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REGGIE BLOOMBERG INTERVIEW - NX IS NOT ABOUT SPEC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhl5sk9i6Mk&feature=youtu.be

>Lets them fight in red ocean
>We dont care about teraflop

Another Wii console in the making ...
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>It's not about the specs or power
I'm sorry but it is Reggie. Don't start talking about content when you only bring 2 games to E3 and then starve Wii U users until next March.
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Nintendo a shit
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Who else is quitting Nintendo after Zelda?
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>we're not competing again
3 times and it only worked once
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Is the Wii U going to get a price drop any time soon? I want to pick one up and crack it but I don't want to spend $300 or get one used.
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>>341627296
I hope Nintendo doesn't let this slide and give Reggie a good consult about how marketing works. If not then fire him for doing a poorly done job and to tell him to take his shit memes with him.

Very disappointing, really.
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>>341627296
So after that Ubisoft report and this thing

Its 99% confirmed that we will have ourselves a new Wii

Whats its name /v/ ?
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We will he realize multiplats are nearly just as important as exclusives? What's the point of creating a console only your company knows how to use?
The modern gamer just wants 1 machine to do all their gaming on, they don't want to buy NX + PC or NX + PS4, they just want 1 device.
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> tfw Nintendo will bankrupt in your lifetime
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>>341627296

what is the actual reason for nintendo hardware always being a gen behind power wise nowadays?
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>>341627296
>NX IS NOT ABOUT SPEC
>We dont care about teraflop
They better fucking should care about it if they wan't to attract third party devoloper and with that actually selling their disgusting consoles
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>>341628756
Wii U 2

screencap this because Nintendo is this fucking retarded
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>>341628950
muh shekels
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>>341628541

Why not quite now. There is literally no reason to keep supporting such an out of touch company

They either need new management or get out of consoles all together and become 3rd party for others

Nintendo has a better chance at surviving in the film industry than gaming
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>NX is just an overclocked Wii U with a redesigned gamepad
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>>341628950
Trying to not sell their console at a loss like everyone else because they know they're not gonna make that money back on software sales
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THEY LEARNED FUCKING NOTHING

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM
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>>341628794
they don't want nintendo consoles in general so why invest in them
seriously Nintendo could cure aids and wake you up with blowjobs in the morning and people would still call it kiddy shit
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>>341627296
lmao she's in silicon valley s03e08
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>>341627296
>it's about trying to trick normies into buying our overpriced, underpowered shit based on some hardware gimmick nobody wanted or uses.
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>>341628756
WII 2 U
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So it's not about specs, and it's clearly not about games since only one was shown for E3.
What is it about then?
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>>341628541
Zelda BotW is the Last Nintendo product I'm ever buying. I was actually on the fence or not about the game till this E3.
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TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE WII'S GIMMICK CRAZE AMOUNT OF SALES: VERSION 2

HEY YOU DUMB FUCKS NO ONE ENJOYED THE WII U IT WAS BORING AS FUCK JUST MAKE A NORMAL CONSOLE
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>>341629040
>Underpowered piece of trash that costs $5 to make but they sell it at $399.
>Retards still buy it

Easy money
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>>341627296
Nintendrones literally committing suicide right now.
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>>341629345
Nintendo are saving all their games for the NX launch.

I will buy the NX at launch, the Wii U has had amazing games. Consistently polished and focused on gameplay, not cinematic snoozefests.
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>>341628756
WiiUMee
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You can kiss strong 3rd party support goodbye. With ports of popular Wii U titles in the works, there won't be BC.

Now it makes sense why they didn't want to show it off at E3
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>>341628950
They got completely blown the fuck out back whenever they made stronger consoles than Playstation, then they got incredibly lucky with the Wii so now they're stubborn as fuck in thinking people want gimmicks instead of more powerful hardware. They can't understand they need third party support if they want to compete but if you don't have the hardware to run the latest CoD and shit you're immediately out of the race.
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>>341629109
PS4 isn't being sold at a loss tho and its 5x more powerful than the wii u while costing like $50 more
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>>341628756
New Wii U Wee Wario
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>>341628541
I've bought every Nintendo console since the N64, I'm picking up BotW for the Wii U and calling it quits
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>>341629539
You haven't even seen the NX or the new games yet, seems a bit early to state that.
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For you Nintoddlers who defend this shit, better specs allow more room to work with for developers in terms of features, not just graphics. If specs didn't matter, the N64 would still be getting games. NX is just Nintendo being cheapskates who suck money out of the manchildren audience.
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>>341629283
Wii LIE 2U
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>>341628756
>From Wii 2U

Calling it now
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>>341627296
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>>341628541
Pretty much done with them now aside from 3ds piracy
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>>341628950
They want the younger audience, which usually has parents buying them budget toys. They got lucky with the Wii gimmick, as a lot of idiots fell for the motion control bullshit which later turned out to just be waggling and people wised up to their shit. Now they're trying to cash back into that market and times have changed.
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I notice that QoL stuff they made a huge song and dance about was never, ever brought up again.
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So it won't be 6 teraflops and just be one mega flop?
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>>341628982
these kiddies will buy the latest Mario game with no complaining.
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>>341629478
Keep telling yourself that
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>>341628950
They're not as big or technologically invested as MS and Sony, they can't risk or spend as much as them.
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>>341629770
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR NINTENDO IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CARES ABOUT GAMES
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>>341628515
>I'm sorry but it is
Hello underage, do you remember the Xbox and Gamecube?
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>>341629478
>the Wii U has had amazing games.
It has a handful of good games, and mostly forgettable junk. It's one of the many reasons why the system failed.
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>>341627296
Maybe they're referring to the 4K thing?

I seriously doubt the NX isn't on par with the original PS4.
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>nintendo makes the NX because they want a more powerful system
>this comes out today
why the fuck is nintendo always so far behind hardware wise?
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>>341629717
probably died with Iwata

I'm not joking, the new CEO probably dropped it to focus on his own strategy. Its a alpha - beta leadership thing
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>>341628574
They could make a ps4 clone and it would still barely sell, and no one would buy COD on it over the others. Nintendo has a reputation for being kiddy shit that they will never escape
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>>341629629
fuk no, of course better specs gives room to better graphic features, but thats about it, with talented programers and designers they can make a game a 10000 times better than any thing out now, you dont need state of the art graphics to make a game good, it only makes tame pretty and more expensive to make, thats all.
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>>341629770
Kek
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>>341629801
the Wii literally obliterate ps3 and xbox360.

They had their chance, and followed up with another gimmick console, and they are doing it again.

This is fucking embarrassing.
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>>341627296

That ocean is red with Nintendo's blood. If they release a fucking Wii U 2 which is barely as powerful as the vanilla PS4 and X1, it's game over. 3rd party devs will fuck off yet again and all you'll be looking forward to is delayed first party releases every now and then.
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Nintendo is a mess.
Nintendo is a waste.
Nintendo is a big fat mistake.
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>>341629478
both the wii and the wiiU have no game thats better than 6/10
i just read through the whole wiiu library again and there is not a single game i would want to play.
same with the wii. i flashed it and thereby own the whole library but every single game is shit, even the first party ones.

all nintendo has are childish platformers without online support. sad
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>>341629770
No, its gonna be flop
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>>341629770
>Laughing cause that's fucking hilarious
>But fucking disappointed that it's fucking true.
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>>341629849
If Nintendo cared about games they'll become a handheld and 3rd party software company and do what they do best. Nintendo has such good games but you have to purchase a useless piece of shit to play them which isn't worth it.
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>>341629629
better specs also drive up developement costs and are the reason everything is a linear third person shooter now, because developing anything else is expensive as shit and takes too much fucking time
the console race is inflating budgets like crazy, everybody trying to outdo eachother will just end up in everybody killing themselves
we had good graphics during ps360, just take that and use the additional power on perfomance
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Well, given that it's easier for low budget games to be developed for weaker hardware because they don't have to put so much attention to detail graphically, can the NX become the weeb console sort of like the Vita is?
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>>341627296
>it's not about specs, it's about locking exclusives to antiquated hardware
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NX threads will never stop being shitholes.
>NXfags unironically trusted Emily "Zelda will have a female Link" Rogers
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>Nintendo has had 3 years into this gen to make something that can match xbox one and PS4
>Still comes up with under powered mario machine
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>>341629986
Yet still they will sell that ancient hardware for $400
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>>341627296
Not surprising at all. They have to sell the consoles with a profit so they are forced to make the specs garbage. Another blunder generation for Nintendo probably their last to be honest.
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>>341630094
>This entire post
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>>341629986
>forcing devs to waste time optimizing around weak hardware is a good thing
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>>341628950
Because the graphics arms race is what literally killed video games thanks to it's ability to hilariously inflate development costs for no extra profit, resulting in the death of nearly every formerly great video game studio, and is why video games today suck balls, because every company has to play it safe in most regards so that they can turn a profit and not go bankrupt.

Nintendo tries to keep costs down by making hardware they can turn a profit off of so they can stay in business and not die out like basically everyone else has.

Of course, people will continue to cry "U-underpowered!", like you'd expect the massively moronic video game consumers would, and then eat up the actual remakes, remasters, rehashes, and samey games that come out on other platforms, which are also hilariously underpowered, because people that play and pay for video games frankly has no standards and will just follow the biggest marketing budget.

If it's not already painfully clear that basically every game ever made from here out will be on PC, then you should aquatint yourself with that knowledge and then pick the 1 console with the most/best exclusive games you want to play, as that's really all that matters in console land and ever will, as consoles are now mainly just PCs for babbies with I guess the exception of Nintendo's things.

>>341629629
No, in reality it allows devs to be as lazy as humanly possible because they can throw optimization out the window even harder than they already do
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>>341630208

>we make gamers smile

yeah I smiled when I saw the textures in zelda
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Another gen in last place for Nintendo then.
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>>341628541
Not even gonna get zelda unless the dump rumors are true
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>>341630184
Only if it has a feature that lets you rub animu girls
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>>341628756
>ubisoft report
Explain
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>>341629849
They haven't given a single fuck about anything but Mario, Zelda and Amiibos for years.
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>>341627296
>We don't want to lose $5 billion despite selling 80 million consoles

And what, exactly, is wrong with this?

Hardware won't magically change demographics and spur millions and millions of people to suddenly buy AAA garbage on Nintendos platform.

Anyone who thinks selling an expensive console at a loss is a good idea for Nintendo is simply beyond fucking stupid. Western publishers want a certain demographic and better hardware will not make that market abandon Sony and MS overnight.

Sony and MS themselves aren't even doing it anymore because they lost billions on 360 and PS3, Xbone and PS4 are weak machines cause they both knew they couldn't pull off the "loss leader" model, it failed miserably for both of them. No one is ever going to make a powerful console again, it is simply not viable anymore.
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>>341630327
So the controller will be like the Steam controller with more haptic feedback and pseudo nipples in the middle of the touchpads.
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>>341628541
I've been done with Nintendo since the wii. It's pretty obvious that the nx or whatever the fuck they call it will fail and either Nintendo will be done or they will undergo a major overhaul. Even Nintendo's hardcore fans are jumping ship, what with the metroid and paper Mario business. Any way you look at it Nintendo's future doesn't look good
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>>341630390
>70+ new IPs since the GC
>T-t-they only care about Mario and Zelda!
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>>341629928

Nah. The complete lack of multiplats was the only thing keeping me from biting the bullet and getting a Wii U, and it looks like the same thing's going to happen to the NX. I'm not sure how big of a demographic I represent, but the demand certainly isn't non-existent.
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>>341630294
They cry underpowered while playing at a silky smooth 24 frames per second.
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>>341629856
flops with terrible exclusives?
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>When pic reality becomes reality

Holy shit, i thought it was just a joke, but pic related will actually come true, that's just so sad.
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IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
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I just want a console/handheld hybrid.

I could really not care less about the specs as long as I can play all the Nintendo games on 1 thing.
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>>341629770
I'm not going to drop until it has my 6 teraflops. :o
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>>341627296

Well fucking DUH Sony and MS just announced new consoles, one of which is 4x the power of the PS4. NX was started development in 2013, probably aiming for PS4 level tech.

What they're saying is they're not going to go back to R&D to show up the 6 teraflops Scorpio - a console which will be niche as fuck and underutilized. They're going to stick with the tech they've developed over the last 3 years.

I think Reggie is basically saying "We're not aiming for anything Gen 9, we're aiming for Gen 8 level"
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>>341630541
I legitimately cannot tell if you have down syndrome or not.
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>>341630405
>No one is ever going to make a powerful console again
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>>341630405
xbone and ps4 were loss leaders, well at least the ps4 was but not since early 2014. The xbone is likely to still be sold at a loss because MS had to drop the price so much and bundle it with like 3 games in many cases
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>>341629539
I've pretty much regretted my Wii U purchase since day one, no zelda, no metroid, no true 3D mario, no third party support, and Nintendo seems unlikely to admit their mistakes and change their company's direction
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>>341630556
>Using a stream compressed stretched screenshot
lol
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>>341630270
im not baiting, why does everyone say im baiting when i state my opinion? name me 5 good games on the wii and the wiiu?


the best wii games were tenchu, muramasa and madworld and all of them were 6/10s and could have run on a gamecube ( i have not played xenoblade i admit )

nintendo seriously made 2 dogshit consoles with insulting hardware in a row and because i bought them i could neither play games like demons souls, red dead redemption or bloodbourne or any RPG and had to play shitty remakes and waggling games with cute characters and no online support
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FUCKING SHIT HELL; I DIDNT BUY THE WII U; I DIDN'T BUY THE §DS AND I DIDN'T BUY THE N§DS BUT FUCK;

if the NX Version of Zelda doesn't look three thousend two times better, I will probably buy the console, because the gameplay looks fun, but FUCKING SHIT still disappointed tho
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>>341630405
Ohhhhhh the shilling

nintendon't defense forces riding in!
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>>341628794
Multiplats aren't going to help them.

Multiplats at this point might as well just count as Sony exclusives. It's where 50-80% of their sales go.
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>>341630684
Why is hardware power important when all the games on it are shit
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>>341630720
meant for
>>341629614
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>>341630529
>GC
How many new IP's, exclusive to Nintendo, there has been since Wii that ain't total shit?
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I guess after the gamecube, nintendo just said fuck it even though the cube's only problem was its minidvd-rom drive. Sony and microsoft are playing ketchup with their console hardware as well, but to a lesser extent these days.

I'm done with nintendo, fucking done. Between the half assed localizations, region lock, antiquated hardware/online play, butchering of franchises, etc. I'm fed up. The wii u and 3ds are going to be my last nintendo purchases, and good fucking riddance.

Unless they really shape up with the nx, they can kiss my ass.
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>>341630608

They just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down.
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>>341628950
>Gen behind

Nigga they're not wanting to release a $700 brick like the Scorpio, they'll be on par with the PS4 - easy
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>>341630727
>lol

go back to /r/
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>>341630720
But the Wii U has the best game of the gen
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>>341630294
Hardware doesn't force anyone to do anything, if the devs bloat their budgets like kojima productions did it's their own fault. Devs like vanillaware do just fine. What about the countless indie games on PC?

>hurr pc has infinite power

yet nobody is forcing anyone to use all that
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>>341630368

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/15/ubisoft-says-nintendo-nx-will-recapture-wii-players-nintendo-addressing-family-market/
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>>341630556
>mfw Nintendo kiddies actually thought the top pic was running on the Wii U
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>>341630094
That's going a bit too far, but I kind of agree that if you're an adult male, the Wii doesn't offer much. I can play Xenoblade, Muramasa and FE Radiant Dawn on it, and that's about all the Wii games worth anyone's time. There's also MH3 but there's no point playing that over the other MH3 editions like MH3P on the PS3, PSP and emulatable on mid or low tier PCs. Even Muramasa is out if you have a Vita but I left it in because few people have one.

Sure, if you're a kid you can go for all the party games, Mario, Zelda, Pikmin whatever. But you most likely won't care about those if you're a bit older.
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>>341629770
SAVAGE
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>Reggie admitting NX is low powered while refusing to say it's a home console
>/v/ is too stupid to realize NX is a portable device
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>>341630541
GC was profitable, XB was a financial flop.

Hardware doesn't mean sales. Wii dominated while PS3 floundered, PS2 crushed while GC/XB sold like garbage. Every handheld that went up against Nintendos decade-old hardware was slaughtered.
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>>341630738
>name me 5 good games

Why would I do that when you're going to be a nigger and call them shit anyway? I can literally do the same thing for any shitty game you'll name. So what would be the point of that? Son, are you a retard?
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>>341630738
The best games on the Wii were the ones you played with friends.

You DO have friends, don't you anon?
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>>341630883
NX isn't even stronger than the xbone.
It might not even be half it's power
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>>341629770
BTFO
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>>341631018
NX is a platform son, a console and a handheld.
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>>341630952
The market forces you do it because people just want a shinier toy, even if it's worse in functionality than the ones that came prior.

If a major studio came out with a game that's fun to play, but looks dated, people will just shit on it and it will flop, bankrupting the studio.
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>>341628756
Wii2 ("wee two")
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>>341629770
HOLY SHIT NINTENDO BABYS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>341630283
thats why all the games everybody loves are remembered to thisd ay thanks to the graphics right?, oh wait.
its the fault of you fucking graphics whores that now a days all we get are fucking games with pretty graphics and no fucking substance
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>>341631201
>The market forces you do it because people just want a shinier toy, even if it's worse in functionality than the ones that came prior.

"no"

One of the most successful games ever have been indieshit like undertale and hotline miami.
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>>341628541
If anything, now would be a good time to invest in Nintendo since clearly the non-handholding game being the most popular game of E3 will show them that they don't need to cater to sheltered people.

All they need to do is make compelling experiences that get people interested in playing their games.
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>>341631018

There's no way an underpowered handheld can run Zelda BoW
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>>341627296
Is Nintendo fucking retarded? It's not about the specs, it's about the content? But 3rd party developers won't put content on your system if the specs are shit. It's too much work to port them if they have to downgrade the shit out of their game for it to work on the NX when porting from PS4 or Xbox1 versions.

It's too late, though. They can make a super powerful system if they want, but anyone who gives a shit has already gotten a PS4 or Xbox. No one will buy an NX no matter what. They've pissed off Nintendo fans with the Wii-U and are too late to attract anyone else. They done fucked up. RIP.
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>>341629770
Well memed
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>>341627296
>It's not about specs!
It is when your console struggles to run your own games and it can't run most current gen titles
>Xenoblade looks like crap
>Zelda will has and will still have framerate issues even at launch
>Pokken is a fuzzy mess and it's a goddamned fighting game
>StarFox supposedly had issues with graphics and framerate when it came to the gamepad
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>>341630965
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>horse p-power
What was it that he really wanted to say but couldn't?
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FUCKING KEKE
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>>341630684
>There's no reason we can't sell 1 billion Xbones!
Come back when we see actual specs.

If MS is in fact going to sell this new Xbone at a loss (and they'd have to if it's anywhere near that powerful) then they're going to lose money, again. That's my point, loss-leading with hardware doesn't work anymore. Nintendo is not MS, they can't afford to lose $3 billion on their console.
>>341630690
They are both sold at a gain, nothing close to what they tried with PS3/360 that were sold at a loss for years. That's why they're so weak, they knew they could not pull another PS3/360 and lose a collective $8 billion. PS4 may have sold at a tiny loss at launch but Sony themselves said they made money on each unit sold not long after, similar to the Wii U.
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>>341631304
Those games aren't making enough money to support a major development team.

They're successful because a handful of guys made the games in their basement, but if they were a fully formed studio with a mid-large staff level they would be out of business day 1.
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>>341630727

>compression deletes vegetation, removes lighting, lowers polygon count

Also the uncompressed shots are in and, surprise surprise, it still looks like shit because compression only affects resolution you idiot


Fuck off with your autistic inability to see differences.
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>>341629770
HOLY SHIT
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>>341631021
and PS4 simply obliterate everyone, destroying thr xbone and wii so hard that they forced them to make 8th gen consoles.

Based sony.
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>>341631362
3rd party games are all on PC though, so who cares
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>>341630762
>Sonyponies still ass-blasted Nintendo won E3 with ONE GAME
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>>341631362
I hope NX users are ready to play 2 games every 3 years then because no third party support again.
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>>341629770
REKT
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>>341630965

>family market

Literally doesn't exist anymore

Goddamn nintendo are so inept and out of touch it almost seems deliberate
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>>341630840
>that ain't total shit
I'm not going to bother listing games because you already made it clear you're just going to call them shit.
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>>341628515
>I'm sorry but it is Reggie.
Are you going to be surprised when Scorpio is the most powerful console but doesn't sell the best?
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>>341631362

It's not about horsepower. Early on every multiplat was on the Wii U including hilarious ports of COD/Medal of Honor. The problem is that it became clear that people only bought the really casual Wii games.

To this day the Wii still remains one of the most profitable platforms for Just Dance.
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>>341630168
>but you have to purchase a useless piece of shit to play them which isn't worth it.
you have to do that when they are 3rd party too
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>>341631602
And all they literally did is not fuck up the launch, they didn't even have a decent exclusive until a year later.
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>>341628541
Only because I already own a Wii U. Definitely not buying whatever the NX is, fucking waste. Might as well enjoy their last decent game, they're definitely going bankrupt in the next 2 years when that shit fails.
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>>341629928
Free online and the same multiplats would be a system seller for most.

It wouldn't beat the PS4 but it could be competing with the Xbox atleast in sales.
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>>341631602
>Based

I will never understand the sony shills that now claim paying to play online is a good thing. Then again, these are the same humans that pay for things twice, so I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>341631536
>PS4 may have sold at a tiny loss at launch but Sony themselves said they made money on each unit sold not long after
PS4 was profitable with the purchase of one game or an extra controller at launch, and turned a profit on the base system all by itself within a couple months.
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>>341631047
yes but we looked throught he library and found nothing except platformers, party games and light gun shooters.

i cant think of a single game that had local multiplayer. i remember having fun for some days with the goldeneye multiplayer, which is decent game ( forgot to name it in my previous post ) even though its a reskinned CoD it worked on the wii cause the wii had 0 good FPS games. the game although was so barebone you couldnt even votemap or add people as friends.

i really though skyward sword could save the console but that game was insulting
>>341631029
no im seriously interested. i have 0 interest in w101, bayo2, splatoon or any remakes though
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>>341630283
>wanting day one patches
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>>341631029

Not that anon but honestly I can't think of 5 aaa single player games on the wii and wii u combined which is all I want from nintendo IPs
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I know this is a thread for shitting on Nintendo and I don't entirely agree with Reggie but I can see the point.
If you're making consoles the whole effort to prove you have the biggest hardware is moot when compared with what a well built PC can do. Granted it allows normies and the less tech inclined to play games but when talking real specs and not just box buzzwords it makes more sense to build a PC that would be good for 2-3 console generations over buying those consoles or being an idort. The only thing consoles have going for them are exclusives, which falls under that whole competition thing.

When you have to compete with another company you have to compete against their hardware, release times, exclusives, pr, etc. This led to some sour spots, things timed exclusives and a lot of games that where reworked to compete with other exclusives or AAA standards.

If Nintendo does their own thing they can do whatever the fuck they want. They can only blame themselves if shit goes bad, but they also have a strong brand name and exclusives (outside of piracy).

Sony and Microsoft have taken the old role of Nintendo and SEGA while Nintendo is some nebulous third thing. They aren't doing bad as we know they're planning on some doing some stuff with Universal and since their production costs are low they don't lose tons on dead stock.
If you want to abandon Nintendo I fucking understand, I do. Sony and Microsoft have good offerings that aren't just walking sims and it's also good to have competition. I gotta say this e3 wasn't too bad.
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>>341631663
Not him, but isn't this a reddit meme?

Don't tell me people actually thin nintendo won anything. Every single pol is Sony>Micro>nintendo, except for the 4chan pol witch is sony>nintendo>micro
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>>341631817
No one bought those games on Wii-U because no one is going to buy the shittiest version of a game. That's why Xbox is doing worse than PS4.
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>>341631839
Not if they make their games on all systems including PC.
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>>341631602
And PS4 is horribly underpowered and can barely do 1080/30fps, it's games people care about.
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>>341631652
People who are too poor or too casual to buy high end PCs, and those who want more exclusives that aren't made for five-year-olds. You know, all the dozens of millions of people who did not buy a Wii U but bought an Xbone or a PS4.
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If the NX is about as powerful as the xbone/ps4, there's no reason they couldn't get stronger 3rd party support, even after scorpion/ps4k come out. Games that come out for scorpion will still have to be able to run on the xbone, so in theory they should be able to run on NX too. But the NX still won't get support because 3rd party devs have an irrational hatred on Nintendo.
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Good ole ractionnary garbage, gotta love it.

I especially love the ''i was always a big fan but now i'm not'' transparent shitposters
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It's really interesting that year and years of good marketing have created a "Higher Number = Higher Quality" instinct in consumers.

Graphics seems to be the only aspect that absolutely must improve in a quantifiable way that I can show on a graph, or it's instantly trash tier.
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>>341631965
>>341631931
>No seriously, I'm interested
>I honestly can't think of

You're both bullshitting that you are "seriously interested" and you know goddamn well. You shouldn't expect anyone to answer you seriously either.
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>>341631969
>If Nintendo does their own thing they can do whatever the fuck they want.
But that only worked for the Wii
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>>341629478
Why do you feel obligated to buy a console on fucking day 1? WHY??

Can anyone fucking explain this?
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>>341628756
PiiPoo
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>>341631863
>Free online and the same multiplats would be a system seller for most
No, it wouldn't. People will just keep playing on PS4 because that's where the community is. The demographics for AAA multiplats are not with Nintendo, period. Porting PS4 games won't do anything positive, people will just buy them for PS4.
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>"It's not about specs"
>The Wii U lost all third party support because the specs were way weaker and different from the competition and it wasn't worth making a separate version of every game for it
>Making this same mistake again and expecting a different outcome
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>>341631867
>Paying for online is not a good thing, and i hate it very much.

Regardless it is still the fastest selling console of all time, and the objectively obliterated it's competition out selling 2 to 1, and 4 to 1 with the wiiu

Sony played their cards right, and in it they literally forced an early next gen.
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>>341632031
>People who are too poor or too casual to buy high end PCs

Who cares about the poor?
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>>341631976
>Every single pol is Sony>Micro>nintendo
Dude stop. Sony didn't even beat Microsoft. The only people that think Sony did anything was those who want to see Kojima stick it to Konami.

Meanwhile the best games at E3 were Zelda and Forza Horizon 3.
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>>341632129

You sound butt blasted. Nintendo doesn't make aaa single player games anymore besides zelda and Mario. Shit like eternal darkness will never exist again. Most of nintendo IPs are shelved in favor of shoveling party games down out throats. What do you get out of defending that shit?
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>>341628756
New Wee Wee
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>>341632038
The hatred isn't irrational. Nintendo ask them to polish their games, and then those games have to compete with Nintendo 1st party. It's pretty obvious why 3rd party shit like Ubi and EA prefer to go with the barren, high power retarded masses of PS4/Xbox
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>>341631976
Sonyponies still mad, it seems.
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>>341632319
Anyone who wants their console to sell.
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>>341627296
>we're a content focused company
Then stop making hardware, and solely focus on content.
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>>341632345
>Sony didn't even beat Microsoft

lmfao

console turds are so dumb
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>>341627296

Does Nintendo realize every time they say this shit they lose investors?

You can't quantify gameplay, and talking about how shit your graphics are going to be before you finish your product isn't productive in the slightest.

REMOVE THE OLD GUARD.

KOIZUMI FOR PRESIDENT
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>>341632214
corporation loyalty, you have to have a deluded amount of it to still put up with Nintendo's shit.
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>>341628515
>I'm sorry but it is Reggie

Pic related, the highest selling console of all time, and the weaker of it's gen.

It's all about accessibility, marketing/word of mouth and a nice library.
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>>341632031
>exclusives that aren't made for five-year-olds

Video games are for children, anon. My 8 year old cousin and apparently all his friends have PS4s, so does that make them children's games?
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>>341632302
Can you guess how i can tell that you never had a console before the 7th gen?
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>>341632189
Which was the previous gen for them. The Wii U is just a beefier Wii, and while it probably wasn't the best move it was good for a consumer like me who didn't get a Wii but still wanted an in-between.
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>>341632302
DEMOGRAPHICS

NOT

HARDWARE

YOU

MORON
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>>341632453
Or that it had a very good feature like being a cheap dvd player
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>>341630783
lazy devs
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>>341627296
As long as it is able to run multiplats it should do fine. Wii U is weak as fuck and they managed to make some good looking games like Mario Kart and Smash, with a lttle more power their first party titles should look great.
I'm more worried about what will the gimmick be, it doesn't have power so VR is out of the question.
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>>341628756
WeePee
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>>341632028
No, the ps4 is THE strongest console to ever be released.

The wii U is horrible under powered.

No matter how weak the ps4 is, everyone else is weaker, this is the objective truth.
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>>341632345

I'd expect an answer like this from an autistic person
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It will take one hell of a launch window line up to get me interested in an NX.

>Super Mario Galaxy 3
>A new RPG Mario game
>Metroid Prime by Retro
>Mario Party 11 that is like the old ones, complete with online and board editor
>Super Mario Maker 2 with slopes
>Pikmin 4
>F-Zero that runs in 1080p/60fps

Give me at least 3 of these and I'll be happy.
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He kind of has a point though, I just want some cool games, why should I give a fuck about teraflops, ram or gpus?

I do since I'm a pcfags, but still, why should I give a fuck about how many bits I'm transferring.
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>>341632426
>Does Nintendo realize every time they say this shit they lose investors?
The amount they lose isn't worth talking about, especially when more will hope on soon enough to see if they can make some money on the NX's launch.
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>>341631931
>i have 0 interest in w101, bayo2, splatoon
>"Don't mention the systems best games BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT"

alright anon
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>>341632402

Mad at what? Polls that validate them?
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>>341632520
And the WiiU has bombed. They tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice and failed not understanding what makes a tablet good

And the wiiu actually has followed the general down turn that nintendo consoles have faced. This plan is not a good one
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>>341632412
>Selling something to people who has no money.

Nice logic. You should start a business.
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>>341632510
That's just idiotic. Most of the "flagship" games are made for older teens and adults.
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>>341631697
not like the situation is any different on the others consoles. I mean what the fuck is everybody playing, all the lists are still largely games that haven't released it
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I had a bad feeling Nintendo was going to try to make the NX the Wii 2 (only this time, it will fail).
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>>341632416

By content they mean amiibos and Mario kart
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>>341632453
so fucking tired of this meme

the ps2 was a great console but the reason it moved so many units was because it was a super cheap DVD player. Like, cheaper than dedicated dvd players.
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>>341632728
No they're not, they're just marketed that way to appeal to children, which are the real consumer base of console games.
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>>341631540
Wait, so you not only think that's the same area in the game but you also think you can tell the difference in polygons in either image? Are you a genuine retard?
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>>341632453
It also came out a year before its two main competitors (GameCube and Xbox) and was practically a cheap DVD player at a time DVD players were expensive.
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>>341632597
PS3 wasn't too far behind PCs at the time it was released. PS4 is so laughably far behind PCs today it's hard to actually laugh at it.

You might have the fastest bicycle out there but you're still getting smoked by that dude over there in his car when you used to be competitive with him when he had a horse.
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>>341632345
Stop lying to yourself.

Zelda is a became a poorly made generic open world game, and forza is shit no one cares about, here are actual pols from multiple sources.

Just google e3 2016 pols right now if you need to.
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>>341632715
I already have. You should finish your elementary education though.
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>>341632690

Nintendo stock is currently plummeting
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>>341628541
If I quit Nintendo, I quit videogames.

I grew up with the SNES and had every Nintendo system after, retroactively playing the NES. I had other systems too, the Ps1 and the Ps2 and the original Xbox and the Dreamcast, but Nintendo has been my anchor in the industry because I relied on them for quality shit. Even this generation I've heavily enjoyed the Wii-U but if they shit themselves in the near future like I think they're going to, I guess it really is finally over.

This gen I've owned a Wii-U, Xbox One, and Ps4. Sold the Ps4 because all it has to play is shovelware and weebshit. Kept the Xbox One because it has a few good titles I like, but if it wasn't supplemented with the Wii-U, I'd be blowing chunks over the stagnation of this industry right now.

Everything else is turning to garbage. If Nintendo is out, you might as well go full /vr/ or suffer.
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>It's about content

What fucking content?

Rehashes and shitty spin offs nobody asked for?

Good Lord they're shooting themselves on the foot.
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>>341631969
>If Nintendo does their own thing they can do whatever the fuck they want
You do realize they can only do "whatever the fuck they want" because they milk the fuck out of their already dwindling fanbase? Unless whatever gimmick the NX is built around will blow normie minds it's going to bomb even harder than the WiiU.
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>>341632645
If you're buying a console at launch, much less expecting a fantasy wish list day 1, then you're the one with the problem here.
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>>341632908
>Jumping straight into baseless insults

Your education is serving you well it seems.
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>>341632707
>Most talked-about game at E3
>Didn't win
Pick one.

Sony had CG trailers, games they "won" with last year and then raped Crash and Kratos on stage.
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>>341632709
And hopefully they'll turn it around. I'm not too excited for the NX all and all.
I'll wait till there's some actual news on it. Keeping silent on shit is bad for speculation sake.
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>>341632871
They're marketed that way and they are rated that way because they are that way. I watched Alien when I was 9 years old because it was the cool thing to do but it doesn't make it a child movie.
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>>341633015
This, nintendo fanboys even bought fucking sticker star
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>>341632302
>The Wii U lost all third party support because the specs were way weaker and different from the competition and it wasn't worth making a separate version of every game for it
Well not only weaker but using a PowerPC architecture when every game engine is designed for x86 today.
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>>341632715

You understand game companies sacrifice specs for price point to reach a larger market share, right? You must have at least some grasp of the most basic fundamentals of economics
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>>341632709
The problem with the Wii U is that tablet technology advanced so quickly in like the 2-3 years the system was in development that it totally outclassed what would have been a cool feature.

What would have been novel 1 year was totally outdated the next, and that's just a risk you take with technology like that, especially now that the rate of advancement is so rapid.
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>>341632304
>Regardless it is still the fastest selling console of all time
This can't be accurate. The current 8th generation needs to sell another ~70 million console units just to match the 5th generation [PS1, Saturn, N64]. Even if all 70 million came from PS4 it would still be lower than PS2 sales.
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>>341633015
Enjoying your $60 f2p shooters and $50 season passes?
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>already confirmed that the NX will be backwards compatible with the Wii U
>the console after that will probably have NX backwards compatibility too

Why are there still don't people who skip Nintendo gens?
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So basically Nintendo is going to try and recapture the Wii audience again (even though mobile/facebook games has them by the hook) by releasing an underpowered console with a unique control scheme.

They're definitely not going to capture any "hardcore" market when the PS4 Neo/Project Scorpio will mean that people get a much more powerful and visually gorgeous horsepower console that's still compatible with their old games and controllers.

And they're likely going to repeat the problem of NoA marketing the console to kids, completely fucking misunderstanding what made the DS and Wii so goddamn popular was their marketing to all audiences and not children.

Who is this for?
Nintendo's trying to capture a "blue ocean" market.
What is a blue ocean market?
Fuck if Nintendo knows.
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>>341633092
They literally are not that way because the main consumer market for games is extremely largely under 18, and most of them are not at the latter end of that scale.
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What does it matter if it's not worse than the Wii U in specs? Like if it's not actively dropping the gen's specs, I don't get what's the difference.
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>>341633067
How is it baseless when you write shit like "people has" and can't understand that keeping production costs low to sell to a lower common denominator can be very profitable? You're either developmentally stunted or didn't receive basic education. I generously assumed it's the latter. Is it not?
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>>341633183
The ISA doesn't matter anywhere near as much as you think it does.
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>>341632903
>Stop lying to yourself.
I'm not. The most talked about game was Zelda by a wide margin. The second most was like Battlefield 1, which had half the mentions. Microsoft created a lot of buzz with their consoles, and Forza Horizon is a stellar series.
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>>341633015
I never said it was good for the user base. But allowing freedom from comparison can allow for a good shot at innovation or it could just have them spinning their wheels more. It looks like the former but with new blood in the offices it could change for the better. Not will, but could.
Pain is a good teacher afterall and if they get a swift kick to the bottom line or their name it might get them moving back in a good direction.
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>>341633267
The wiiu tablet was outdated from the get go, it always looked like a cheap fisher price toy and just seem to fundamentally not get what people like about tablets especially cause it has to be used with the wiiu
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>>341632884
>PS3 wasn't too far behind PCs at the time it was released.

Someone who just started playing games a few years back.
Anon, quit pulling shit out of your ass when you can easily get fact check, pcs have always been way stronger than consoles by the same margine.

Your at the point where you can't even argue about your shitty console cause it's objectivly weak that you make shit up about the how strong the pc was in 2006.

The pc has been getting stronger literally every other month, a new stronger system etc, they don't proggress at the same pace as consoles.

No one is arguing that consoles are better than pc.

Nice fucking try though, but it's a simple fact the ps4 is the greatest console of all time(fastest selling as well), stay mad.
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>>341630883
Even if the NX is as powerful as a PS4, it will be nothing compared to the NEO & SCORPIO.
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>>341633280
It sold the fastest at launch but it's tracking behind both Wii and PS2. 8th gen will have lower total sales than 5th gen unless PS4 manages to move well over 110 million units, the market is contracting.
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>>341633369
Personally, i have disposable income from working.

I assume it's the case for most people outside of /v/
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>>341632964
>Nintendo stock is currently plummeting
>Down by .8%
HOLY SHIT DUDE.
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>>341632873

You can see the difference in assets you unbelievable retard holy hell.

Do you think some areas of the game have static lighting and simplistic assets while other parts of the game will have dynamic lighting and power hungry assets and geometey?
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>>341633435
I didn't think it mattered that much but its just another thing third parties would have to accommodate for to boost performance.
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>>341633443
You realise that that included company accounts and it was the only thing nintendo had to talk about so the only thing they and fanboys posted?

That gap is not reflected anywhere else
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>>341633443
Zelda was only the most talked about because it's a 40 year old series that everyone knows about, the rest of the games on that list haven't even been a series for half that time.

In addition, a lot of the talking came from people who don't even play video games nor will they care when this poorly made mess releases.

Just give up man, it's over.
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>>341628541
I pretty much play on PC+PS4 these days and sometimes with 3DS

I think i will still get their handheld consoles because we are getting bretty good JRPG's like Bravely Second or DQ VII

Nintendo home consoles? Nope.
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>>341629928
They didn't always have that reputation, though. It's all about projecting the right image.
In the 80s and 90s Nintendo projected a very different imagine to the Disney-lite of today.

It'd take some work to shed that now, but it wouldn't hurt to try.
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>>341633053
Fantasy list? lol. The line up better be fucking fantastic since it'll have been 3 years since they put out another game besides Starfox and Mario Maker. They better be working on some awesome stuff or they're dead.

I really hope they aren't putting all their eggs in one basket by putting Zelda on NX. No one is going to buy an NX for that shit.
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>>341632645

>Any of those
>Ever happening

lol

Good luck with that.
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>>341632873
You can't make this shit up.
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>>341633653
>All this damage control
Who do you think was wowed by Sonys CG trailers and Dad of War? Oh, right, people who don't actually like and play games.
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All these Sony twats shitposting in Nintendo threads, I swear to god I have never met anybody angrier than a Sony customer, they are mad constantly, they wake up mad at Nintendo and Microsoft, and they go to bed even madder.
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>>341633748
More like good luck to Nintendo.
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>>341633524
We'll have to wait and see how well Neo and Scorpio end up selling before we can ascertain how negative that would be for Nintendo.

If Neo and Scorpio are slow to take off and every game is still being built with the base consoles in mind, then it doesn't seem like it would be much of an issue.
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>>341633076

Everyone on twitter is complaining about links gender.

Also discussion of the one game is much less than the combined discussion of other companies games so there's really no way to rationally believe nintendo won anything without jumping through logical hoops the way an autistic drone would
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>>341628950
they're probably still following gunpei yokoi's design philosophy, which was good in the 80's and 90'S but not so much now
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