Build a PC and judge others/ give suggestions
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hH6ZLD
Note: I may wait for the AMD Rx480 if it is truly going to be the level of the GTX 970 for only 200 bucks
Why get a sound card?
>>341666263
I am new at building a pc, don't I need the sound card so that I can plug in my speakers and shit?
>>341666537
Kek
Don't you realize your motherboard already has a sound card built in?
>>341666537
The motherboard comes with an integrated hd sound module
Honestly I bought a sound card and the sound was only a bit more clearer. But not a huge gap. It's a waste of cash imho
>>341666751
>>341666784
Oh, sweet. Didn't realize that. Like I said, I have never built a PC before, so I am trying to learn as much as I can before buying.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQTTWX
New list
>>341667013
Yeah the mobo also has a network adapter built it so you don't need to buy one.
>>341667013
Are you actually buying a 970? It's an older card that's already outdated. I mean I'd get 1070 or wait on the rx 490 in that situation
>>341665814
you dont need a cpu fan unless youre overclocking, which is impossible with the cpu you chose
you dont need a $150 motherboard. $100 tops
dump the sound card
>>341667291
This.
Though it's only for eternet.
WAS he was trying to get a wireless one?
>>341667509
>>341667291
This I didn't know as well. I thought I needed it for the Ethernet connection.
>>341667327
Yeah I was probably going to wait until the end of the month for the Rx490 at the minimum.
>>341667348
What is a good measure of what motherboard I should get?
>>341665814
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/r72Mpb
fixed the following: removed uneccessarily overpriced MOBO designed for unlocked CPU's and replaced it with a H series mobo that will just werk
got a cheaper case, it's not a decoration, just saved you $70 there.
removed audio/ethernet cards (wtf?)
replaced PSU with a moderately more powerful one of an equally reliable brand
vastly improved your gaming performance by going with a 1070, this build is ACTUALLY cheaper than your current one, even more so because the founders edition of the 1070 is a scam. get the normal edition to save $50. That brings the total build price to around $850.
I would replace the HDD with a 7200RPM one and maybe throw in a cheap SSD for your OS
>>341668348
forgot to mention also removed your aftermarket heatsink fan. The one Intel includes is just fine since you won't be overclocking.
This is my current rig
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tj83Cy
>>341667348
>you don't need a cpu fan unless you are overclocking
BUILD ME A $400 PC
FUCK YOU
>>341668968
buy a used ivy bridge i5 with its mobo and ram, get a r9 470, use a cardboard box or salvage a case
wa-la
>>341668862
He means a third party heatsink/fan, the OEM one will be fine for a locked processor.
>>341668862
The Intel cpu already comes with a stock fan.
>>341669097
whew, ok
>>341668348
>>341668561
This is great, thanks so much.
I replaced the HDD with Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 2TB and got a Kingston 120GB SSD
I5 4699
R9 380x
8gb ddr3 ram
W10
Asrock z97 extreme3
Shit/10
Fuck pc gaming and its infinite bluescreens. Utter bullshit.
>>341669073
I'll look it over
Thanks
>>341669161
Post updated pc part picker
>>341665814
bump your power supply to 750, you never know if you're going to add a second GPU
Make that HDD 7200 rpm
Pretty sure you don't need that network adapter OR that sound card as the motherboard should take care of both
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3MPpnQ
my original build.
>>341668719
RICH/10
Jelly
>>341669468
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RgdTWX
>>341669280
assrock will do that
>>341669280
>being this shit at rig building
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fGg9qs
I was thinking of replacing the 390 with a 1070.
>>341669493
dual gpu's are gimmicky as fuck and come with tons of driver issues. Some games out-right don't support multiple GPU's. No point in spending that much moolah on them considering a 600w pSU can probably run dual 1070's just fine nowadays. GPU's are becoming super power efficient.
>>341669694
remember not to buy the FOUNDER'S EDITION. It's a scam. The regular 1070 will retail for $379. You can probably find a decent multi-fan version of the 1070 for under $400 too
I'll post in here. 2k monitor and graphics card upgrade incoming. Do I really need a new CPU/Mobo?
>>341670156
Probably not, at least for the moment. In another year or two Vulkan and D3D12 games that bottleneck on 4 thread CPUs are going to start being more common. Hopefully in that time AMD succeeds in both boosting their single thread performance to get it back on par, and makes 8 core/16 thread CPUs the new standard.
>>341670156
no, why would you?
The GPU is what will be handling the 2k
>>341670590
>EVER buying an AMD processor
>>341670778
>tfw i bought an 8350>tfw 4790k gets here tomorrow
>>341670156
I would wait on the processor upgrade because it would entail new RAM + Mobo as well. I'd wait until Zen at least to see if AMD can finally compete. But that CPU looks like it should last 2-3 years if the last 3-4 Intel upgrade cycles are any indication.
Upgraded rig when the 1070 I want comes out. Goal is running 1080p/144hz games great and some VR. I have a SeaSonic 650W PSU that can handle this build, but it's getting old. So even if I should down watt, I'm going to get a new one regardless.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bj4Vnn
>>341670156
I have the same motherboard.
>>341670778
>waiting to see zen benchmarks
>if it's better than intel buy
>if not don't buy
wow that was simple
>>341670778
Intel CPUs will never be as good as they used to be until AMD is competitive again. You kids don't know how good the Mendocino Celerons were, or how great the early Athlon and Athlon 64 hardware was.
We will never again see a motherboard like the BP6 engineered to specifically enable a pair of $100 chips to be better in every way than the top of the line hardware.
>>341671328
>I'm waiting for zen
>>341671508
End of the year
>>341671589
sure
anons, did I do gewd? Also a Vive connected but that doesn't show up in speccy.
>>341671876
the hell do you need 6 monitors for
>>341671974
Production station anon. I'll often be working in 2-3 softwares at once and I like to have my tool sets not on screen with my render windows.
>>341671876
fist bump
>>341671974
I was gonna ask about his 20tb of storage but your questions answer kind of answers that too. fuck man, how do I get a job that can afford a $5000+ rig?
>>341665814
Hi friends, what should I upgrade?
>>341672204
>fist bump
Why hello haswell-E friendo.
>>341672781
Nothing will, I get random ass dips in DaS3 with two 980 Ti's. From Soft at their finest.
>>341671876
>SLI
no you fucked up anon
How does it feel knowing you scrubs will never have my godly computer and internet connection?
>>341670047
What exactly does the Founder's Edition do that the other ones don't? Literally just a name?
I went with the MSI GTX 1070
>>341672929
>4790k 4.00
>970
no
Friend's build he is going for atm:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dWTTWX
After hearing what the difference between on board audio and a sound card, dunno how any one could not get one.
It was like listening to music through a speaker of a phone.
What are HP graphics cards used for, i'm talking about the ones that cost around 7k?
>>341673049
>240Hz monitors
>>341669097
What's the general opinion on stock fans? Going to get an Intel CPU and I've been told the stock fans are quite shit. Never had a third party fan though, so I don't know the difference.
>>341673049
How do you watch blurey movies?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TomsSpaghetti/saved/ZwWWGX
>>341673523
I have a 6500 i5 and the stock fan was alright. Couldn't get the cpu over 40 something Celsius. I bought a cheap this party one and for a few degrees cooler, but of you don't oc it doesn't really matter.
>>341673029
>Almost perfect 100% scaling
Do explain as micro-stutter is only an AMD thing these days, screen tearing is a thing of the past and almost every single PC game out now and coming out is quite nicely optimized for it.
Playing games like Witcher 3, RoTR, Gothic Armada, Total War: Warhammer etcetcetc at 1440p 90~120fps is pretty great.
Rate pls
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MTB6hq
This is pretty much what I'd get if I had the money for it. Would replace the 980TI with a 1070 when it comes out.
>>341673049
>optical drives
>shiggydiggy
dads money
>>341673187
Nvidia literally change the name they use when describing their reference cards. That's literally it.
>>341673523
Fine if you don't intend on overclocking. Haven't had trouble whenever I decided to use one and where I live it's hot and humid.
>>341674063
What fucking kikes
>>341673685
Forgot to ask, rate please
>>341674395
>dual core cpu
>heatsink half the price of the cpu
Stopped reading they're.
>>341673971
>>341673971
if you're going that balls-to-the-wall then might as well get a 1080
>970
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJ823F
Waiting for non-Founders 1070
r8? This will be my first PC I build so any criticism or suggestions would be appreciated.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z6LBm8
>>341675397
It's really not that powerful of a system. A 1070 wouldn't be bottlenecked or anything.
>>341675768
The heatsink you buy comes with decent thermal paste. Just saying.
>>341675563
When is the release date?
>mfw Phenom 965, R7 370
I'm at the reboot Neo/Scorpio console level right now with one fucking cheap CPU and maybe a GPU upgrade. Fucking hilarious. Thanks everybody. Making PC gaming cheap as fuck.
>>341675986
Oh okay, that's convenient
>>341675997
Hopefully soon. The founders are out right now for $450~ but the blower-style fan is not to my liking.
>>341665814
I can't be bothered to read this thread's replies, but I can give you some tips: 'gaming' hardware is a meme, this means gaming motherboards, gaming memory, gaming peripherals, etc. Don't get something just because it says 'gaming' on the tin, but don't let it stop you either. Get it because it's quality equipment and it suits your needs, regardless of how it's marketed.
Your CPU comes with a stock heatsink, so you don't need to get an aftermarket cooler if you don't want to. Also great that you're getting more than 8GB of RAM, that's definitely the way to go.
If you want to save money, consider getting an AMD graphics card. They deliver decent performance on a budget. Nvidia performance tends to be slightly better, they're usually more efficient and run cooler (longer lifetimes), but you pay extra because of that.
What tower you want genuinely doesn't matter. Just make sure that your graphics card will fit inside it and that you like the way it looks. Also consider fan mounting points and hard drive bays. I also don't see any point in getting an independent wired network adapter, your motherboard already has an Ethernet port. If you want to have wireless for your desktop, get a motherboard that has a wireless adapter built in or buy one separately.
>>341675998
>Yfw Scorpio and Neo will both be more expensive at release than a comparable PC is now
>>341674395
seems like you're spending way more on razer gaymur shit than actual components. No need for a dual core cpu in 2016
>>341675918
you can skimp lightly on a few components, namely your cpu (to non-K) and your motherboard and have extra dosh for a 1080 which would improve your frame rate way more than an OC'd 6600k
>>341674395
>massive unnecessary cooler
>putting everything on a 4TB HDD it will eventually get slow as fuck.
>AMD cards and software are garbage.
>Windows 10 Home and not Professional
>Razer keyboard
>Literal who mouse
>Headset with "7.1" that you will never ever use
>Shit speakers
Sorry but this is complete garbage.
>>341675768
get noctua cpu cooler, prob ships with thermal paste
500w psu seems low
get 144hz monitor, its 2016 mate.
keyboard seems shit
>>341676254
Thanks for the advice, some was already covered but got some new info too.
I think I am gonna hold out for the AMD Rx480, or a non founders 1070. Interesting about the nvidia and AMD differences though.
>>341676384
500w is overkill nowadays, you should be able to run a 1080 or rx480 on a 430w for sure. I'm running an OC'd 3570k and a 290x on 550 watts just fine
>>341675768
>$30 mouse/keyboard bundle
the keyboard will probably be fine but the mouse is gonna be absolute shit
you don't need 16GB and you don't need RAM with fancy heatsinks. 8GB is fine. spending $70 on RAM is fucking asinine and better spent elsewhere. i would put it towards a case. the case you chose isn't bad at all, but you'll have enough to get a more quality case with more features imo
also, you might want to make that list newegg/amazon only if you plan on only buying from those stores, as some of those other stores have shipping prices. it's up to you
>>341675998
>965
Oh man the days when AMD made great CPUs
For figuring out if a motherboard is compatible or not, what are the main things I need to look out for in the specs?
>>341676467
If you are interested, read upon the recent generation of graphic cards, because it changed everything compared to previous years.
>>341676562
I heard if you use close to the max of psu it has less lifetime, and its always worth it to spend more for a slightly better psu.
>>341676664
socket type. it'll tell you on pcpartpicker
>>341676783
Recent as in 5 years?
>>341676384
Any good 144hz monitors you'd recommend?
>>341676664
A CPU and Motherboard need have matching socket type. Eg, a socket 2011-3 CPU will only fit on a socket 2011-3 motherboard.
>>341676576
All of your shitty features bar carbon fiber can be replicated with a drill and bolt cutters. Retards spend money on cases, craftsmen make their own cases.
Rate
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lonxu/saved/MRNmP6
>>341665814
Not video games.
>>341676942
Not that anon, but recent as in a month. The 1070 and 1080 have some major game changing technology in them.
>had a X4 965 for about 5~6 years from now
>stock cooler
>its hot and loud as fuck
>80°C at full load
>get a FX-6300 for free
>use the stock X4 cooler
>mfw 40°C at full load and 20°C idle
what the fuck
>>341677285A DUD?
>get new job to inspect and refurbish damaged/returned parts
>will finally get the money to build a PC
>only issue is space/cooling
Space I can eventually figure out a solution too, but cooling's an issue. I live in an attic with no insulation (shit house) and it gets fucking hot. What's the best way to cool a PC? Will slapping an industrial fan next to the fucker keep it cool enough?
>>341677038
9/10
decent barebones components, would throw in a mass storage device though. Perfect build for use right now, and throwing in a capable GPU later.
>>341677639
I didn't see the rx 480 placeholder, this is the build I'd get if I were in the market for a capable gaming PC
10/10
>>341677107
As well as the Rx series.
I want to play games but not comptetive fps'
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/38QsYr
Can I buy a decent rig on a $500-600 budget?
I'm wanting to build a new PC but I keep seeing people saying "wait for the new wave of graphics cards" but when exactly will that be?
>>341677626
>What's the best way to cool a PC? Will slapping an industrial fan next to the fucker keep it cool enough?
NO
You need to get the heat out of your case. Exhaust fans at the top and rear are usually good placements, as the front (and possibly side) fans act as intake. Computer components aren't made of delicate china, they're made to operate at high temperatures due to differences in world climate. If they get to 90 degrees Celsius, you have a problem. Obviously you want it way less than this.
Do you have any windows or anything? Opening them could help. My windows have been open all Summer so that the cooler morning/evening air comes in.
>>341678084
yes
>>341678219
Don't listen to people who say "wait for this" because there are always, always new products coming out. Only wait for products that are weeks away from release.
>>341678084
>>341677038
the perfect build for $600, swap out the ssd for mass storage or leave it as is.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wv4Vnn
CPU overclocked to 4.3 GHz (gets too hot at 4.5 for some reason, still does its job though)
Got 2 1080p monitors so I'm content with a 970 and might SLI in the future because I don't need 4k in my life atm, waste of money.
PSU is definitely overkill, I was a bit low on PC knowledge at the time, but I know the bad boy is gonna last me another 3-5 years
>>341676254
>>341676467
I had a read through the thread and realised I forgot to mention that those anons recommending SSDs are 100% right. To determine a size, you'll have to estimate what you'll use it for. I recommend only using it for your OS and any programs that launch with Windows, or any programs you deem necessary to start quicker. This will make your OS (and obviously programs) boot quicker. Putting games on there will decrease load times, but I don't recommend that. I have a 256GB SSD, and I have about 50GB left, and I strictly only put my OS (W10) and boot programs on there, which is only 9 programs.
Also consider getting an external drive. Not to use as an external drive, but because external drives and just internal drives with a fancy case and a USB port. You can often find good deals on external drives that would cost significantly more if you bought the drive alone. Just get a good one and pop it out of the case. I also recommend getting a larger drive, unless you have other drives lying around or plan to uninstall games as you finish them. 5TB drives are pretty cheap nowadays.
>>341678081
Sorta okay for 3D games but if you want to play newer MOBAs then get a better graphics card.
>>341678219
last gen cards released two years ago, next "wave" is out in literal weeks/now out. people have been saying that because the "new wave" you're speaking of is literally this month. nvidia's are out, amd's are out this month.
doing a MB and CPU upgrade later in the year when new Intel is release also going to SLI
just got my vive today as well, it's far more impressive than I expected
>>341678084
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PfZLD
>>341678819
funny
>>341678081
if you're going high-end then you must get a 144hz monitor, or at least a 1440p monitor.. the 1080 is overkill for 1080p
>>341678725
Yeah, I was going to get a 128GB SSD for the OS and that is it. Was gonna go for a 2TB HD for the games and shit. I think I have a External laying around my parents' house somewhere too.
Also have my 4k monitor coming this week
>>341679007
Your CPU is fine, though. But your RAM is surprisingly slow, 993 MHz?
>>341667013
Do check the specifications on your motherboard first. The less you pay for your motherboard and the more you pay for whatever is delivering your sound, the more likely it is you will want a sound card.
>>341679196
why not 144hz 1080p
Can you tell somehow how much power a build is taking?
I want to upgrade when the 480 comes out but I don't know if the power supply can take it sinceit's a generic chink thing that I know nothing about and apparently neither does the internet.
Could this run Doom reliably?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mbpkLD
>>341679595
Why not 300 Hz 720p?
>>341676946
https://www.amazon.com/Asus-VG248QE-24-inch-Ergonomic-Back-lit/dp/B00B2HH7G0
something like that
>>341679698
I wouldn't bet any money on it. The bare minimum for 1080p/60fps performance is this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lonxu/saved/MRNmP6 anything less than that and you're severely compromising on your performance
>>341679698
It's considerably stronger than a 386, so yes.Is the 730 supported by the game?
So, with the new shit coming out this month. And July 4 being around the corner. I should probably wait to buy my first PC right?
Anything I should do in the meantime to prepare to build my first PC?
>>341680169
make sure you have another pc to look a building guide on and a screwdriver with the pirated win7 disc ready alongside with all the driver software
>>341680169
In the forthcoming weeks you should avoid all electronics and carpets to avoid static build up.
>>341680169
You can buy everything now but the gpu. And of you buy an actual good cpu it will run many games without a graph card.
>2016
>gets a 970
JUST
>>341680650
I feel its mostly by people who arent involved in pc gaming and have no clue about upcoming gpu releases impulse buying "-10%!!" gpus
490 fucking WHEN
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qx2wPs
>>341679687
PSUs on pre-builts tend to be cheap shit
don't ever skimp on the PSU or you'll regret it
that said open it up and then check the tiny ass writing on the PSU, it will tell you the wattage
>>341681178
and by open it up I meant the case, not opening the fucking PSU, don't try that
what's your guy's opinion on sites like ibuypower and cyberpower?
>>341680942
When you lose your v card.
>>341681598
Fuck
>>341675768
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z6LBm8
>no video card?
>>341681317
Why? You build a PC yet you to fucking noob to fucking know what wont kill you? Fuck how do you start your car up without blowing up.
>>341681715
Hello?
>>341681696
Put RX 480 under custom since it's not out
>>341681178
>>341681317
I took a picture of a sticker in the PSU on one of the times I opened it up to clean, but hell if I know where it went.
So far it's worked with that build from my pic for like 5 years without frying anything.
If you had to guess, how much wattage does that build seem to draw? I've never overclocked if that helps, so it's running pretty much stock, CPU fan and all.
It's pretty much a fact I have to get a trusty PSU anyway if I wanna get a 480, but hey, curiosity is a funny thing.
>>341682060
The one thing I would change is the PSU. I prefer modular. it's probably only $20 more and saves room in the case and makes it cleaner looking
>>341682560
Bump for an answer.
>>341685150
You can check the power usage of the parts in their description. Add then up. Don't forget that the mobo has its own power usage.
>People building low-end PC's
Why even bother? Just save up for another two weeks or month or something. At least remember to get a decent PSU so you don't fuck yourself over in the future.
r8 pls :^)
>>341687143
So last gen/10
>>341685861
The descriptions of the parts from Speccy itself you mean?
>>341687289
still better than 99% of rigs in the woooooorld :^)
>>341687379
I mean the official TDPs. Your cpu and gpu has them in every description, but you can look up the mobo as well. HDDs use about 25 watts iirc.
>>341688136
Apparently the TDP for a 6670 is 66W, and for an i7 2600 it's 95W.
I couldn't be bothered to check all the other parts cause I'm on mobile now, but I have a funny feeling the rest won't add up as to assume the PSU is anything outstanding.
I'll double check later. Just to be sure though, every part has an individual power draw, right? How would I know how much the RAM uses for example?
>never tried pc gaming or cared for pc gaming
>want to give it a shot
>try watching a video on choosing the right parts
>get lost instantly because im retarded
just fuck my shit up. I have absolutely no idea if this is good or bad http://pcpartpicker.com/list/T9B6hq
>>341671876
gee billy
>>341690279
>seagate hard drive
get a hitatchi 7200 rpm or HTC, same company
to be honest that's not a bad rig at all
>>341690279
Seems a bit expensive but you didn't make any big mistakes, everything would work fine if you assembled it.
Wondering what I should upgrade next.
>>341691260
that motherboard and chip to x99
>>341690279
A few tips.
>GTX 970
The worst time to buy one. Radeon RX 480 is out in 2 weeks, will outperform it for only $200. GTX 1060 is likely to be announced in the near future to compete with the 480 and will likely be around the same price/performance. If you need Nvidia (you don't, but if you insist) the GTX 1070 is worth the extra money. Only for a partner board design though, Founder's Edition is concentrated snake oil
>no SSD
240/256gb, Samsung or Sandisk recommended
>Seagate
Oh Jesus, don't do that
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/2RPfrH/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-0f10311
>>341692456
>$200
Or you can not gimp yourself and wait for the customs which will be 1.25x better than the reference one
>>341667013
Don't bother with the 212 Evo fan since the 6400 comes with a fan and it doesn't OC anyways since its a non-K model, stock fan is good enough.
Change MSI mobo to an Asus or Gigabyte which are more reliable models and the earlier especially has a very good BIOS for checking temps and controlling the system efficiently.
Change the 970 to a 480 if your waiting a bit or if not go for the r7 360 as a temporary card as it still has 4gb for under $200.
Everything else seems fine, also if you can go for Seasonic and if your current rig is 300-350w don't bother getting a 650w gold PSU as its overkill, 500-550w at gold is enough.
