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NEW SCUTTLEBUG TECH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRVCSmZzPc
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An A-press saved is an A-press earned.
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>>341656860

How do people discover this shit?
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>>341656860
>(Unpolished)
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>>341656860
>13 hours of scuttlebug raising later
MEME MAGIC DOES IT AGAIN
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AUTISM
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>>341657986
>>341657810

Okay, TJ "Henry" Yoshi. I want to see you beat BBH Big Boo's in zero (4) A presses.
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I fucking love this guy
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>>341656860
HE'S BACK

Can't wait for the commentary version.
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>>341657986
He wrote a script for the input, and definitely didn't do that manually, right?
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>>341659131

Mods better not crackdown on the threads this time. I mean, God forbid we talk about video games here.
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I don't get it? What was the point?

I don't see what he accomplished
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>>341656860
>13 hours of seemingly arbitrary movements before doing something that looks like it didn't even require all that prep work
I-i don't understand
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>>341659232
everything he does is TAS
it looks like it isn't because it's not a speedrun, so he doesn't care about efficiency, just timing
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>>341659626

did you not see him literally levitate to the third floor?
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>>341659541
It means we, as a species, are one step closer to completing Mario 64 without pressing the A button. Part of the entry exam to join the Galactic Federation along with Time Travel and Faster than Light travel.
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>>341659626
This video will explain it and fill you in on our dank memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
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>>341659541
>>341659626
Once all the A presses have been removed, the universe will be reborn.
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>>341659793
Ohhhhhhhhhh, now I understand. I didn't get it at first because the scuttlebugs were invisible at that point.
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>>341659843
>>341659898

But he jumped a bunch of times
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>>341659541
He's doing a challenge run where he's trying to get all 120 stars without pressing the A button.

He figured out a strategy to do it for this star by moving scuttlebugs around and raising their height by getting them to lunge and despawning them halfway through, then respawning in a slightly different spot so they start the lunge over in the opposite direction. He explained this in more detail in his Rolling Rocks video, the one that made him a meme. Here he did it to a group of scuttlebugs instead of just one though, and it was a much more complex pattern requiring him to run around the house, which is why it took thirteen hours.
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Why does he have 2 separate channels?
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dump QPU memes
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>>341660064
Those were dives, not jumps. Not the A button.
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>>341660064
No he didn't, he slid and got airtime from the slide and from prematurely ending the slide, and sometimes bounced off enemies to gain extra height.
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>>341659854

My real question is what anon discovered this video and watched at 25 minutes of it the first time?
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>>341660064
But he didn't press the A button
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>>341660082
One is for normies.
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>>341660082
One is his major channel where he only posts commented videos of major breakthroughs, and the other is for little things, explanations about the physics of the game, etc.

He only posted this here on his second channel because he hasn't polished it up with his commentary yet.

>Note that although I’m posting this ABC strat here, this in no way affects the eventual release of the same strat on my main channel. The fact of the matter is that I had TASed this strat back in December 2015, and since then it’s been held up in the koek system for 6 months without any clear sign of when it will be made into a video on that channel. In other words, koek’s need for visuals, auxiliary screens, thorough glitch explanations, and commentary has caused the release of this video to be repeatedly delayed. Consequently, I decided that in the meantime, I could just post an unpolished version of the strat on this channel. If you desire visuals, auxiliary screens, thorough glitch explanations, and commentary for this strat, then simply wait until its eventual release on my main channel. But for everyone who’s willing to forsake those things in order to see the strat, now they can.
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>>341660082

The main channel is for finished commenated stuff now, second channel is for testing and things like his older vids on the main channel
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JAMBOREE CONFIRMED
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>5 new videos
Time to settle in
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>>341660359

Am I a normie?
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What compels a man to make a diagram and literally spend minutes explaining what a half A-press is?
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>muh .5 press

Still, and always bee bullshit. A press is a press.
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>>341660674
A youtube comment.
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>>341660694

t. TJ "Henry" Yoshi
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>>341660674
People wouldn't stop being "Henry"s about it even though he had an explanation in the description, so he brought it up in a video directly.

It didn't help though since people like >>341660694 continue to be "Henry"s about it.
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>>341660064

If I'm not mistaken, he might have been HOLDING the A button, which allows you to kind of jump out of your dives with the b button. You can do lots of mini jumps, but nothing higher than the jump out of a dive. This is what the whole half an a press/henry meme is all about
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>>341660674
It seems like the dude is just reaching because he's buttblasted you can't beat the game with 0
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Wait when did the scuttlebugs come into play?
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>>341660694

but he didn't press the a button while in the level. He pressed the A button outside of the level,and he completed the star while only holding the a button
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>>341660879
Who?
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>>341659363
Sup. I see you didn't commit suicide yet despite many people here suggested it.
At least think about it, champ.
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>>341661130
He bounced off of them in the bookcase room. I don't know why they are invisible.
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I can't hear the SM64 file select music without thinking of this channel now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhdZMpSvXg
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>>341661130
That's what boosted him when he jumped to the top floor, they were invisible
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>>341661130

he used them in the room with the books, to get up to the balcony which normally requires wall kicking. Which is why there were like 4 little squeals in a row.
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>13 hours
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>>341661193
>He pressed the A button outside of the level

How do we really know he didn't press it inside the level?
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>>341661046
>he might have been HOLDING the A button
No that's a half A press. Those dives were just hitting the B button
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>13 hours

Again....
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>OP only posted one of the videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnR4hEvtRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOYBm5e-so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB7110SoN5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRih3gfXin4

All these saved A presses
All these scuttlebugs
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>>341661286
>they were invisible

THEN HOW DOES HE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE?
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At some point he's going to have to press A.

His dreams will die soon enough.
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>>341661265
>>341661286
>>341661370

I thought they couldn't leave their native room.
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>>341660674
It's pretty pointless but so is everything if you consider entropy. Then it becomes apparent that anything done that was, at least at some point, deemed impressive or useful then that is at best better than doing nothing; which is highly likely what those who make fun of him figuring these things out do.

Just admire his autism and move on, I guess.
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>>341661448

Oh, ok. I thought you had to at least be holding the A button to jump out of the dive

>>341661401

I guess we don't know for sure, but the important part is that he didn't do any maneuvers that require the A button, so that in practice, you could replicate this, while at most holding the A button from a previous star
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>>341661523
The man has a very intimate knowledge of the game mechanics, all the way to the code level. He knows exactly how to manipulate their AI.
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>>341661570
The stage with the most A presses left is tick tock clock. There's like 6 left in that stage alone.
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>>341661490
>4 A presses saved

This is the Mario 64 equivalent of hitting home base
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>>341661271
This is literally sex.
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>>341661271
when you die you will hear this music and see a wall of yellow text explaining everything
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>>341657315
By constantly looking out for stuff to fuck with, and studying the game in great detail, plus having a good understanding of computers as a basis

What always gets me is that, as old is M64 is, and as long as we've been able to emulate it, there's still all this undiscovered shit. Makes you wonder what sort of stuff we could dig out of games that haven't had significantly improved speedrun routes in years.
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>>341661767
We might one day reduce it to four.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0GbkSrx9Ik
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>>341661271
>But that didn't stop me!
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>tfw can only do a few levels without an a press
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>>341659131
I NEED MORE!
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>>341661767
The most vile A press is the one in Bowser in the fire sea. It's the only one preventing a 0x 70 star run.
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>>341661401

Because he would've performed the jump animation. An A press has a visible tell as it actively affects the character.
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This guy must have gotten mario 64 for xmas one year and never quit playing

>>341662472
>tfw that pole was Bowser's greatest creation
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>>341661265

They where invisible because they were in a vertical PU

he raised those bugs high enough that it's collision detection(which gets converted to a short, just like mario) is treated as if it was on the real map. The visuals for the bugs are exactly 65536 units above the bookcases
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>>341662332
>Chapter 22 never

I want to know what the fuck is going on with the black-haired Hindo in the cover.
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Do you guys think this is bowers evil test? To make mario beat the game without any A presses?
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So do we know the minimum A presses required for a full 120 star run?
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I like this because if I ever feel like a loser, I just need to remember that there is some autistic dude out there spending countless hours dissecting an N64 game.
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>>341663194
He has a video showing "the remaining A presses", i.e. the ones he has yet to figure out how to save, but it's outdated and he's saved a bunch since then.

It's around 20 I think.
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>>341663201
Then you also remember that this person is much more famous, popular, liked, and has created more original content and discussion than you ever have. You have less to show for your time than someone who spends all their free time grinding down A presses for fun
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>>341663201
How many people have you made happy today?
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>>341663194
Only one is required for an any% run.
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>>341663314

That's what I was guessing. So he found a way to get 100 of the 120 stars without pressing the a button once.
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>>341663482
It's more than 100. There are a few stars that require several presses.
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>>341663410
>much more famous, popular, liked, and has created more original content and discussion

Oh, please. Like all that isn't just people being ironic/pity. And if it isn't, then they're as much fools as he is.

I stand by what I said.
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>>341663201
When I need to feel happy I just remember I'm not Anthony Burch.

>yfw you will never, ever be Anthony Burch, not even with all of /v/ shitposting as fast as possible on April Fool's

Feels good.
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>>341663169
We gotta get back to tail's and cheetoman.
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>>341663925
Fuck off, normalfag.
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>>341663925
do you have 1000 dollarydoos to throw away just to save some A presses?
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>>341663925
The way you delude yourself by putting down others to keep you up, is there a word for that?

This guy is actually impressive, albeit autistic.

You're hopefully just baiting.
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>>341664105
Has that been claimed yet?

Is there any progress/theories?
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fart
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>>341664182
Inferiority complex
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kek
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>>341664357
Is that so?
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>>341664420
Deepest lore.
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>>341664402
That's two words, but I guess it'll do.
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>>341664228
Leading theory is that it was a random bit flip caused by cosmic rays.

No, really.
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>>341664228
The current most likely hypothesis is that it was a random bit being flipped in a freak accident. It's unable to be recreated reliably.
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>>341664420
>list of clever filenames
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>a button press is called half a press because he does in a different stage
that's fucking retarded a press is a press

if he uses a buffered button RELEASE he should call it that

not half a fucking press, illiterate fucking autist
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>>341656860
HAHA MARIO IS SO WACKY AND FUNNY HAHA
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>>341664420
>file that doesn't seem important till after you delete it
the feels.
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>>341664182
"Impressive, albeit autistic" is just another way of saying impressive in a sad way.

I'm genuinely puzzled why anyone gives a single SHIT about this guy or what he's trying to "achieve".

And no, I am not baiting.

Also:
>The way you delude yourself by putting down others to keep you up

Hey, whatever works.
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>>341664683
>master baiter
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So fucking autistic, he needs help.
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>>341664695
haha
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>>341664695
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>>341664683
Read your own sentence again, if it happened in a difference stage, then it doesn't count.
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>>341664816
please go and open a fucking dictionary and see what "press" means

a fucking dualshock 2 canbe half pressed because the controller supports that

you can't half press a fucking ninty 64 controller
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>>341664683
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>all these neurotypicals in the thread

lmao stay jealous peasants
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>>341664997
>keeps it going
Impressive resolve
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>>341664997
A half press is a half press.

You are the one who should go to read a dictionary, take all the non-half-A-press believers with ye.
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>>341664963
my sentence is perfectly fine, that doesn't change the fact that the autist reinvented the definition of word press

he literally claims to press a button you have to release it afterwards or it doesn't count as a press

he's a master bullshitter and an autist if he thinks his logic is actually sound
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>>341664997
Dem scuttles, dem fucking scuttles...
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>>341665061
Oh, I'll stay jealous. I'll stay so jealous that I won't end up spending hundreds, if not thousands of hours trying to get through Mario 64 only doing quarter A-presses with my nutsack or whatever the fuck he's up to.
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>>341665234
If you press it before the stage then it means it's before the stage, ergo meaning it didn't happen during the stage, ergo meaning it's half a press because it happened before stage.
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>>341664997
I'll explain it in short

You press the button, mario jump
You hold the button, mario goes further than normal when falling
you release the button, nothing special happens

Thus, the only useful parts are pressing, and holding
he doesn't press the button in the level, he just holds it

he's using half the function of the a button

This process is colloquially shortened to "half a press"
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>>341665341
>mad that he couldn't beat Tick Tock Clock
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>>341665408
you literally don't understand what press means do you? literally

it just means you PRESS the button you press it down, you're holding the button, the state of pressing has happened, a FULL COMPLETE PRESS

what occurs next is button RELEASE, not the second half of pressing, don't be fucking retarded
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>>341656860
>13 hours of

He did that for 13 hours??
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>>341664787
I'm going to start this by saying I am not a depressed person, just realistic...

Nothing matters, everything dies, it all ends. So if something is impressive in a sad way it's still mother fucking cunt nabbit impressive.

The only time I can think where I'd agree that someone can say this dude is not impressive is if they've done something more impressive. Which 99.4% of 4chan can't fucking say and 99.99991% of /v/ can't say.

>Hey, whatever works.
I kind of liked you a bit more after that.

I think we should encourage this guy to keep this shit going because one day his passion may turn towards science and that mother fuckers sheer determination could quite literally cure some shit.

>fell for bait
probably
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>>341664997
Yeah whatever you say TJ """"""""Henry""""""""" Yoshi
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>>341664695
You better keep going.
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>>341657810
>>341657986
13 Hours poster parody when?
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>>341664997
If it can't be done on a N64 controller it doesn't count.
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>>341665425
>You press the button, mario jump
>You hold the button, mario goes further than normal when falling
here I'll stop you rigth now

what you call a button press is actually a press and button release

the problem is that the guy reinvented the dictionary definition of the word and tries to force it down poeples' throats
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>>341665569
You're retarded. If it happens BEFORE the stage then it happens BEFORE the situation, meaning it must be HALF because the stage he is holding the button down and release during the stage, meaning when he's holding the button it's during the loading/actual stage. The press happens before.
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>>341665638
Probably tool assisted, is that really so hard to work out?
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The reason it's called a half A-press is because in a full run of the game it's not actually an extra A-press in that stage, it's one held over from a previous level. Hence why, in the context of looking at the level individually, it's a "half" A-press. Obviously an actual half press on a non-pressure sensitive button isn't possible, you fucking retards.
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>>341656860
>13 HOURS OF SCUTTLEBUG RAISING LATER
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>>341665854
I don't doubt that autists would actually do such a thing for 13 hours.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APo7805Yzhk
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>>341665638
He says in the comments that he recorded the inputs and let the computer play for him for 13 hours.
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>>341665758
I'm sure the TAS community all collectively agreed to use that terminology. And even if they didn't, you're arguing semantics.
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>>341665341
>quarter A-presses
A half A-press is a half A-press, you can't say it's a quarter
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>>341666120
he never acknowledged this as terminology he claims it;s correct wording, which is a flat out lie
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>>341661089
You could still call them no jump runs at least.
But no a presses is a stretch
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>>341663194
Undertale faggotry is Undertale faggotry. You can't say it's only half-faggy.
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>guy spends thousands of hours exploiting super mario 64 bugs
>some people actually get angry and offended at this
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He has an ABC route spreadsheet up on Google Docs. Blue numbers mean A must NOT be held, so any subsequent half A presses require A to be pressed again.
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>>341666017
Well, being a mild autist myself.. We are known for doing repetitive shit. But still, 13 hours of _precisely_ the same movements. 1 single fuckup and it's all fucked. Restart. GG, no RE.

Only the most disturbingly devoted Autist would do such a thing without a tool assist. Furthermore, I'd like to know what controller he's using, as whatever I plug into my PC breaks far too quickly. I have an Afterglow with a partially fucked thumbstick.
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>>341663194
34 so far.
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>>341665758
>>341666328
You might as well complain about the definition of PU's then. The same word meaning different things in different contexts is not unheard of in the English language.
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>>341665917
And that would have been no problem if he acknowledged that his "half A press" is a made up term for a situation where the game does not recognize the button being pressed down and held, but only held because it happens after memory is flushed and the new stage begins. He made fun of the guy for trying to force his dumb logic onto people for fuck's sake.
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>>341666328
Terminology = wording. If it's the correct terminology, then it's the correct wording.
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>>341656860
>20 hours of preparation to do an, admittedly, cool looking jump up to an area that you can already reach easily enough by walljumping

This is some fucking autism. Even if you could streamline this shit so that the scuttlebugs are in position automatically, it's still slower than simply wall-jumping up there.
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>>341666746
Look the autism here is that he defends his term of being able to half press a button as logically sound language wise. He even made a stupid visualization of his fallacious logic. He only had to say "it's just a way to call this thing that happens in the game", but instead he started making flawed logic for it claiming it's right.
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>>341666769
>Dumb logic

There is no logic involved here. For the purposes of SM64 TAS runs, a button press is considered pushing and releasing the button, and a half-button press is pushing and not releasing the button.
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>>341667069
But walljumping takes A presses

the whole point is to NOT press A.

It's a challenge run. it's silly to say "wow he could have just done the whole thing easier by not doing the challenge"
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>>341667069
This isn't a speedrun, dipshit.
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>>341661523
He TASes, not to save time, but because he needs precision, access, information, special camera handling, etc. (Why do you think the S stands for superplay now?) The resulting file is basically a piano roll for a player-piano N64 emulator/controller.
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>>341667069
>jumping in a Mario game
Fuck off casual.
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>>341667181
That's fine. However, when somebody says "you can't half press a button in this game", you should respond "that's right, but we use this term to describe what actually happens". Instead he made it into an argument.
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>>341667069
You should see his video where he tries to explain how pressing a button halfway doesn't count as a button press

Because fuck logic, right? Pressing down a button isn't pressing down a button until you also release the button.
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I can get all 120 stars without pressing the "A" button once. Ever. Not even a half "A" press. I don't actually even need the button at all.

>Pic related, it's my controller.
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>>341666431

Sure thing TJ """"toby"""" Fox.
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>>341667525
An A button's an A button. You can't say it's only a button.
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>>341667459
>You should see his video where he tries to explain how pressing a button halfway doesn't count as a button press
Which video would that be?
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>>341667107
I think he's working under the assumption that people are smart enough to understand that the words have different meanings when used in this particular context.
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>>341667459
Exactly what I'm trying to say. He's so autistic he confuses the actual things done in real life with TAS terminology.
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>>341667459
>Pressing down a button isn't pressing down a button until you also release the button
But that's true.
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>>341661490 All these saved A presses
Yeah. All of them. A year ago Big Boo's Haunt required like 2 A presses per star (source: Google spreadsheet as of a couple weeks ago). This is amazing.
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>>341667181
Pressing a button is pressing a button

Releasing it changes nothing about the action: pressing

If you press a button halfway, you pressed a button.
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>>341667459
This was already fucking explained "Henry".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTa4POsAmJc
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>>341667436
>>341667459
>>341667668
See:
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>>341667639
If he were smart enough, he would have known how to explain it. What the player does is different to what made up term you apply to what the game registers. He should be able to tell the difference between the two.
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>>341667684
Did you press a button? Yes? Then you pressed a button. Releasing it has nothing to do with the action of pressing it.
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>>341667859
He literally did explain it in a perfectly clear way that was understood by multiple posters ITT who have tried several times to explain it to you

At this point it isn't his fault, it's yours
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>>341667883
You fucking autismo retard.
If you press, you gotta hold, then you gotta release.
If you do one, you get three actions.
Jesus it's like explaining the trinity.
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>>341667596
There is no "A" button you dumb cunt.

I use that fucking blue button a lot though.
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>>341667810
Wrong. He's operating under the context that he can change the definition of the word "press". He's not trying to explain a game term, he's trying to justify it by incorrectly defining an existing term.
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>>341666432
People actually send Ashens death threats and all that guy does it review shitty knock-offs and snacks.
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>>341668014
Pressing a button and releasing a button are two different actions. It's not hard to understand, even for autists with anger problems.
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>>341667972
No. He explained what his made up terminology encompasses, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot half press a button on an N64 controller. A fact that he should have acknowledged when responding to the person who questioned his claim in the first place.
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>>341660265
I don't know, but that very first thread, from a time before pannenkeokposting became 2016's dankest meme and just generally became super overdone on /v/, was like a revelation of Eldritch Truth-tier autism.
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>>341667883
If you press the button without releasing it, you can get two button presses out of one button press if you plan properly. First, you use the button to jump. Then, you can use the hold for something else.

If your run requires half A presses, you will never be able to finish it in less than 1 A press.
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>>341668021
AN A BUTTON
IS AN A BUTTON
YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S ONLY A BLUE BUTTON
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>henryfags still hatin on the QPU lord
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>press A and hold it to get the first star
>hold the A button down while getting the remaining 119 stars
>even though you only press A once, /v/ autists will claim you pressed the A button 120 times
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>>341668029
>Press A button to jump in one level
>never let go of it
>use the held state to do kicks/fall slower throughout several stars


It's pressed once, but held for a long fucking time.
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>>341660674
ONE A PRESS
NOT 0.5 A PRESSES
Inb4 memes
The guy is bullshitting and it shows in his own graph
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>>341668135
>Pressing a button and releasing a button are two different actions
No it isn't. It's both the same action. You press a key, then you let go, that's one press. It's both in tangent. If you don't you geeeeeeet you hoooooooooooold the key
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>>341668014
Wrong. In reality, you must press hold release. But in TAS, you can press but not hold or release. Its the advanyGe of being tech ans not human.
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>>341667789
wtf is this cancer
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>>341668225
Now I like you.
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>>341668197
Did you press down a button? Yes? Then you pressed a button. Whether or not you release it doesn't affect that you pressed it to get to that point.
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>>341668335
Forgot pic
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>>341668352
>You press a key, then you let go, that's one press.
A press only involves pressing down the button, holding it or releasing it is separate from that completed action.
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>>341668380
>But in TAS, you can press but not hold or release.
Then it happened before the stage ergo it would be half.
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>>341667789
I can't decide if this is cringey or adorable.
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>>341668294
>>341668352

Right, but he's arguing that it's "half a button press"
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>>341661401
Because we can look at the input file and play it back on our own computers.
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>>341668635
No he isn't
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>>341668479
Okay, you 'press' A.

Now press A again.

Oh you can't, because you haven't finished the first press yet.
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>>341667459
Actually no, he does count it as a button press, you're misunderstanding it. It's just that for the purpose of one level, it doesn't count as pressing the A button again, but in the full run it does count as an A press.
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>>341668479
>>341668335

An A press involves three actions. Simply pressing the button down directly is 1/3rd of it.
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>>341668479
Oh, if that's your metric
Then he did the stage in 0 a presses.

he never pressed the button during the stage, so it's 0.
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>>341668652
looks like pennywise the clown
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>>341668352
Press and release thoses are two different words for 2 different thingas that nore ofteb than not done inw after another.
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>>341666686
>>341663314
It's 31 atm.
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>>341668754
See the part where it says "press"? That's one action.
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>>341668546
>A press only involves pressing down the button
Which happens before the stage. Holding it or releasing it are both involved in the pressing action. It's a complete action.
>>341668839
You mean a beginning, middle and end?
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>People still don't understand the concept of the half press even when he explains it at grade-school level in the video
Pro tip: It doesn't actually have anything to do with how the button is pressed or what he's using it for.

All it is meant to do is signify that the actual amount of A presses required to get that star varies depending on whether it's a full game run or just a run of that star. If he says something requires a "half A press" it means that it consumes 1 A press if just doing a run of that star, and 0 additional A presses if doing a run of the full game (because it can leech of an earlier A press).

They call pannekoek autistic but you guys are the ones that can't understand something that's spelled out for you.
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>>341668854
And in an any percent run he can beat the game with just one A press
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>>341666478
There's no way that it could even be done non-TAS, it's pixel and frame precise. He definitely just wrote a script to generate the proper inputs for 13 hours, it isn't too uncommon for TASing.
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>>341669012
FUCK OFF
AN A PRESS IS AN A PRESS
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>>341668635
"Half an A press" isn't literal.

You have to press A once to do it in a single-star, isolated playthrough of the level, but can piggyback off a previous A press in a full run of the game, meaning it doesn't add any presses in that state. It's 1x A presses in one context and 0x A presses in another, so he calls it 0.5x A presses as a shorthand for that. It also happens to work because you're only using half of the two states of A pressing that are useful for Mario's actions (since releasing has no use), giving it a double meaning.
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>>341668930

Yes, but it's not an "A press" which involves three actions. Activation, continuation, and release. As long as he continues pressing the button and not releasing it, he's still in the process of the A button. Theoretically, if he could beat the whole game without ever lifting his finger off of it, it would be a half A press run.
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>>341669012
>you're autistic because you can't understand incorrect autistic logic
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>>341668939
>Holding it or releasing it are both involved in the pressing action. It's a complete action.
Imagine a cardboard box. You put your palm on it and press down. Before you've released the pressure, the box has already crumbled underneath your palm. The pressing is completed before you release. You cannot undo this action before the event of releasing the pressure.
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>>341669254
There's no half. He pressed the button in one action. Releasing the button has nothing to do with the action of pressing.
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>>341669390
You idiot, that isn't applicable to a button on the control/keyboard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOYBm5e-so

HE KEEPS DOING IT
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>>341669231
He argues that it's literal in the video.
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>>341669254
If he can eliminate all the "press" A presses, only having half A presses left, the run would still take 1 full A press, because to enter the state of half an A press you need to press A.
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>>341669438
They dont count the full press since he presses down A before entering the game, and never jumps
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>>341669604
nope
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>>341669609
>>341669438

>Releasing the button has nothing to do with the action of pressing.
Oh really? Then try jumping again while you still have your finger on the A button.
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>>341669514
That doesn't change the fact that pressing a separate action from releasing.
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it's funny how people get riled up over 12 hours of speed building

That's actually a MASSIVE improvement

he used to have to do it for 25 hours, but I don't recall the video. Same level, but outdated strat.
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>>341669514
Imagine taking your finger, and pressing down a key so that "aaaaa" appears.

I only hit A once, yet 5 a's appeared because i held it down
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>>341669514
The definition of the word "press" is applicable everywhere, fuck off.

Actions are actions, regardless of the autistic mental gymnastics you try to pull off.
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>>341668754
Then why call the first action a press?
The fist action is called "pressed"
"Pressed" implies that it already occurred
It occurred on the button A
Therefore it is an "A press"
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EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP

DOES HE "PRESS A"? I DONT CARE ABOUT HALF-PRESSES OR WHATEVER, DOES HE PHYSICALLY PRESS THE A BUTTON?
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>>341669685
He goes on a lengthy argument and uses logic that doesn't apply in real life for the sake of his made up terminology when the claim that you can't half press a button is inherently ambiguous and shouldn't be explained as such.
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>>341669892
The idea is to hold it down for the entire game.
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>>341669672
>he presses down A
There you go. He pressed down A. End of story.

>>341669743
Doesn't change the fact that pressing and releasing are two different actions.
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>>341669884

It's a misnomer.
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>>341669892
He does not press the A button. This star does not requiring pressing it, or holding it. The star can be done without ever touching the A button.
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>>341669972
no
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>>341656860
>13 hours of scattlebug raising
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>>341670052
But he pressed it down before starting the game
If he presses the A button at all throughout his life does that also ruin all chances of a 0 a press run
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>>341669892
He presses A, albeit in a different occasion. When he did that, he held it down for several stars. Doing this lets you fall slower and do kicks from a standing position, as well as swim faster by kicking instead of that shitty grab Mario tries underwater
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>>341670117
>can't combat logic
>only response is no

You must not lose arguments very often

>>341670186
He pressed A? Cool story bro. He pressed A.
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>>341669849
Yes. It's all about time, you hold down in the brief moment it only means you get the one character.
To do, to have it happen, and to release are all equal and consider a big action that is separate but equal and considered to be three whole things that combine to become one big thing.
Holy shit this is best metaphor for the trinity sans using the press shit because that's modalism.
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>>341670117
let me explore my autism for fuck's sake
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>>341670052
>There you go. He pressed down A. End of story.
before he started the mission
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>>341670186
>If he presses the A button at all throughout his life does that also ruin all chances of a 0 a press run

Oh fuck I am laffin
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>>341670250
So he pressed A then? We are in agreement.
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>>341670250
>mission
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>>341670186
If he presses it before starting the game it's still an a press. The game can't be completed in only half an a press, it's either one or zero.
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>>341664420
Congratulations Scott Buchanan aka pannenkoek2012, a WinRAR is you.
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>>341670336
>So he pressed A then?
Before the level. Ergo meaning that it carries over and he technically doesn't have to "press" the button.
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all yall niggas dont seem to remember the concept of half a presses. yall are either saying it's an a press or it's not ... 0.5x a presses exist!!! sm.h
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>People STILL think it's called a half A press because he's only using the hold function of a "complete" A press.
How has this meme persisted for so long. It's just straight up misinformation and anyone trying to argue it is dangerously retarded.

Regardless of which part of an A press's functionality you are using, or whether you start pressing it outside the level or whatever, it's still 1 press. The only thing the "half press" is meant to signify is that it counts as 1 press in some contexts and 0 in others, like this guy says: >>341669231

How the fuck people still get this confused when it is explained so thoroughly in the video just speaks to the alarmingly low IQs of the people on this board.
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>>341670354
They should really just re-label it a "no jump run"
It sounds better that way too
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>>341670225
No, he does not. If he held down the A button, the video would be labeled "half an A press". He does not touch A to get this star, there are no half a presses involved.
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If you jump but never land, you don't call it a jump do you.

The land is part of the jump.
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