Are games finally art?
More like DEVIANTart because Mpreg is fucked up.
>>341620389
all the scripts by kojima in the last decade have been garbage this is no different.
They always were
>>341620389
Hank Hill´s Ass.jpg
>>341620389
What the fuck is that
>>341620389
Are sticks and ropes art?
>>341621759
It's a game with man ass. The game can only be from one man.
Kojima has literally never written a good story
MGS1 was a rip off of Escape from New York with garbage subplots like genes and boss sob stories, 2 was a mess of entry level philosophy ideals poorly clustered together, 3 was a blatant James Bond rip off with a Mary Sue and autistic Solid Snake copy, 4 was the single worst story ever told in video games, and 5 wasn't even finished story-wise
>>341620389
This was a movie, so yes.
>>341621867
I hope this bait triggers all the kojimbo autists
>>341622383
it's bait but it's still true
>>341622383
>if an opinion hurts my feelings, it's just bait
>>341622462
mgs1 was more of a rip off of 'the rock'
it just stole kurt russels character otherwise it's nothing like it
the rest is accurate
>>341621790
tumblr most likely believes they are
>>341622462
It's hyperbolic.
>>341620389
Games are movies now, so yes.
>>341622383
>bait
lol
>>341620389
No, they're better than art. They've entered the KINO realm.
>>341620389
It's just Kojima taking a piss to the players.
>>341620389
Games were always art, just in their own way.
>>341620389
Kojombodino games have always been art, and this is coming from someone that prefers splinter cell to mgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jsmyrm-VC8
>>341620389
if certain games would stop being vaporware, yes
>sci-fi action game
>Kojimbo shows naked man fondling a naked baby
God damn it.
Wait a fucking second
this is the new kojimbo game?
trailer link?
>>341622961
Look up Death Stranding
>>341620389
What mode is this latsonly?
>>341622880
this game looks like shit dude
its art on the level of "bold and brash" you faggot
I was dissapointed in MGS4, Peace Walker, and MGSV
But THIS TIME he won't let me down! I'm very much looking forward to the gameplay reveal in 2019
>>341620389
They've been for 15 years
>>341623159
>this game looks like shit dude
is this faggot serious?
GAMES WILL NEVER BE ART
FUCKKKK OFFFFFFFFFF
>>341620389
wish bootleg moot would implement a fucking rule on which if you don't post the title of the game mods will delete your thread on sight
Instead I have to manually hide shitty threads about a fucking gook and his meme games manually
>>341623179
>2019
>implying we'll have time to play games after trump starts the great war in 2018
>>341620389
No.
But game trailers sure are.
You are fucking retarded op. More than retarded, a testament of human stupidity. Proof that even all mighty mother nature can fuck up on an unpredictable scale. You are a mentally deranged stack of solidified vomit. Fuck you are everything you hold dear you piece of shit. How can call a fucking not even two minutes long video of some gay ass naked caveman raping a toddler surrounded by carcasses and 5 evangelion shinjis masturbating in the sky be a fucking art piece you half brain mongol. You better go throw yourself in molten lava in a nearest active volcano right now because I fear for this planet if you don't. Every time you open you stupid ass mouth ozone layer takes a blow above you. Maybe we would have cured cancer this decade if it wasn't for you mutating dna in a milion miles radius around you with you aura of idiocy. Maybe there was god once but he killed himself when he saw what kind of shitstain was born the day you came out of a shrek of a woman that is your mother. I bet you have 17 fingers. I bet you would eat Kojima's tumors if he got cancer and had them surgically removed and thrown into the sewers where rats with ebola had an orgy on top of them. Please do this planet and all of humanity a favor and cut off your balls, because if you bring an offspring into this world I fear some lovecraft level deity might spontaneously spawn into existence just to murder every single one of us so a special case like you never has a chance to happen again.
>that trashy fucking indie song
Why Kojima's musical taste so garbage, bros?
K I N O
I
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O
>>341620389
>Red Dead 2 reveal was canceled
>this is somehow okay because KUJEEMERS
What the absolute Christ was that
Rich evans react to the trailer
www.twitch 0 tv/previouslyrecorded_live/v/72671203
@1:08
>>341624003
fuck off goddamn /tv/ niggers
>>341624008
>not knowing that /v/ is kojima fanboy city
if koji announced that he joined 343, and would be working on the next halo with them, this entire board would shift from bashing the series, to pretending like they loved it from the very beginning.
>>341624185
what is the kino meme even?
>>341623334
This is a board for video game enthusiasts. If you don't know what the image is from, maybe you should pay a little closer attention to the industry. This was a much anticipated title from a much talked about studio.
You're so summer I got sunburned.
>>341620389
I don't care. No one should
>>341624252
Kino means cinema
>>341624008
>>Red Dead 2
That came out 7 years ago, nigger.
>>341624315
thanks
>>341620389
Pure kino
>>341624008
Kojima makes better games so yes
>>341620389
I sure rope so.
>>341620389
goddammit this trailer is so much Kino
>>341620389
Even kojima himself said games can never be art
>>341624240
Bullshit, senpai. There's some pro, some anti kojima extremists, but most are cautiously interested and awaiting new contents.
Thanks to anonymity, most voice their opinion in a more extreme way, but let's get real, no one here sucks his dick nor cuts it off.
learn into anonymous shitshouting, bra
>>341623663
10/10 honestly
>inb4 "lmao i thought he was gunna fuck the baby"
>inb4 NEWBORN PORN
Kojima is pretty much fucking around and testing how much he can get away with and still be worshipped by his retarded fanbase.I'm sure he going to show Daryl's full frontal until some Sony exec slapped this idea away
the guy reminds me a lot of the guy from TWD
>>341624389
Yeah sure thing
>all games and movies try to simulate Drive, a 5 year old film
Its really sad honestly.
Kojima's strength is not story telling. His strength is his variable gameplay and direction.
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWgC472eDyg
>>341624257
I fucking knew that the op pic was from the next tentacle simulator made by that gook,I have a set of filter rules that are catching memewatch and other games on which idgaf so by having a fucking title forced would just cut all the Kojima related words to one or two
>>341625242
I was a little bit disappointed.
I felt like it repeated itself a bit too much
>>341625171
You must be joking. There's been a cult of personality surrounding Kojima on /v/ for several years. Maybe in recent times he's received more criticism but historically he's been the subject of much adoration on this board.
>>341626472
If that's supposed to be his strength then he's very weak overall.
>>341620389
I hate how Artsy it looked
Are games not about gameplay anymore?
>>341626760
>Are announce trailers not about gameplay anymore
u wot
>>341626760
It's a teaser, why are people acting like this is the entire game and only kojima makes cinematic teasers? Teasers usually have no gameplay
>>341626724
From a tone, art, and sound direction his work is good.
He keeps things up with good pacing and progression
His stories are just stoner fantasies however with no real girth or weight to them
what do you not like?
>>341626760
to be fair this trailer has probably zero to do with the actual game
the game doesn't even have an engine. all we know is that there is a certain emphasis on ropes/strands in the "keeping things close to me safe" sense.
>>341626905
I mean, isn't it mostly Metal Gear that he makes nowadays? I liked Zone of the Enders but it seems like he's been focusing on just that in recent times.
>>341626857
>>341626898
But why do trailers have to be artsy and cinematic?
How does that sell you on things?
Legitimate question, I really don't understand how just cinematics and how pretty it looks can sell you on something.
>>341627047
Focusing on just Metal Gear that is. Not to say that all Metal Gear games play exactly the same, but I want more than just stealth style games.
I thought Z.O.E's was excellent, why can't he make more of those?
>>341621867
sorry no one took your bait
I don't believe games are art
games have artistic things about them, the animations, music,and stories and all of that is art. But the complete package is not art because it can not be experienced objectively by people.
when you look at a picture or listen to a song you are experiencing it objectively the same as everybody else and have a subjective interpretation of it
in a game since the objective experience will vary so wildly between people it can not be art.
>>341627076
Why can't they be?
>this is too much for me and games
Personally I'm hype because of the 5 figures in the sky which look really paranormal/higher power. It looks badass man. And reedus looks pissed.
>>341627160
>I thought Z.O.E's was excellent, why can't he make more of those?
Konami property.
games are art.
question is, can they be HIGH art?
>>341627349
That's what sold me too, really has an EVA feel to it
>>341620389
It's a message about abortion being murder.
>>341624257
>paying attention to the e3
sorry it hasn't been worth paying attention for 12 years
>>341627359
Ah, I see. What about when he was with Konami though? Did they just force him to make only Metal Gear or what?
Games are literally a culmination of art. This idea that games can't be art or have some type of deeper meaning is retarded. Games should have good gameplay and most of it should be gameplay though.
>>341621515
>the last decade
>not in general
>>341627494
Kojima has a way of including really cool shit that is just badass. He of course includes deep stuff in his trailers a lot but that's not what ever sells me, it that was all that sells me I would be excited over every other game these days but I'm not.
i HATE video games
I'LL KEEP CUMMING
>>341623312
>He thinks any game from the Ico series was actually good
boi
Kojimbo is a pretentious hack who has a fanbase of autistic kiddos who try to find some pattern in his delirium.
Holy fuck, these kids are worse than all of the Soulsborne fanbase combind.
>>341628751
Most people like his games because they're very cool and creative, speculation is just speculation. And he always gives a lot to speculate. Check that autism.
it's official
>Toy
Metal Gear Rising
>Game
Metal Gear Solid 3
>Artistic Experience
Metal Gear Solid 2
>Kino
Death Stranding
>>341629014
What about 1 and 4?
>>341629237
Both are games
>>341620389
Couldn't you just call this a short film and call it art? There's no gameplay so it's not a game. You could probably call this death stranding art and nobody will even fight you about it.
except the "what is art"fags.
>>341628908
>cool and creative
That's pretentious*, ftfy
>>341628908
>most people like his games because *every reason but gameplay*
worried.jpg
>>341624257
>he wants the parkourcharted and the division crowd
Basically a game that has 3 playtroughs tops (if more you're just autistic) and an already dead game with scripted open world elements,a grindwall and crappy dlcs with cut content cause they had to rush it through and possibly patch it later for the maybe 20k people who are still playing said crap
Knowing this it will be shit like Fulton Pain with some hobo jewlliwood actor that was once pregnant and is now wandering inside the Studio Rocket's closet
>>341629576
Yeah liking a game based off concept is so pretentious, don't use words you don't understand.
>>341629698
Every game he's made has good gameplay, at this point my curiosity is peaked but of course the gameplay is still the most important part. I have faith though.
>>341621790
tying a noose is an art
>>341621623
This.
>>341620389
Games have always been art. It's just that interactive digital art blows some old peoples minds.
It always has been, it's just that there's some sort of "High Art" concept that's sneaking its way in-
like the photorealism capabilities are leading to some sort of "Gaming Renaissance."
It's okay that it's happening, but there's a definite rift and everyone's trying to be high art while some people are desperately trying to hold onto fun.
>>341634185
Kojima has shown you can do both those things though. That's what is so great about games in my opinion.
The simple answer is no.
Painting is art, music is art, movies are art, anything that can emotionally move you is art.
Therefore, video games aren't art. They are toys made for adults who are castrated by xenestrogen and liberalism. Make men men again and ban video games.
>>341626293
I think you should leave and rethink your life.
>>341634532
I never said that he didn't.
I'm very interested in DS, that was just a statement about what OP asked as a generalization about the medium.
>>341634698
Dude, 10/10. That is fucking handcrafted bait right there, got me to reply and everything.
I'm impressed.
Its the art for intellectual peasants, which is great because I was never a smart boy
>>341634819
Fuck off. You and I both know it's true.
Much like a drug addict justifying his addiction, gamers will always turn down studies that prove gaming is degeneracy.
>>341620389
Why is Darryl going to fuck that baby?
IM NAAAAAAAAKEEEEEED
>>341620389
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER...Norman Reedus will fuck a fetus in a video game.
My god, what a time to be alive.
>>341635621
D-do you think that might actually happen?
>>341634698
>He said, posting a moe anime avatar on a video-game board
Self-hate much?
>Xenoestrogens and liberalism
Very few males take all the steps necissary to avoid xenoestrogen and EDC exposure reduction, and as one of them I can't say it correlates with not playing vidya. I know more about the subject of endocrine disruptors and environmental toxins than you do and can think of no correlations. Chad Dudebro is exposed to the same xenoestrogens that vidya players are, and estrogen exposure (at least in the USA) sliiightly correlates with conservatism.
>>341634698
>anime
>not the ultimate source of castrated masculinity and degeneracy
>>341622462
This
I'LL KEEP CUMMING
>>341620389
The summer wind
came blowing in
across the sea
>>341635621
ITS AWWWWRIGHT
>>341635203
>studies that prove gaming is degeneracy.
Hahahahaha what. I'm keking at the mental image of reading a study on pubmed about this.
>"Conclusion, at the result of the 16 week double-blind controlled study, the Degeneracy Transformation Index (DTI) of the gamers was 45.6% higher than the group receiving the placebo (The WII U). These results show that a high degree of degeneracy is built up in serum levels among long-term gamers"
>>341627639
Yes. Zone of Enders 3 was in production until Konami said no. Kojima hasn't wanted to make a metal gear since 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c4nZJ4ryFE
This is art, video games are not.
>>341627076
Because they have a couple minutes worth of stuff to show you, and can make a cool teaser with a bunch of clues and riddle for fans to obsess over for 6 months until the first game pla trailer comes out
>>341636801
Wow metal gear 6 looks sick
I tried so hard, and got so far.
>>341623179
Ground Zeroes didn't disappoint me, however it did make me even more hyped for TPP, which in the end was just misleading.
>>341623423
>implying it wont be Hilary in 2017
>>341624008
Red Dead is kind of a one-off game though, the setting is cool, but the Wild West only has enough tropes, scenery and themes to fill one game up.
Red Dead 1 just needs a full remaster
>>341620389
NEW
I'M STILL _____
>>341636967
well that's because of the cell processor of the ps3
But will you get to actually play as a naked man with a baby?
Or is it all allegorical?
>>341620389
art as in, eugh what the fuck?!?!???!?
sure!
>>341639637
im guessing just the naked man. babys probly allegorical. who knows tho kojima is known to take things autistically literally. like he probably thinks those umbilical cords are called "strands" and thats part of the death "stranding." anyway im preordering this
>>341627450
This guy gets it
>>341639889
a stranding is where you strand yourself
like all those dead animals washed up on shore in the trailer
it's a cetacean stranding.
>>341627450
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsch
![FeAl0[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6zmcxbI.png "FeAl0[1].png")
Games have been art for a while though.
Real games, made art through their gameplay not by imitating movies.
Kojima games do have a lot of TECHNOLOGY though, and their gameplay is always pretty polished so I'll give him that. It's good that even though he loves sucking Hollywood cock so much he doesn't neglect the more important parts.
>If it show a naked man, it's art
>If it show a naked girl, it's pandering shit, especially if she's cute
