Why is there so many people on /v/ against dual audio?
Those "against dual audio" are just shitposters
no jp audio, no buy.
>>341620110
People are against ONLY English dubbing. They would love the option to switch between the two.
>no Japanese audio
>still use lazy translators who don't even know how to handle localizing honorifics and shit like senpai
I hate dual audio
games should be japanese-only
>>341620110
Being against people constantly derailing threads with posts about no dual audio no buy =//= being against dual audio.
WHY DONT YOU LIKE OUT DUBS, EHHNAHN-COON?
Can't speak jap, why the fuck do I want the voices in Japanese. So I can read the bottom of my screen the entire game?
nah I'm good, thanks.
>>341620512
i couldn't give a rat's ass if there was eng, pol, arabic, chinese audios if there was also original jap.
I don't think I will buy it if has JP audio with it
vote with your wallet
>>341620658
Hi John
Why is no one upset that dark souls 3 doesn't have the original japanese voices?
Why is no one upset that MGS V doesn't have the original japanese voices?
Why is persona 5 the only game that caused everyone to get butthurt over the lack of japanese voices?
>English audio that includes all the honorifics and senpai stuff
Wow, it's like I'm really in an anime club
I hope they don't cave to you pathetic weebshitters.
If it has dual audio I just won't buy it.
>>341620110
I'm not against it. I just don't care enough about it to elevate a lack of it to dealbreaker tier importance. There's a different between the two.
>>341620110
Because I'm a pirate and I'd rather not download all that extra audio I'm not going to use
>>341620110
>JPN voices will be 5 dollars and come out a week after the game
>>341620790
because persona is set with japanese teenagers, in a japanese town, while they do japanese things, so hearing a 40 year old woman say OH GOD KANJI COON KAWAII SUGOI is pretty terrible
>>341620790
Of all the games, you pick the two games that had english as their main voices. Is this bait or just being bad at giving examples?
And the reasoning is that P5 has an amazing JP cast.
Dual audio is cool. Selling you JP voices as DLC isn't.
>>341620512
You should understand that this is a serious issue and can't be ignored in an Persona 5 thread. Either accept it or get the fuck off to another hugbox board where all your dubshit brothers gather and discuss how awesome it is that there won't be dual audio.
>>341620110
Shills, Americans and Neofaggots.
I wonder why devs don't catch on that I'd even gladly buy the Japanese audio pack as non-free $9.99 DLC
it's like they hate money
>>341620110
I'm not. I just don't care. If they put in dual audio I would use english so I can understand what's being said because I am not autistic.
If you understood Japanese the VAs would sound just as stupid. Because the dialouge in persona games is bad.
>>341621131
At least with jap audio the dialogue won't get worse due to shitty script and VAs.
>>341620110
>Super hyped for God Eater Resurrection and Burst 2
>DUB only
My anticipation and hype went down the drain.
>>341621013
dark souls doesn't even have other dubs aside from English.
>>341620790
Same fags who were crying about "muh censorship" in Nintendo games, like NoA hasn't been censoring shit for a while now.
Why actually do something about a missing feature in a game when you can just sit on your fatass and shitpost on an irrelevant chinese cartoon board on the internet? And to be honest, I doubt that there are enough retards who want dual audio that can actually hold out and not buy P5.
>>341621016
Why don't Japanese games ever include English VA?
>>341620110
I like the Personas dub, im sure ill enjoy this one too
>>341621441
>what's #FE
lmao
>>341620790
>Dark Souls
>Japanese voices
Is this bait?
>>341620110
because weeaboos should fuck off
>>341620790
Because both MGS 5 and Dark Soul 3 have good VAs.
Anime games will never ever have good dubs.
No dual audio No buy
>>341620110
Because SJWs are racist against Japan and cultural reappropriation doesn't apply to them it's "improving and making it better".
>>341620110
>against
I'm pretty sure the majority is for dual audio, sometimes japanese audio only
>>341620790
souls games have english voices even in japan
they also use stage actors instead of typical VA trash that voices jrpg, this is why souls games and ff12 have godly english voice acting and persona has shit instead
in fact bloodborne got a japanese VA before the DLC release and it was so painfully inferior to english version it physically hurt my ears
>>341621796
THIS
>you will be forced to heard Ashley Burch and Yuri Lowenthal once again instead of this godlike Japanese cast
>burgers fat are defending this
Normalfags should fuck off from persona games to be honest.
>>341621481
Call of duty has had Japanese audio versions and a subtitled English audio versions since 4 I think
>>341620110
Who is against it? The fact of the matter is they probably can't include it since games here are way cheaper than in moon land and nips would reverse import it
It is just market protectionism
>>341620790
>Why is no one upset that dark souls 3 doesn't have the original japanese voices?
Even in the japanese version the voices are all in English
>>341621920
So
>AAA and AA games have good English dub
>niche budget games doesn't
Where's Persona5 then?
>>341620110
not against it.
I just don't pretend that jap VAs are better than english VAs, because I can't understand them.
>>341620465
>>341620315
>>341620110
dual audio means it has both english and japanese you fucking idiots
>>341621481
Ace Combat does, most playthroughs on nico nico of the games have english audio on. only one I don't think had the choice was 4 and Zero was english only I think.
>>341621481
Final Fantasy and other games with international versions use the English dub
>>341622159
blame atlus being a greedy ass, i don't believe they can't hire good actors
but if p5's dub is anything like 4 and especially 3 i won't fucking touch it before ps4 is hacked wide open
>>341622242
no Zero has japanese I just remember every japanese trailer having english.also 5's japanese dub is terrible.
>>341622218
It isn't better because you can't understand them. It's better because it fucking is.
t. someone who understands both, and a non-native English speaker, so 0 bias towards any of them.
CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR CRISPIN FREEMAN, TARA STRONG, YURI LOWENTHAL, LAURA BAILEY & JOHNNY YONG BOSCH AGAIN
>>341621040
You mean I won't allow you to like anything unless it has dual audio threads aren't giant hugboxes where no other opinions are allowed?
Not really bothered desu, P4's English dub was quite well done so this should be no exception. The more content the better. Faggots like these
>>341620340
>>341620465
>>341621364
>>341621767
>>341622085
need to either learn moonspeak or fuck off. Japan is for weebs, the west isn't.
>>341622385
It probably will be around the same. Remember that dubshitter honestly think that there is nothing wrong with 3 or 4's dub, and are wondering why your weeb ass likes the Japanese voices better. They are that delusional.
>>341622520
I like all of those people
>>341622596
>>341622534
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
>>341622596
>P4's English dub was quite well done
LMAO
>>341620790
>Why is persona 5 the only game that caused everyone to get butthurt over the lack of japanese voices?
That's only the most recent example. How about Xenoblade X or FE Fates?
>>341622457
>understand both
sure you do bud.
>>341622882
Sure I do.
>>341622813
Nice argument you got there
>>341621481
Usually because the game is released in Japan first, and localization happens later. Since Japan is their primary market, they won't hold the release waiting for west to finish dubbing.
>>341620790
Maybe because nowadays every major Japanese release includes them, so there is nothing to complain about.
Unless of course you want to tell me you somehow didn't notice that people were also assdevastated about Xenoblade Chronicles X leaving them out, despite the previous game having them.
>>341620110
I'm not against it. I just don't care because what I actually care about is my game being in english.
In fact, now that I think about it, I'd rather it not have any Jap audio at all. I don't want them getting used to the idea that maybe they can bullshit us by just having subtitles with Jap audio.
I literally stopped playing Agahrest because of that shit. Jap audio sounds terrible 90% of the time.
>>341622942
If you understand Japanese. Why not just import the Japanese version? And stop bitching online?
>>341623041
so, why can't they have english dub dlc as soon as it's ready?
>>341623113
How to spot the shitter.
Can you believe it? These kind of people post on 4chan now, and they literally think it's okay for them to post here. That they are welcome here. That this website is meant for them.
>>341623156
Because if I bought a game and started hearing japanese audio and no option for english, I'd return it and never touch the series again which is what I'm sure a bunch of people with even less time and interest in the hobby than me (most of the market) would do the same.
Pretty solid way to fuck up your series in the west for several years.
>>341620435
Honestly, I'm at the point where, if I'm able to, if I hear "senpai" one fucking time in the English dub, I'm immediately switching to JP audio. I generally prefer dubs, but there's a big difference between what Treehouse does and a proper localization. That shit doesn't belong in English.
>>341622993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZvsuY2DdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtD6xGD9RII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R39QSuVsztY min 1:20
WOAH....
>>341621481
Because translations are handeled by the regional branch of the company. Japan has no reason to add English VA for their audience because their audience only needs the game in Japanese. Why hire and pay English VAs for something their audience won't use, thats what their North American counterparts are for.
It makes no sense to remove Japanese VA from the NA game when they're already available and completed. In fact in some cases it would be better to just throw out the idea of using English VA to reduce the cost that goes into translating the game.
Personally I'm starting to feel that the US is more xenophobic than Japan since we go through so much trouble of eliminating their culture from most games.
>>341623120
Like clockwork. Did I ever imply I won't? I was just here pointing out that you are wrong if you think the english dub is of the same quality, because it fucking isn't.
>>341620110
Just mute the game or voice audio if given the option. Can't see how people are triggered hearing their own native tongue in a game.
>>341623156
Japan doesn't generally care for English voice acting. You think America is bad with dubs? In Japan they dub over absolutely everything, even the live-action movies.
>>341623113
>I literally stopped playing Agahrest because of that shit
You could have stopped playing Agarest for plenty of reasons, and lack of English audio is one you went for?
>>341620110
>Persona 5 won't have dual audio
Thank Christ. NeoGAF got blown the fuck out so hard this year.
No female Link.
No dual audio in Persona 5
Persona 5 PS3 100% coming out in English
PS4.5 is real and they need to purchase it again
Cry harder
>>341623485
>own native tongue
kek
>>341621317
>Worse
They should call you Stupie ace defective
>>341620110
/co/mblr hates it others not
>>341623458
>you're wrong
>no actual evidence, just opinion
kewl
>>341623418
>Personally I'm starting to feel that the US is more xenophobic than Japan since we go through so much trouble of eliminating their culture from most games.
well yeah, other cultures are bad. wouldn't want to expand your horizon while playing games
>>341623371
You are very American.
>>341623287
Cry more faggot. I watch anime in jap if I have to but I'll pick dub any day of the week if I can get it.
Go cry on /a/ you little faggot. You don't belong here.
>>341623408
>WOAH
woah what? im not sure what you're trying to say
>>341623738
>These fucking people breath the same air as I do
>>341623738
Do you also watch foreign movies dubbed in English?
>>341623485
Because they are weebs. Weebs can not handle something that isn't japanese. They trick themselves into thinking japanese voice acting is better when its just the same shit but instead of having the same actors in every thing you have different actors doing the same voice.
>>341623510
Yes. It looked interesting but I literally couldn't stand the voice acting.
If it makes you feel better, I stopped plaing Star Ocean IV on PS3 because I couldn't stand the english voice acting although I made it farther in that game than I did with Agarest.
It's for faggots who fuck themselves with a fedora on a dragon dildo
I am just gonna wait for the undubed PS3 version made by fans.
720p is a price i am wiling to pay for having Japanese characters in japan speak Japanese
>>341623738
>americans
>>341623659
What the fuck does /co/ have to do with this?
>>341623869
Yes, why wouldn't I?
I don't care about dual audio, I'll play it in Japanese. All I want is to play it for Morgana-tan.
>>341623725
I accept subtitles for shows and movies but not for games I'm trying to enjoy and that require a higher level of interaction from me.
Maybe you guys are more used to dealing with that garbage because you can't decide what language to speak. Maybe that's why we're called the UNITED States of America and your "Union" is failing terribly.
>>341623738
Which normalfags are you trying to impress, you are still watching anime you self hating weeb
>>341624031
Just wondering.
>>341622085
>dubfags will never know the glory of Jouji Nakata
I actually pity those normie fucks.
>>341624126
The only self hating faggots here are the weebs.
What sane individual wouldn't want to interact with any form of media in their own language?
>>341623704
Yeah because you provided so much evidence. Way to miss the point, dubshitter. For the last time, I am only reacting to your accusation that people only think the Japanese voices are better because they don't understand them. That is not true, example: me.
>>341623785
amerfats VA's = TRASH
>>341620110
I always prefer the original language the game or movie was produced in.
Dubs can't capture the soul of the game.
>>341623156
Because just like you wouldn't care about getting the Swahili dub for GAME where 1 person voices every character with a bad microphone, Japanese people don't care about getting inferior voices that are distanced from the original intent and voices by massive blobs of Murrican grease who can't act to save their lives.
>>341622085
>Sugita
Fuck. I guess I'll CFW my PS3.
>>341620110
because English dub has 0 feeling
>>341624447
Not an argument
>>341620110
Normies.
Persona is entry-level tier of weeaboo stuff.
It's the Cowboy Bebop of video games.
>>341624386
Just save yourself from further embarrassment and get the fuck off this site already.
Thanks.
Wait, do ANY Persona or even SMT games have dual audio? Why are we even asking for it now?
>>341624386
I definitely don't want to look at Finnish porn. That shit is just awkward.
>>341624487
Dubs actually do it better a lot of the time.
If you understood jap like me, you'd know how shit their voicework actually is. Lots of things sound better than they are when you don't actually understand them.
Don't make the mistake I did and try to learn their shit language thinking you will enjoy their stuff more.
>tfw everyone is complaining about dual audio, staggered release and censorship
I'm still hyped
Because there are morons that are okay with paying the extra 'Atlus Tax' for nothing.
>>341620110
>Japanese audio as DLC
Yeah fuck off. No buy. P4 Gold literally made me cringe as I played.
>>341624628
Too late kid. I've hacked your IP and I'm going to follow you around the site stating my opinions forever and ever.
>>341623394
This senpai
>>341623408
I got halfway through the first one. Disgusting.
>>341624629
Nigger, we have always been asking for it, but wasn't granted, so we were playing the undubbed version on a modded console.
This is the biggest release of Atlus since forever, this is the line for most people. This is the time to finally make Atlus understand that it's totally not okay to ignore those who like the Japanese voices better any longer.
That's it.
>>341624597
>watched a shitload of anime
>couldn't even be bothered to watch more than 5 episodes of Cowboy Bebop
>>341624695
>Wanting anything but a 1-2 roll
off yourselves
>>341624487
What are you talking about, I would love to have a swahili dub just to turn it on for 10 minutes and laugh about it.
Movies in europe often come with 5-8 langauges, some of it is really fun
>>341624695
NEET girl confuses me
How does her jacket stay on when she wears it like that?
And how do her headphones stay on when she wears them with the strap behind her head
>>341624629
People have been asking for it for ages, starting from PS2 days. Which makes it even more amazing that it's still not a thing, seeing how simply Squenix could add JP voices to FFXIII on Steam.
Combination of those is why people are upset. Their requests have been ignored for so long, and at same time other companies don't see to have any trouble with this.
>>341624694
I know Japanese and you're wrong (though it's obvious you're lying), don't worry about it.
Reminder that in the case of Persona, if you prefer the English """""dub""""", you are the real weeb, not the people who want the Jap voices.
Spoken honorifics and random Japanese in English sentences is the defining characteristic of insufferable weeaboos. Having the English script in this style means the dub is targeted specifically at horiffically cringey weeaboos.
I say this as someone who prefers English dubs. The shitty Persona dub is absolutely fucking horrendous and unplayable.
>>341620110
>against dual audio
Nobody's against dual audio, people want the original voices.
I'm not from burgerland, so why do I need to support a release that focuses only on burgerland and tells everyone else to eat shit?
And yes I understand Japanese and I can definetely buy the japanese version, but I'd like to support the western release without being forced to listen to some 50 year old fucks pretending to be japanese teenagers while not even trying to match the characters with their voices. American VAs are trash, the people that defend this garbage are only burgers because you people are so retarded you can't watch/read anything that's not in english.
Movies are never subtitled there, games are the same.
>>341624695
Reminder that Morgana is a BOY.
>>341625043
>Movies are never subtitled there, games are the same.
Wait, then how do they watch foreign movies?
>>341625203
dubbed
>>341620790
>being this fucking retarded
Both DS3 and MGSV have english as their main language, Persona doesnt.
>Why is persona 5 the only game that caused everyone to get butthurt over the lack of japanese voices?
Where the fuck have you been newfag? There were plenty of people upset about FE: Fates and Xenoblade, most japanese games nowadays feature dual audio, people are rightfully upset that not only are we getting the game 7 months after Japan, but AtlusUSA can't even be arsed to add something that is pretty much standard nowadays.
>>341624958
Cowboy Bebop sounds a thousand times better dubbed than it does in jap.
>>341625203
with the voices of the original actors.
>>341624859
>This is the biggest release of Atlus since forever
That amazes me the most. The western PR for the game has been horrible compared to what Japan has, and trailers are released very late.
Bamco managed near-simultaneous release for Tales of Vesperia back in the day, how the fuck is there such a large delay with Persona 5? What's stopping them from localizing it in tandem with developement?
>>341625317
Drown in your own lard, burgerlander.
>dubshitters think they can compete with Jouji Nakata and Nana Mizuki
>there are dubshitters right in this threads claiming that anime dubs are superior to japanese VAs
>they probably watch anime in english
>>341620110
Right, seeing as a Japanese dub release in the west is apparently giving them a real hard time, I gotta ask, what about the opposite?
Will the JP ver have english subtitles as an option?
If so, that might be a workaround, I think.
>>341625317
No it doesn't. You just have nostalgia from Toonami or whatever the shit it's called that thing you burgers have
>>341625354
Drown in muslims europoor.
>>341620790
>>341620790
>Why is persona 5 the only game that caused everyone to get butthurt over the lack of japanese voices?
Maybe because the English script is an awful cringeworthy pile of dogshit?
>>341625531
Good thing I'm not European!
>>341625495
I've watched it in both you ignorant lying nigger and I know that it sounds better with the english dub.
>>341625461
Japanese don't make games for baka gaijins.
>>341622596
>The more content the better.
>but he disagrees with people who want dual audio
what
>>341625406
Wow you didnt present a single argument, almost like you're a complete fucking idiot!
>>341625651
Because you have nostalgia from your shitty /co/ toonami garbage
>>341622596
>P4's English dub was quite well done
>>341621742
>Anime games
it's almost as if they're all shit or something.
>>341625317
To me, it often depends on what language I heard first.
For example I watched Malcolm in the Middle in German when I grew up so I'm too used to it and it feels weird hearing it in English.
Scrubs however I watched in English from season 3 on so I feel drawn to the original voices.
>>341625547
P3 and P4 were both supremely popular and beloved games on /v/ at the time they were released. There were absolutely no complaints about muh Jap audio then, so why now?
>>341625461
>If so, that might be a workaround, I think.
Some Dragonball games have English voices included right from the start. I remember at one when you switch to English from Japanese, JP Goku says something like "Oh, you want to learn English? Good for you!"
When switching to Japanese from English, the EN Goku says "Well, go ahead, but you won't understand anything."
Anyway, there's also Bravely Default: For the Sequel edition. It included both English audio and script in Japan.
The DS releases of original Phoenix Wright trilogy also included the English version, that you could switch to in main manu.
>>341625779
And what is your argument? People who voiced anime and anime games in the west does it because they are too shit to do disney tier stuff.
Anime dubs will always be trash but keep sucking that JYB dick you fucking faggot.
>>341625945
Its very easy to hack a ps2 and play the undub also emulator.
>>341621742
>MG
>DaS
>Not anime
My sides
MGS being the most obvious one, I can forgive you for trying to pretend DaS is not anime as fuck though because maybe you haven't read the story or don't know any characters and just focused on rolling around or just never played the game.
>>341625945
>bought P3P in English
>stopped playing because of shitty voice acting
I'm glad I learned Japanese since then. Now I can pirate my Vita and play it the way it was meant to be, after I'm done with 1 and 2.
>>341620110
I don't care.
I don't care if it has dual audio. I don't care if it's only in English. I just don't understand all the assblasted responses from the "NO JP LANGUAGE TRACK I'M PIRATING YOUR SHIT NOW ATLUS REEEEEEEEEEE" crowd. 90% of the don't even speak Japanese, why the fuck do they care?
If the English language track is so bad, mute the voice audio and read the subtitles. There, you accomplished the same fucking thing as you would if they were speaking Japanese, nobody is saying aloud anything you can understand and you're forced to read the dialogue.
>not getting the ps3 undub
Could an american here explain to me why you people like dubs so much? I'm from a small country in europe and here it's generally looked down upon to watch something in dubs, almost no movies or tv-series that air here feature dubs, only subs.
>>341626080
Yeah, and I bet all of 5% of the total playerbase actually did that. Get real.
>>341625886
So fuck off from this thread and go back to your Kojima movie Reedus game buddy.
>>341626116
By anime you know what I mean you fucking dumbass.
>but le dark is le based on le berserk!!!!!
>and MGS is full le le mecha so its anime!!!!
>>341625964
>I remember at one when you switch to English from Japanese, JP Goku says something like "Oh, you want to learn English? Good for you!"
>When switching to Japanese from English, the EN Goku says "Well, go ahead, but you won't understand anything."
Perfect summary of glorious yamato mindset vs. fat and lazy slobs in America.
>>341626161
>Mute the OST and SFX of the game because some retard is trying to make a retarded point
>Having every character be a mute
Try again next time
>>341620110
As someone who prefers English dub.
I don't understand why they can't include both.
>>341624564
Play the VN Euphoria.
Then try to imagine a English dubbed version of that.
>>341626189
Because videogames are made for children, and children don't want to read subs.
>>341626161
So if you watch a foreign movie that is not dubbed, you just mute it and read the subtitles?
Well if Atlus won't do dual-audio, at least make the JP version have the option of english subs and menus so people can import it like DOAX3.
>>341626161
People are voting with their wallets. They have been asking for dual audio for ages, so when company ignores their demands, why should they support them, especially when it's possible to play the version they asked for?
>f the English language track is so bad, mute the voice audio and read the subtitles. There, you accomplished the same fucking thing
Not being able to make out emotion from spoken speech even if you don't understand the language is a sign of being mentally disabled.
>>341626329
>Berserk
Read more manga, DaS has Berserk influences here and there but there's much more. The characters even more so.
>>and MGS is full le le mecha so its anime!!!!
MG has literal albino toku samurais, mechas, fuccbois and esp shit going on.
>!!!
>le
Kill yourself retard.
>>341620110
Nobody is against it but bitching that it's not in a game is pretty stupid.
>>341626381
Most of these ADD riddled faggots can't read subtitles while paying attention to the game/movie.
>>341625964
I know that some games in the past did it, but does Atlus has any precedent on it?
Did P3, P4, their spinoffs, Catherine and SMTs after P3 had english subs in Japan?
Just wait for the undub 3 months after release, or learn japanese and import it in September.
JP voice acting is trash tier, so I'm glad when it isn't an option.
>>341626359
>no game ever has the vocals on a volume track seperate from SFX and BGM
>no game ever has unvoiced characters in an RPG
Now who's retarded?
>>341626381
It's because contract negotiations. They'll have to pay both the Jap and English voice actors That's why they're considering it separate as paid DLC, so that it doesn't bump up the price of the base game..
>>341626161
Finally an intelligent post.
>>341620790
MGSV and Dark Souls are western style games.
That's why
>>341626508
>I'm incapable of processing emotional responses without audio cues
Pretty sure that's autism fampai.
>>341626691
Samefag.
>>341626646
>>no game ever has unvoiced characters in an RPG
Except i'm not playing an old game, it's 2016 and this is the biggest release ATLUS has had in the last 5 years.
>>341626682
I refused to play Kara No Shojo until they found a way to patch in the Japanese voices.
>>341626839
Finally an intelligent post.
My persona waifu is japanese. Fuck you atlus you pieces of shit I wont give you any of my shekels
>>341626904
Thanks
>>341620790
>High School Slice of Life Anime Simulator
>Wondering why the weebs are on the fence
Brain damage?
>>341625945
People found a new toy to bitch about.
>>341626851
Therefore it has to be fully voice acted? Just because the last ones were?
Would you fucks even be this up in arms if they didn't do voices at all and just pocketed all that money they'd save not hiring voice actors or localizing new vocal tracks?
>>341620110
Because morons think japanese voices are better when they cant understand the voices
>>341626161
I like the way JP audio sounds more.
Steam lets you download games in any language they've been released in. Can consoles not even do that much?
>>341626594
Hey, I've been legitimately diagnosed with ADD and even I don't have problems reading subtitles in games/movies/anime.
>>341627032
>Therefore it has to be fully voice acted? Just because the last ones were?
Because it's 2016 and this is the biggest release ATLUS has had in the last 5 years. And you might be retarded if you think voices are not needed, or autistic.
>Would you fucks even be this up in arms if they didn't do voices at all and just pocketed all that money they'd save not hiring voice actors or localizing new vocal tracks?
What ifs are irrelevant
I like Dual Audio because it actually motivates me to replay the game.
I replayed Persona 3 both with Jap and Eng Audio, same for all Tenchu Games. It gives you new found vigor to keep playing the game and see how different the acting is.
>>341627152
Some games do, but
>Atlus
>>341626508
A line that is written in one way can be voiced with a certain feeling to convey another meaning.
>>341620110
I honestly don't see the point of people who don't speak a certain language wanting to play a game in said language.
I mean I understand with anime or movies because most don't get translated so you just have to put up with the subtitles since there are no other options. It doesn't make sense though with a product that is translated and voiced over to listen in the language you don't understand. You might as well mute the whole game because you'll be reading the whole time.
>>341620790
The game has tons of dialog and literally the best jp voice cast ever.
>dual audio dlc
>It sells well
>atlus take advantage and sells jap audio for most games and makes a shit ton of money
>sells like shit
>"welp that failed, stop bothering us with dual audio now you autists"
Its win-win for them and a lose-lose for us
>>341627405
Persona 3 and 4 had better cast.
Also P5 doesn't have Miyuki Sawashiro so it's automatically worse.
>>341627248
>And you might be retarded if you think voices are not needed
Why? It's not a Sony "movie game", it's a fucking JRPG. What do vocal tracks contribute to the game that would be absent without them?
Are you that person who has to listen to audiobooks because they suck at reading?
>>341620790
>Why is no one upset that dark souls 3 doesn't have the original japanese voices?
Becaise dialogue in DS3 is no-existent
>Why is no one upset that MGS V doesn't have the original japanese voices?
https://youtu.be/fSv57Yls9_Q?t=16
>>341627559
>Why? It's not a Sony "movie game", it's a fucking JRPG. What do vocal tracks contribute to the game that would be absent without them?
Because of this >>341627273
>>341626508
>Are you that person who has to listen to audiobooks because they suck at reading?
>says the burger that wants some shitty dub because he can't bother to read subs or learn a new language
>>341627409
>atlus take advantage and sells jap audio for most games and makes a shit ton of money
>pirate the DLC
>"welp that failed, stop bothering us with dual audio now you autists"
>pirate the undub
it's not that hard
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>>341627497
Or Maaya Sakamoto
>>341627630
Holy shit, the JP voices for MGSV are bad.
>>341627497
Aoi Yuuki, Nana, and Sugita to name a few. Sawashiro would be nice, but this is as good as it gets.
I'm not against it, I'm indifferent to it. I'm just enjoying the subfag tears as they to rationalize their """"objective""" belief that ALL english dubs are shit.
![[T-N]Kamen_Rider_Ryuki_42[FA93AA1C]DVD.avi-2016-06-10-01h49m16s706.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YaDizS8.jpg "[T-N]Kamen_Rider_Ryuki_42[FA93AA1C]DVD.avi-2016-06-10-01h49m16s706.jpg")
>>341620435
>not liking obakachanatchi
>>341627708
>implying
I don't care if there's dual audio or not. I watch TV with the subtitles on literally all the time. I'm just trying to understand why you autists are so up in arms about something so trivial. They could literally make the game without the voices and nothing would change except now you are forced to read for context and give the script emotional nuance yourself.
So once more, ya just a lazy fuck who can't into reading comprehension? Or are all of you just bitching to be bitching about it?
>why you want japanese voice you dont even speak japanese!
Most people here have watched anime and have been into japanese culture for years. Im pretty sure they know fucking know about seiyuus and voice acting in Japan.
If the dub actually was quality voice work, I wouldn't be upset.
Too bad, it never fucking is.
>>341620790
Because the other two are western settings/themed you retard.
>>341622596
>Japan is for weebs, the west isn't.
Weebs didn't spawn from inside Japan, they spawned from outside of it. America is the most populated place on the planet where weebs exist
>>341626613
> undub 3 months after release
Undub literally take less than 5 hours to do. Stupid ignorant dubfag.
>>341628106
Not all English dubs are shit, but all English weebshit dubs are shit.
>>341628079
>Akio otsuka
>Bad
Go to sleep
>it's an "I play video games for the voice acting" episode
>>341628106
>anime dubs
>ever good
Ennglish is not my first language. When I'm choosing an audio track between two foreign languages, of course I'll pick the original.
>>341628430
>go to sleep
That only works when it's night, anon.
>>341628565
Its fucking persona where dialogue are 50% of the game if not more.
>if you think the Jap voices are superior, you're a weeaboo!
No we're just people who can recognize simple facts about the industries. Do you ever see any of us defending Japanese live acting over Hollywood? No of couse not. Hollywood is far bigger, and thus has more talent, more competition, and as a result a much higher talent ceiling.
Likewise the Japanese voice acting industry is far bigger than the Western voice acting industry. They have 50 domestically produced cartoons to voice over every 3 months. Of course their industry is bigger. On the other hand the West is increasingly moving away from animated media. The few big names that still produce animated films don't even bother with Western voice acting "talent". They just use Hollywood actors. Because Western voice actors are bottom of the barrel trash who couldn't get a real acting job and have to settle for dubbing foreign games and cartoons.
>>341628810
Reminder that social links have voice acting now too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95cJSZ7KJAs
>>341620110
no one is against dual audio unless they are retarded. Thats like being against more dialogue options.
Generally speaking, more options is almost always good. I dont even ever use the japanese voice over, but its always better to have the option. Because its always the games with the worst fucking english audio that never have dual audio.
>>341628810
What's your point? You actually are playing it for the voice acting? You're too autistic to enjoy the game if the voice acting isn't exactly the way you think it should be?
>>341620465
filthy weeaboo
>>341622520
>talking shit about based Crispin Freeman
>>341620790
Solid bait
Good job
>wanting the characters that are based in japan to speak the native language is weeb
>wanting the characters to speak english but pretend to be japanese like wapanese autists saying -chan -san -kun and shit isn't weeb as fuck
Que???
>>341628963
Eh, that's not quite the whole story. It's definitely possible that there are a lot of different styles of Japanese voice acting, but to the untrained ear they all sound pretty similar, and the trained ear either belongs to a Japanese person or a weeaboo.
There's also the fact that Japanese voices don't sound remotely similar to American voices. Yes, this is obvious, but it means that the characters sound weird and have voices that don't fit. There are also casting decisions based off of cultural differences; a Japanese person (or weeaboo) might not see anything strange about casting a woman to voice an adult man, but your average Westerner would find them incongruous.
>>341629202
Not that anon, but why are you pushing everything to its extremes? I'm not playing it for the voice acting, it would be enjoyable regardless, but good voice acting would make it even more enjoyable.
>>341620110
Alright you fags, heres the deal.
This is a major blow, this does suck ass on all fronts. Massive delay, no dual audio, our CE isnt as good.
But you know what? Crying on 4chan isn't going to do anyone any good. We have to start message bombing Sega, their parent company, and get them to take control of the situation and actually fix one, or more, of the three current issues plaguing the game as of now. Meaning we'll either get the original 2016 release, dual audio, or the better CE, or with some unholy luck, all 3.
START MESSAGING SEGA AMERICA, TWITTERS, EMAILS, LETTERS EVEN. I've already sent 4 emails to them. Its stupid but theres a 1% chance it'll work out for the best in the end. DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF CRYING FUCKERS
>why do you care if a game doesn't has its original language voices, i don't get it!
I bet you faggots watch french movies dubbed in english
I'll always pick any sort of media, not just videogames, with the original audio because that's the voice the characters are meant to have
A dub always has the potential to ruin a character's personality and intentions
I don't know why dubfags like getting a fake experience. If I could read Japanese I'd also just import the games because translations can fuck up the characters and story just as much as dubs can
>>341629563
SEGA doesn't give a shit, they made it clear they're leaving Atlus more or less completely independent. If you want to complain to someone, complain to Atlus USA directly. Preferably through email so there's no John Hardin in the way.
>>341629556
>why are you pushing it to the extreme
Because there are people here who have been masturbating to this game's release for years now who are literally boycotting because MUH VOICE ACTING. I'm not pushing anything, I'm trying to make fucking sense of this response.
>>341629595
Nah, I watch those with subtitles. Dubbing is great for games and anime, but it doesn't work very well for live action.
Stores will not have the version of the game we want. But torrents will.
Guess what's gonna happen.
>>341620110
Shitposting
>>341628079
Ocelot sounds so cute though
>>341620110
Because it takes up a shitton of space on a disc. That space should be used for content or better mechanics.
Enjoy your Final Fantasy 12 audio quality you stupid faggot.This doesn't apply to PC.
>>341620110
>neo-/v/ getting this triggered over honorifics
where the fuck were you newfaggots 8 years ago when P3/4 was doing the same shit and NO ONE bitched about it?
>>341629960
Dubbing is never great for anything
>>341624564
>English dub has no feeling
>the Japanese one is so much better, even though I can't understand 99% of it
brb, I'm going to go ask a homeless hobo for medical advice since he knows as much about medicine as you do about linguistics
>>341629525
That's the irony, kids that have joined anime clubs and run around pretending they're naruto are calling other people weebs
>>341629202
Its one of the many point why I play persona yes.
Are you one of those ''ONLY GAMEPLAY MATTER FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE LOL XD ONLY GAMEPLAY MATTER''
You should not Persona in the first if all you care about is gameplay.
>>341630195
lel
Personally, I rather like having the option of dual audio, having more in that case as opposed to less is always a plus in my book.
But at the same time, I don't think I'll find myself really listening to the JP voices on Persona 5 that often, if at all. I mean, looking back at Persona 3 and 4, it had a really good cast that really got into the roles. There were some fishy voices sure, but overall...I dunno, I got a kick out of some of the lines said by some of the voice actors in both of the games. A sastifaction I wouldn't really get from JP animu type voices sometimes, easier to relate to I guess.
Like hearing Morooka say I was on his shit list in that gravely annoying teachers voice was sastifying in a weird way. Or Yuri Lowenthal's and Troy Baker's (And his replacements complete twin of a soundalike) performance were really great and probably enjoyed more than most Japanese voices.
I dunno, this is weird, I know /v/'s not a hive mind or anything, but I didn't think so many of you hated the English casts that much. I thought a more general consensus was thag Persona's dub was actually worth listening to in most cases and made fun of those that went through the trouble of undubbing them
>>341630356
>I play RPGs for the voice acting
Ahhh Sonybros. Pack it up people, it's getting a little bit too cinematic in here
>>341630230
It's not about understanding what they're saying, it's about the tone and the enthusiasm put behind the voice acting
To me, most English voice actors always sound monotone, like they have no interest in what they're doing. Soulless
>>341630096
>and NO ONE bitched about it?
>what are P3 and P4 un-dubs
Just because you're an underage faggot doesn't mean everyone else is and wasn't talking about it
>>341630427
The replacement of voices has degraded he general opinion on 4's dub.
>>341620110
because listening to a bunch of white boys and girls act japanese is sad and retarded.
Where the fuck did all these poser weebs come from?
Learn Japanese or shut the fuck up.
