>10 million dollars
>8 years of waiting
And this is the result?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAL07Pbqx3c
Is the demo out?
>>341602508
omg it looks so slow. More like Symphony than the lightning fast Aria.
>the tits on the boss
worth every cent
>>341602682
It's just that the character model is smaller considering the size of the whole frame. I would say it's maybe faster than those two.
I'm sorry, but compared to the other Castlevanias made by IGA, this looks like shit. Colors are way too washed out.
>>341602635
Don't think so. The demo is what they were showing off at E3. The fans are going to get the Demo soon.
looks like a game that could only appeal to weebshitters
>>341602975
>That creepy but still vivid and beautiful looking ship
>That shit ship that looks like something out of a generic indie game on Steam
Why, Iga? Why?
>>341602975
Keep in mind that emulator shots are not accurate. The Gameboy and NDS screens are kinda shitty. So the games over saturated the games a bit.
>>341603054
I don't like the designs at all. The boss design is terrible. Miriam is overdesigned anime chick.
Why couldn't they have gotten Order of Eccelssia's artist?
>>341603216
3D costs a LOT more. It makes everything more complicated. Unless you have AAA budgets, you can't do good 3D.
3D was a mistake.
>>341602508
>MP regenrates slooooowly over time
Literally bad design for a singleplayer game where you can progress at your own pace. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>341603449
They do that in all the other Metroidvanias as well. I rather dislike it.
Here check out this vid, best showcase of the game so far imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYG4heJ2Ojw
with romscout (castlevania speedrunner) and IGA himself.
>>341603243
Because God hate us and probably money and contract with Konami.
>>341603243
>Why couldn't they have gotten Order of Eccelssia's artist?
Dude's probably busy as fuck. He did the Kid Icarus Uprising art too.
>>341603537
Game looks faster in that vid. Why is it slower in the others?
>>341603334
But 3D supposedly costs less according to them, that's why they went with it.
>>341603790
For me it depends on who is playing it. This guy seems to know whats up:
https://youtu.be/P5CuDs87MkQ
>>341603994
3D is cheaper, but looks way worse. To make 3D that looks as good as 3D costs a lot of time and money.
2D is the sweet spot. but doing it in HD is something I've never seen anyone do right. All the HD 2D games look very flat, with simple cartoony art styles. Have a kind of flash look to them.
Pokesoul system returns.
>the color theme revolves around purple
God I hate purple.
>>341604151
>backdashing speedrunner style
>hitting the walls
When is this game releasing?
>>341603537
>Got speed autists approval
will hopefully be good
>>341604538
More like gray
>>341604753
>trusting e-celebs
They get bought off to shill the game.
>>341604921
Miriam, the menus, lights, enemies, bosses have a purple theme. It's pretty ugly. Then on top of that the backgrounds are grey.
It needs less purple, stronger other colors.
post yfw you didn't back Bloodstained
>>341605005
>speed runners
>e-celebs
lol wut
>>341605249
>>341605249
>>341603243
DSi screen looks exactly like the pic on the left, you're thinking of original NDS and DS Lite.
DSi had new better screens with richer color palette.
Where the fuck is my demo fedoraman?
You said I would get a demo.
>>341604163
Look at Duck Tales Remastered, Shantae, Vanillaware games, Rayman Origins/Legends and tell me they're bad looking HD 2D games.
Go on faggot, tell me how objectively wrong you are.
>>341606335
>Duck Tales Remastered, Shantae, Vanillaware games
Not him but they all have funky tween-looking animations to make up for their "HD quality"which I just don't like personally.
Rayman is legit though.
>>341606335
>Look at Duck Tales Remastered, Shantae, Vanillaware games, Rayman Origins/Legends and tell me they're bad looking HD 2D games.
Exactly what I mean by the overly flat lacking detail look. And they all kinda look the same. There's a lack of variety.
>>341602508
No matter how hard you try, your MN9 was a failure. But keep trying to deflect the damage.
Poor kid.
>>341606520
Not the anon you're answering to but I respectfully disagree. Vanillaware and the Rayman games look excellent.
>>341606504
>>341606520
Thanks for proving how objectively wrong you faggots are, go suck more IGA cock.
>>341602508
The backgrounds look like hit, yeah. But it seems like the gameplay is the ame as SotN except with a cutie. There's literally no reason to complain.
How the fuck does this look bad to any of you.
The worst looking thing in the demo was the boss. Everything else looked good.
>10 million dollars
5.5 million dollars not counting paypal. I don't even know how much is in that.
>8 years of waiting
It has been like little over a year since they started and it comes out next year.
Yall mother fuckers are looking for another MN9 because that game will finally come out soon and you will have nothing to shit on.
Looking for flaws when there isn't anything significant to point out.I didn't back the kickstarter. Yall just being faggots
>>341606520
>overly flat lacking detail look
>>341606912
I think OP is memeing, there's some other dude who's genuinely been posting nearly the same exact thread trying to tortanic bloodstained.
>>341606971
God damn, are these games all on Steam?
>>341606520
>There's a lack of variety.
I think you may actually be retarded.
>>341606912
>5.5 million dollars not counting paypal. I don't even know how much is in that.
5.5 +4.5 from publisher.
This is a 10 million dollar game.
Reminder that Rondo and Symphony look better and cost a fraction of that.
>>341606520
Vanillaware games are full of detail and their style would be great for a Castlevania/gothic themed setting like this. Ducktales and Shantae are more cartoony but that's what they're supposed to be.
>>341607070
Yes. Origins is there, but it's DRM free. Legends has uPlay.
![o5tTb45EVJQUWwx3m56Yja-650-80[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ztk4pyp.png "o5tTb45EVJQUWwx3m56Yja-650-80[1].png")
>>341607086
Look at these games in just thumbnails. They ALL look the same.
>>341607173
>Vanillaware games are full of detail and their style would be great for a Castlevania/gothic themed setting like this.
At a cost of far fewer enemies, and far fewer animations. It's highly detailed still art that barely moves.
>>341606971
this is legitimately and unironically one of the best looking games ever
quite possibly THE best looking modern 2d game
>>341606912
>Can't think anything looks bad now without some retard thinking you're looking for a ship to sink.
Speaking of sunken ships, see: >>341602975
Order of Ecclesia's sunken ship VS Bloodstained's ghost ship. OoE looks much better.
>>341607238
>At a cost of far fewer enemies, and far fewer animations. It's highly detailed still art that barely moves.
A lot of people don't seem to mind this but to me, coming from playing great games with tons of variety like SoTN, they do get stale and it doesn't help that Vanillaware games(like Wayforward games) are pretty fucking mediocre in general.
>>341602508
Looks like generic RPGMaker game.
>>341607391
I don't know it's probably matched with Vanillaware stuff.
I really want Vanillaware to beat rayman with their new game.
>>341607391
I'm a staunch critic for modern 'hd sprite' based games and even I agree. I don't even like rayman/the characters from that universe but those last few rayman games blow my mind how beautiful they are.
Can I play as the cute viking girl only in these games?
>>341607391
It is nice looking, but I really don't care for the art style. I want a game that aims for some kind of naturalism, like castlevania games. Every 2D game is cartoony now.
>>341607602
They never will since Vanillaware always have terrible animations. Rayman Origins/Legends has great animation.
ANY TORRENT IS THE DEMO out?
>>341607641
Yeah. Recolors, too.
>>341607821
Vanilla just needs more money.
Rayman has infinite ubisoft bucks, Vanilla has nothing
>>341602508
Dude are you sure it wasn't like 100 billion dollars and 6 centuries of waiting?
You need to update your meems.
>>341607913
Oh my fug. Getting this game now.
>>341607238
Not joking here, I think you need to see an optometrist .
>>341607450
OoE ship looks like a untouched unweathered basically A unsunken ship with a hole in it.
All of it's fucking cargo and flooring is immaculate.
That's bullshit. Looks nice for pixels but bullshit none the less.
Bloodstained's ship actually looks like it should. Broken and rotting.
Still looking to sink it. Still nothing for you to actually point out.
>>341607881
no
they said that they will put out a backer update before the demo is sent out
>>341602508
I would care if they didn't pander to the sweaty man child demographic with a girly girl doing a wimpy pose. Fuck that shit. Castlevania Order of Ecclesia didn't need it.
Ah who the fuck cares, the game is doomed anyway.
>>341603334
>3D costs a LOT more.
Are you from 1993?
>>341609145
Sd 2D is super cheap. Easy to get the engine running. Simple pixel art.
>>341608125
Your defense is that it should look bad and you're shitting on the actual beautiful Castlevanias that were made to try to make your shitty point. Fuck off.
>>341602508
mfw when u can literally reproduce that exact gameplay in less than 5 months with any random small group of competent indie devs
I'm really not digging the look on this game.
Will see how it plays.
Why does it look so floaty
>>341609472
With 2D you need to create most assets by hand unless you want your game to look like shit. With 3D you just create meshes and animate them, which is way easier.
Getting nice 2D lighting is hard and requires a lot of work and talent. Nice 3D lighting is something you can buy and turn on.
>>341609708
because symphony of the night was floaty
>>341609128
The primary power-acquiring mechanic of OoE involved the girl flaunting her bare back to the audience.
Don't kid yourself about pandering.
>>341609619
>competent indie devs
That shit exists?
>>341609858
>implying /v/ is old enough to have played SOTN
>>341609723
>With 2D you need to create most assets by hand unless you want your game to look like shit. With 3D you just create meshes and animate them, which is way easier.
TOTAL LIE. You still have to make everything and animate it. It takes more time.
>>341609954
My god! Her BACK?
How did it ever get past censorship?
>you can change scarfs
finally the best part of SOTN
>>341609619
So why haven't you?
>2016
>armor still is invisible
>>341609976
Of course not Todd, sorry, now go back to add some shaders and tweaks to gamebryo and call it a new engine please.
>>341602508
Yes this is the result.
Anything else you wanna know?
>>341610290
But will it have INTERIOR DECORATING?
>>341610480
Because Im not a developer, thats why.
>>341609556
My defense is that a Broken sunken ship looks like Guess what. A broken sunken ship. Like it is supposed to. And not even a terribly made one.
OoE's ship looks like a immaculate work or art that apparently suffered no damage outside of a hole in it's front and has been barraged by sea water and time.
It's bullshit for thinking that looks like it should.
Bloodstained ship looks like it should. It is a broken shit with rotting wood and is still in the process of breaking down. Looks correct and looks right and it doesn't look like trash even though it is a broken ship.
You are saying the game looks bad because the ship looks like it is supposed to.
>>341605249
That moment around - minutes when the monster crashes from the background, it looks so jarring the contrast between the bright, vibrant colors of the monster, and the low key colors of the stage...
Overall, I'm liking what's being shown of the game proper. The look though really isn't grabbing me.
>>341611160
That was the boss and that is the only terrible thing I has seen of this game so far.
>>341611084
Why should it "look like it should" though? Who cares about realism when everything else is all about style?
>>341611160
I know what you mean abou the colors.
SotN has such a nice color palette. Very darker realistic tones. That monster in BS is some garish purple monstrosity of a design.
>>341611084
Nobody gives a shit about realism in a Castlevania game. People want highly stylized, atmospheric settings. Not boring, realistic environments.
9 minutes. Cinematic blah.... oh well...
>>341611430
Realism gives grounding to the sylization though. Symphony is just real gothic, early modern and victorian styles.
>>341605249
>>341611084
Fuck realism, it can look realistic, but it should look good and beautiful as well. That's far more important on a 2D game.
>>341611084
>You are saying the game looks bad because the ship looks like it is supposed to.
The ship is supposed to look good above all else. Realism is secondary. Excusing it looking like ship by saying that a real ghost ship would look like that is fucking retarded.
>>341611664
Looking at the boss fight right, can't say I agree.
The boss itself in a stage just as highly stylized would work .But here the contrast with the stage makes it not so.
Here the realism doesn't ground anything, quite the contrary it clashes with the style.
MN9 is Tortanic all over again.
>>341612065
>>341611354
>>341611430
In short. The game is going about a stylistic choice you don't really care for and you are being bitter cunts about it.
Game isn't actually bad in any actual definable way and all you can do is bitch about is "I don't like how it looks visually"
This isn't another MN9 or TORtanic. Fucking get over your hate boners and move the fuck on with your lives.
>>341612172
When did I say Ghost ship?
>>341605249
I didn't, I don't throw money to kickstarter
Will wait and pirate because it looks good, fuck I'm hyped
Am I supposed to dislike this?
If I say I actually enjoy a video game, will I get kicked out of /v/?
>>341612196
That boss fight is the biggest and personally only gripe people should have with the game so far.
The enemy is so jarring to look at. like it is from an entirely different game.
>>341612372
The fuck do you mean the game isn't actually bad in any actual definable way? How is "Visuals" not a definable trait? You mean we only have subjective qualms with the game and not objective ones? Welcome to video game opinions, you god damn retard, you're in /v/, maybe you're new here, but we have been commenting on how games look and play to us well before the fucking second Star Wars MMO came out.
>>341612372
STOP SHARING YOUR OPINION ON HOW THE GAME LOOKS, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT IF YOU THINK IT LOOKS GOOD
>>341612372
Given that I've said the game itself looks good, just get off your high horse.
That I don't like the overall washed out color scheme is secondary. That clash in style though, I think is pretty jarring. They're going to have to harmonize things one way or the other. I'd prefer all stylized myself, but I'm not going to let a preference in artistic direction get in the way of a good game.
>>341602508
Looks pretty boring. Most of the Symphony-style games were a bit boring--Aria being the exception--but not like this.
Boss has some floppy tits. That'll placate some.
>>341612971
"visuals" is subjective.
I don't like how Journey looks but everyone jizzed their pants over it. I like Cel shading most of the time but most people think it looks like trash.
If something has a good style to you than that is entirely your opinion. The gameplay of the game which is one of the few things you should be actually caring about is solid and the only thing about visuals you should be bitching about is if something seems off from the established style. Like the god damn boss of that demo.
>>341602508
what is the problem? I really enjoyed what I see.
>>341613415
Everything is subjective. You're on a video game image board where 99.9% of what we say is subjective. Sorry to blow your mind there.
The enemies seem kind of sparse, but it's also pre-alpha and just the intro stage. The beginning part of SOTN also didn't have many monsters.
Hopefully they'll release backer codes for the demo this week. Can't wait to play it.
TORRENT OF THE DEMO WHEN
>Ugly graphics
>Slow gameplay
>This fuckin 15 second loop of disgusting music
Someone will spend money on that?
>>341602508
Too bad the female protagonist looks like overdesigned trash compared to Shanoa
>>341615803
I know I will.
>>341616079
But, why?
>>341615803
spent $400 :^)
>>341616186
Point me to decent alternatives, and then we'll talk.
>>341615803
Graphics look good
Gameplay is not supposed to be "fast", it's fucking Castlevania.
The music from the video is not 15 seconds nor is it from the stage he's playing.
>>341616386
Dragon's Dogma, new Zelda
duh
>>341617094
Those are not metroidvanias, or even attempting to be
>>341602508
Animations are amatuerish
Camera is stiff
The colorful characters/enemies do not mesh with the dull, washed-out backgrounds
Fix these and the game will be several times better.
>>341617350
Skyrim, COD, Madden
fucking autist ugh
>>341603537
Artist tumblr or anything?
>>341617368
>Stiff
This is the only thing I agree with you on. The animations look a little too rigid for my liking, and I suppose the camera could be a little more dynamic, I suppose. Though really, I don't remember a Castlevania game that they weren't.
>>341602508
This unironically looks flash game tier its so slow
>>341602508
Wow this looks way better than I expected
Looks like it uses the exact physics and movement of SotN which is great
