>Metal Gear is open world sandbox now
>God of War is open world sandbox now
>Zelda is open world sandbox now
>Every new game announced is open world sandbox now
Welcome to hell.
>>341570531
Why would you want linear shit it's 2016
>>341570531
>God of War is open world sandbox now
How is a tLoU clone open world?
>>341570664
Because open world is almost always never done right, so much so that it's better to have just stuck with linear and focus on the gameplay
>>341570664
empty world with nothing to explore with gimmicks sprinkled here and there isn't the answer to linearity
>>341570790
>Area discovered +15xp
>>341570664
Because people prefer good gameplay to 'mah immershun'
>>341570531
>every zelda game has had an overworld
>zelda looks fucking great, even neutral parties say so
>the asspain can be seen for miles, even from space.
please reply with a picture of your ass I want to see the pain in it
>>341571132
Yeah, so does Minecraft and Captain America Civil War
So?
In every other medium "everyone likes it" equals to "commercial trash"
>>341570531
Open World Starfox when?
>>341570531
Sandbox sure, but Zelda had always been open world
>>341571298
Not always
Patricians and Plebs recognize Beethoven and Miles as greatness.
True quality is easy to recognize
>>341570531
At least BotW looks good. Really good.
>>341570531
>Zelda is open world sandbox now
You mean returning to its roots?
>>341571902
Plebes hated Only God Forgives, and think capeshit like Deadpool is the best, so it's nowhere near true
>>341570664
>why would you want story and character development when you can run around aimlessly
>>341572134
>wanting story and character development
>>341572263
>Wanting to replace that with literally doing nothing.
the new God of War isn't an open world, its similar to the latest Tomb Raider where it has open areas but in the end is linear in progression.
It's unfitting for these cinematic experiences to have open worlds, since they might as well just have hallways that throw you into the next cutscene.
it's oddly counter-intuitive to the """"game"""" design they're trying to weave.
open world is the new shooters. its the equivalent to capeshit.
At least the new game by the banjo kazooei guys looks good.
>>341572335
>gameplay is now nothing
>>341572512
>thinking the gameplay in these open world games is something
>>341572512
There is nothing fun about the new Zelda, you are doing all this mundane shit
Maybe if you are like one on of those people who got 500 hours out of GTA3 just driving a tank around, you might like it, it's boring to me
If I want a bunch of tools to mess around with enemies, MGS V is much better for that; laughing at bad ragdolls and looting random mobs for loot is not what I'd expect from a Zelda game
>>341570531
The only example I can think of linear being better than open world is Mirror's Edge. Just because you're a jaded old fartknocker doesn't mean everyone else finds exploration in games tedious.
>>341572512
>Open world walking around is now "gameplay"
If you weren't born in the year 2000 you would realize games used to have actual gameplay and level design.
>>341572640
In the new Zelda it is. It rewards the player for exploration and actually has shit to find like the first game. MGSV fucking sucked because it had neither of these things.
>>341572724
All they showed was messing around at the start of the game. It has a story and dungeons and everything, it just isn't done in the same linear fashion as every 3D Zelda after OoT.
>>341572776
>The only example I can think of linear being better than open world is Mirror's Edge
not even him but kill yourself underage shit.
>>341572724
>>341572834
These fellas are spot on. I don't want to demonize the new Zelda game or criticize the fans who are hyped for it, but I must express worry about a game that did pretty well in a smaller world with defined areas. Making a giant overworld just screams risk, and empty areas that will see no use.
It's like Hyrule Field from OOT. It's big and expansive, but it was freaking empty. The worst part of the map. People say the water temple is bad, but backtracking through that mess of a map is poor game design, and was s bad that they needed to give you songs to skip walking through it over and over.
>>341572983
Give me some examples of a franchise going from linear design to sandbox or vice versa where the linear design ended up being better, enlighten me.
>>341573190
Final Fantasy.
>>341573190
Metal Gear Solid
Tomb Raider
Jackie Chan
>>341573367
FFXV isn't even out yet, anon.
>>341573190
Pretty much all of them except for the ones that were originally sandbox ones.
Recent examples Mgv, witcher 3 and fallout comes to mind.
>>341573461
Alright I'll take MGS.
>>341573553
>fallout
open world really just doesn't do anything for me
i feel like most of the people who like it probably never played a good MMO
every open world game ive ever played just felt like the world should be populated by other people but its always just empty
You fags wouldn't shut up about games needing to be open world for a long time. What do you people even want?
>>341573523
Have you even tried the Platinum demo? That's all the evidence you need.
>press x to dodge
>the next main sonic game will be open world shit
>>341570531
>I prefer Linear stage to stage games.
>Open world games are boring as fuck and usually just involve me getting to the next mission as fast as possible.
>>341573669
All I'm seeing is people complaining that it's too much of a videogame
>Woah he just faded through his arm, that's not realistic
>sandbox
Stop
>>341573669
The Platinum demo was linear and the gameplay being garbage has nothing to do with the sandbox approach anyways.
>>341573667
Says you, I don't care personally for open world games. Xenoblade bored the tar out of me, GTA isn't my flavor, The Witcher is eh, and so on.
I prefer more structured games, kind of like Metroidvanias, but they need to be made well or they risk falling to backtracking fever.
>>341570531
Every Zelda game is open world.
>>341572042
When did it get away from it's roots? They never made a Zelda game that wasn't open world.
>>341573667
we're realizing together that there is still too much sacrificed to make a huge open world
everything else about the game suddenly becomes secondary to the scale and pretty graphics of the world
>>341573879
>>341573625
original wasnt linear but it was more enjoyable before taking the skyrim route.
Open world sandbox games are just a chore. Collectables and stupid boring side missions to fill up the gaps and then a short shitty story that doesnt even take you to 40% of the games locations.
The only company that makes worthwhile open world games is rockstar and they were better during the ps2 era because the scope wasnt as big. I like focus on my games, level design and progression. You can absolutely have exploration as well, witcher 2 was a good example. Huge open areas in a linear fashion following a linear story with some branches.
>We will never get good linear games again
>>341573879
Define open world. Everything in 3D Zelda is done in a linear fashion sans side quests.
>>341573791
>>341573797
Half of it was cutscenes, the other half was just going through a large, boring world with poor platforming and awkward combat.
>>341573761
If you're still playing every new sonic game that comes out you should have hung yourself 10 years ago.
>>341570664
because i dont have time to explore a big open world. they actually scare me because i wont have any time to play any other games. the same reason i prefer movies over television
>>341573553
>Fallout
>Witcher
>Linear
>>341573991
pic not related. Mirror's Edge was mediocre that only gets praise because it fills a niche. The nature of first person platforming and the poor level design lead to problems that the devs were aware of but never actually fixed. Instead they painted your path with "runner's vision" and added a dedicated where-do-I-go? button
>>341574038
(You)
>>341574190
Witcher 1 and 2 are linear open area games.
What i mean with "open world" is games that have no structure and no planning ahead, the typical you can go anywhere and do anything. That absolutely kills progression. Like skyrim.
>>341574343
>The nature of first person platforming and the poor level design lead to problems that the devs were aware of but never actually fixed. Instead they painted your path with "runner's vision" and added a dedicated where-do-I-go? button
That's fucking genius though.
>>341573761
You wouldn't like that? Sonic would benefit from having a wide open area to just run around and go fast in. Make it have a diverse landscape, thrown in zones that need to be found, G.U.N NPCs and it would be GOTYAY contender.
>>341574123
>the same reason i prefer movies over television
I don't agree with the lack of time to explore in games because I love exploration to a fault but I feel you on the television thing. I am not watching multiple seasons of hour long episodes for a story, especially when most tv is just character drama often times forced and underdeveloped with characters seemingly changing in their behavior or belief just to manufacture more drama for filler episodes
>>341574512
Get the fuck out of here, that sounds boring. They need structure and setpieces otherwise itd be boring after an hour.
>>341570531
there's absolutely nothing wrong with open world
>>341570531
Resident Evil won't be but it'll still be shit.
>>341574793
I guess that's why they call this board Random lol!
>>341570531
Except God of War isn't a sandbox open world game?
>>341570531
Good. I hate stories and like exploration.
>>341570531
Welcome to the age of "we want the Skyrim audience."
>>341570664
C U R R E N T Y E A R
>>341570790
