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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-15-the-last-guardian-the-first-40-minutes
>The Last Guardian feels like a remaster of an old PS3 game
>despite The Last Guardian looking like Sony has papered over the cracks of a last-gen game, it struggles
>The controls are fiddly and unresponsive
>the camera is a constant thorn in your side
>There are worrying technical issues, too. I noticed the demo struggle in the framerate department
>here were more than a few moments where Trico - or a part of Trico - clipped through a wall of a rock or some other piece of the game world
it's not fucking fair bros
I actually expected this game to be good, fuck me
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Oh so it's like DarkSouls?
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He complains the climbing isn't like Uncharted. Opinion discarded
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>>341587349
This looks shitty 2bh
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They could have made a more complete version of SotC and it would sell more. This looks more ICO than Shadow.
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>>341588332
>This looks more ICO than Shadow.
What is the problem here?
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I've been worried about if this game would be any good or not for the longest time. I held out for so long that I basically gave up hope for it and could easily see it failing to live up to the expectations I once had for it. Not that we're that far removed from last generation but we are sure as hell removed from the time this game was originally supposed to be released.
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>>341588598
I beat it but the combat is tedious and puzzles were just puzzles. Doesn't everyone like Shadow a lot more?
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>>341587349
>The controls are fiddly and unresponsive
>the camera is a constant thorn in your side
>here were more than a few moments where Trico - or a part of Trico - clipped through a wall of a rock or some other piece of the game world
I'm not defending it, but the old Team Ico games were like that too, most video game bloggers wouldn't point that out because it's a 11/10 perfect masterpiece for them.
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nice clickbait
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>>341588598

So much of the game is a tedious escort mission. After having played Shadow and going back to play ICO after I just couldn't be bothered to finish it.
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>>341587349
>>The controls are fiddly and unresponsive
>>the camera is a constant thorn in your side
>>There are worrying technical issues, too. I noticed the demo struggle in the framerate department
>>here were more than a few moments where Trico - or a part of Trico - clipped through a wall of a rock or some other piece of the game world

so..just like SotC?
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Honestly it's impossible for the game to live up to the hype it's amassed. People have been waiting for it so long that nothing would feel worth the wait. And considering Team ICO's history, it'll be a clunky artsy minimalistic game with very basic gameplay.
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>a game in development for way too long is shit
huh, who would have guessed.
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Games that take ages to develop are always shit. See Duke Nukem Forever and Colonial Marines.
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>>341588332
ICO is a product of it's time. They should have continued the non-formula of trying something more ambitious and being the best at it like they have done so far.
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>>341589315
What about Liru's game?
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>>341589368
liru is shit too.
That full model is awful.
scenes weren't terrible though.
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>>341588598
People like fighting things more than exploring because it's more gratifying and "cool."

No, seriously. Most people just inherently prefer attacking big monsters to exploring a giant castle.
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This is one of the reasons I bought a ps3

fuck sony
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>>341589208
It's going to be hilarious watching them stumble around trying to find a general consensus on this.
Modern reviewers just rely on past definitions on what it meant to be a timeless masterpiece, and when it's up to them to decide we get BioShock Infinite and Gone Home.
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>>341589208
>Persona 5
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>>341589646
I hope you enjoy the subs anon
oh wait
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>>341587349
Duke Nukem Forever
Liru game
Mighty No.9
Final Fantasy XV
and now The Last Guardian

Are there any games that have come out the other side of development hell and NOT turned out to be shit? Its like a fucking impossibility.
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>>341589451
A giant castle with nothing in it.
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>Sonyponies resting all their future hopes and dreams on a technical mess with the most cliche "seen from a mile away" plot device known in storytelling history.

Seriously, the game is going to smash you in the fucking face with the "EVERYONE HATES YOUR FEATHERY FUCKING FRIEND BECAUSE IT'S A 'MONSTER' AND THEY'LL TRY TO KILL IT AND IT'LL BE LOYAL AND DIE AT THE END AND YOU'LL FUCKING CRY BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO UNLESS YOU'RE NOT HUMAN" and you plebs will lap it up and give it 10/10's.
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>But in a post-Uncharted world, in a world where there is an expectation that climbing and moving about in third-person should feel fluid and responsive, The Last Guardian's controls just annoy

Do people actually like the platforming in Uncharted? I can understand enjoying the cinematic setpieces even if that's not fun for me, but the climbing is so simplistic it practically plays itself. There's no freedom or room for skill, it's pointless.
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>>341589787
Yeah, see? Exactly.
There's no challenging battle to be had, so exploring this castle is a bad thing to most gamers.
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>>341589772
Do you count The Stick of Truth? It wasn't the best game ever, but it was pretty good.
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>>341589838
It's just a way to move around the game, it's not a platformer. You shoot things while things get shot at you, that's the hard part. Climbing while shooting is neat but more used in MP than SP.
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>>341589838
It's improved a bit in 4, the first 3 are pretty much follow the yellow lines
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>>341587349
>I actually expected this game to be good

lmao senpai

suck a semen sample
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>>341589986
Are you really suggesting exploring a castle while dragging some autistic girl around is fun? I liked the atmosphere and platforming when alone but she really dragged down my fun.
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>>341589208
It's a game that should've come out 8 years ago.
If it did it would've been pretty impressive and cool but it's pretty clear that this game has been sitting in hell the whole time with no solid work being done and they're just trying to shove it out the door and sell on hype before people realize the game is actually shit.
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>>341589838
Yes people love these games.

It makes you feel good.
They also love modern cutscenes of walking and talking.
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>>341587659
this get ready for it being best game ever
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>>341590218
Walking and talking is shit and Half-Life started it. Or Gears. I'm sure even Uncharted fans would agree.
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>>341590335
I was so sad to see it in god of fucking war.

Genuinely prefer old time cutscenes. At least those I can skip on consequent playthroughs.
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>>341590136
I'm suggesting that most people wouldn't find that fun because of what we find gratifying about games.

You say there's "nothing" in the castle, but it's incredibly well designed and full of puzzles and smatterings of mobs. Meanwhile SotC's overworld is a vast expanse of fucking nothing and the game is just 16 boss fights, but that's spectacular.

The challenge of approaching a singular enemy, especially a large one that makes you feel like an underdog, is more gratifying than fighting multiple enemies. Puzzles are not seen by most people as being as fun as big monsters, and people tend to not find objectives relating to protecting things fun.

Personally, I adore ICO, it's a lot of fun, but to most people it would just be shit because it's all those things they don't like about games.
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>>341590218
I think it's fine in games like NieR, where gameplay continues but the party just chats.
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>>341590136
>Are you really suggesting exploring a castle while dragging some autistic girl around is fun?
It's one of the only good escort missions in video game history.
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>>341588332
Good. ICO was better than SotC
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Based eurogamer lowering expectations so people will actually enjoy the game and not expect a masterpiece
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So it's a typical Team Ico game then?
Good to know.
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>>341590842
That is not the same thing.

With "modern cutscene" I specifically mean those sections were you only have to use the control stick and the main focus is on the conversation.
Gameplay with someone talking to you or voice recordings is fine.
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>>341590948
Ya know what's better than an escort mission?

Not an escort mission.
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>>341589993
Yeah but it was just a good south Park game. If you don't like south Park then you probably wouldn't like the game.
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>>341587349
Good i hope the game is rough around the edges and not streamlined
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>>341587349
Downgrade:
Trico's feathers are more numbered now but smaller, I think it looks a lot worse.
Fog and color grading was changed drastically. Environments look fullbright now most of the time or just bad.
They added more bloom to the game and it's not the good kind.
Less particle effects(dust and dirt for example).

Here's smoke being downgraded and you can clearly see the lighting is completely downgraded as he climbs up the tail. Basically 10x less shadowing now.
https://youtu.be/0i0TV5r0CSc?t=193
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=310

Trico doesn't even cast shadows on his own body anymore and there shadows on the temple barely exist.
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=106
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=69

Unlit braziers so no smoke, shitty environment lighting again(look inside the building, HDR is fucking gone), and Trico still has no self-shadows.
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs?t=374
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=94

As always, the lighting and shadows are less striking.
https://youtu.be/JG854AzOHqw?t=66
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs?t=18

This is a disgrace, after nearly 10 years of Sony talking about this game it's finally a reality but it doesn't look any better than what we saw back then, it looks worse. The downgrading is real.

The game looks almost identical to how it was before but without fog and shadows mainly.

Official Trailers:
https://youtu.be/0i0TV5r0CSc
https://youtu.be/bbhwNI8LiWs
https://youtu.be/zXLZvsSmBIs
https://youtu.be/fL2zzgW6YOo
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>>341591256
Depends. They can work well.
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>people have been waiting 8 years to play a crappy escort mission
I don't get it really.
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>>341591537
>caring about graphics in a Team Ico game
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>>341591537

Fucking astounding how inept Team Ico is technically. They should just become some design/art advisors to an actual game development team.
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>>341587659
kys
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This looks terrible. Of course Sony is just cashing this shit in. They even have a 120$ collectors bundle for all the retards.
They got a really amateur dev team to finish this shit up within 8 months.

Don't be shocked when this turd bombs. This is almost as bad as Duke nukem forever. At least sony won't be using this as their emergency E3 PLAN.
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>>341591763
You have no idea what you are talking about.

I love how "technically expertise" for you means only graphics.
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>>341588936
Even neogaf is shitting on it.
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>>341591621
muh shadow of the colossus muh ico
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>>341591490
I don't think the game itself is that bad. It's definitely more simplified than most RPGs. I think it's the humor itself that would cause people to dislike it more than the mechanics. So, I guess I agree if you're not a fan of the show you wouldn't like it, but I don’t think it's the game itself.
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you're clinically braindead if you ever thought this game look good
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>>341591652
>caring about atmosphere and visual presentation in the king of "games are art!" games

Yeah who does that???

>>341591763
Sony is the one making the engine. They downgraded it.

>>341592068
And neither do you.
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>>341589772
final fantasy XV isn't shit you fucking moron
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>>341592465
>he doesn't know
A-Anon...
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>>341587349
>all technical issues
Who fucking cares? Ico and SotC weren't technical masterpieces. What I care about this game is if is going to live up to the expectations set by Ico and SotC and all I hear is exactly what I wanted to hear.
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>>341592563
know what? the game looks fucking great

fuck outta here with your tortanic shit
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>>341592409
Fucking Ico had feet standing on different heights on stairs and shit.

That only became standard a gen later.
People shat themselves over it with GTA 4 but.

The horse and how it plays in SotC is still better than red dead redemption.
All the shit Nintendo is trying to do now they have done in fucking ps2 era

Fuck you. You uninformed idiot. You are beyond retarded if you think Team ICO is technologically inept.

Kill yourself.
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this is what happens when fans demand a game that even the devs deemed not good enough to keep working on.
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Lmao this shit was going to sell like shit anyway
No one buys a ps4 for this.

They buy it for FIFA and cod.
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That article is what you get when an idiot thinks he's an expert:

>Creator Fumito Ueda has a penchant for dropping players into a mysterious environment and asking them to work things out. That's fine. It's experiential. And that approach here feels fresh in the face of so many modern day games and their often overbearing handholding. But in a post-Uncharted world, in a world where there is an expectation that climbing and moving about in third-person should feel fluid and responsive, The Last Guardian's controls just annoy.
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>>341592650
>Ico and SotC weren't technical masterpieces.
Yes they both were. Climbing, the animation blending, particle effects, bloom, depth of field, motion blur, physics, giant bosses, the horse, and the AI. Still to this day, those two games do a significant amount of things better than most games.

>>341592708
I said that because it was Sony's bad that this game is downgraded, calm the hell down lol. I know Team Ico is great, that's why I'm pissed the game was downgraded when it looked amazing before.
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>>341592797
Actually if the guy who thinks uncharted is a fucking milestone doesn't like it that makes me more hpyed.
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>>341592894
>I said that because it was Sony's bad that this game is downgraded
>Fucking astounding how inept Team Ico is technically.

Either you jumped into a reply chain you had nothing to do with and insulted me without a you literally can't read your own posts.

In both cases I think you are retarded.
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>People completly leaving out the part where he says he still liked what he saw

Uuuuh /v/babbies?
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>>341587659
instakill troll thread
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>>341593063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0fPHWfHw8

looks pretty fucking good
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>>341587349
Fuck, and i just preordered the good goy edition
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I wish this game just died or went into development after seeing E3 footage
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>>341593234
>That fucking AA and shitty IQ

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>341592982
That was a different person entirely. I'm a fan too.

You're mad as fuck and I was pointing out that you were being ignorant like an ass.
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>>341591537
every. fucking. thread
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>>341593354
So you think Team ICO is technically inept?
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>>341593234
https://youtu.be/KftPFPcu_K0?t=2h18m33s

It's shit.
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>>341593409
I didn't post it last thread because it died so fast. Without discussion, thread dies. I bring discussion.

Thank me later.

>>341593434
No. Sony is.
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>>341587349
>here were more than a few moments where Trico - or a part of Trico - clipped through a wall of a rock or some other piece of the game world
oh who fucking cares? And who didn't expect this?

I don't think the game will live up to hype either, but that's nitpicking.
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>>341593568
>No. Sony is.
So why the fuck can't I call the idiot who said they were inept an idiot?
Why the fuck are you defending it?
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>>341592409
>the king of "games are art!" games
good goy, you learned the advertising really good
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Meh, I'm still kinda glad it's coming out.

Last Guardian and BotW were the best things from E3. Kinda disappointing when you think about it because neither were surprises.
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>>341592650
>Ico and SotC weren't technical masterpieces
Jesus christ, brand fanaticism is fucking brain poison.
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>>341589646
What about it? It's shit just like all Persona games are, yeah we know.
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>>341593454
When i use the free camera on the witcher 3 to get long distance shoots of the city the texturew and water also turn to shit also on pc this is nothing new
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HAHAHAHHAHAA

MAKES MY DAY WHEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS TO SONY FANS
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>>341593648
Holy shit fanboy, you're retarded.

Okay look.

I posted downgrade, he said Team Ico was inept, you got mad. I replied to him telling him it was SONY that fucked it up and I called you out for claiming you knew what you were talking about.

Team Ico literally are the design advisors for the game while Sony manages the engine.

>>341593662
Games are art.

>>341593695
BotW was a huge surprise, that game literally looks fucking amazing. Nobody expect anything new they showed.
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>>341593873
It's like that from close up though and both demos have shit textures too. That isn't entirely LOD, the game is just ugly.
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>>341593234
Excuse me sir, but I do believe that looks like a boring turd of a game with a poorly designed boss fight.
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>>341593454
>muh scenes didnt make sense they put it all into the movie
Retards haven't been following the interviews. There is a chapter zero with a fight scene they didn't play.

>Framerate and crashing
They played another rushed demo like Platinum.

>Empty world
They literally just started the game.

>Bad combat
Literally admits to being lazy and not learning how to pull of the more complex moves. In other words a press x to win shitter getting wrecked.
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>>341587349
jesus I bought a PS3 for this game and GT5 in 2007...

good thing I grew out of video games in the meantime
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>>341593896
>and I called you out for claiming you knew what you were talking about.
Okay what do I not know about.
What makes you think i was defending the downgrade.
What makes ICO and SotC technically inept.
What information do I not have to know that the guy calling team fucking ICO technically inept was an idiot.

Holy shit the way you spam the same posts every thread and the way you feel like you have to reply to literally everyone makes me think you are a tripfag.

How long until you adopt a trip and I can filter you?
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>>341593995
>defending a game he hasn't played
>from people who have for hours
xv-kun is that u?
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>>341593896
>BotW was a huge surprise, that game literally looks fucking amazing
>the guy spamming TLG shit in every thread actually is a nintoddler

Okay who called it?
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>>341593995
go shill your shit game in its own thread retard
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>>341594102
You're a really good troll. I applaud you.

>>341594192
I like games where you can climb, what can I say? I plan on emulating it if that makes you feel better, I haven't bought a Nintendo thing since the 90s.
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>>341587349
>shit framerate
>retarded camera
>shit controls

So it literally is the Shadow of the Colossus of this generation
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>>341587349
This game's gonna get shit on, no matter what, mainly because it took almost a decade to come out.

Look what happened to Duke Nukem Forever. It wasn't amazing, Gearbox is a shady as fuck developer, but it didn't deserve such low review score either.
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>>341589208
Honestly I just want Ueda to finally be able to move on from this. He's got a (fairly) new studio, I want to see something from them that's not them shitting this game out
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>>341593454
>Bosman's reaction

kek
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>>341594278
>You're a really good troll. I applaud you.
Literally nothing I posted was a troll in any way.

Seriously what the fuck is your problem. Its like you think I have earn the right to call the guy an idiot and have to spam the same videos in every thread before I can call someone stupid who calls Team ICO technically inept.

I genuinely don't even see where you disagree with me. You are just the worst kind of poster.
Leave.
You are cancer.
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>>341589772
Half-life 1 was completely remade from the ground up.

Starcraft 1 was delayed for being a shitty warcraft 2 clone.

Zelda U looks really good despite delays.
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>>341594409
this desu
I love ICO and SotC but this entire aesthetic and even the genre is played out especially by now with all this indie shit
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>>341588332
>after all these fucking years, get a classic adventure game that harkens back to the golden era of gaming
>SO BORING IT'S GONNA SELL LIKE SHIT
kys my man. This is exactly the game I was looking forward to.
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>>341594502
There's no way you can fake this retardation so really, I'm impressed.

>>341594692
It's not a classic adventure game, Ico and Trico are top tier escort quests.
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>>341589772
Half Life 2
STALKER
Team Fortress 2
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I think it will be a decent game, but just look at what's happened since 2009 when this game was shown.

Just how many indie "feels" games are there now? Shitloads, now even if we all agreed none of them were as good as SotC/Ico, that still changes people's perspective and shit.
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>>341587349
Literally the same issues of SotC

Still turned out to be a great game, but its a shame they didn't iron that out given the super long development time
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>>341587349
This is bound to happen when you give the spotlight for 10+ years to a small developer who is known for designing simplistic games, People will grow unrealistc expectations on the product.
This type of games benefits from having a quiet launch so people can appreciate its qualities at long-terms, like Ico and SotC.
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>>341594748
>It's not a classic adventure game
Thanks for ensuring I trash all your posts from here on out.
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>>341593454
>https://youtu.be/KftPFPcu_K0?t=2h18m33s
that scared me. I thought he was talking about TLG for a second. There's still hope for Guardian.
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>>341594748
>There's no way you can fake this retardation so really, I'm impressed.
I hope for you there is.
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>fiddly unresponsive controls
>framerate and camera problems
sounds just like Shadow of the Colossus
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>>341594975
Your post is missing some key aspects.

The reason games like Duke Nukem failed isn't only because it had a huge following (which Last Guardian doesn't), it's also because it was just a shit game in general. Shit mechanically, graphically and no where near as enjoyable as some of the past titles.

Last Guardian has more of a cult following than anything, and as the gameplay has already proven, it's definitely living up to what the creators are known for. There's no way this game is going to upset a huge fan like me, because literally everything I've seen is reminiscent of ICO/SotC.
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>>341595225
sotc's controls and camera were good though
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People don't seem to get that team ICO games aren't meant to be played because of the controls, gamepay, or even the story (though SoTC and Ico were good for their time in these categories), it's sorta for the experience.

People meme them as game is art not because they look good but because these sort of experiences and feelings they bring can't be transated in any media and is done well. The feeling one gets when doing an escort mission or killing a giant demon can neither be replicated by movies or paintings and is just done superbly well by the team.

Anyways, Ico was pretty much considered shit when it was released and it was only when the 2deep4u crowd jumped in and overanylyzed everything that it started the Art meme. SotC was cool cause of it's concept not really cause of the art.

I'm still lookong forward to it but I highly doubt it's gonna be something meant to be the flagship game Sony is making it out to be.
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>>341594975
>>341595270
The game shouldn't have many issues being in development for so long though.
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>shit we have nothing
>how about that build of the last guardian we haven't worked on for 5 years?
>ship it
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>>341595298
this.

I know cinematic has negative connotations for most people here but the camera in SotC was really cinematic in the good way.
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>>341595298
trico feathers were way better before
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Remember how game journalists play videogames.

Or have you already forgotten doom?
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>>341595469
it's time to let go of the past.
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NINE YEARS
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How long does it take to port a game from ps3s architecture to the ps4? Could this cause a huge delay?
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>>341587659
Underrated post 2bh
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>>341595918
yes when you only have 2 pepople porting it so it doesn't cost you money

sony doesn't care about this game at all.
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>>341592114
So...it will be good
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>>341589772
Yeah;
>South Park: Stick of Truth
>Doom

But that's all I can think of...
Honestly, as long as the story and presentation are solid, I'm okay with 6/10 gameplay.
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>been hyped for the game ever since 2009
>even if I love it it'll be a /v/ "hated meme" game for all eternity

Really worried about this now. Fuck this goddamn fucking industry.
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>>341597178
I think you can't blame the industry for /v/ being nintendogaf.
you literally would have no problem if you just stopped coming here or just stopped caring about shitposters.
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>>341589838
>Uncharted should be held up as a shining model for all vidya

Fuck I hate mainstream journalism.
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DELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYED.
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>>341587729
literally this.

jesus christ game reviewers.
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>>341587349
DELETE THIS
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>>341589838
>But in a post-Uncharted world, in a world where there is an expectation that climbing and moving about in third-person should feel fluid and responsive
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? CLIMBING AND JUMPING IN UNCHARTED IS AUTOPILOT SHIT. THESE FUCKWITS CAN'T EVEN TELL THE GAME IS PLAYING IT FOR THEM.
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>>341587349
>wesley yin-poole
>yin-poole
The author is a Chinese guy who took the last name of his wife. His opinions are lower than dirt
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>>341600095
>took the last name of his wife
jesus
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Delete this for fuck sake
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>>341587349
They fucking ruined the boxart with that black border shit
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>>341600447
Yeah, it's as if there are two headers. Is that really the office boxart?
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>>341587349
It's a shame that it isn't going to be a good game.

oh well
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>>341600567
I thought this was the official box art.
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Their games are so impecable no amount of /v/ shilling will even begin to touch this game.

>The protagonist clipped through a fucking rock

Wooooooooow cancel the game right guys
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>>341600716
That one looks dumb too
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>>341592894
>>341593732
The controls and the camera in SotC were bad. People complained about Agro's control as well. And the games weren't great on the framerate front. And neither looked like great examples of PS2 graphics power.

Which is exactly what this retard of DF is complaining about. I care more about how Trico behaves, is he an improvement of the AI companion we had in both Ico and SotC? And few people actually discuss about this, because newsflash to speak about it you have to know about videogames and DF only knows how to count pixels.
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>>341600951
They weren't bad at all and if they complained about Agro tey were just retards.

The giants are the most graphically impressive thing on the console. One of the few PS2 games with particles and large high-detail monsters.
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>>341600951
>The controls and the camera in SotC were bad.
Never had a problem. Maybe you are retarded.
>People complained about Agro's control as well.
Definitely retarded. Easily the best horse riding in gaming, hopefully Zelda BotW will top it, and in climbing aswell.
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What is with /v/'s obsession with wanting every fucking game to fail?
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>>341601243
>hopefully Zelda BotW will top it, and in climbing aswell.
It didn't but it's cool they tried.
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>>341601356
how would you know, you haven't played it
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>>341601392
I have though.
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>>341601243
I love the game, go read the reviews of the game from 2005, camera, controls and Agro were complains that were repeated non stop. I am not saying that I bought that garbage but that is what casuals thought of the game.

DF is a fucking pixel counting site, the only thing they are good at is to check framerate and the like. Complaining that it looks like a PS3 game is fucking stupid when everyone knows this game IS a PS3 game ported to PS4.
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>>341601392
I played the demo at E3
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>>341587729
this.
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>>341587349
That cover looks like shit. Who thought that black border was a good idea?
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>>341601310
PCfags
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>>341588332
SOTC was complete. What else didi you want from it? Killstreaks and microtransactions?
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>>341601529
nigger you have no idea what you're talking about on either fronts.

why are you shitposting?
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>>341587349
>implying every singe flaw the game has isn't put there intentionally to enhance the emotional experience and make you feel powerless like the boy

Come on plebs
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>>341602027
SOTC meant to have way more bosses anon.
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>>341602106
this
it's supposed to be a shit game by design
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>>341602140
I'm glad they cut some. Too many would have dragged the game out for too long imo. Though I would have liked 2 more.
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>>341589794
atleast say sonnyger
and so far there hasn't been any other people to be disgusted by the gryphon dog thing
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>>341602036
This is one review from 2005

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/shadow-of-the-colossus-review/1900-6135831/

Read the complains. Are you fucking 12 or something? Complains about the camera, controls and Agro were rampant back then. I hate /v/ is full of retards that only know videogames from how they are seeing from hindsight.
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I wonder if any moment in The Last Guardian will really top that final boss in Shadow of the Colossus, where you're climbing around the arm of Malus.
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>>341589315
Resident Evil 4
Team Fortress 2
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>>341602431
They were retarded.

You haven't played the game.

And DF operated for years and years before counting pixels you fucking loser.

Get a life.
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>>341602709
I doubt it will have a moment as epic in magnitude as that. I think TLG is going for a more ICO approach where you will get a connection with Trico and then have set pieces that will go for magnitude to try to mix Ico and SotC in at least how you get involved with it.
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>>341589772
prey was ok
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>>341602909
I haven't played TLG but complaining about framerate, camera and controls is fucking nothing. Because SotC and Ico received the same exact fucking critisim and a lot of people didn't give a flying fuck about it and still think that SotC is a 10/10 game.

The point is that complaining about the SAME EXACT BULLSHIT and argue that is something anyone that has played a Team ICO game before should care about is fucking stupid. What I care is that how Trico behaves, how is his AI, how is the interaction with it, how is the involment in the game, how does they see the conection with trico works and that if you could see developing an attachment with it.

But no, lets complain about cameras, controls and framerate despite all those problems being present in previous team Ico games!

You are a fucking retard.
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>>341603321
>he changes the subject completely

Bravo dipshit.
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>>341603501
I didn't change the subject you fucking retard. I argue that DF is a fucking stupid site, so stupid that they are repeating bulletpoints complains that SotC and Ico already had even when reviewed on release.

That is a fucking retarded way to review a fucking team Ico game, instead of focusing on stuff people are actually interested about they went completely shallow with their review and just talk about technicalities NOBODY that cares about Team Ico games even care about.

What if the camera suck balls? What if the framerate is garbage? What if the controls take time to adjust to? SotC and Ico had all those problems and people still love those games to death.

Stop defending shit tier reviews otherwise is the only type of reviews you will keep getting.
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> brought up uncharted in his article

Dropped
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>>341587729
>>341597821
>>341597480


Why shouldn't he compare and complain?

If climbing is part of the game, why should we be expected to accept sub standard shit?

The climbing in Uncharted was really well done. The Last Guardian doesn't have to be that good in the climbing mechanic, but if it isn't at the very least decent, then he has every right to complain.

I had high hopes for this game, but the more I see and hear, it's looking like it's going to be a massive disappointment.

Even Fumito Ueda is worried about the game's release this year. Read his interview in July's Edge magazine.
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>40 minutes of play time isn't enough to judge The Last Guardian, of course. Yes, I'm worried about the controls and camera and framerate, but the more I think about my time with the game, the more confident I am of its soul. Still, The Last Guardian faces the perhaps insurmountable task of meeting expectations set by Sony almost a decade ago. Perhaps that's okay. Perhaps it isn't.
>Trico, though. I can still hear his heavy breathing, the rumble of his movement somewhere off camera, the fear in his anguish. There's something haunting about Trico's design, his fur dancing in the dark, his eyes burning bright with strange colours one second, menacing pitch black the next - and that black seems to pour down onto his cheeks, as if he's crying.

Why are people shitposting again? The reviewer says that despite the technical issues it seems that he is convinced that the game could turn out OK mostly because the elements for a good Team Ico game are there.
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>>341604335
>>>/reddit/
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>>341604525

Nice rebuttal, friend.
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>>341604335
>The climbing in Uncharted was really well done.
Kill yourself
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>>341604726

Again, nice rebuttal.

I take back my comments and change my mind.

kek
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>>341602861
Resident Evil 4 in the grand scope of things was awful and killed the series.

Team Fortress 2 turned into one of the biggest microtransaction cancers out there.
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>sonyfags in full damage control mode because this is the only worthwhile exclusive releasing this year
>people bought ps3 for this game almost a decade ago
Top cuck
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>>341605446
>Resident Evil 4 in the grand scope of things was awful and killed the series.

>Awful
No

>killed the series
Debatable
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>>341605996

I'm more looking forward to Horizon tbqhwyfam
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>>341606094
I wouldn't even say debatable, it's the clear point of them moving more towards becoming an action series instead of a survival horror.
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>>341592465
You can't say that and call him a moron in the same sentence you dipshit.
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>>341595298

>>341595469
Actually impossible to determine based on those two clips. First of all fucking video quality.
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>>341589519

>Buying a console before the game you want it for is out
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>>341587349
>no 40 minute video footage

Who cares?
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>>341587659
top kek
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>>341589049
I'm pretty sure most people played ICO after SoTC anon, me included, and I liked ICO too.
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>>341593732

ICO was 240p and SotC regularly dipped into the teens when it came to FPS.
They were shit, when it comes to technology.
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>Expecting anything with a development time rivaling Duke Nukem Forever to be good
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>>341587349
i still have ico and shadow of the colossus but barely played them because they are the most boring pieces of shit i have ever played. this game looks way better.
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>>341589772
Liru is fine faggot.
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>>341589368
5 faps so far, its good.
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isnt this game a lot like A Boy and his Blob? a puzzle game in which you use your pet's abilities to solve the puzzles?
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>>341587349
Bet he thinks Shadow of the Colossus is bad too.

Whenever game reviewers say a game has bad controls thats a good sign to me.
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>>341589772
ff 15 was in pre development for most of that time
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