? Just curious. Does the fluid frames make SP games more enjoyable too?
1440p/60hz
The amount of games you will hit 144hz is very low, and 144hz vs 60hz for normal browsing isn't significant enough.
Unless you literally only plan on playing CSGO or Overwawtch, or turning off a ton of things like shadows and various draw distance stuff to make the game look like shit but hit 100+FPS, 1440p is much better visually.
>>341683794
>The amount of games you will hit 144hz is very low
What if I would say my system is a beast that could actually achieve these frames? Would you still say it's not worth it
>>341683794
>The amount of games you will hit 144hz is very low
What are you, poor? If you can't afford a rig that can max every game at whatever framerate you want, then you have no business even weighing display options.
OP, 144hz. Absolutely. There's no going back to 60 once you get it.
>>341683794
I want to max out games at 1440p and the Gtx 1080 hardly hits 100fps on a lot of games I want to play
>>341683702
It makes a difference in just about everything. Biggest would probably be shooters like Quake and Unreal. Yeah, it makes SP games more enjoyable too. The only downside is games with shitty programming, like Bethesda games, where they have things like physics tied to framerate.
2160p @ 60HZ, 39.5 inches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8V08eomD4
>>341683702
fps/racing/rts/mmos all sorts of shit
Hell even browsing the internet its noticeable as i have a 120hz and a 60hz monitor side by side
>>341683952
980 + i5, can't say I've had any problems honestly. Generally some moderate tweaks to settings here and there but it's negligible. Even my 690 before it didn't have much of a problem hitting 120+ in games over the years
>>341680053
I have a 1440p 144hz monitor, if for some reason I had to choose between those two, I would absolutely go for the 1440p 60hz.
framerate is more important than resolution at that resolution.
>>341683794
Get off your toaster, I can hit 144 on 90+ percent of games coming out and I'm running a 970 and a 2500k.
>>341684635
I have the same here. 1440p is too dope and while 144hz is awesome, it's not essential especially as just some non-pro. It is really nice though.
>>341684694
Want to see you running TW3 at 144 with that.
But you clearly just play CSGO and OW.
>>341684694
Not on ultra, you cuck.
60/ultra >>>144/dogshit low
>>341685137
He can't.
I'm running a 2500k at 4.6 w/2133mhz and a 1070 and I barely hit consistent 60 maxed out.
Witcher 3 is a fucking insanely tough game to run.
MUH 144hz at shitty resolution. Good luck hitting anywhere near that on 1440p and above that's not a shitty source fps
>>341685291
That CPU is most likely a bottleneck
>>341685143
>>341685137
I'm running most games maxed out, and no, TW3 is not one of them.
>>341685416
With 2133 and 4.6, it's not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frNjT5R5XI4
Why is the QC on the PG279Q such fucking garbage? I've been through four of these things and none of them didn't have a piss yellow white and dead pixels.
It's weird how much better high frame rate. It's so smooth and I've gotten used to it on my pc so much that when I started playing bloodborne on my old ps4 it looked like a fucking flipbook and I could barely stand it.
About to get an i5 6600K and a 1080 once the market will let them exist longer than 10 minutes at a time.
Should I get a 1080/120hz, or an ultrawide 1440/60hz? Is there even a monitor that's 1440/120z that exists other than the Acer overkill?
>>341685591
sure you get a good performance boost, but with the same kind of OC on skylake you'd get at least 20% more frames
wwitcher 3 and gta5 in particular have great scaling with latest cpus + ddr4
>>341686093
But the key point is that it's not a bottleneck.
Nothing GPU related is being held back by the CPU, it's just that current CPUs are better utilized in gaming.
In the end, the new hardware will be faster, but that's true of nearly everything.
Now, in about 2-3 years, with DirectX12 gaining use, it will be time to update.
>>341684357
>Yeah, it makes SP games more enjoyable too
Can you tell me exactly how it makes games more enjoyable? What do smooth frames mean exactly?
>>341686540
>What do smooth frames mean exactly?
Better reaction times (in some cases), smoother and higher refresh frequency makes a game much more visually pleasing
>>341685790
>Should I get a 1080/120hz, or an ultrawide 1440/60hz?
>GTX 1080
Both are good choices and pretty overkill with the 1080.
Do you want picture quality? Get the 1440
Do you want smooth frames? Get the 1080
You can't go wrong with either.
>>341680053
144hz for competitive games, personal preference frames/res for all other games
>mfw I only now know you can go above 60fps
Is it a big deal? Can't the eye not see above 60 frames or something?
1080p at 144hz BUT
BUT
You have to get an IPS panel. No matter what you get, it has to be IPS or you are going have a poorer experience for the entire life of the monitor. People will try to tell you that because TN panels are just a little bit faster you should buy a TN panel, but I guarantee none of those motherfuckers are good enough that the milliseconds of input delay make any difference anyway - especially when most people aren't even playing on LAN and are dealing with server latency and shit ANYWAY. Get IPS.
Also, bite the bullet and save a little more to get a monitor with adaptive sync. Free-sync if you have an AMD gpu or G-sync if you're into Nvidia. Unless your card can jackhammer-fuck any game you play at 144hz, you will either have screen tearing or a lot of microstuttering. Adaptive sync will change your fuckin life. You can't fully grasp the difference it makes until you actually see it working. When you read about people who say they'll never go back once they have it, they aren't bullshitting. In fact, I would take a 1080p monitor at 60hz with g-sync over a 144hz one without. Still, go for IPS regardless of what you get. Unfortunately I can't actually recommend any monitors like that off the top of my head ( I saved up for an acer xb270hu )
anyway good luck anon
>>341687162
If it's possible to get a 1440/120hz, would it be possible to play most games on High and still hit 120fps?
Which looks better ultimately? 1440p games on High/Near Ultra at 60 frames, or 1080p on High/Near Ultra at 120? In your opinion?
>>341687497
Is the difference between IPS and TN really that big? I've read that TN is only bad because of viewing angles but I'm only going to be looking at monitor directly in front anyway?
>>341687509
>If it's possible to get a 1440/120hz, would it be possible to play most games on High and still hit 120fps?
With the GTX 1080? Yup. Most games but obviously not all.
should I OC my ram?
>>341687509
>Which looks better ultimately?
I can't answer that. Everyone has their own personal preference and you're just going to have to decide yourself. If you can, go to your local shop and try both out.
>le run everything on medium to hit 144mhz meme
144hz beats the fuck out of anything 60hz. It's not even a debate.
>>341687971
Dammit, this is all too troubling. Do I bite the bullet and get a monitor that may never really get the use I want out of it, or go for less for a more reasonable monitor that won't have to deal with the bullshit of trying to get over 100 frames without looking like dogshit?
I don't know how you people make decisions like this without agonizing over it.
>>341688164
Unfortunately, none of the nearby shops demo their monitors. Which makes it infuriating, because there's literally zero way I can see for myself.
>>341687728
Colors look far better on an IPS panel, much more vibrant (not in a 'turned up the saturation' way, its like the difference between a car with an old paint job and a car with a fresh, new one)
Also, viewing angles on TN range from 'can turn your head slightly and still see the screen' to 'picture is always fucked up unless you put your neck in a splint and strap yourself to your chair'. So if you sit up too high or slouch or otherwise aren't in just the right position, your picture isn't going to look as good as it should. It seems like a small complaint, but it makes sense when one considers how long they'll be using a monitor, especially for gaming.
>>341685790
I saw a Zotac 1080 on Newegg earlier today. Not sure if it's still in stock.
Than again
>Zotac
>>341686540
Can you see the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps? It's the same shit only way smoother.
4k60hz IPS masterrace
60hz should be a thing of the past already.
1440p 144hz freesync/gsync
>>341687497
1440p 60hz IPS or G-Sync 1080p 144hz TN?
>>341687728
Even looking straight forward a TN distorts the colour they look like absolute shit
Can someone tell me what fucking graphics card runs all these games at 144mhz? Jesus
>>341688787
TN is fucking awful.
>>341688393
>>341686986
Is it only noticeable in FPS games?
I mostly play RTS, will the 60+ frames be noticeable to me?
>>341688953
But so is 60hz
>>341689069
But so is 1440p
>>341688947
The card doesn't have to run the game at 144fps to see any difference. It's already noticeable at around 70
>>341689151
How is 1440p awful?
>>341686540
see video for example (make sure the video quality is set for 60 FPS to see difference)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChsT-y7Yvkk
now this video shows 30 FPS vs 60 FPS in motion.
a lot of high end monitors do 120 or 144 hz refrsh so you can only imagine how much smoother it would look. Youtube can only do up to 60 fps videos so i cant show you and example of 144 hz
>>341688787
This hurts my heart to even think about.
The advantage of g-sync at a refresh rate that high cannot be overlooked, but the actual quality of the image will always be inferior to the IPS panel. Looking at it purely from the perspective of someone who just wants the highest performance, I'd say to go for it, but why spend that kind of money when you could save up a little extra and have it all?
1440p at 60hz is pretty, but at that resolution (and without adaptive sync) you run the risk of having screen tearing or shitty v-sync stuttering as your frames would fluctuate a little more, unless you're rocking a beefy card.
>>341689774
I can't even imagine something running above 60 FPS. I always thought 60 was like the max that the eye could see or something.
Now I am very intrigued and might even get one myself just to see. Is it worth it and is it expensive?
Even shitposting in 144hz is much better than 60hz
144hz lets you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch
>they didn't have a GPU that could run Counter-Strike at 100 fps back in the glory days
omg fuggin lord how young and/or noob are you?
>>341690406
1080p 144hz monitors have come down in price a lot now, especially if you catch it on sale you can score a very good one under 200 bucks.
>>341680053
Depends on the games you play/enjoy most imho. Racing, action, competitive, etc... Go for the 144hz. Stuff that's more cinematic and less dependent on precise inputs (grand strategy, VN, maybe platformers), go for the 1440p.
>>341690406
>Is it worth it and is it expensive?
Yes and it depends on other factors such as resolution and whether or not it's got an IPS or TN panel. A lot of people go for 144hz TN panels are whatever resolution they like, because that's what pro gamers tend to do (in the interest of maximum performance in optimal conditions,) but for everyone else I think IPS is much better. The difference is pretty substantial. My first impression when I started using mine was that moving my mouse felt like pushing a hockey puck across the surface of a mirror. It's fucking insanely smooth. Scrolling in the browser is insanely smooth. Everything glides, it's fucking awesome
>>341680053
4K 120hz OLED with 0.1ms response time.
>get the fuck on my level, poorfags
In terms of importance
120hz > IPS (OLED if you're rich) > 1440p > 144hz
So basically prioritize getting 120hz+, then next step is getting IPS, followed by a higher resolution.
>>341680053
>tfw 2k IPS 144Hz master race
>>341691117
>>341691030
I'm just now realizing I don't know anything about monitors.
I've been playing everything on 48 inch 1080p TV from 07.
>>341690620
>go from an nvidia tnt2 to a radeon 9600gs
>smokes no longer bring you down below 10 fps
good times
>TN
>ANY year
Christ you people.
So I've got some money lying around and my monitor of 12+ years has been flickering an awful lot as of late, would the MG279Q be a decent option for an AMDfag?
>>341690210
After going through all that you wrote I feel like I'll be happier with the 1080p TN G-Sync.
I say this because I feel like I'll be enjoying smooth frames more than image quality and color.
Or am I underestimating the the image quality of an IPS monitor?
>>341691117
too bad it's attached to that POS laptop
5930k 4.7 OC, Zotac GeForce GTX AMP! Extreme 980ti reporting in, poorfag
4k 210hz
>>341691457
>MG279Q
Enjoy your backlight bleeding and having to retun that thing 4-7 times.
>>341691457
i have that monitor and its great, you just gotta hope you dont get a fucked up panel
>all these 1080p plebs
I scoff at you.
>>341691467
besides the 60Hz, if you can't afford the 144Hz, the only downside of IPS is the light bleed on the blacks
>Finally get a fancy dell ultrasharp monitor
>Have to return it because an insect got stuck in the screen
>>341691619
>
Bow down
>mfw 1440p ultrawide 100hz
Ahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAIf devs don't put in support I force it in or pirate their shit
>>341691117
>5000 dollars
WEW
>>341691903
when I can justify upgrading this bad boy an ultrawide is right after SLI, that shit is so dope
>>341691580
>>341691585
fugare there even any other 144hz/1440p/IPS/freesync options
Where the fuck are the 1080/144/IPS panels? Jesus Christ, they plan this shit on purpose to get people buying more expensive meme monitors. I swear.
>>341691467
Well, if you're used to TN already then it's going to be a nice upgrade regardless. I don't want to overstate how much better IPS is, but I can't understate it either. The difference is immediately noticeable - especially with blacks. IPS gets far deeper blacks than TN, so dark objects/low light environments look properly dark. Sometimes you get light bleeding along the edges, but quality control these days is getting better and it's not as bad as it used to be.
That said, g-sync makes for a much better gameplay experience. If you have to choose, you probably would like the TN more. The smoothness and not having to deal with tearing or stuttering is just too good to pass up.
Currently using an average quality glossy IPS that I got for $100. But tempted to get an XL2411Z for CSGO. Are those 144hz gaming monitors really as ugly as they say? I love the deep blacks and high contrast on my IPS.
>>341680053
If you have Nvidya you can DSR higher resolutions on the 1080p monitor
>>341692178
theres an acer model thats more or less the same thing with supposedly slightly better QC
>>341692201
dude just get a 2k, it's life changing
>>341692178
the Acer XB270HU that I have is IPS 1440p 144Hz GSYNC
It's your own damn fault for buying AMD crap
>>341692259
Maybe when 1440p IPS G-Sync monitors aren't so expensive I'll get those next but for the next 5 years I hope my 1080p TN G-Sync monitor will keep me happy. Thanks for the help!
>>341692201
1080p is a dying.
>>341692712
Don't worry, it will. You're welcome anon!
Who /IPS/ here?
>implying I need a 500hz "gaming" meme monitor with 2 milliseconds better response time
120/144hz
also supersampling exists, people who say 60 is as good as 120/144 have never tried it
>>341685291
>Witcher 3 is a fucking insanely unoptimized game. And pollacks coded their game using stones which they repeatedly smashed at keepots.
>>341693437
I have both, suck my ass
>>341681931
720p seems too low for me, at that res the UI starts to become too big and it hampers my ability to see what I want to see
>>341680053
>falling into the 144hz meme
please no
>>341695668
look at this 30hz console fag talkin
get the fuck out
>>341694572
Downsampling isn't as good having actual high resolution monitor. It's basically just very, very high quality anti-aliasing.
>>341695668
>he thinks the human eye can only detect 60 fps
you can't make this shit up
So I've had a flawless XB271HU for a few months now. I set it up and forgot about it, thinking that you couldn't really notice g-sync at all and feeling scammed as fuck.
I just realized that up til a recent nvidia update, gsync didn't work on windowed mode, and that you had to actually change it over for it to work.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT. IT LOOKS AMAZING. SO GODDAMNED SMOOTH. HOW AM I THIS RETARDED!?
>>341695896
true, but I'll take high fps over 60fps anyday
>>341695896
DS3 purposefully puts my resolution at 4k on my 2k and downsamples
>>341696091
>gsync didn't work on windowed mode
It doesn't?
That sucks. I like to play at windowed borderless mode.
>>341696252
That's the thing! It works now! But you have to go into the nvidia control panel and change it to windowed/borderless window mode and oh my fucking god how did I live without this?!
>>341696252
didn't
>>341696431
>>341696419
Oh lol my bad and gratz on getting it to work.
Is the difference huge?
>>341696659
not him but I have the XB270HU, literally the same monitor but less edgy, and it's fucking insane
>>341696659
It is! It makes framerates over 60 look silky goddamned smooth. I've only got a 970 so 1440p is a strain for a bunch of games in max settings, but it makes Fallout 4 at 45 fps feel like it's at 60. No screen tearing at all, no visible skipping. I'm both amazed and enraged at the fact that I didn't try it sooner.
Before literally 15 minutes ago, I would have said 144>1440p>gsync, but I'm now gsync/freesync>1440p>144
>>341696956
I KNOW! Oh my god!
>>341697069
When I played Fallout 4 I was actually kind of taken aback, so much so that I didn't like it and dropped it down to 85
But Battlefield 4? Oh my god, give me 144 all day
fellow >60 fags, do you agree with me that 120 or 144 are pure butter but it's still really sexy as long as it's around 90 or so?
I could never go back to only 60
120hz
>>341697534
It breaks fucking HORRIBLY on Fallout 4 since that game and Skyrim have engine locked framerates, so it autotanks itself down to 15ish fps.
UNLESS you do this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1580534/fallout-4-getting-g-sync-and-a-capped-60-fps-to-play-friendly
Then it looks dope. Try it!
>>341697534
FO4 runs like shit for me in the downtown areas. It's a locked 72 everywhere but there where it's a 30 fps shitshow. I am playing in 1440 with a shitload of 4K textures though.
>>341697590
I agree with you, but having grown used to 1440p, getting those framerates on max settings on modern games is insane. Even the GTX 1080 can't reliably hit 120 unless you're talking an older, well optimized game like Bioshock infinite on 1440, and it can't really break 45 on less optimized games like Metro Last Light.
You might be able to stay over 120 on most games if you SLI it, but I've always felt like SLI is really, really wasteful.
I just wanna max out modern games at over 60 fps, and play casual shit like LoL and dota at 144 at 1440p.
>>341697590
some games get that over sharp HD TV look that I hate when up at 144 yeah, but for the most part I want it above 100
>>341680053
Had to get a 144Hz monitor because my eyes are sensitive to screen tearing, I'm never going back.
