is Valenwood not the best location for TES VI?
>>341678920
that picture is so dumb, valenwood flag is not just the skyrim flag symbol with flowers around the fuck
>>341679132
you got a problem bitch? I photoshopped that pic like 2 years ago, it looks like it could be a professional logo
>>341678920
>Mer homeland
no chance, fag
>>341679227
Redo it with this logo.
Too small
Needs to be valenwood/elswyre
>>341679748
see: this memo from 2014
bitch ass
>>341679876
>le Elder Scrolls in-game maps are exactly to scale
fuck off retard, Bethesda can make the in-game version of Valenwood 3 times the size of Skyrim and it'd be totally fine
>>341679930
>>341679748
Between the memo and todd mentioning that they need more tech for the next TES, its almost confirmed that valenwood is the next location.
They need the tech for the moving tree cities
>>341680140
They could, but that'd be dumb
I'd rather have variety than a Skyrim sized forest
>>341680308
Valenwood doesn't have to be exclusively forest. I remember when Skyrim was announced people were worried about terrain variety and that turned out fine
>>341680248
>He believes Todd's lies about his future lies
Jesus Christ dude
>>341680248
they're still using Creation though which is absolutely ridiculous, saw it mentioned on their career applications
>>341679132
>skyrim flag
Is it 'Vaylen' or 'Vallen'?
>>341679132
>skyrim flag
please go and stay go
>>341680771
mutt
Would have prefered hammerfell because i like deserts but valenwood is fine to i guess
>>341680885
answer the question
>>341680248
there's no way in hell moving tree cities won't get transcription error'd.
>>341680928
>Vaylen
that's my guess
>Moving trees that wouldn't be in the game
>Cannibal societies that would be dumbed down horribly in the game
>Tons of other weird super high fantasy shit that wouldn't be present in the game because Bethesda are too incompetent to implement.
>>341680947
its powered by creation engine though.
It will just work.
>>341681164
Todd has learned his lesson with Fallout 4. they're retooling the engine and hiring new writers
No the argonians homeworld so ralph can go home
>>341681256
Quit talking in third person, Howard.
>>341679132
Just an FYI: that symbol is the symbol of Akatosh, not Skyrim(the place or the game)
>>341681256
>retooling the engine
What
You mean they are still using the same shitty, buggy, crashy decade-old piece of shit. Why don't they just get a new one?
>>341681647
If he had played morrowind he would have known this already the faggot
>>341680140
So far each region post Daggerfall has been to accurate scale. I don't see a reason why they would stop doing that now.
Besides, adding Elswyr brings so much more potential, since the Khajiit and Bosmer are mortal enemies with a fuckton of history, but are forced into an alliance.
>>341681990
>each region post Daggerfall has been to accurate scale
false
What would your ideal story for TESVI be?I'm all for a prelude to Landfall, or perhaps delaying it somehow
>>341680308
>not wanting an elder scrolls game with parkour style tree climbing for bosmer/khajiit/lizards, magic tree climbing for dunmer/altmer/wizards and brute tree climbing for orcs/nords/gorillas
>not wanting dungeons/cities up in trees
>not wanting enemies to ambush you with archery from up in trees
disgusting
>>341682335war of the blue divideyou can side with bosmer and use the wild hunt to drive the altmer out if you want but it is canon that you side with altmer and begin cleansing the forest of filthy mermonkeys
>>341682335
Numidium exits the warp.
All Altmer (including the PC, if applicable) turn to Fanta and blip from existence.
Game ends.
TESVI wins multiple GOTY awards and is praised as a postmodern masterpiece of the gaming world.
>>341680248
>moving tree city
>when you move, it doesnt move
>when you wait or load another cell, it teleport around predefined destination
ez pz.
todd might want to replicate the rng glory of daggerfall seeing how hard he is for radiant quests in skyrim and fo4 as well as his disdain for writing in general. It also force him to work less while force the player to play longer.
>>341683649
>>341682335
I'd go with Landfall just for the chance of getting to see the Numidium rendered in current gen graphics
>monstrously huge trees
>cities in the canopy
>almost all vertical
Not unless they bring levitation back.
im just wondering, if they do valenwood, how many of the gorilla beast people will they make if they make any at all
>>341685178
they will be reskinned trolls
>>341685330
could be worse, at least that would be including them
>>341681256
>tell me sweet little lies
>>341679930
Why is nuka-world on there? It doesn't really fit with the rest
>>341684591
I really hope not. I'm not against randomization in general, but Bethesda does it so lazily and it's really obvious.
>>341680248
Todd Howard says a lot of things pleb
Right now they have nothing.
Gamebryo 4.0 is a potato and with the launch of Fallout 4 even the casuals started to notice that.
Howard saying they have 2 other projects as big as Fallout 4 and Skyrim is another lie. What he actually means is LEAVE US ALONE WE HAVE NOTHING RIGHT NOW STOP ASKING ABOUT ELDER SCROLLS 6 WE NEED DEVELOPMENT TIME.
Stop falling for his shitty memes
They need to put some serious work in the engine and that will take time.
>>341680771
The hot bosmer in ESO spell it as Vaylenwood.
>>341685056
Real talk. I can model numidium and post good pic later.
>>341678920
They should pick a more programming friendly location like Hammerfell. There's no way they can do Valenwood justice. It will be an even bigger lore clusterfuck than Cyrodiil.
>>341687041
I might just hold you to that anon
>>341687304
>turns out the dominion has been slowly burning or removing the forest since they subjugated the wood elves
>half the province is barren landscape
>>341687304
Like they give a fuck about muh lore
Can't you go to Valenwood in TESO I don't play that shit but I'm pretty sure it has all the areas
>>341687304
Cyrodiil got fucked because Ken "durr hur make it lotr, forget about nibenese and colovnians, Jungles are too strange" Rolstcuck
>>341687304
like what, the migrating trees? the trees stopped migrating because of the thalmor's fuckery
>>341678920
No, Elswyr is as I want my kitty waifu that I was denied in on Skyrim.At least there is Morrowind, in which the canon waifu is a khajiit
>>341678920
Elswery or gtfo!
>>341685173
Fuck I would be so down for that, I miss Levitate. I miss a bunch of Morrowind's magic honestly.
>>341687661
Better explanation than fucking CHIM or a dragon break but still disappointing.
>>341687952
>>341687957
You'll make a fine rug, cat!
Hammerfell is still most likely. Mostly human based, environment is easier to create and there were a lot of references to it in Skyrim. I know it's been done before like 3 times but not really properly.
>>341687952
>>341687957
Why not combine the two into one game game? Neither area seems like it would be big enough for its own standalone game.
Knowing Bethesda though, I'm sure they'd fuck it up.
>>341688458
I didn't notice any more references to Hammerfell than any other part of Tamriel. If anything I would expect Valenwood or Summerset just to get to this Thalmor subplot that was brewing.
>>341688458
as long as theres pirating quests on stros m'kai i wouldnt be too bummed, though i would prefer we finally go into the more elven of realms in tamriel
We really haven't seen much of elven provinces. This could be interesting.
>>341680248
maybe they want to reform the combat and make the game not feel like a physics sandbox. maybe. this is just wishful thinking desu.
>>341688106
>spot a guy who has no idea what's he talking about
Also this goes for all of the thread
>Spot people who don't know jack shit about Valenwood
There aren't many walking trees, all walking trees are group of trees together with the giant walking Tree City Falinesti.
Falinesti has rooted itself before Oblivion crisis and it has never been stated if Falinesti has started to move again.
It's also a tower and most likely was deactivated.
I would love a game about Akavir. I want to see the Cat/Dragon and Snake people.
>>341688821
Well now that I think about it all the areas got represented to some degree. I guess the whole Aliki'r quest got stuck in my mind. I don't recall a single reference to Valenwood though.
It's going to be set in WE WUZ KANGZ land.
>>341688821
SummerSet did not allow any non-Altmer on the Isles even during the Empire, only a few diplomats here and there.
Non-Altmer literally do not live on SummerSet, they don't even have much use for slaves because most of their cities are magiteched to fuck.
Same goes for Valenwood, difference being that Valenwood is so hostile that most races do not want to live there anyway, you cut off a tree or pick a flower and bunch of Bosmerniggers jump out and shoot your ass.
>>341689286
They literally was kangz though
>>341689302
>Try to get ingredients for potions in a Valenwood game
>Bosmer are on your ass faster than an Imperial guard.
Sounds fun.
>>341689302
That's a big problem. We'll never see those areas unless they retcon it, or they give us multiple provinces, because the casual audience will not want to play in a world with nothing but elves or cat people.
>>341689807
Wrong. Cat people would be perfectly fine but they would have to be less furry.
>>341685173
Fallout 4 had jetpacks, they could totally bring back levitation.
I have a feeling that Elder Scrolls 6 is going to take place across at least 2 zones
>lorefags
>>341687724
god that game is a fucking chore
>>341690136
I didn't play far enough into Fallout 4 to get a jetpack, but how did they deal with the walled city areas?
>>341687724
No, you can't access all the areas
And ESO is lore accurateish in Valenwood...except it's boring as fuck in there because it's all same shit
>>341691654
For Hancock's city, you could jetpack over the city wall and a loading screen pops up.
>>341692608
>tfw levitation might b-back
Make it consume magicka really fast, sort of like magical hand jets.
Would work in modern bethesda game design.
>>341692608
You know what in World of Warcraft game that came out in 2004 after that loading screen you'd be landing inside that zone
>>341692608
I guess that's better than an invisible wall. I'm slightly impressed.
>>341687957
>Elseweyr
>Wanting Khajiit lore to get transcription error'd because Bethesda would never go and model a dozen different breeds
No, fuck that. Keep the games as far from that province as you can until Bethesda gets new management and competent, ambitious developers.
>>341693919
Its just a different kind of invisible wall you dunce
SAY IT WITH ME
TES VI: AKAVIR
Aren't we to a point where we could get multiple regions in the same game yet
>>341695521
yeah its called The Elder Scrolls: Arena
>>341695521
could be done but not entire regions at that point you are doing quantity over quality
game world should be about the same size as Skyrim
I can't believe you guys are still hopeful for the next Elder scrolls game. It's just going to be like FO4 all over again, shitty dialogue, no RPG elements, shitty generic quests, unmemorable story that will make no sense, the lore will probably be fucked to hell and back, you're character will have a predetermined backstory and if it is set in valenwood there will most likely be no moving tree cities in the game at all. I mean, for fucks sake this is Bethesda we're talking about. They've become the most incompetent and lazy company in these past years.
>>341696874
Yeah but I've played every game in the serieson releaseand I can't stop now
>>341694220
>loads you into the city
>the same as an invisible wall
Shut the fuck up
Argonia or bust
we did fucking elves 2 games ago, needs more triumphant lizardmen
>>341695923
>implying bigger isn't always better
small dick cucks confirmed
>>341696874
Dialogue is not big thing in Elder Scrolls and no they're not going to give your character a backstory because this is Elder Scrolls not even BGS is that retarded
You are right about a few things this is Bethesda Game Studios the most predictable game company out there by far people should know exactly what to expect from them.
Witcher 3 has put anything this company can make to shame. Not even interested in anything bethesda does now, because it will always be inferior
Can't wait for the Radiant AI. It's been, what, ten years since Oblivion was released? All those promises made can finally be implemented thanks to technology.
>>341697935
Come back when we can make our own character in Witcher 4.
>>341696874
>moving trees
I want this meme to end
>>341688997
>>341679227
how does that shit look like it could have been made by a professional? it looks like it could have been made by me or in other words amateur quality
>>341697935
Witcher 3 seemed really generic to me.
Valenwood, Elswyr, and the Black Marsh all in one, make the map giant as fuck
Who gives a shit about the story, Bethesda can't write a decent narrative to save their fucking lives anyway. Just let me haul ass from a forest to a desert to a spooky swamp and back again.
>>341697935
Witcher is a completely different game and you know it, more importantly majority of the audiences feel it.
Bethesda games are shoddily made, but still unique games, they are
>open as much as possible fuck around simulators
Perfect formula for the most time sinkiest genre possible and perfect for big audiences.
Witcher is a more linear game with set amount of hunts and quests, it has an ending and despite it being more open than Witcher 1 and 2 it is at the same time more linear in it's interaction with the world than any TES game, both on mechanical level like picking random shit up and throwing it around and even on the quest level, where most of the quest branches in Witcher come as defined points where you actually chose as opposed to TES quests that when done good can be altered by pure agency of the player.
Now Witcher 3 is a better game, but it is also a lot more classical in what it does and how it does. Bethesda to this day has no competitors in this genre, because at the end of the day when I completed Witcher I felt great and comfy but only replayability value came from trying to do harder difficulty, as opposed to Skyrim which might be casualized shit but you have more random agency in the world itself.
Of course there is also an argument about mods, with TES games being a lot more of an open system you can actually mod them to be survival simulators or rape dungeon games as opposed to Witcher where mods will never be of the same intricacy and fidelity, I mean look at stuff like Tamriel Rebuil and Enderall.
>>341697935
witcher 3 is a linear open world
even fucking gothic is closer to elder scrolls than witcher
>>341690319
>faggot
>>341681735
Why would you want to play morrowind when Oblivion exists? Ew.
>>341699209
>Linear
>Open world
>LINEAR
>OPEN
>WORLD
What's even the point of making any more Elder Scrolls if they won't live up to Breath of the Wild?
>>341700750
If Breath of the Wild can manage to be half as good as Skyrim when it comes out.
>>341700750
Mainly for the roleplay elder scrolls provides, in zelda games your objectives and progression are quite linear whereas you can pick and choose almost all aspects of your progression in elder scrolls games, along with better customization to role play with.
I sincerely hope we don't get voice acted main characters in the next elder scrolls, fallout 4 really suffered by having a voiced protag.
>>341681990
Elsweyr and the Khajiits are not marketable to the console audience. There's a reason why they made Cyrodiil a temperate forest instead of the jungle it was supposed to be - because they want to make it dudebro-friendly. Skyrim was the obvious next choice in the line of appealing to console players. Next one is going to be Hammerfell.
>>341700918
>Half as good as the worst elder scrolls game
Shouldn't be too hard.
>>341701148
I don't know, its been a hot minute since we've had a decent Zelda game and even longer since we've had a great one.
>>341700643
yes, a linear open world
there is an element of linearity in any game no matter how open it claims to be
witcher 3 prefers linearity to it's quest progression, world is divided into instances and player agency is somewhat limited in favor of a more streamlined and focused experience
you know exactly what I mean
Why would anyone want a game sent in the limp wristed pansy elf land?
>>341701117
>Console boogeyman ruining muh games
>Blatant baseless assertions
Forest is a much better location for the capital than a jungle, forest are much more fertile and spacious, a jungle would have just convoluted the atmosphere.
It's more a stylistic choice to better show the empires might by using majestic forests rather than creepy damp and humid jungles. Probably the best choice bethesda ever made was to set the best game in the series in the best biome.
>>341682054
>>341701503
Well, they aren't going to do Valenwood either, because it's too gay for Bethesda and their console audience.
>>341700750
Are people on /v/ all under 18? Or do you just play one sort of game for your whole life?
I honestly do not understand how people can have experience, played through thousands of games and not realize the core differences in games, both what they provide and what people expect of them.
Breath of Wild is going to be even more streamlined than Witcher 3, it's open world is there for completely different reasons. People that play TES want to sit in an inn before going out to slay some monsters, deliver bounty to their faction etc. when aspects of TES games are done right it gives a feeling very close to that of a pen and paper tabletop RPG with a GM that is more into sandboxing than railroading.
>>341701503
Bosmer are savage though
>>341682054
It is though, that's one of the gimmicks that Beth has.
>>341701584
The Aztecs and Mayas had huge cities in "jungles", get the fuck out of here with that pseudoscience. Also, there's nothing more fertile than a jungle.
>It's more a stylistic choice
You will see that it isn't, because they will never make a game around Valenwood, Elsweyr, Black Marsh, Akavir or any of these console kiddie-unfriendly areas. What you will see is Hammerfell, perhaps with High Rock added to it, and then in the future they might do the entire continent, but you will never see them create a game around the furry or gay elves and try to sell it to the CoD kid audience.
I'd love it if the next game was set in Summerset. Any province would be fine really as long as it's not Hammerfell. Too many niggers there.
>>341701503
>He doesn't understand that bosmers are fucking metal
Dont you see! Elven supremacy is the only truth! It's just that altmer aren't the elven race that is supreme.
>>341702065
Missing the point entirely, what the fuck
>>341702550
Not at all. I'm demonstrating that their number one priority is appealing to the knuckledragging, mouthbreathing low IQ 12-year-old console subhumans. Ok? Every design decision is geared towards that, and it started with Oblivion.
Morrowind was still faithful to lore and everything, but then they went the dudebro way.
>>341701584
Except for we know or a fact that Cyrodiil was dumbed down because of Ken Rolston and several other old fags that hated MK's and Kuhlmanns work and wanted Cyrodiil to be more like in Arena, plus LOTR came out which game them further power.
It wasn't just Cyrodiil, they removed cultural differences between Nibenese and Colovnians and generally anything that was quirky and strange about Cyrodiil, all of it, even most of the Roman motives are missing and it looks more like a generic medieval shit.
>>341678920
No, Akavir is. Think of the potential.
>monkey people
>serpent people
>tiger people (not khajiits)
>snow demons that thaw out in the summer
>>341678920
why would akatosh be on the cover?
the Bosmer worship Auri-El
>Harmony is a Master level Illusion spell in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim that requires the use of both left and right hands and causes both creatures and people up to level 25 not to fight for 60 seconds.
>level 25
is that my level or enemy level
should i stay level 24 or ?
can someone explain this to me
>>341702934
Akavir has nothing to do with current Meta plot
not to mention that it is literally meant to be that land that we will never see
>>341702957
Enemy level
As in it's a shit spell that is useless because skyrim spell power does not scale
>>341702957
Okay so enemies have levels. I have no fucking clue how you are supposed to know what levels they are, but just note that most enemies said spell would be fantastic on, are probably immune to it. You are better off with a singular scaling spell.
>>341702957
Enemy level. It's completely useless. Skyrim magic is shit.
>>341696874
my only problem with FO4 was the dialogue system. if it goes back to Skyrim's I'll be happy
I don't care about standard RPG elements, FO4's system was the same shit as Skyrim and Fallout 3 just with a different presentation
>>341702957
It was so easy to fix this too
Make a perk called Spellpower, give it five tiers
Spellpower perk adds multiplicators to your damage spells and increases the level it affects
Max mltiplicator for level being like x3 or something, obviously mobs over 80 like Elder Dragons and Alduin should not be affected by any spell
>>341697935
Witcher 3 felt uninspired and just fairly dull imo. I even prefer Fallout 4's visuals, they seem more grounded in reality
I want a Tamriel vs Akavir conflict and we see the races Akavir has to bring to Elder Scrolls lore.
>>341701776
holy fuck man, you actually proved me wrong. this makes me hype as fuck for VI, maybe they'll actually go all out and do multiple provinces
>>341703097
>Akavir has nothing to do with current Meta plot
Which is exactly why they should do it, fuck off Todd and make the damn game.
Yeah, as if a modern triple A game could depict cannibalism.
>valenwood
>cannibal orgies and thalmor pacts going on. it's possible but a lot of valenwood lore like there being no traditional houses is probably gonna get shit on
>summerset
>crazy fucking architecture will get completely dumped but thalmor shit makes it also possible
>elsweyr
>average player will not buy a game set in the land of the furries. also khajiit race diversity will get shit on more than it has ever been
>black marsh
>average player will not buy a game set in the land of the scalies. also filled with deadly poisonous gas etc.
>hammerfell
>wide range of environments(deserts, forests,plains, mountains), mostly human population, thalmor hatred in the area, and most importantly, a noted god theory, like the dovakiin and nerevarine. most likely tes6 location with the player being the avatar of the hoonding
>>341703647
But why? Metaplot is actually interesting.
>>341702957
sooo past 25 harmony won't work ??
>>341678920
No, I want Hammerfell.
this concept art is beautiful and makes me want Summerset Isles desperately
>>341703675
um... anon... there is cannibalsim in fallout, and skyrim. Maybe not too explicit, but it's there.
>>341703689
I love structure of Imperial City
>White Gold Tower is where Nirn is
>Districts are distributed according to bodies of Aedra, obviously temple of the One is located where Akatosh is
>Serpent is Imperial Guards
>Mages guild is located where Magnus is
Wonder if there are more cities built to be fucking structures that make Towers near them or in them even more powerful. I imagine that to some extent a lot of SummerSet cities might be built in a similar fashion, of course Crystal Like Law is fucked bu still, structures that immitate Aurbis are always neat.
>>341703824
This is not concept art, this is not even promo art, this is shitty fan art at best.
>Them no values
>That confused lighting
>That muddy color scheme
This guy should visit /ic/ more.
>>341704008
art isn't objective
I just hope they reacquire the charm they had in Oblivion. I really think they should bring back Ken Rolston.
>>341703829
they've been pushing the wild hunt in the lore for a while. it might come up, but it's been hyped to be a little too non-consumer-friendly. like murderfucking everything and themselves
>>341704069
It's not, I can clearly see what this guy is trying to achieve though and he is failing at it.
Also I can go on a rant about how despite art not being objective it sort of is because ultimately our subjective preference of different aspects and techniques or art will be similar due to the fact that we are same species, grow up in similar cultures and get influenced by similar memes so there are ways to create maximum response and stimuli in largest audience, but whatever.
Are they going to make magic actually interesting this time around?
No?
Don't care.
>>341704159
oh and also there's the whole sharing of the name of a certain other possibly competing game franchise...
>>341703705
There's nothing interesting left to add.
>>341704253
I think he succeeded, you won't change my mind
>>341681647
>The law is sagred
>>341704280
when was it ever interesting
I remember magic breaking the game is that what you mean
>>341704069
>>341704253
But more objective point is that concept art is not actually art.
I am a concept artist myself and one of the first things that you need to get hammered into your head is that when you are making concpet art of a game you are making a blueprint for a product.
Lighting you are making has to be as similar to the final filters and lighting of the game as possible, style of your art will influence the models and textures of the game, atmosphere and sense of scale in your art will at least partially translate to the game etc.
That pic is not concept art, there is nothing in it that would provide enough information for the rest of the dev team to be useful, nor is it well done enough to be a promo art, it's just fan art.
Pic related is environmental concept art with a purpose to set the atmosphere and aesthetics.
>>341679930
Am I the only one that thinks that it's fucking retarded to give this out on paper. What if an employee were to just leave it out by accident? Sharing this information digitally would make a whole lot more sense which is why I think this leak is bullshit.
>>341704380
It literally just began, what do you mean nothing interesting to add? We have to go through all of the stages of conflict vs Aldmeri Dominion and Thalmor world ending ploys.
>>341704580
I don't care
>>341704575
variety of spell effects and combinations was pretty fun, and yes it being broken and OP was fun too, but ultimatley it felt good because you that magic was somewhat real because of how many effects there were, especially morrowind
People making you heavier then punching you to death, or variety of damage over time or direct damage spells, levitation, telekinesis etc. all of this felt like it was something someone would find useful and create with magic when magic gives you that much power as opposed to just fireballs and lightnings.
>>341704737
Just sharing a point, I suggest you don't fully ignore this because all information is useful.
>>341704687
>It literally just began,
We literally just killed the guy that ends universes, and played as shor. Its done m8
>>341701776
daggerfall is and was objectively shit though
>>341705229
Okay, you don't know shit about metaplot, be it larger metaphysical metaplot or smaller political one if you think that.
>We just killed the guy who ends the universes
Alduin was not his true self and could not even turn kalpic wheel, he was corrupted faggot that wanted to rule creation.
>killed
No, we broke his coil, he can not be killed because is major aspect of Aka, he will return.
>and played as Shor
Big fucking deal, we don't know for sure if you are a Shezzarine, there have been at least 6 of them before and that's not counting other TES protags who can be rationalized to be Shezzarines also.
If you think that Alduin is the biggest danger there is, I am sorry to burst your bubble but even fucking organized orders like the Psijic pose a far greater threat to the world as it is right now, Kalpa has went on for too long without resetting and certain mortals and Ada got waaaay too powerful, shit like Numidium exists that trumps any Et'Ada and it was made by mortals.
Metaplot literally just began.
>>341704102
>Ken Rolston
Morrowfags hate him because "Muh Jungle"
>>341678920
>skyrim emblem
>>341678920
at this point we know it will be safe watered down shit of a game so it doesn't matter
>>341682335
>>341683128
>>341685056
kill yourself cuckbride
>>341704590
It got a few things right
Fallout 4
Boston
Nuka World
What's questionable there is the fact that "Elder Scrolls" is not to be discussed at E3 2014 by BGS employees.
They had Elder Scrolls Online at E3 2014 which you could say well that's not BGS and the Zenimax Online team have nothing to do with BGS really it would make no sense for them to get this memo from BGS,different studios working on completly different projects.
there's a pretty good chance the leak is legit since fallout 4 is out and we know a lot of things now
In terms of Lore Valenwood is the worst place they could go after Skyrim
Unless they pull a full jew and catapult us 1000 years in the future where the war is over and Wood Elves somehow came out prosperous. (Hint: They're basically Thalmor cucks atm)
>>341678920
what gives location and lore if gameplay is shit?
>>341707815
Everyone is the thalmor's cucks right now besides the PC. It's just different levels of being a cuck.
>>341707346
Nuka World doesn't seem like something that has been planned for years
It's more community feedback and fanservice the DLC
>>341678920
blackmarsh, hellow. fuck off ya elff queer
>>341695004
>>341689137
>>341702934
Fucking hope its Akavir, getting dull to see only races from Tamriel. And might even find Nerevarine in there
>>341678920
elsweyr would be way cooler.
>>341708102
>implying the thalmor are a serious threat
>thinking they've actually accomplished much at all
So Skyrim was your first game?
>>341708102
Yeah but the Bosmer are straight up slaves
>>341708332
good luck trying to sell an RPG about talking cats to the wider market
>>341708423
No skyrim wasn't my only elder scroll friend. But the fact that they have the emperor eating their shit shows a good bit of power.
>>341708452
I am aware of this, doesn't mean the thalmor aren't shitting on other races aswell.
>>341708179
and who said that?
all I know is that Nuka World is the final dlc for Fallout 4 and they probably want to wrap up the story of Fallout 4 in this dlc
>>341708290
>Wanting a canon version of the Nerevarine
Did TESO ever become playable or is it still not worth bothering?
>>341709143
>TESO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>341706059
What do you mean?
>>341709143
maybe when the "One Tamriel" update comes out it will be worth playing
>>341709231
At least some of them blame him for the fact that Oblivion didn't look like a FarCry jungle and this was supposedly because he wanted the game to be like LoTR to attract the "casuals".
>>341709143
It is playable...well the thing is that depends on what you want from it.
If you are a lore purist who hates lore being fucked in favor of MMOishness you will hate it, like me. And I have to give ESO dues where they are due, they try to do lore, even deep lore like that letter where Dwemer are stated to basically time traveling wizards...but a lot of it feels forced and they have not fixed the fuck ups they've made with Amulet of Kings nor can they, and when they can't portray something because MMO limitations it's just pure shit, like Wildhunt in Mane quest looks like red glowing bosmer...Yes, The fucking Wild Hunt is just red glowing "feral" Bosmer.
>>341709231
He is a really old developer and a hardcore classical DnD/LOTR faggot. During Morrowind he was the anchor that balanced out Kirkbride so that Morrowind did not go full magitech sci-fi, once MK and Kuhlmann left he fucked up Oblivion and went full generic fantasy...then he left and Knights of The Nine with time Traveling Pelinal written by Kirkbride happened and Shivering Isles.
After that they re-hired Kuhlmann mid production of Skyrim and tried to artificially inject the stranger lore back into Skyrim while again artificially balancing it out, hence why a lot of Skyrim feel uninspired (though some of the new lore is neat).
What I mean by artificial is that it was more of a conscious decisions made by Todd and whole team as opposed to writers and devs letting it go creatively and doing what they want.
I guess both can work but seein how beth is going full
>target the widest audience
their choices are too calculative to be fun
>>341708423
they're the most threatening major faction by far and have so far gotten rid of
>crystal-like-law
>white-gold
>tree-sap
>snow-throat (kind of)
That's at least noteworthy and presents plot devices
>>341679132
>Skyrim flag symbol
This is almost as bad as "Skyrim's Shivering Isles DLC".
>>341710918
Crystal Like Law was destroyed due to Oblivion Crisis, no sane fundamentalist Aldmer would ever break a tower created specifically to achieve Dracochrysalis and escape Mundus.
>White Gold
Was destroyed when Amulet of Kings was broken, statue of Akatosh/Martin holds the veil now and it's technically a Tower.
>Tree Sap
Rooted itself during Oblivion crisis.
>Snow Throat
The only one that can be argued.
Listen most of the towers don't actually hold reality together. Red mountain did and Red mountain is fucked now because you freed the Heart of Lorkhan in Morrowind. Adamantine was the UR tower and it also holds Mundus together, but it's too early to fuck with it. Talos is obviously another one that they have to go after because he is convention 2.0.
But shit like Numidium, Crystal Like Law, White Gold etc. are Towers, sure, they imitate wheel/tower structure of Aurbis to manipulate, but all of these serve different purposes, Numidium was for apotheosis, Crystal Like Law is an escape route, White Gold was created to center the power so to say (whoever holds the White Gold Tower holds all of Tamriel).
>>341708102
So how cucked is Black Marsh?
>>341711416
less so, but black marsh is a pretty shit place to begin with.
>>341709082
did i say find him alive? :^)
>>341710495
>>341710873
I see. Thx for the replies bros
>>341702957
>skyrim is still too complicated for these fucking retards
>>341710573
>have not fixed the fuck ups they've made with Amulet of Kings
?
>>341701776
daggerfall doesnt matter. its like minecraft. just procedurally generated world
>>341713538
This is a big and long one but here we go
Amulet of Kings can not be accessed by any deity other than Akatosh and it's power can not be properly utilized by anyone but Dragonborn, that is a major point in Oblivion also because Mankar Camoran is a Dragonborn, hence why Dagon needed him to use the Amulet. Amulet in fact can't be even worn properly by anyone who does not have the Dragon blood.
Amulet of Kings was in Sancre Tor until Hjalti together with Wulfharth found it, in ESO the five broskis already found it in the tomb of reman and took it out for the whole duration of ESO's main quest, more importantly after ESO's main quest Tharn steals the Amulet and keeps it in Imperial city for a long time. This completely fucks with the notion that literally no one knew where the Amulet was hidden since Reman dynasty fell, this also fucks with the idea that Sancre Tor was first fucked by Hjalti and Wulfharth, not to mention the most obvious and glaring mistake, for history to go on as it should Tharn should lose the amulet, or he himself should take the amulet and then for unknown reason they have to go to Sancre Tor, find secret sealed Tomb of Reman again, place it on the dead corpse of Reman II again, seal it a way that it will seem like no one has been there, again AND most importantly forget about Sancre Tor, erase all information about Amulet of Kings and leave Sancre Tor for long enough so that it will get occupied. This make absolutely zero sense especially considering how soon the Talos conquest happens, I mean it's literally the same era like 300 years away. All of ESO struggles are pointless because they end with Talos conquering everything.
Amulet of Kings demonstrably broke when all of it's power was used by Martin to summon Avatar of Akatosh, which in turn was only powerful enough to strike down Mehrunes Dagon on Nirn and seal the veil again...
cont.
>>341679227
>it looks like it could be a professional logo
Shut the fuck up. You live at home with your mom and haven't ever done any kind of real work your entire life. It looks nothing like a professional logo. It looks like no fucking effort was put into it since you fucking used the skyrim emblem to begin with!
Go back to school, get educated, socialize. Stop making stupid shit up like 'hurrr its professional!!!'
>>341713538
>>341714350
You do the same thing in ESO quest except for you do it with a ritual, difference being is that
>You do not die or break your mortal form to turn into avatar of Akatosh
>You are not a Dragonborn, especially since there are several beings which are dead Dragons transformed and even just dead Dragoconic bodies which you don't absorb. No one and nothing refers to you as such and Talos being the only Dragonborn in this era is major point, Greybeards would fucking shout out of their ass and call you otherwise.
>When you do the ritual and absorb the amulets power it does not break and somehow will just restore it's power eventually
>You fight Molag Bal in his own realm and manage to actually defeat him again in his own realm with just a shard of Lorkhanic/Akatoshic power
>You also magically seal the veil without re-lighting the dragonfires or creating a new covenant
>Molag Bals' coil being destroyed in his realm somehow stops his conquest for no apparent reason
I could go on, but ignoring the inconsistency with lore, the worst thing that ESO main quest does is that it makes Martin's death stupid.
>Fuck it, this is my last chance and I know it will fucking kill me...but I have to use my soul together with all of the souls in the Amulet and incarnate as Dragon God of Time himself if we have even the slightest chance to save Mundus
And it turns out that his heroic sacrifice was pointless and stupid because apparently Amulet of Kings without breaking and without the need of a Dragonborn can grant power strong enough to "slay" a Daedric Prince in his own realm and it also restores the fucking veil magically without re-lighting Dragonfires OR creating a new covenant.
It's a giant mess.
>>341681256
>Sold his most successful game ever
>Learned his lesson
You New Vegas faggots are fucking delusional.
Get ready for Skyrim 2 to have zero dialogue choices, no skills, no stats whatsoever, a single modular sword, one set of modular armor, one playable race (multicultural human), and a completely linear cinematic story about finding your wife's son.
>>341714919
>New Vegas faggots
??
New Vegas fans generally hate todd and Bethesda, what are you on about
>>341715091
>New Vegas fans generally hate todd and Bethesda
That statement is not contradictory to what I've stated.
Bethesda games have become simpler over time. Proportionally, they have become more successful. Therefore, they have no incentive to change their design philosophy: continued simplification = greater profit
How mad would everyone be if Bethesda introduced a completely new location not in any prior lore as a setting?
>>341710573
I kind of like how they added more inner politics and history going on (the heritance faction trying to oust Ayrenn and install her brother and his wife), the reachmen being relevant, the deal with the Gold Coast storyline. Makes the world feel more grounded and believable, if you can get past the PVP Alliances
>>341716490
It's possible, depends on where it is.
We don't know much about Sword Isles and anything south of Tamriel.
>>341716751
They added the wrong type of inner politics at the wrong fucking time, most importantly at the expense of established lore.
The problem is that they wanted to pick a time period that was not too strange yet would be open enough for interpretation so they chose fucking Interregnum...which is a terrible idea because it's right around the corner for Tiber's conquest which is extremely well documented and if some strange shit happened in ESO that contradicts the period of conquest it can not be brushed off unless you involve metafuckery like Dragonbreaks.
At the same time, since I am a guy that was extremely disappointed by ESO shitting on lore which I care the most about while expanding the lore which I cared less about, I feel sort of good knowing that literally everything in ESO is pointless and ends with Tiber, Zurin and Wulfharth OP Cheat hax pls nerfing all of Nirn and erasing all the effort that any faction put forth in ESO.
>>341716779
That's kind of alluded to in prior lore
I'd rather prefer Akavir itself stay mysterious, maybe dropping more hints and teasers along the way. (A yagrum bargrum type memorable character that is one of its kind but is clearly a Snake-person?)
>>341678920
Valenwood is no longer an imperial province, it will not have the dragon emblem anymore. Also it is the best province because we have two towers left Greensap and Adamantia, and Adamantia is the main one, so they cant have it yet
also, I am pretty sure bethesda mentioned that the trees have stopped moving, why would they mention it unless they are planning to release a game in that province? they always simplify the setting before releasing a title
>>341717024
It's still one of many relative blank slates in Tamriel's timeline. Tiber is still 300 years away. There could be any number of wars and assassinations and the like during that span.
I enjoyed reading about the individual happenings and lifes of the Septim rulers, and of course Potema's war is one that sounds awesome. The autist in me would like a relatively complete timeline of everything happening in Tamriel (things being more difficult and broad to place in the earliest era of course). As of now it's kind of jumpy and riddled with blank areas, which presumably aren't actually blank. But you're absolutely right that Molag Bal invading mundus at the exact same time of total war is too much
>>341716218
but why would you think New Vegas fans are the ones that believe Todd has seen the error of his ways
They are usually his harshest critics
>>341717024
Isn't the entirety of ESO a big Dragonbreak? It's the only way to justify such a deep level of lore-fucking.
>lol reset button, none of this actually happened
>>341718315
>lol reset button, none of this actually happened
but thats the opposite of what a dragonbreak is. dragonbreak is:
>lol, dragon break EVERYTHING HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME
>>341718315
According to them, no. The characters and events are all canon and will be treated as such in the future- according to them.
But there are things clearly not as they should be. Not even the 'loljungle' thing, but you see books in the game world that were written centuries later into the future, by authors presumably not born yet. One of these examples even has a NPC that was in oblivion mentioned in the book. And they said that this whole book-timeline shit is actually intentional and part of an upcoming storyline...so if that isn't implying a Dragon Break then I don't know what the hell it is
>>341678920
Valenwood would confirm Bethesda are now designing their games based on memes. FO4's Minecraft settlement system was based on the hoarding meme, and now they're taking us to the Land of the Stealth Archers.
So is alchemy illegal in Valenwood?
>>341720890
alchemy doesnt consist only of plants
also the PC will do fuck all anyway
>>341719515
there isnt that much choice desu, its valenwood or hammerfel, they wont do Elseweyr, because furries and it wont be Black Marsh because they would have to do another chim chimeru trick to make it hospitable to other races
>>341719515
How exactly should they make a game so it wouldn't be a "meme"?
>>341705558
>>341714186
>Elder Scrolls """""fans""""""
>>341679132
Time to off yourself, Skyrimbabby.
Be prepared for:
Elder Scrolls VI: Skyrim 2
>>341723095
Don't you mean Oblivion 3?
>>341679132
>with flowers around the fuck
The what?
>>341714443
>skyrim emblem
Jesus, just stop.
>>341680771
Val-hal-en
Like Dr. Valhlen from Xcom.
>>341678920
Because who the fuck ever remembers the wood elves? Fucking no one that's who.
